geforce 8600gt out does consoles

[QUOTE="Polaris_choice"][QUOTE="imprezawrx500"][QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

Take this from a PC gamer,

Console hardware has way more potential and capability than an 8600gt. That card will be obsolete next year and wouldn't even run 2009 PS3/360 games. So no.

Could you forumites please stop trying to convince console sheep to get a PC? I don't need more idiots in my community.

imprezawrx500

so how come a geforce 3 can run every xbox game then? your the idiot who thinks it wont run 2009 ps3 games, basicly the only think you need more of in a pc is ram the gpu is hardly doing anything when its not runing a game

Um no a Gforce 3 could not run every xbox game as good as the xbox. Hell it couldnt even run Metal Gear solid 2 worth a crap and that was a PS2 game . If you are going to make an argument you need to have some idea of what you are talking about instead of spraying random crap out of your mouth.

like what late xbox game runs above 640 x480? geforce 3 has no problems running med settings in late xbox games at low resolutions

Sorry but your wrong SC: Chaos Theory is one example I can think of immediatley because ive seen it myself.

[QUOTE="Polaris_choice"]

[QUOTE="Puckhog04"]Consoles were outdated even before they launched or very soon after. And, in the case of the Wii, wayyy before it launched. PC's will always be ahead. imprezawrx500

Sorry but your wrong. There are games the 360 runs now the high end pc's that came out at the same time as the 360 struggle with. Example Bioshock does not look as good ona 7800gtx as it does on the 360. (seen it myself) it depends on the games and pc requires constant upgrades while a console last you 4 to 5 years.

since when is the 7800gts weaker than the 7800gt? as my 7800gt can max out bioshcok in dx9 (with new driver)

Im not sure where your 7800gtx vs gt comparison comes in if you are saying a 360 gpu is equilvent to a 7800gt then thats laugable.

[QUOTE="ChevelleFan"]Look at reviews for the 8600GT on newegg some people get poor framerates with Crysis on high settings even with two cards in SLI. The 8600GT is not godly card that can max out most games. If it was why would anyone buy a 8800GTS or even a GTX?ff7isnumbaone

yea but they 8800 gt is expensive if you plan to own a console. and F crysis, nothing seems to run it properly.

I know that is my point. The 8600GT works for the budget PC gamer who has dual or quad core processor with 2 gigs of ram, but for the average person the argument is null and void. There is no reason not to buy a console if you know your PC cannot handle new games.

LMAO the 8600 is such a crappy GPU. My 7600GT is almost as good as it. The PS3/360 will be able to output some better graphics. Can your 8600 produce graphics as good as Uncharted? At 1280x720, can you produce amazing AA, HDR lighting, motion blur, etc. on your 8600?

bioshock maxed out in dx10, cod4 maxed, crysis medium with max physics and sound. lets see ps3 run cod4 in "true hd" it can't even run it in 720p like the 8600gt has no problem in doing

AIH_PSP

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="ChevelleFan"]Your a lost cause Babi_Vegeta. You can't get past your PC fanboyism so you are quick to attack anyone who disagrees with you. ChevelleFan

What are you even talking about? Just because I disagree i'm a fanboy? Nice logic.

I'm asking for proof, but nobody is giving me anything.

What proof do you need? This topic makes no sense at all. Comparing a entry level DX10 card to a console is not a very logical comparison. You want proof? Look at the benchmarks. What it reallyall comes down to in this topic is PC vs console. In my posts you are quick to comment pointing out the flaws in consoles. Whenever someone points out the cons of the PC you are quick to dismiss it. Is this not fanboyish?

I know it's not logical at all... even more because the 2600XT is better for lower price and it's not even considered a gaming card but it performs quite well if you still wanna play.

You said that console win, I show the you the contrairy... I don't have the same opinion as you, so yes I can disagree like I please too... without being called a fanboy right?

[QUOTE="Puckhog04"]I've had my gaming PC for 3.5 years and have yet to need an upgrade. Granted, if i played Crysis i would need to butI have no desire to. No, PCs don't need to be upgraded that often (or at least as often as people like to think).

