Generally, are Xbox exclusives less enjoyable?

I didn't say TLOU shouldn't be considered a game for the PS4. I also didn't say it shouldn't be considered a positive for the platform; more good games is always good. I simply said it's not an exclusive, which is a fact.

I know you're smarter than this Heil.

The ps4 is just godly. Yesterday I walked into walmart and saw a huge poster for MLB the show when I walked in the front. I thought to myself damn im glad I own this system.Felt a warm breeze coming from the ps4 section and walked over and picked up ratchet and clank.

I wish my xbox one made me feel like this, sadly it just doesn't. Game wise they're pretty similar some call them the "twins". But the PS4 is the arnold schwarzenegger and XB1 is the danny devito the crappier twin who just keeps sucking and messing things up. PS4 is the beastly twin who's like a little taller, a little stronger, a little cooler, a little friendlier.

Ratchet & Clank > Sunset Overdrive (ratchet was 20 dollars cheaper at launch as well as better looking and friendlier to an old school gamer)

MLB Show > XB1 Baseball Games

Bloodborne > XB1 RPGs

My Predictions also see sony taking the upper hand in the future.

Infamous > Crackdown

Uncharted 4 > Quantum Break

Horizon Zero Down > Scalebound

God of War 4 > Ryse

Grand Turismo > Forza

Grand Turismo Sport > Forza Horizon

Nier > ReCore

Last Guardian > Sea of Thieves

Like I said the ps4 is just a monster the games are flat out better the system is better why hide behind the truth?

Well, honestly that's completely subjective.

That said....I haven't played any X1 exclusives but they don't appeal to me in the least.

The only one I want to play is MCC.

Interesting topic.

To be honest I don´t feel like this when it comes to PS vs X1. I always tend to give more importance to gameplay than to any other aspect of a videogame, that´s why I think, for example, that Halo 4 is the best of the series (never played 5). And PS games for me tend to be worst than Xbox´s, and in a totally different universe if compared with Nintendo. But on the other hand I can totally understand that a product like The Last of Us can be seen as the pinnacle of gaming by so many people, because it delivers a more polished product, despite in-game being at times laughable. For that same reason I feel like Nintendo tends to deliver incredible solid mechanics and gameplay, above their contenders. But seeing how Nintendo has been struggling, it shows how irrelevant this is for the masses.

In a fighting game it does (especially when they have the same roster and ice climbers were taken out of the wii u version because they couldnt make them work on the 3ds version), brawl and 4 are very different games, but 4 3ds and 4 wii u are pretty much the same game (one is just a lite version). They even share a wiki page!

You're on SW bro. If you want to change the rules go somewhere else. You are coming off as a really salty lem right now.

@Legend002: I personally don't think MS has the best exclusives, but I do own an Xbox. Then again, my system preference is not made off of exclusives. I also own a Wii U and I think they have the best exclusives, but it's not the best system IMO. I don't really care about exclusives outside of the Nintendo ones. In the last 3 gens I've only had either a MS console or a Sony console in my home at one time, though I've owned them all at one point or another. The reality is, I just miss some games. MLB The Show for example. I'd love to be able to play it, or any decent baseball game for that matter. Unfortunately, I can't because I don't own a PS4. I also missed some Tales of games because I was more of an Xbox guy. That sucks for me, but it doesn't drive my purchasing decisions. If I flipped it, then I'd miss the Forza series. Yeah it's coming to PC blah blah but I have no intention of playing games not on Steam so it may as well be an exclusive for me. For me it's about the ecosystem. Where are my friends? What apps are available? etc. I'll probably never fully switch from MS to Sony simply because of my current investment in the MS world. Not that I don't like the Sony product...I do. I just don't have the resources (time/money) to fully invest into both AND whatever Nintendo product is available.

I see cows still having problems distinguishing facts from opinion. Only the most diehard, psychotic, delusional, mouth breathing, basement dwelling while gaming in his briefs cow can't grasp that concept.

Opinion =/= fact

That's a BIG problem with fanboys, they just can't wrap their head around their preferences isn't a fact. They like the Playstation, they love the Playstation and want to sleep with it and that's fine but that's their opinion. There's people that love the Xbox just as much and the PC and Nintendo so no one is wrong for liking what they do but in their world, if you like something that they don't, they you're wrong, your irrelevant LOL. Just dumb.

