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#1 BobHipJames
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Damn, I've been looking for these for a long time, and finally I found a bunch of screens on Gamespot that are um....shall we say dwell not in the realm of myth and high expectation?

Here's a promo screen. Pretty, no? Look at the IQ, the texture quality, the clarity. Lovely stuff, really. Now, of course, all lemmings know that it looks EXACTLY like this when you're playing it.

And here's the real world:

Ruh roh. Houston, get a confirmation on that ugly screen. Ugly Duckling, is that a false advertising? Ah....I'm getting a transmission from HQ, they say that you're cherry picking.

And here's some backup:

So, right then. Rather than discussing the merits of my screenshot picking (which would be ironic considering the first screen is the loveliest one I could find), I ask that you help yourself: http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/gearsofwar2/images.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=gsimage&tag=images%3Bheader%3Bmore&page=1

Then answer this question: Which of those screens do you think are BOGUS, and which of these screens do you think are actual gameplay screens, captured from the framebuffer?

It sure would be clever of Gamespot if they added aliasing and full-screen blur, fooling with the IQ, texture filtering/quality retroactively just to make my point for me. What I'm trying to say is, don't pee on my leg and tell me it's raining people. You've been feeding us garbage screens since this game came out and claiming they're real-time gameplay screens. May I ask that we simply try to be OBJECTIVE for once and don't make the presumption that just because a screen looks nice it's representative of gameplay? I will even grant the opposite, but you will notice that there is a very firm dichotomy in this Nov 3rd batch of screenies, either they look AWESOME, or they look TERRIBLE (at least not living up to GeoW's tremendous ethos. Either those screens are HEAVILY, HEAVILY, transparently doctored to look amazing, or Gamespot wants to prove my point for me.

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/gearsofwar2/review.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=gssummary&tag=summary;read-review

"All-new, great-looking environments

The original Gears of War was a spectacular-looking game, and the sequel maintains this high technical and artistic quality. Instead of pushing for increased visual fidelity, the graphics engine adds a couple of other dimensions to the presentation, with walls that crumble under gunfire and dozens of enemies onscreen at once. These new features don't necessarily affect the gameplay, but they look good and help add to the dramatic scale that the designers have chosen"

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/gearsofwar/review.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=gssummary&tag=summary;read-review

"Consider Gears of War to be the game that raised the bar for how console games should look from here on out. The character models are thick and look outstanding. The gray, war-torn environments are nicely varied throughout the game, and the game is full of amazing standout visual moments [...]"

Given that, I don't think the latter is very damn likely. Discuss, flame, whatever.

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#2 Lto_thaG
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The first one.Like I said before,the game looks insane.
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#3 RyanShazam
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The games looks way better than the pictures you posted.
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#4 Al3x_n90
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Ok we all know gears2 looks great but not all it's hyped to be :P still it's a great looking game,looks better in motion :)
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#5 II_Seraphim_II
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Can't we all just agree that Gears2 looks amazing and move on? Why are people even arguing about this? Can anyone seriously deny that Gears2 is a technical powerhouse?
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#6 MaximumD
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I've been playing the game and it looks just like part 1. It's a blur fest and not much colors to it. The only upgrade I see in graphics in part 2 is the character models. It looks a little sharper.
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#7 Lto_thaG
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Can't we all just agree that Gears2 looks amazing and move on? Why are people even arguing about this? Can anyone seriously deny that Gears2 is a technical powerhouse? II_Seraphim_II
I think a few people can,yes.
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#8 BioShockOwnz
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It looks absolutely stunning on my 57 incher Sammy, and that's all that matters to me. Ruh-roh!
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#9 II_Seraphim_II
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[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"]Can't we all just agree that Gears2 looks amazing and move on? Why are people even arguing about this? Can anyone seriously deny that Gears2 is a technical powerhouse? Lto_thaG
I think a few people can,yes.