As for the rest, I'm a huge Console advocate. In fact, in 90% of the games, i prefer a Console. And, yes, Console hardware (especially today) does last longer than it used to. But Consoles are outdated fairly quickly. It differs from generation to generation as to how quickly. This generation their holding in longer because, well, they're better consoles (at least the PS3/360 are). As for BF Bad Company...all i know of the game is that it has destructible environments and updated physics and such. Do you know if it is as open as Crysis? Because i haven't heard. Consoles are outdated in terms of hardware though and usually within 1 year of the consoles release (this is about how quick it took with the original Xbox). That's fact.

Bgrngod

no that was the 6800/x800 that came out in early 2004

3.5 years since your last upgrade? So you couldn't be using anything newer then the 5 series since they came out in late 2004ish.

How is Neverwinter Nights 2 treating you at 2 fps on your 5 series card? Is that fun to play?

[QUOTE="ff7isnumbaone"]

[QUOTE="ChevelleFan"]Look at reviews for the 8600GT on newegg some people get poor framerates with Crysis on high settings even with two cards in SLI. The 8600GT is not godly card that can max out most games. If it was why would anyone buy a 8800GTS or even a GTX?ChevelleFan

yea but they 8800 gt is expensive if you plan to own a console. and F crysis, nothing seems to run it properly.

I know that is my point. The 8600GT works for the budget PC gamer who has dual or quad core processor with 2 gigs of ram, but for the average person the argument is null and void. There is no reason not to buy a console if you know your PC cannot handle new games.

yea but the 8800 gt is expensive if you plan to own a console. and F crysis, nothing seems to run it properly when playing crysis.

[QUOTE="R-Dot-Yung"]

the PS3 and 360 are going to produce things the 8600GT cant, i promise you...

and i own a 8800GT

imprezawrx500

so the 360s 2 best lookin games, bioshock and geow can both be maxed on on a 8600gt to look better so explain how they are sudely start to look better when a year after geow and it is still the grpahics king? also the 8600gt will get better with new drivers

I'm not reading 4 pages of this stuff, so someone else probably pointed this out already ;

The 8600 GT will get outdated before console hardware because PC devs will always take advantage of new hardware, where console developers learn to optimize the hardware thats already there, and that every user for that platform owns, instead of the massive amount of different system configs PC gamers have. It's that simple.

And don't get mislead. I'm a PC gamer first, and a console gamer second. But that is the reality of it.

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[QUOTE="ChevelleFan"][QUOTE="ff7isnumbaone"]

[QUOTE="ChevelleFan"]Look at reviews for the 8600GT on newegg some people get poor framerates with Crysis on high settings even with two cards in SLI. The 8600GT is not godly card that can max out most games. If it was why would anyone buy a 8800GTS or even a GTX?ff7isnumbaone

yea but they 8800 gt is expensive if you plan to own a console. and F crysis, nothing seems to run it properly.

I know that is my point. The 8600GT works for the budget PC gamer who has dual or quad core processor with 2 gigs of ram, but for the average person the argument is null and void. There is no reason not to buy a console if you know your PC cannot handle new games.

yea but the 8800 gt is expensive if you plan to own a console. and F crysis, nothing seems to run it properly when playing crysis.

8800GT 256MB is 200$... it's one hell of a nice deal or Hd3850 for 169.99$ is a freacking nice deal.

[QUOTE="imprezawrx500"][QUOTE="Ramadear"][QUOTE="RevenMan"][QUOTE="imprezawrx500"]

so explain how consoles are so great because they don't have to be upgraded when the gf 8600gt can run bioshock maxed out @ 1280 x 800? not to mention cod4 600p on console 8600gt maxed @1280 x 800

so cows lems whats your excluse now? and btw that card is under $100 and is also in laptops so why are ps3/x360 so huge when you can get more grpahical performance in 15" laptops which are no bigger than the wii if you look at them without the monitor

Ramadear

You still don't understand do you? I'l try to be as simple as I can so you can undestand it. Can i play Ninja Gaiden 2 on the pc? Can I play mass effect on the pc? Can I play Fable 2 on the pc? Can I play forza 2 on the pc? Can I play Street Fighter 4 on the pc? The point is that while the pc has alot of great games so do the console and some genres are better suited for depending on wich platform they are.

