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#1 imprezawrx500
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so explain how consoles are so great because they don't have to be upgraded when the gf 8600gt can run bioshock maxed out @ 1280 x 800? not to mention cod4 600p on console 8600gt maxed @1280 x 800

so cows lems whats your excluse now? and btw that card is under $100 and is also in laptops so why are ps3/x360 so huge when you can get more grpahical performance in 15" laptops which are no bigger than the wii if you look at them without the monitor

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#2 RevenMan
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so explain how consoles are so great because they don't have to be upgraded when the gf 8600gt can run bioshock maxed out @ 1280 x 800? not to mention cod4 600p on console 8600gt maxed @1280 x 800

so cows lems whats your excluse now? and btw that card is under $100 and is also in laptops so why are ps3/x360 so huge when you can get more grpahical performance in 15" laptops which are no bigger than the wii if you look at them without the monitor

imprezawrx500

You still don't understand do you? I'l try to be as simple as I can so you can undestand it. Can i play Ninja Gaiden 2 on the pc? Can I play mass effect on the pc? Can I play Fable 2 on the pc? Can I play forza 2 on the pc? Can I play Street Fighter 4 on the pc? The point is that while the pc has alot of great games so do the console and some genres are better suited for depending on wich platform they are.

Well that preatty much sums up my point. But don't wory like always pc games will look better than console games so you can be happy and look at the preatty graphics if you have the right amount of cash.

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#4 Dante2710
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believe it or not...they are alot of people who prefer consoles....but i guess some of u hermits cant digest that or accept it
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#5 imprezawrx500
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I'm not going to argue with that, its true console have some great games, but their hardware is outdated the day they come out and it doesn't take much in a pc to match them for their whole lifetime
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#6 Corvin
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Well, you convinced me. I'm going to go out and get a 8600gt right away, plug it in to my TV and fire up some Halo 3.
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Take this from a PC gamer,

Console hardware has way more potential and capability than an 8600gt. That card will be obsolete next year and wouldn't even run 2009 PS3/360 games. So no.

Could you forumites please stop trying to convince console sheep to get a PC? I don't need more idiots in my community.

Blue-Sky

so how come a geforce 3 can run every xbox game then? your the idiot who thinks it wont run 2009 ps3 games, basicly the only think you need more of in a pc is ram the gpu is hardly doing anything when its not runing a game

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#8 Corvin
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Could you forumites please stop trying to convince console sheep to get a PC? I don't need more idiots in my community.

Blue-Sky

And people wonder why PC fans get such a bad rap on System Wars. :roll:

I'm embarassed to think I ever used to act like that about PC gaming, back when I actually cared about it.

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Take this from a PC gamer,

Console hardware has way more potential and capability than an 8600gt. That card will be obsolete next year and wouldn't even run 2009 PS3/360 games. So no.

Could you forumites please stop trying to convince console sheep to get a PC? I don't need more idiots in my community.

Blue-Sky
Wow sometimes hermits are worse then cows.
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the PS3 and 360 are going to produce things the 8600GT cant, i promise you...

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based on what ?
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#12 ff7isnumbaone
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8600gt is pretty good for some1 who want to own a ps3 or already has one. You get a few 360 exclusives without having your hardware fail on you. Got mine for $88.
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#13 kingfire11
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[QUOTE="R-Dot-Yung"]

the PS3 and 360 are going to produce things the 8600GT cant, i promise you...

anshul89

based on what ?

Killzone 2, Gears of War 2 (hopefully), GT5.

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#14 unreal48
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consoles have a more comfortable feel to them in some games and aspects
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the PS3 and 360 are going to produce things the 8600GT cant, i promise you...

and i own a 8800GT

R-Dot-Yung

so the 360s 2 best lookin games, bioshock and geow can both be maxed on on a 8600gt to look better so explain how they are sudely start to look better when a year after geow and it is still the grpahics king? also the 8600gt will get better with new drivers

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#16 imprezawrx500
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[QUOTE="anshul89"][QUOTE="R-Dot-Yung"]

the PS3 and 360 are going to produce things the 8600GT cant, i promise you...

kingfire11

based on what ?

Killzone 2, Gears of War 2 (hopefully), GT5.

so killzone 2 looks better and has better physics than crysis on medium? we'll see 8600gt is good for medium in crysis

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#17 ff7isnumbaone
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[QUOTE="R-Dot-Yung"]

the PS3 and 360 are going to produce things the 8600GT cant, i promise you...

and i own a 8800GT

imprezawrx500

so the 360s 2 best lookin games, bioshock and geow can both be maxed on on a 8600gt to look better so explain how they are sudely start to look better when a year after geow and it is still the grpahics king? also the 8600gt will get better with new drivers

GEARS runs so much better on pc. k/m was awsome and 8600 gt does make the game look better.