hate to be those people, because i would have to be blind :p
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#10 Floppy_Jim
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Sure, the graphics were overhyped but the game looks way better than the 2nd screen makes it look. It's easily on par with the 1st screen.
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#11 BobHipJames
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Can't we all just agree that Gears2 looks amazing and move on? Why are people even arguing about this? Can anyone seriously deny that Gears2 is a technical powerhouse? II_Seraphim_II
The real question, I suppose, is whether you're willing to acknowledge screens right in front of your eyes. Please don't pee on my leg and tell me it's raining. It's not a matter of whether or not the game looks good, because it does. It's a matter of whether or not its the "graphics king," best graphics ever, Crysis-rival kind of crap. By the way, all of you guys trying to up the ante on falsehoods and exaggeration, please try and tone it down. I realize that OMG IT LOOKS BETTER THAN ALL THOSE SCREENS is an appropriate knee-jerk reaction for somebody allergic to objectivity and honesty, but I'm trying to have a reasonable discussion here.
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#12 longshotgir
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Remember that one time i spammed 28 high-resolution Gears 2 screens? Yeah, dont make me do it again. The game looks stunnig and it is the best of consoles, and it will remain king until RE5 and maybe KZ2 (i still have some doubts about the technical side, cute lighting just doesnt cut it).And even then, i think it will remain one of the technical powerhouses. Bottomline is the game looks great. Im done in this thread, replies made to be will be replied with ur mom.
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#13 II_Seraphim_II
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[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"]Can't we all just agree that Gears2 looks amazing and move on? Why are people even arguing about this? Can anyone seriously deny that Gears2 is a technical powerhouse? BobHipJames
The real question, I suppose, is whether you're willing to acknowledge screens right in front of your eyes. Please don't pee on my leg and tell me it's raining. It's not a matter of whether or not the game looks good, because it does. It's a matter of whether or not its the "graphics king," best graphics ever, Crysis-rival kind of crap. By the way, all of you guys trying to up the ante on falsehoods and exaggeration, please try and tone it down. I realize that OMG IT LOOKS BETTER THAN ALL THOSE SCREENS is an appropriate knee-jerk reaction for somebody allergic to objectivity and honesty, but I'm trying to have a reasonable discussion here.

ah ok. Yes discussing whether its graphics king is valid. Im justthrowing it out there for all the people who say Gears2 looks like crap.
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#14 locopatho
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When I saw pic 1 pefore Gears released, I thought "Bullshot." and moved on. But yes, it really did look that good in game!
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#15 jwsoul
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Sure, the graphics were overhyped but the game looks way better than the 2nd screen makes it look. It's easily on par with the 1st screen.Floppy_Jim

This is interesting i need to get hold of Gears 2, but im gonna be honest here looking at th 1st screen it IS BLATENTLY been touched up!

Facts

1. Look at his head scarf in the 1st picture and compare it to the head scarf in the second picture, notice the AA increase ? Well you should!

2. the 1st picture of the game is stunning showing an expansive area with a lot of light sources and chracters in view, the second screen shows a much more simple area with chracters in view but yet at less AA, worse lighting effect,and the resolution somehow looks worse........

3. Its quite sad touching up computer game screens just to prove a point! Honestly GEOW2 from what i can see is the best looking or one of the best looking console games out just leave it at that.

4. Going to my mates cousins tomorow he has a HD TV after we finish playing Halo 3 im going to put Gears of War 2 on and see for myself i reckong im going to be impressed tobe honest the game looks immense, but i want to see how good looking it is for myself because even after saying all of the above maybe the second screen was taken on a normal TV or a bad setup!