There is no hope for anyone who thinks that they should follow the "rules" of a silly game forum instead of common sense and reality.

You're completely ignoring the differences in stages and game modes. Not to mention that the mechanics of the 3DS and Wii versions are by no means identical.

You say "Brawl and 4 are very different games but 3DS 4 and Wii U 4 are the same game" but you're not explaining why. Something is not true just because you insist on it.

What does a Wiki page have to do with anything? It's completely irrelevant to the argument.

The fact that two of your points were categorically false (your assertion that they're both called Smash 4 and your comparison to Pokemon) should clue you in that maybe you should rethink your argument a bit. That's not to say that it absolutely must be considered exclusive, but at the very least it's debatable.

Why would anyone else's feelings or opinions on a game make the game less enjoyable for me LOL. You don't have to like what I like and vice versa.

I'm sorry but you have to take off the Nintendo goggles for a little bit. What differentiates the 3ds version from the wii u one (other than stages and modes which are very small details that are easily interchangeable), why does the production of the 3ds version effect the wii u version Because they want them to be the same game and why does everyone call both smash 4 instead of smash 4 and 5?

As for Brawl, you cannot tell me that they play the same. Brawl is way more floaty than Smash 4, the entire flow of the game is different between 4 and Brawl... Transformations, items are removed and new ones added, movesets are reworked and balanced, ect...

I acknowledged that their are differences between Brawl and Smash 4 (most notably in terms of game feel), but the basic mechanics are very similar. This is true for most fighting game sequels. Fighting games don't do big changes; they do incremental changes.

You can't just dismiss the difference in stages and game modes because it helps your argument. They are not small details. In fighting games, stages and modes are very important. Game modes=a game's content. It's absurd to call them a small detail.

Yes, the two versions play very similarly, but they certainly don't play identically (which is not even feasible because of the power difference between the 3DS and the Wii U).

Also, the two games have a noticeably different graphical style.

It doesn't matter if "everyone" calls it Smash 4 because Nintendo, the people who actually made the game, acknowledge them by separate titles: SSB for Wii U and SSB for 3DS.

You say that I'm wearing Nintendo goggles, but I'm not the one making false statements about the games. Your Pokemon comparison shows that you aren't informed on the differences between the two versions. The two versions of Pokemon are INDENTICAL whereas SSB Wii U and SSB 3DS are SIMILAR.

User scores? Lol

I own both versions of the game and the DLC for both as well, dont call me uninformed about the game... They play the same...

Sure, but do you think people debate of if a game is a "true" exclusive, like they give a shit if QB is on PC or TLOU is on PS3 and go,m damn, wish that was a true excluive11!!!!

Do you think those thoughts or even if a game is a true exclusive? From what I can tell by people on both MS/Sony side, they dont care and buy into "console exclusive". or "Timed Exclusive"

Your description of a silly game forum implies to that conversation as well.

Sorry, but if you think that your Pokemon comparison is in any way valid, you are uninformed.

Even if they did "play the same," that doesn't invalidate the other differences.

Nintendo, the people who actually made the game, acknowledge them by separate titles: Pokemon Sun and Pokemon Moon

I'm not putting any value on exclusives. I'm sure somebody looking for games at the store couldn't care less if ithey're exclusive or not. They just want fun games to play and yes, in that regard, PS4 is a probably better bet than the Xbox One because it has a bigger selection.

All I'm saying that this trend of trying to redefine the word exclusive is the kind of thing that kills brain cells.

I don't know if you're trying to be cute, but here are the facts: the two versions of Pokemon games are identical. The two versions of Smash are not identical. They're very similar, but there are clear differences (stages, game modes, art style).

Also, there's a difference between continuing the tradition of having two different "colors" ala White/Blue Ruby/Sapphire (both on the same platform) and having one version of Smash Bros that is specifically for 3DS and one that is specifically for Wii U.