Well that preatty much sums up my point. But don't wory like always pc games will look better than console games so you can be happy and look at the preatty graphics if you have the right amount of cash.

I'm pretty sure Mass Effect, Street fighter 4 and maybe Fable 2 will come to PC. Did you know? The pictures of Street Fighter 4 was running off a PC build. Anyhow, to the guy saying a Geforce 8600gt>consoles. Its greater than Wii but thats about it. The card blows and don't listen to the guys saying they can run Crysis at high and medium detail with this card. Thing is YOU CAN turn the graphics up that high but what they don't tell you is the FPS they are getting which is probably like 10fps or something crappy. If they can't tell the difference between 10fps and 30fps+ then thats their buisness but don't come here telling everyone else that **** card plays the game fine because it doesn't.

the 8600gt can run crysis on medium with around 30fps but geow/ bioshcok cod 4 it can run more than 30fps maxed out

Medium at 800x600? Then sure. But of course that quality is below trash. Please stop trying to make it seem like the 8600gt is a good card, you are only hurting other people who don't know much about PCs.

nope medium @1280 x 800, the 8600 is a good card in shader intensive games

a 8800GT or what so ever is nothing without a good CPU+enough fast RAM + a fast HDD + a PSU.

[QUOTE="imprezawrx500"][QUOTE="Polaris_choice"][QUOTE="imprezawrx500"][QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

Take this from a PC gamer,

Console hardware has way more potential and capability than an 8600gt. That card will be obsolete next year and wouldn't even run 2009 PS3/360 games. So no.

Could you forumites please stop trying to convince console sheep to get a PC? I don't need more idiots in my community.

Polaris_choice

so how come a geforce 3 can run every xbox game then? your the idiot who thinks it wont run 2009 ps3 games, basicly the only think you need more of in a pc is ram the gpu is hardly doing anything when its not runing a game

Um no a Gforce 3 could not run every xbox game as good as the xbox. Hell it couldnt even run Metal Gear solid 2 worth a crap and that was a PS2 game . If you are going to make an argument you need to have some idea of what you are talking about instead of spraying random crap out of your mouth.

like what late xbox game runs above 640 x480? geforce 3 has no problems running med settings in late xbox games at low resolutions

Sorry but your wrong SC: Chaos Theory is one example I can think of immediatley because ive seen it myself.

and my radeon 9200 which is weaker than the radeon 8500 could run the game on high settings insm 1.1

Look at reviews for the 8600GT on newegg some people get poor framerates with Crysis on high settings even with two cards in SLI. The 8600GT is not godly card that can max out most games. If it was why would anyone buy a 8800GTS or even a GTX?ChevelleFan

I never said it could mex out crysis, but other games on high it can run

[QUOTE="imprezawrx500"][QUOTE="Ramadear"][QUOTE="RevenMan"][QUOTE="imprezawrx500"]

so explain how consoles are so great because they don't have to be upgraded when the gf 8600gt can run bioshock maxed out @ 1280 x 800? not to mention cod4 600p on console 8600gt maxed @1280 x 800

so cows lems whats your excluse now? and btw that card is under $100 and is also in laptops so why are ps3/x360 so huge when you can get more grpahical performance in 15" laptops which are no bigger than the wii if you look at them without the monitor

Ramadear

You still don't understand do you? I'l try to be as simple as I can so you can undestand it. Can i play Ninja Gaiden 2 on the pc? Can I play mass effect on the pc? Can I play Fable 2 on the pc? Can I play forza 2 on the pc? Can I play Street Fighter 4 on the pc? The point is that while the pc has alot of great games so do the console and some genres are better suited for depending on wich platform they are.

Well that preatty much sums up my point. But don't wory like always pc games will look better than console games so you can be happy and look at the preatty graphics if you have the right amount of cash.