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#18 Cedmln
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As you can see once again, Hermits, consoles are the favored choice.
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#19 PS3_3DO
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That card couldn't run Crysis. :lol:

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#20 aliblabla2007
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That card couldn't run Crysis. :lol:

PS3_3DO

It can at medium settings. Can your underpowered console do that?

No.

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#21 PS3_3DO
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[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

That card couldn't run Crysis. :lol:

aliblabla2007

It can at medium settings. Can your underpowered console do that?

No.

I bet the 360 could run it at medium easy. The level would have to be cut in half but it could run it.

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#22 mo0ksi
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That card couldn't run Crysis. :lol:

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And that's why I'm able to play it on high settings with that card.
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#23 anshul89
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[QUOTE="anshul89"][QUOTE="R-Dot-Yung"]

the PS3 and 360 are going to produce things the 8600GT cant, i promise you...

kingfire11

based on what ?

Killzone 2, Gears of War 2 (hopefully), GT5.

And you've PLAYED these games ?
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#24 imprezawrx500
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[QUOTE="aliblabla2007"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

That card couldn't run Crysis. :lol:

PS3_3DO

It can at medium settings. Can your underpowered console do that?

No.

I bet the 360 could run it at medium easy. The level would have to be cut in half but it could run it.

maybe if you had 1-2gb ram 512mb total ram doesn't cut it. the level cut in half is not running it. the 8600gt can run the level they way its meant to be. 2gb ram + 256mb vram > x360 even with vista

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#25 imprezawrx500
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That card couldn't run Crysis. :lol:

PS3_3DO

so then how come I have been playing crysis on it @ 1280x800 with med settings?

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#26 Greyhound222
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[QUOTE="aliblabla2007"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

That card couldn't run Crysis. :lol:

PS3_3DO

It can at medium settings. Can your underpowered console do that?

No.

I bet the 360 could run it at medium easy. The level would have to be cut in half but it could run it.

Exactly.It would have to have the level cut in half.So no,it couldn't run it.
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#27 aliblabla2007
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[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"][QUOTE="aliblabla2007"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

That card couldn't run Crysis. :lol:

imprezawrx500

It can at medium settings. Can your underpowered console do that?

No.

I bet the 360 could run it at medium easy. The level would have to be cut in half but it could run it.

maybe if you had 1-2gb ram 512mb total ram doesn't cut it

Yeah, that's the reason.

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#28 Darth_DuMas
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[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

Take this from a PC gamer,

Console hardware has way more potential and capability than an 8600gt. That card will be obsolete next year and wouldn't even run 2009 PS3/360 games. So no.

Could you forumites please stop trying to convince console sheep to get a PC? I don't need more idiots in my community.

imprezawrx500

so how come a geforce 3 can run every xbox game then? your the idiot who thinks it wont run 2009 ps3 games, basicly the only think you need more of in a pc is ram the gpu is hardly doing anything when its not runing a game

That would make sense for the first Xbox it was basically a cut down PC with a custom GeForce 3 was it not? Maybe I don't get what your saying there.

But isn't the appeal of console gaming capability balanced with ease of use?

EDIT: I think I know what you mean about the Geforce 3 thing now, but I think its some how more complex this gen, but your probably right.

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#29 lordlors
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[QUOTE="imprezawrx500"]

so explain how consoles are so great because they don't have to be upgraded when the gf 8600gt can run bioshock maxed out @ 1280 x 800? not to mention cod4 600p on console 8600gt maxed @1280 x 800

so cows lems whats your excluse now? and btw that card is under $100 and is also in laptops so why are ps3/x360 so huge when you can get more grpahical performance in 15" laptops which are no bigger than the wii if you look at them without the monitor

RevenMan

You still don't understand do you? I'l try to be as simple as I can so you can undestand it. Can i play Ninja Gaiden 2 on the pc? Can I play mass effect on the pc? Can I play Fable 2 on the pc? Can I play forza 2 on the pc? Can I play Street Fighter 4 on the pc? The point is that while the pc has alot of great games so do the console and some genres are better suited for depending on wich platform they are.

Well that preatty much sums up my point. But don't wory like always pc games will look better than console games so you can be happy and look at the preatty graphics if you have the right amount of cash.

Typical hypocrite. Stupid sony and microsoft fanboys always bash the nintendo wii for its graphics and hardware power when in fact their consoles are INFERIOR to high end PCs. Now when we PC gamers say the ps3/xbox360 are inferior to high end PCs, they will use the games just like when nintendo fans will defend their console of choice. Total hypocrisy.

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#30 trasherhead
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[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

That card couldn't run Crysis. :lol:

mo0ksi

And that's why I'm able to play it on high settings with that card.