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#16 metalgear-solid
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The game looks stunnig and it is the best of consoles, and it will remain king until RE5 and maybe KZ2longshotgir
MGS4, Uncharted etc look better and they're on the consoles.
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#17 sonny2dap
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I still think mass effect looks better.
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#18 SamiRDuran
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i've played gears 2 and looks good but nowhere near the first promo screen. it looks better though than the screens you posted.
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#19 Salt_The_Fries
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The games looks way better than the pictures you posted.RyanShazam
No doubt, and I finished the game lately. And that first screen is real. The second is from completely different source, and it doesn't look that bad in reality, though I must say that the game looks more and more impressive with each another level.
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#20 Epak_
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I can also confirm that the first shot is indeed real :P
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#21 longshotgir
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Ok i cant quote because im currently on a BB, but metalgear-solid: 1-ur mom 2-no 3-anyone that reads your name instantly loses credibility on a possible unbiased opinion coming out of you.
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#22 romans828_2002
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I still think mass effect looks better.sonny2dap
Mass Effect is a good looking game, but it's nowhere near Gears 2. The screen tearing alone makes Mass Effect look worse (not hating on Mass Effect - I love the game). It also looks better than Uncharted (which I loved) and MGSIV (which I didn't like). Something will come along that looks better, but Gears 2 is a great looking game, no matter how you cut it. Oh, and it's a crapload of fun, too!
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#23 LosDaddie
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Gears2 easily looks on par with the 1st screen on my 61" 1080p LCD
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#24 longshotgir
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^61"?! Son of a !
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#25 WWIAB
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I wouldn't say it was quite on par with the 1st screen, but incredibly better than the second screen.....or thats I how I see it, I still like Uncharted for Graphics....shame the gameplay is limper than half cooked spaghetti
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#26 shoeman12
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games always look better in motion than in pics. play the game all the way through.
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#27 BioShockOwnz
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Gears2 easily looks on par with the 1st screen on my 61" 1080p LCDLosDaddie

Damn, 4" bigger than mine. Size doesn't matter, though! :cry:

And I agree, it looks on par with the first screen on my set.

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#28 longshotgir
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^awww screw you guys :( whatever happened to the days a 50" was king? My telly's gettin old ;_; or small..? Anyway i agree, the game looks great on big screenies! And not a sign of a jaggie for me at least.
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#29 Animal-Mother
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Can't we all just agree that Gears2 looks amazing and move on? Why are people even arguing about this? Can anyone seriously deny that Gears2 is a technical powerhouse? II_Seraphim_II
it is but even on my 32 inch, 1080p sony TV it looks alright, not as good as it could have
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#30 Floppy_Jim
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[QUOTE="longshotgir"]^awww screw you guys :( whatever happened to the days a 50" was king? My telly's gettin old ;_; or small..? Anyway i agree, the game looks great on big screenies! And not a sign of a jaggie for me at least.

I think you guys are fine, I'm stuck with a 26". :(
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There, in game singplayer screenshots from Gears 2.
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#32 marklarmer
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[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"]Can't we all just agree that Gears2 looks amazing and move on? Why are people even arguing about this? Can anyone seriously deny that Gears2 is a technical powerhouse? Animal-Mother
it is but even on my 32 inch, 1080p sony TV it looks alright, not as good as it could have

yes, shame on Epic for not delaying the game for another 2 years just so they could make it look a bit better.
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#33 longshotgir
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^32 inch? There you go.it's a game meant for bigger screens imo..
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[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"]Can't we all just agree that Gears2 looks amazing and move on? Why are people even arguing about this? Can anyone seriously deny that Gears2 is a technical powerhouse? BobHipJames
The real question, I suppose, is whether you're willing to acknowledge screens right in front of your eyes. Please don't pee on my leg and tell me it's raining. It's not a matter of whether or not the game looks good, because it does. It's a matter of whether or not its the "graphics king," best graphics ever, Crysis-rival kind of crap. By the way, all of you guys trying to up the ante on falsehoods and exaggeration, please try and tone it down. I realize that OMG IT LOOKS BETTER THAN ALL THOSE SCREENS is an appropriate knee-jerk reaction for somebody allergic to objectivity and honesty, but I'm trying to have a reasonable discussion here.

