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#51 StrifeDelivery
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@kuu2 said:

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Agreed. GeoW came out last gen, and saw 4 games come out during that time.

Now that is more plausible than what the TC is trying to sell. That being said I don't think we will see another Gears for a couple of years which is a nice break. In the end though it will all come down to the game being good.

If anything, they could have spaced out the release dates a bit more between them all. Also, but unlikely, could have made Judgment a launch game for the xbone.

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#52 Salt_The_Fries
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@aroxx_ab why are you so retarded? of course it's still an Xbox exclusive

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#53 Malta_1980
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Personally I always preferred Geow over Halo Series..

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#54 aroxx_ab
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@Salt_The_Fries said:

@aroxx_ab why are you so retarded? of course it's still an Xbox exclusive

Must been in SW to long time :(

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#56 deactivated-58abb194ab6fb
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Gears of war is not Xbox exclusive anymore right? that give it chance of at least be better :D

It isn't? Wow I must have been drinking a lot of eggnog or something, I must have missed where they announced Gears isn't a Xbox exclusive.

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#57 Ballroompirate
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Considering both have gone down hill, don't think ether will come out on top, even then both series are meh as hell now.

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#58 deactivated-58abb194ab6fb
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Both are great series, I don't know if Gears is ready to pass Halo quite yet but it will be interesting to see if it does. Looking foward to both games but I'm more interested in seeing the next Gears just to see the direction it's going.

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#59  Edited By aroxx_ab
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@BigShotSmoov007 said:
@aroxx_ab said:

Gears of war is not Xbox exclusive anymore right? that give it chance of at least be better :D

It isn't? Wow I must have been drinking a lot of eggnog or something, I must have missed where they announced Gears isn't a Xbox exclusive.

Apparently MS bought the rights of Gears of war i see now so it is xbox exclusive or whatever MS want to do with it. I just remembered from long time ago Epic said they was done with it and wanted work on whatever platform they wanted.

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#60 Seabas989
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Meh don't care for either franchise at this point with their original devs gone.

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#61  Edited By deactivated-58abb194ab6fb
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@aroxx_ab said:

@BigShotSmoov007 said:
@aroxx_ab said:

Gears of war is not Xbox exclusive anymore right? that give it chance of at least be better :D

It isn't? Wow I must have been drinking a lot of eggnog or something, I must have missed where they announced Gears isn't a Xbox exclusive.

Apparently MS bought the rights of Gears of war i see now so it is xbox exclusive or whatever MS want to do with it. I just remembered from long time ago Epic said they was done with it and wanted work on whatever platform they wanted.

You got to keep up with your gaming news, especially if you going to be on a gaming website.

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#62  Edited By YearoftheSnake5
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Need to see and play the next Gears to say one way or the other. I don't think very many people expected the MCC to be the mess that it is based off the trailers and previews. Gears could be the same, it could be worse, or it could be leaps and bounds better. Black Tusk is an untested developer, so we don't even have a developer history to reference.

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#63 MikeHockbourns
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well, both are still better than any 2 Sony exclusives.

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#64 silversix_
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Bungie needs to do waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more than balancing Destiny for it to become a good game.

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#65  Edited By deactivated-57d8401f17c55
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Halo died after odst, 3 was the peak.

Gears has been played out though, and judgement was crap, don't expect much from the new one.

MS needs more games like what sega did for the og xbox, and Banjo threeie. They need to salvage Rare.

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as a microsoft fan i can confidently say gears is utter shit compared to halo. it isn't fit to smell halos farts.

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@silversix_ said:

Bungie needs to do waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more than balancing Destiny for it to become a good game.

Multiplayer wise if they remove hipfire penality, create symmetrical arena maps, equal starts etc. then it will essentislly be halo. campgain wise yes they would need a lot more

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#68 CrownKingArthur
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agreed

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#69  Edited By Lulu_Lulu
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Apples and Oranges.

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#70 deactivated-5cd08b1605da1
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I'm just waiting for those who bash The Order for being a linear corridor shooter to get their panties on fire when Gears of War is shown...

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#71  Edited By lamprey263
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Halo is unique enough for the campaigns to keep selling the franchise, I've not been interested in the online MP since... well, I was never really into it, did a bit of local MP in CE but that's it. Still, I'll get it for the main campaign if they can make it any good.

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I'm just waiting for those who bash The Order for being a linear corridor shooter to get their panties on fire when Gears of War is shown...

problem with the order is the heavy reliance on qte + the movement looks really awkward. gears campaigns are the definition of the word meh, no idea why they are so well received but at least the core gameplay ie. shooting, movement etc. is super fluid. the main attraction to gears is multiplayer and horde.