I'm pretty sure Mass Effect, Street fighter 4 and maybe Fable 2 will come to PC. Did you know? The pictures of Street Fighter 4 was running off a PC build. Anyhow, to the guy saying a Geforce 8600gt>consoles. Its greater than Wii but thats about it. The card blows and don't listen to the guys saying they can run Crysis at high and medium detail with this card. Thing is YOU CAN turn the graphics up that high but what they don't tell you is the FPS they are getting which is probably like 10fps or something crappy. If they can't tell the difference between 10fps and 30fps+ then thats their buisness but don't come here telling everyone else that **** card plays the game fine because it doesn't.

the 8600gt can run crysis on medium with around 30fps but geow/ bioshcok cod 4 it can run more than 30fps maxed out

Medium at 800x600? Then sure. But of course that quality is below trash. Please stop trying to make it seem like the 8600gt is a good card, you are only hurting other people who don't know much about PCs.

Isn't that Halo 3 resolution 800x600 or not far?

a 8800GT or what so ever is nothing without a good CPU+enough fast RAM + a fast HDD + a PSU.

kingfire11

2gigs of ram @ 800MHZ is 25$... you wish for me to go on?

for those of you who say the 8600gt, gs's cod4 benchmark has it running max settings @1280 x1024 @36fps while consoles only run 600p (something round 640 x480 so about twice the resolution of consoles) and it beats the 7900gtx

then in bioshcok it runs 40fps in high @ 360's resolution

for those of you who say the 8600gt, gs's cod4 benchmark has it running max settings @1280 x1024 @36fps while consoles only run 600p (something round 640 x480 so about twice the resolution of consoles) and it beats the 7900gtx

then in bioshcok it runs 40fps in high @ 360's resolution

imprezawrx500

While that may be so, I can guarantee you that a 2009 game that will be on 360 and PC will most definitely look better on the 360 than on a system with a 8600GT.

Why do console fanboys even bother arguing about hardware?

The vast majority dont even know their own console's hardware capabilities, and simply jump to conclusions and assumptions in their favour.

Example:

While that may be so, I can guarantee you that a 2009 game that will be on 360 and PC will most definitely look better on the 360 than on a system with a 8600GT.

TheCrazed420

No just no.

The 8600GT is a better GPU than the 360s - which is equivilant to a X1950pro.

The 360 version is usually in 720p or Lower non HD res, has less texture filtering, less AA, and medium detail settings.

Compared to the 8600GT on PC which will be the game at a higher native resolution, with higher detail settings ect. ect.

And the 8600 GT isnt even a great card. Its pretty average by PC standards.

The 360s GPU by PC standards is simply lower end.

:roll:

How the heck did you come up with something like that? Honestly.

Assumptions, assumptions.

LOL!!! Im Shocked, Hey What Happens When a PC Gamer Says Xbox 360 Is Worse than His PC?

The Xbox 360 Gamer Could

1.Prove That Xbox360 has More/Better Games

2.Say that The Pc Sucks

3.Compare the Specs

4.Cry And Find every Lamest Excuse Possible

The Answer is

1 and 4

But Actually How Does a Xbox360 Run oblivion Compared to the PC? Can it Play it on all MAX With AA AND AF to Max? Heh No.

I Have a Xbox360 And i compared it to my PC Running on

Specs:Intel Q6600 2.4ghz,

3GB RAM

Nvidia Geforce 8600GT 512mb

I wont go into more Details as its not a PC Specs Comparing Forum lol.

My PC runs oblivion at 1280x1024 MAX AA+AF With 70 Fps inside and 25-40 OutsideBtw 17" Monitor

Now The xbox360, Runs on a 22 Inch TV And The Quality Compared to my Pc is Noticibly Worse, Its around 1280x1024 High AAx2 or none at all and about AF X4 Only.