YFR! I've got a 8800GTS and can't run it all on gigh without going under 20fps.

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#31 trasherhead
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In the end you can achive alot more with consoles then you can with pc.

Take the PS2. Back when it launched you had games like Timesplitters, Tekken Tag and Quake 3. Then now you have games like GOW2, FF12, MGS3 etc. Which are huge jumps in graphics compared to what the launch games looked like.

Then take a PC from 2000 with a Geforce 3 or a radeon 8000 series, sure the games it ran back then looked great but 6-7 years later it couldn't have ran anything of the new games. And the last "new" games it could have runed at a decent fps and with high setting would still not have been as big of a leap as with the PS2 games.

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#32 Chipp
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[QUOTE="imprezawrx500"]

so explain how consoles are so great because they don't have to be upgraded when the gf 8600gt can run bioshock maxed out @ 1280 x 800? not to mention cod4 600p on console 8600gt maxed @1280 x 800

so cows lems whats your excluse now? and btw that card is under $100 and is also in laptops so why are ps3/x360 so huge when you can get more grpahical performance in 15" laptops which are no bigger than the wii if you look at them without the monitor

RevenMan

You still don't understand do you? I'l try to be as simple as I can so you can undestand it. Can i play Ninja Gaiden 2 on the pc? Can I play mass effect on the pc? Can I play Fable 2 on the pc? Can I play forza 2 on the pc? Can I play Street Fighter 4 on the pc? The point is that while the pc has alot of great games so do the console and some genres are better suited for depending on wich platform they are.

Well that preatty much sums up my point. But don't wory like always pc games will look better than console games so you can be happy and look at the preatty graphics if you have the right amount of cash.

I'm pretty sure Mass Effect, Street fighter 4 and maybe Fable 2 will come to PC. Did you know? The pictures of Street Fighter 4 was running off a PC build. Anyhow, to the guy saying a Geforce 8600gt>consoles. Its greater than Wii but thats about it. The card blows and don't listen to the guys saying they can run Crysis at high and medium detail with this card. Thing is YOU CAN turn the graphics up that high but what they don't tell you is the FPS they are getting which is probably like 10fps or something crappy. If they can't tell the difference between 10fps and 30fps+ then thats their buisness but don't come here telling everyone else that **** card plays the game fine because it doesn't.

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#33 mo0ksi
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[QUOTE="mo0ksi"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

That card couldn't run Crysis. :lol:

trasherhead

And that's why I'm able to play it on high settings with that card.

YFR! I've got a 8800GTS and can't run it all on gigh without going under 20fps.

Then there MUST be something wrong with your PC. If you can't run it on all very high settings then I'd understand, but if you can't run it on high then there's a problem. I know people with the same card as yours who got it playing good on high to very high settings.
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#34 Chipp
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[QUOTE="trasherhead"][QUOTE="mo0ksi"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

That card couldn't run Crysis. :lol:

mo0ksi

And that's why I'm able to play it on high settings with that card.

YFR! I've got a 8800GTS and can't run it all on gigh without going under 20fps.

Then there MUST be something wrong with your PC. If you can't run it on all very high settings then I'd understand, but if you can't run it on high then there's a problem. I know people with the same card as yours who got it playing good on high to very high settings.

Taken from legit reviews.

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#35 mo0ksi
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Works fine for me as long as it's on 1024x768 or lower.
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#36 blasto65_basic
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The thing PC people never get is a console can run games with good graphics with less then a PC can because a PC has allot going on in the back-round. Consoles are built for one thing and one thing only games. Devs can optimize a game better on a console better because there is only one configuration. Xbox360, PS3, Wii a PC can have so-many configuration due to different Proc Mem Video cards sound cards and more so it is harder for a Dev to optimize a game for the PC.
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The thing PC people never get is a console can run games with good graphics with less then a PC can because a PC has allot going on in the back-round. Consoles are built for one thing and one thing only games. Devs can optimize a game better on a console better because there is only one configuration. Xbox360, PS3, Wii a PC can have so-many configuration due to different Proc Mem Video cards sound cards and more so it is harder for a Dev to optimize a game for the PC.blasto65_basic
then why do Bioshock and COD4 run better on the PC ?
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#38 blasto65_basic
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[QUOTE="blasto65_basic"]The thing PC people never get is a console can run games with good graphics with less then a PC can because a PC has allot going on in the back-round. Consoles are built for one thing and one thing only games. Devs can optimize a game better on a console better because there is only one configuration. Xbox360, PS3, Wii a PC can have so-many configuration due to different Proc Mem Video cards sound cards and more so it is harder for a Dev to optimize a game for the PC.anshul89
then why do Bioshock and COD4 run better on the PC ?