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Halo is unique enough for the campaigns to keep selling the franchise, I've not been interested in the online MP since... well, I was never really into it, did a bit of local MP in CE but that's it. Still, I'll get it for the main campaign if they can make it any good.

halo campaigns are better than gears but h3 was the last good one, they have been garbage ever since (not played odst so cant comment on that). h4 was a massive disappointment, they claimed to start a new trilgy and yet again i see covenant + the new enemies are horrible to fight and all the world is grey corridors.

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#73 clone01
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@cainetao11 said:

I don't care either way. I enjoy both.

Pretty much.

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@ghostwarrior786 said:

@lamprey263 said:

Halo is unique enough for the campaigns to keep selling the franchise, I've not been interested in the online MP since... well, I was never really into it, did a bit of local MP in CE but that's it. Still, I'll get it for the main campaign if they can make it any good.

halo campaigns are better than gears but h3 was the last good one, they have been garbage ever since (not played odst so cant comment on that). h4 was a massive disappointment, they claimed to start a new trilgy and yet again i see covenant + the new enemies are horrible to fight and all the world is grey corridors.

I thought Halo Reach was pretty good, and ODST is better than most people give it credit for.

I feel things went downhill after Halo 4. Hopefully 343 does a better job with Halo 5.

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@lamprey263 said:

@ghostwarrior786 said:

@lamprey263 said:

Halo is unique enough for the campaigns to keep selling the franchise, I've not been interested in the online MP since... well, I was never really into it, did a bit of local MP in CE but that's it. Still, I'll get it for the main campaign if they can make it any good.

halo campaigns are better than gears but h3 was the last good one, they have been garbage ever since (not played odst so cant comment on that). h4 was a massive disappointment, they claimed to start a new trilgy and yet again i see covenant + the new enemies are horrible to fight and all the world is grey corridors.

I thought Halo Reach was pretty good, and ODST is better than most people give it credit for.

I feel things went downhill after Halo 4. Hopefully 343 does a better job with Halo 5.

yeah im looking forward to playing odst when its released on x1, get it free anyway. reach i thought was terrible, didnt like it one bit. bungie are horrible at writing/story though so its no surprise + i hated the mechanical changes (bloom, armour abilities, fall damage etc.). im not holding much hope for h5 but hopefully it can be good

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#76 clone01
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@ghostwarrior786 said:

@lamprey263 said:

@ghostwarrior786 said:

@lamprey263 said:

Halo is unique enough for the campaigns to keep selling the franchise, I've not been interested in the online MP since... well, I was never really into it, did a bit of local MP in CE but that's it. Still, I'll get it for the main campaign if they can make it any good.

halo campaigns are better than gears but h3 was the last good one, they have been garbage ever since (not played odst so cant comment on that). h4 was a massive disappointment, they claimed to start a new trilgy and yet again i see covenant + the new enemies are horrible to fight and all the world is grey corridors.

I thought Halo Reach was pretty good, and ODST is better than most people give it credit for.

I feel things went downhill after Halo 4. Hopefully 343 does a better job with Halo 5.

yeah im looking forward to playing odst when its released on x1, get it free anyway. reach i thought was terrible, didnt like it one bit. bungie are horrible at writing/story though so its no surprise + i hated the mechanical changes (bloom, armour abilities, fall damage etc.). im not holding much hope for h5 but hopefully it can be good

I thought ODST was great...personally, really liked the feel. Different strokes, eh?

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@clone01:

Yup. Amazing how some opinions differ. ^

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#78  Edited By tormentos
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@Vatusus said:

I'm just waiting for those who bash The Order for being a linear corridor shooter to get their panties on fire when Gears of War is shown...

Yep those same who love cover and shooting all gen last gen all of the sudden see The Order as bad,even that it has show to have more gameplay mechanics than Gears much like it was the case with Uncharted.

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#80  Edited By Minishdriveby
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I just finished Gears of War 3's campaign... What a dumb fucking game. It's like it was written by 10 year olds or made for them...

Outside of the nauseating story though... ehh... it was alright to pretty good, but I never really want to touch the series again.

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#81  Edited By vashkey
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I doubt it. Gears never been as varied, competitive or had the mass market appeal of Halo. The only thing Gears has ever had over Halo was graphics and by Halo 4 that wasn't the case anymore.

Not to mention even after the less well received multiplayer for Reach and 4 and the botched MCC I just generally see more enthusiasm from Halo than Gears. By Judgement everyone I knew was pretty done with Gears. The Gear universe just has less potential than Halo.

Gears has a very defined identity and there's not a lot you can do with it. It's a gorey shooter where you shoot a bunch of monsters. The locust are tired out (so prequels or inbetweenquels wouldn't be too appealing), they had less culture than the covenant, so you can't do as much with them. Having the Cog fight a new faction of monsters or aliens(especially aliens) would feel contrived. Not to mention, humanity was in NO SHAPE to be fighting anymore by the end of Gears 3 so to feasibly continue the series it'd have to be much later.