While it runs faster since its on Lower settings its still worse quality than my PC

Also Now i got a 8800GTS 640MB And guess What? All of ur TDU is better Xbox360 is nothing, My friend ran his tdu at 1900x1200 with HDR and Max Quality With 50-80 Fps on a 8800GTS 640MB Aswell which pwnd the xbox360's frame rate as well as quality

So what u gonna say now Xbox fan boys? *Oh look Xbox360 has Halo3* ? LoL Who cares, Nothing Special with those halo games anyways i played 1 and 2 and still. Halo 3 just looks better graphics than halo 2 and Crappy gameplay from what i hear on *Official Xbox360 Magazines*

So Please... Unless The Xbox *960* Is going to come out and Pwn a Intel C2D 1.8GHZ With 1.5GB Ram and a 8800GTS 320MB Then Please STFU And go play ur Games and have a good time and life and stop wasting ur time fighting Vs Pc gamers.

Well, you convinced me. I'm going to go out and get a 8600gt right away, plug it in to my TV and fire up some Halo 3.Corvin

i just tried that and it doesnt work :?

[QUOTE="RevenMan"][QUOTE="imprezawrx500"]

so explain how consoles are so great because they don't have to be upgraded when the gf 8600gt can run bioshock maxed out @ 1280 x 800? not to mention cod4 600p on console 8600gt maxed @1280 x 800

so cows lems whats your excluse now? and btw that card is under $100 and is also in laptops so why are ps3/x360 so huge when you can get more grpahical performance in 15" laptops which are no bigger than the wii if you look at them without the monitor

lordlors

You still don't understand do you? I'l try to be as simple as I can so you can undestand it. Can i play Ninja Gaiden 2 on the pc? Can I play mass effect on the pc? Can I play Fable 2 on the pc? Can I play forza 2 on the pc? Can I play Street Fighter 4 on the pc? The point is that while the pc has alot of great games so do the console and some genres are better suited for depending on wich platform they are.

Well that preatty much sums up my point. But don't wory like always pc games will look better than console games so you can be happy and look at the preatty graphics if you have the right amount of cash.

Typical hypocrite. Stupid sony and microsoft fanboys always bash the nintendo wii for its graphics and hardware power when in fact their consoles are INFERIOR to high end PCs. Now when we PC gamers say the ps3/xbox360 are inferior to high end PCs, they will use the games just like when nintendo fans will defend their console of choice. Total hypocrisy.

QFT, I think the main problem here is that some people are insecure about their consoles power.

so explain how consoles are so great because they don't have to be upgraded when the gf 8600gt can run bioshock maxed out @ 1280 x 800? not to mention cod4 600p on console 8600gt maxed @1280 x 800

so cows lems whats your excluse now? and btw that card is under $100 and is also in laptops so why are ps3/x360 so huge when you can get more grpahical performance in 15" laptops which are no bigger than the wii if you look at them without the monitor

imprezawrx500

That card sucks anyway, i'm pretty sure, world in conflict will run better on the 360 in march than with this card.... and don't tell me this card can run WIC maxed cause it's simply not true...Second, the 360 gpu isn't far behind from that card... And regarding bioshock and cod4 i'm surprised you maxed them with this card... you may have forgotten some options... Before I got my 8800 gts 512, I couldn't max cod4with descent frame rate with my old 8800 gts 320mb (and igot dual core processor and 3gb in ram...)

8600 GT is a joke. Poor man's gaming card.Big_Black_Eyes

but it does run every game at least as well as consoles, so your point being? anyway what's with this old thread?

8600 GT is a joke. Poor man's gaming card.Big_Black_Eyes

It's a cheap gaming card that is often recommended by PC gamers as part of the sub-$500 PC's that are often listed around here.

I don't think so. My 8600m GT can run Crysis barely on medium at 20-30 FPS. The PC version is just as poweful, maybe 5-10% more poweful. I'm sure a 360 or PS3 could pull off medium setting on Crysis at the same FPS.

Idk if I'd go as far as to say the consoles are as weak as a 8600GT, but I also think your completely retarded if you think any console could handle Crysis on medium as it is on PC, it's not the GPU or even the CPU thats the problem mind you it's just that with the wide open environments in Crysis the consoles simply couldn't even handle it on low with their ram.