It does not on all PC's that is the point. Any one that has an Xbox360, PS3 or a Wii can buy the game and have the same visuals as the next person. But that is not true on a PC. Every person will have different graphics and frame rates and not the same as the next PC owner.

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#39 anshul89
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[QUOTE="anshul89"][QUOTE="blasto65_basic"]The thing PC people never get is a console can run games with good graphics with less then a PC can because a PC has allot going on in the back-round. Consoles are built for one thing and one thing only games. Devs can optimize a game better on a console better because there is only one configuration. Xbox360, PS3, Wii a PC can have so-many configuration due to different Proc Mem Video cards sound cards and more so it is harder for a Dev to optimize a game for the PC.blasto65_basic

then why do Bioshock and COD4 run better on the PC ?

It does not on all PC's that is the point. Any one that has an Xbox360, PS3 or a Wii can buy the game and have the same visuals as the next person. But that is not true on a PC. Every person will have different graphics and frame rates and not the same as the next PC owner.

oops i meant 8600gt instead of PC
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#40 Heil68
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ok, so now what?
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#41 -AK47-
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I think the 360 and PS3 can produce graphics better than what a 8600gt can do.
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#42 OmegaOrtega
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I love the 8600GT.

The 8600GT and 8800GT makes this budget PC gamer smile big time :D

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#43 OmegaOrtega
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I think the 360 and PS3 can produce graphics better than what a 8600gt can do.-AK47-

Actually they can not,.I've compared Oblivion running at 1280x800 on my friends PC (which has an OC'd 8600GT) to the PS3 version of Oblivion. It looked slightly better onhis PC, but due to him having 2GBs of RAM backed by a decent processor, spots where the PS3 version lagged, did not lag as much on his computer.

Though, the PS3 and 360 are not too far behind the 8600GT.

The 8800GT on the other hand, kills the consoles. It also can be bought for a mere 200 bucks, and lesser dependent on where you shop.

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#44 Chipp
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The thing PC people never get is a console can run games with good graphics with less then a PC can because a PC has allot going on in the back-round. Consoles are built for one thing and one thing only games. Devs can optimize a game better on a console better because there is only one configuration. Xbox360, PS3, Wii a PC can have so-many configuration due to different Proc Mem Video cards sound cards and more so it is harder for a Dev to optimize a game for the PC.blasto65_basic

Whats wrong with what you said is that every PC is unique but what you state seems like its only applying to one PC which is less than entry level. Of course if a PC doesn't have the right requirements then the game or OS won't run effectively. However, with a PC that is built for gaming this doesn't apply. I don't think anyone here is comparing a non gaming PC to a 360/PS3 but a gaming PC to a 360/PC. Which is why what you said doesn't apply at all. Also have you ever heard of dual and quad core? I don't think any pc with them has trouble multi tasking.

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#45 skrat_01
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This thread should be technical based.

Not ANOTHER PC v Console games argument.

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#46 Indestructible2
Member since 2007 • 5935 Posts

8600GT can run Crysis MUCH better than current consoles EVER could (They need at least another GB of RAM),but my HD 2600XT can also run Crysis Medium @ 1280x800 :o :D

Enuff said.

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#47 Deathbourn
Member since 2004 • 78 Posts

Many people aren't understanding the fact that in new games the 8600GT is better than the 7900GTX. Keep in mind that the PS3 has a 7800GTX with 128bit memory bandwidth. If you want to see evidence go to the PC section an see the C0D4 and UT3 performance guides. This is the way hardware always is in the tech world. As games become more shader intensive the GPU's in the PS3 and Xbox360 will start to show their age. BTW they are already showing it.

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#48 turgore
Member since 2006 • 7859 Posts
It costs just as much as the cheap 360.
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#49 NEOSPARKING
Member since 2007 • 1264 Posts
Do consoles have games like the witcher hallifeseries starcraft stalker wic coh supcom crysis aoe caesar 3 battlefielde 1942-2142 mafia maxpayne, Gothic series,Farcry etc... No. Not to mention mmos like PoTBC , AoC , WoW , EverquestIIII. And eventually wait it out for superior versions of console games like GoW, FableTLC,
Will so called exclusives save maybe mgs4 get pc support eventually like Assasin Creed and Masseffect and Haze? Yes.
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#50 GameOverKayo
Member since 2007 • 471 Posts
[QUOTE="kingfire11"][QUOTE="anshul89"][QUOTE="R-Dot-Yung"]

the PS3 and 360 are going to produce things the 8600GT cant, i promise you...

anshul89

based on what ?

Killzone 2, Gears of War 2 (hopefully), GT5.

And you've PLAYED these games ?

"just wait" :D