Trying to conflate the two situations is ignorant at best, dishonest at worst.

naw there are clear differences in pokemon. Different pokemon that you cant get in the other version, different antagonists, different legendary pokemon. They are different games man

Also there is only one version of playstation all-stars on vita and ps3. Still the same game

In Pokemon, the differences are completely superficial. In SSB, they are not. Completely different modes and stages in a fighting game are big differences.

Are you trying to be cute or do you actually believe this comparison is valid?

The changes between the 3ds version and the wii u version are superficial. Stages and modes are superficial, what it comes down to is the roster and the fighting mechanics which are identical

Yes, they are less enjoyable.

That, or Xbox doesn't have a rabid online fanbase like the other companies.

No, stages and modes are not superficial. They are key pillars of a fighting game's content and architecture. Different mode cans completely change the way that the player progresses through a game.

There is absolutely no rule saying that the roster has more weight than the stages/modes in making a game "different" (if this was true, one could make a case that Complete Edition fighting games are different games from the more barebones originals). You're just saying that because it's convenient for your argument.

The mechanics part of your argument is stronger, but still doesn't hold up since many sequels of games share identical mechanics with their predecessor.

In any case, as I said, whether the game is exclusive is debatable, but your comparison is simply incorrect. There is much more of a difference between Smash 3DS and Smash Wii U than Pokemon X/Y or Sun/Moon or whatever.

It is hard to go off of a site that will allow me to go on there right now and rate a game a 1, with no evidence that I have ever played the game.

To be honest with you, I have enjoyed the games on the X1 more than the games on the PS4. Games like Sunset Overdrive, Halo 5, and Forza Horizon 2 have been a blast to play through.

I'm not saying that the PS4 doesn't have good games, because it does, but the heavy hitters are just coming out this year.

To each their own though. I own both consoles, so I don't have to miss out on any game I don't want to miss out on. Benefits of not being a fanboy I guess.

PC has been crushing them both though, and that it where most of my gaming time will be spent.

The modes are variations of the same mode

It doesnt share identical mechanics with its predecessor

"There is much more of a difference between Smash 3DS and Smash Wii U than Pokemon X/Y or Sun/Moon or whatever.", yes there is, but the argument that they have different titles makes them different is null. They are both Smash 4

Variations of the same mode? Wut?

I'm not saying its mechanics are identical to Brawl. What I'm saying is that two having the "same mechanics" doesn't always tell the whole story. There are examples of games in which different entries in the same series have the same mechanics. For instance, Devil Digital Saga 1 and 2. Those are different games for many reasons, but you wouldn't be able to make that argument on the basis on the two games having different mechanics cause they don't.

My argument doesn't hinge upon them having different titles. I was just countering your point that "they're both called Smash 4." Technically, neither game is called Smash 4.

No xbox games are the only full games in today's standards of gaming ... Sony makes a bunch of 1 play through games and then they are shelved ... for how great people think of sonys. Games they can't make an online part to save they life

Cows only enjoy games which they are told to enjoy by other people

How many redundant threads can PlayStation fanboys make?

Sony is more focused on SP only games. MS is more focused on online games. for my preference I prefer the online games. Halo has the best PvP for any FPS out there (and best overall) co-op campaign, and adding a co-op horde mode. Gears has the best PvP for any TPS (and 2nd bets overall) an awesome horde mode (probably only 2nd to mass effect) and a campaign thats co-op, Sunset had an 8 player co-op mode, titanfall was PvP and co-op only, scalebound has a 4 player co-op mode, crackdown has a 4 player co-op campaign, DR3 has co-op campaign, Ryse had a 2 player co-op mode, etc etc. Sony offered killzone and driveclub and thats it. plus MS has dedicated servers for all their games for a great online experience. The beta for UC4 was rough meanwhile halo plays like a dream

Personally I prefer online games. Thats why I haven't used my PS4 that much. I'd rather play with friends, it's more fun.

Oh please. We're trying to take user scores seriously now?

Xbox exclusives are mostly mediocre dudebro games. They have some gems but the fact is MS is too invested in making money than creating quality, it's why the Xbone currently is a flop. MS's greed constantly drags them down.