And fighting humans....? That's not Gear at all.

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#82  Edited By Ross_the_Boss6
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I'm waiting for Halo 5 to make up my mind about 343.

I got tired of Gears of War after just two games. By the time GeoW3 came around, I could only be bothered to finish the campaign. The other one after that didn't even make it on my radar. (Judgement or something like that).

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#83  Edited By ghostwarrior786
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I just finished Gears of War 3's campaign... What a dumb fucking game. It's like it was written by 10 year olds or made for them...

Outside of the nauseating story though... ehh... it was alright to pretty good, but I never really want to touch the series again.

Gears 3 campaign is the most fun in the franchise, isnt saying much really. Try the multiplayer thats were the game shines

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I doubt it. Gears never been as varied, competitive or had the mass market appeal of Halo. The only thing Gears has ever had over Halo was graphics and by Halo 4 that wasn't the case anymore.

Not to mention even after the less well received multiplayer for Reach and 4 and the botched MCC I just generally see more enthusiasm from Halo than Gears. By Judgement everyone I knew was pretty done with Gears. The Gear universe just has less potential than Halo.

Gears has a very defined identity and there's not a lot you can do with it. It's a gorey shooter where you shoot a bunch of monsters. The locust are tired out (so prequels or inbetweenquels wouldn't be too appealing), they had less culture than the covenant, so you can't do as much with them. Having the Cog fight a new faction of monsters or aliens(especially aliens) would feel contrived. Not to mention, humanity was in NO SHAPE to be fighting anymore by the end of Gears 3 so to feasibly continue the series it'd have to be much later.

And fighting humans....? That's not Gear at all.

In terms of lore yes halo is miles better and I agree the locust arc is finished so I have no idea wtf they are going to go from here. Im guessing its going to be set between gears 1-2 storyline.

Judgement took everything good about gears and pissed all over it which is why the community hated it. Ive been playing gears since it launched but never bothered even playing judgment and modt people I know didnt either, its a spinoff so its ok if it doesnt sell that well. A main entry will sell millions like gears 3

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#84  Edited By starwolf474
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Gears of War has always been better than Halo.

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#85  Edited By vashkey
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@jg4xchamp said:

Anyway Gears and Halo are old, stale, and slow. Gears of War was fine when it was fresh and basically kill switch, but good.

Once Uncharted 2 became a thing, Vanquish became a thing, and now we got things like The Last of Us and Tomb Raider, Gears is kind of meh in comparison. As a multiplayer game it's fun, really fun, but all that special? nah, not even close. Wall bouncing is neat and all, but the game is a glorified shotgun fest with not that much of a skill ceiling, and a whole lot of i got luckier with my shotgun than that other guy did. It's far away from being a Counterstrike or something, but that's the difference between a proper FPS multiplayer vs tps.

And Halo its either it stays the same, and continues to be outclassed by better PC shooters, or it changes some things and that point it stops being Halo, but also barely changes because they are trying to keep too much Halo into it.

Fact is Microsoft needs fresher ips. Halo and Gears have become stagnant. The Mario counter argument doesn't work, Mario's games are A: the class of their genre and B: actually fucking change from time to time. C: don't suck.

... Vanquish, Uncharted, The Last of Us and Tomb Raider are incredibly different from Gears aren't even as good as Gears in terms of what people like about Gears.... Ya know, the shooting. The Last of Us, Uncharted and Tomb Raider are more concerned about trying to tell some half baked stories(... Well, the Last of Us was actually good, but that's aside the point) and wrestling control from you so they can show off big set pieces(dear lord, the first like hour of Tomb Raider is Lara falling) rather than having interesting combat scenarios.

I can understand if you don't like the 80s stupid action movie aesthetive but NONE of those games do what Gears did but better, they just did similar things but differently.

Although Vanquish WAS actually a good third person shooter unlike Tomb Raider and Naughty Dog's cinematic games. But it was hypercharged and acted more like Platinums other Action games. The pacing was so different that it's still a totally different experience from Gears.

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@ghostwarrior786 said:

@Minishdriveby said:

I just finished Gears of War 3's campaign... What a dumb fucking game. It's like it was written by 10 year olds or made for them...

Outside of the nauseating story though... ehh... it was alright to pretty good, but I never really want to touch the series again.

Gears 3 campaign is the most fun in the franchise, isnt saying much really. Try the multiplayer thats were the game shines

I have no way to try the multiplayer. I don't have XBL.

Gears 2 campaign was better.

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#87  Edited By vashkey
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@Minishdriveby said:

@ghostwarrior786 said:

@Minishdriveby said:

I just finished Gears of War 3's campaign... What a dumb fucking game. It's like it was written by 10 year olds or made for them...