I will say though if you did make Crysis a crappy linear shooter like COD4, it would run fine on the consoles in a combination of low/medium settings at 600P :lol:

The console kids are awfully excited about the news that the Crytek 2 engine is up and running on their consoles, but lets be honest this is just a repeat of the xbox and the source/doom 3 engine which while they technically ran on the xbox they ran like complete crap.

I mean ffs the 360/PS3 are having trouble running source and the Doom 3 engine too in games like Orange box, Prey, Quake 4 and as you will soon see the upcomming Quake Wars yet you think the Crytek 2 engine will be sunshine and rainbows on console? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

The gen after this gen may have issues with it let alone this one :lol:

so explain how consoles are so great because they don't have to be upgraded when the gf 8600gt can run bioshock maxed out @ 1280 x 800? not to mention cod4 600p on console 8600gt maxed @1280 x 800

so cows lems whats your excluse now? and btw that card is under $100 and is also in laptops so why are ps3/x360 so huge when you can get more grpahical performance in 15" laptops which are no bigger than the wii if you look at them without the monitor

imprezawrx500

Consoles are easier to use with no hassel. My grandmother could load up and play a console game easier then a PC game. It's not even about graphics. Most console owners would rather player their exclusives on a HDTV with friends instead of trying to play PC games in front of a 19in monitor. I see Pc gaming as a one person gaming machine.

[QUOTE="imprezawrx500"]

so explain how consoles are so great because they don't have to be upgraded when the gf 8600gt can run bioshock maxed out @ 1280 x 800? not to mention cod4 600p on console 8600gt maxed @1280 x 800

so cows lems whats your excluse now? and btw that card is under $100 and is also in laptops so why are ps3/x360 so huge when you can get more grpahical performance in 15" laptops which are no bigger than the wii if you look at them without the monitor

blackace

Consoles are easier to use with no hassel. My grandmother could load up and play a console game easier then a PC game. It's not even about graphics. Most console owners would rather player their exclusives on a HDTV with friends instead of trying to play PC games in front of a 19in monitor. I see Pc gaming as a one person gaming machine.

Well, you convinced me. I'm going to go out and get a 8600gt right away, plug it in to my TV and fire up some Halo 3.Corvin

Idk if I'd go as far as to say the consoles are as weak as a 8600GT, but I also think your completely retarded if you think any console could handle Crysis on medium as it is on PC, it's not the GPU or even the CPU thats the problem mind you it's just that with the wide open environments in Crysis the consoles simply couldn't even handle it on low with their ram.

I will say though if you did make Crysis a crappy linear shooter like COD4, it would run fine on the consoles in a combination of low/medium settings at 600P :lol:

The console kids are awfully excited about the news that the Crytek 2 engine is up and running on their consoles, but lets be honest this is just a repeat of the xbox and the source/doom 3 engine which while they technically ran on the xbox they ran like complete crap.

I mean ffs the 360/PS3 are having trouble running source and the Doom 3 engine too in games like Orange box, Prey, Quake 4 and as you will soon see the upcomming Quake Wars yet you think the Crytek 2 engine will be sunshine and rainbows on console? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

The gen after this gen may have issues with it let alone this one :lol:

zipozal

Doom3 ran VERY well on the Xbox admittedly it was at 720x576- but framerate was smooth & the game looked excellent. & the Xbox is a machine with only a 733Mhz Celeron processor, a Geforce3 video card & a paltry 64MB of RAM!

& u were getting better performance from that than compared to PCs with 256MB RAM + 64MB graphics cards & 2Ghz CPUs!!

Doom3 ran VERY well on the Xbox admittedly it was at 720x576- but framerate was smooth & the game looked excellent. & the Xbox is a machine with only a 733Mhz Celeron processor, a Geforce3 video card & a paltry 64MB of RAM!

& u were getting better performance from that than compared to PCs with 256MB RAM + 64MB graphics cards & 2Ghz CPUs!!

CwlHeddwyn

Friend had old P4, Geforce 2 64mb, 256mb ram, and he ran it 30fps+ 800X600 or 1024X960 - medium detail.