I've enjoyed a whopping one so far, and it was Halo 5, and it was the multiplayer (which is quite good). Which as much as I was enjoying it, I'm just burnt out on Halo. To be fair the only good PS4 exclusive in these 2 years has been Bloodborne, the rest of their exclusives have been trash (haven't played Until Dawn) or at best mediocre. Uncharted 4 shoudl at least be good, but I'm looking forward to stuff like Nioh, The Last Guardian, and Horizon, since those don't look like the same ol same ol.

Even with their samey nature, The WiiU is like 3 or 4 classes better in the exclusives department. This gen exclusive wise has been a joke so far.

@i_p_daily said:

@Legend002: Still trying to downplay anything Xbox, and failing miserably, you poor bastard.

As for using user scores from metacritic, well......

Lol, yep.

LOLOL so true

I used to [well still do] prefer my PS4 over my Xbox One and Wii U, and it had little to do with games. Console experiences are more than just about games. Software, apps, controller, etc. are all things that culminate in a console package but that's just me.

Oh God, you just had to use the most ass-backwards metrics for this point.

Damn just looked up rare replay and its kinda makes the xbox one worth owning all on its own! Its like the orange box times 10!

Pretty much stopped reading when you said XBox exclusive don't score over 8.0 score. lol!! Why would anyone look at User Scores since we all know biased fanboys who don't even play XBox games will rate every XBox games a 0 on Metacritics. I'd look at the professional scores. Even on Metacritic those are tainted because many of the reviews don't make it on Metacritic. Here are scores for you.

• Halo - 97 - User 8.6
• Halo 2 - 95
• Halo 3 - 94
• Halo 4 - 87
• Halo Wars - 82
• Halo Reach - 91
• PGR - 85
• PGR 2 - 90
• PGR 3 - 88
• PGR 4 - 85
• Gears of War - 94
• Gears of War 2 - 93
• Gears of War 3 - 91
• Forza - 85
• Forza 2 - 90se
• Forza 3 - 92
• Forza 4 - 91
• Forza 6 - 87
• Forza Horizion - 85
• Forza Horizion 2 - 86
• Sunset Overdrive - 81
• Rare Replay - 84
• Halo MCC - 85
• Ori and the Blind Forest - 88

Don't think XBox has a problem with exclusive games that are 8.0 or higher. Sure, some of the new stuff like Ryse and Quantum Break didn't hit the mark, but then you have Sunset Overdrive, Ori, Forza Horizon 2, Forza 6, Halo: MCC and Rare Replay that did just fine.

Yeah this guy is really bad at it. One of the super cows on this site should take him under their wings and teach him the true ways of cowism, because he really is embarrassing their religion at the moment. Cowabunga :P

You should add Tropical Freeze to the Wii U list. It was underrated by users with a 9.0/10 score.

In any case, I feel like Sony fanboyism may have toyed with these Xbox scores. They are a ravenous lot.

Damn, the lemmonz are getting really desperate with all these alts.

xbox games are only less enjoyable in the minds of sony fanboys, most of whom never even play the games they constantly bash.

Its really apparent in this forum. Compare the number of xbox bashing posts by sony fanboys to the number of posts they make about ps4 games they enjoy playing which are almost non existent. Not to mention tons of conjecture posts such as raving about SFV and claiming KI to be dead when the reality is KI is a game with a more healthy community than SFV in its current shape. Same thing happened with DriveClub and Forza 6.

Yeah its system wars, but if all you have to talk about day after day is how terrible xbox is and not how great the games on ps4 are, it doesnt really come across as really being more enjoyable imho.

I have found them the most enjoyable of all.

Personally i dont give a crap about scores.

HALO series never ever were appealing to me , scoring 5 or 10 doesnt matter. Same for games like Forza since im not the biggest fan of racing games. Gears is somewhat appealing but not the title that will make me spend 400$. So whats left ?

The only game X1 will get that im interested is CUPHEAD , an indie game which most likely will find its way to PC as well soon or later.

Basically the reason Xbox exclusives are, well, not as good as Playstation exclusives in general comes down to the fact that MS refuses to take chances. They (MS) stick solely to money-maker concepts when it comes to exclusives, so what you get is a bunch of generic, thoughtless games. Once in a while something even remotely unique might pop up, but in general the rule with Xbox exclusives seems to be whatever the common gamer (read: casuals) want, the common gamer gets.