Outside of the nauseating story though... ehh... it was alright to pretty good, but I never really want to touch the series again.

Gears 3 campaign is the most fun in the franchise, isnt saying much really. Try the multiplayer thats were the game shines

I have no way to try the multiplayer. I don't have XBL.

Gears 2 campaign was better.

I thought 1 and 3 were better. Too much of Gears 2 is spent underground and there were to many on rail sequences. And Dom's story was a jarring shift in the story that not everyone liked

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#88  Edited By Minishdriveby
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@vashkey said:

@Minishdriveby said:

@ghostwarrior786 said:

@Minishdriveby said:

I just finished Gears of War 3's campaign... What a dumb fucking game. It's like it was written by 10 year olds or made for them...

Outside of the nauseating story though... ehh... it was alright to pretty good, but I never really want to touch the series again.

Gears 3 campaign is the most fun in the franchise, isnt saying much really. Try the multiplayer thats were the game shines

I have no way to try the multiplayer. I don't have XBL.

Gears 2 campaign was better.

I thought 1 and 3 were better. Too much of Gears 2 is spent underground and there were to many on rail sequences. And Dom's story was a jarring shift in the story that not everyone liked

Gears 1 was probably the worst of the three. I can't even remember what happened except for a train exploding at the end.

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#89 vashkey
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@Minishdriveby said:

@vashkey said:

@Minishdriveby said:

@ghostwarrior786 said:

@Minishdriveby said:

I just finished Gears of War 3's campaign... What a dumb fucking game. It's like it was written by 10 year olds or made for them...

Outside of the nauseating story though... ehh... it was alright to pretty good, but I never really want to touch the series again.

Gears 3 campaign is the most fun in the franchise, isnt saying much really. Try the multiplayer thats were the game shines

I have no way to try the multiplayer. I don't have XBL.

Gears 2 campaign was better.

I thought 1 and 3 were better. Too much of Gears 2 is spent underground and there were to many on rail sequences. And Dom's story was a jarring shift in the story that not everyone liked

Gears 1 was probably the worst of the three. I can't even remember what happened except for a train exploding at the end.

Well, I really enjoyed it and remember almost every single enemy encounter and scenario despite not having played it in like two years

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@Desmonic said:

I don't think Halo is quite ready to leave it's crown... maybe if Halo 5 isn't all that hot, maybe it can happen. However the next Gears would need to be great. Judgment didn't have the sales nor the critical reception of previous games neither.

judgment was spin off title which sell less than mainline just like odst. i didnt even bother buying it when i heard dbno was removed but the next gears has rod furgesson in charge who also was the producer for the trilogy so its in good hands now.

@JangoWuzHere said:

No FPS plays like Halo.

Almost every modern TPS plays like a Gears of War clone.

yh bullshit, which other tps has wall bouncing?

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#91  Edited By delta3074
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@ghostwarrior786 said:

i guarantee this right now, gears will overtake halo as ms most relevant/best selling franchise. halo just isnt that unique anymore, its good but nothing exceptional. if bungie sort their shit out and balance destiny then it will essential be like halo. the weapons/movement all feel similar even the intro scene to multiplayer is the same.

gears on the other hand is VASTLY different from all other tps multiplayer experiences, NOTHING comes close to it. it sold around 8m per game last gen so now that is has captured mindshare and established itself i think it will sell around 10-12m. halo will decline because of the massive competition in fps market so it will likely sell around 8m.

agree or disagree?

Disagree, gears is a third party franchise not owned by MS and with the PS4 stonking ahead in sales i can see EPIC going multiplat, especially now Cliffy B has gone.

Halo is not like every other FPS on the market, to say so is rediculous, Halo is still pretty much a twitch shooter with no sighting down the weapons and greater Scale and more features and online gameplay modes than 90% of FPS on the Market.

Halo still holds an online following all the way back to Halo 2, it's a cult classic in every sense of the word and is still more respected in the Xbox community than gears.

Halo sales are not declining that dramatically, even the Broken MCC sold more than a million units in it's first week.

You could be right, we won't know yet, i just personally cannot see it happening because Cliffy B was the one responsible for gears staying on the xbox platform and hes gone.

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#93 delta3074
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@kuu2 said:

@delta3074: MSoft owns the Gears IP.

oh shit, you are right, i didn't realize they bought out the IP in january last year, **** me i missed that one completely.

http://news.xbox.com/2014/01/games-microsoft-studios-gears-of-war

No more 'bu-bu- thrid party from cows,lol

RESULT.

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#94 delta3074
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@ReadingRainbow4 said:

Halo killed Halo. They didn't need to wait for Killzone.

Killzone never came close to killing Halo and it never will,lol