K, answer: It looks good, yes. It is console graphics king: no. It rivals Crysis: hell no.
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[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"]Can't we all just agree that Gears2 looks amazing and move on? Why are people even arguing about this? Can anyone seriously deny that Gears2 is a technical powerhouse? BobHipJames
The real question, I suppose, is whether you're willing to acknowledge screens right in front of your eyes. Please don't pee on my leg and tell me it's raining. It's not a matter of whether or not the game looks good, because it does. It's a matter of whether or not its the "graphics king," best graphics ever, Crysis-rival kind of crap. By the way, all of you guys trying to up the ante on falsehoods and exaggeration, please try and tone it down. I realize that OMG IT LOOKS BETTER THAN ALL THOSE SCREENS is an appropriate knee-jerk reaction for somebody allergic to objectivity and honesty, but I'm trying to have a reasonable discussion here.

Same could be said about KZ2 and uncharted 2,specially uncharted 2 bullshots that you don't seem to complain about those ;),geow2 doesn't look like that on my TV deal with it.
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#36 samusarmada
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[QUOTE="longshotgir"]^awww screw you guys :( whatever happened to the days a 50" was king? My telly's gettin old ;_; or small..? Anyway i agree, the game looks great on big screenies! And not a sign of a jaggie for me at least.Floppy_Jim
I think you guys are fine, I'm stuck with a 26". :(

14 inch square. I win.
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#37 yoshi_64
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Gears2 easily looks on par with the 1st screen on my 61" 1080p LCDLosDaddie
Mine is 65" I wins! :D But really, the game looks amazing... if I had a camera I'd take pics of it in action. Looks great, so do many other great games I own.
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[QUOTE="BobHipJames"][QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"]Can't we all just agree that Gears2 looks amazing and move on? Why are people even arguing about this? Can anyone seriously deny that Gears2 is a technical powerhouse? Chutebox
The real question, I suppose, is whether you're willing to acknowledge screens right in front of your eyes. Please don't pee on my leg and tell me it's raining. It's not a matter of whether or not the game looks good, because it does. It's a matter of whether or not its the "graphics king," best graphics ever, Crysis-rival kind of crap. By the way, all of you guys trying to up the ante on falsehoods and exaggeration, please try and tone it down. I realize that OMG IT LOOKS BETTER THAN ALL THOSE SCREENS is an appropriate knee-jerk reaction for somebody allergic to objectivity and honesty, but I'm trying to have a reasonable discussion here.

K, answer: It looks good, yes. It is console graphics king: no. It rivals Crysis: hell no.

Who said it rivals Crysis? I've seen more cows claim Haze (before it released. There are threads on here if you want to search.), Uncharted, and now KZ2 are "Crysis-rival kind of crap". BobHip, if you want to call a fanboy group out, then atleast call the right group out, my friend.

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I seriously don't know why people go to such great lengths to "prove" that Gears of War 2 doesn't look as good as people say it does.

The game looks freaking great. I can honestly say it's the best looking game available on a console (Killzone 2 isn't out yet people).

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#40 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="BobHipJames"] The real question, I suppose, is whether you're willing to acknowledge screens right in front of your eyes. Please don't pee on my leg and tell me it's raining. It's not a matter of whether or not the game looks good, because it does. It's a matter of whether or not its the "graphics king," best graphics ever, Crysis-rival kind of crap. By the way, all of you guys trying to up the ante on falsehoods and exaggeration, please try and tone it down. I realize that OMG IT LOOKS BETTER THAN ALL THOSE SCREENS is an appropriate knee-jerk reaction for somebody allergic to objectivity and honesty, but I'm trying to have a reasonable discussion here.BioShockOwnz

K, answer: It looks good, yes. It is console graphics king: no. It rivals Crysis: hell no.

Who said it rivals Crysis? I've seen more cows claim Haze (before it released. There are threads on here if you want to search.), Uncharted, and now KZ2 are "Crysis-rival kind of crap". BobHip, if you want to call a fanboy group out, then atleast call the right group out, my friend.

No one really said it, I was just responding to that.

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#41 BioShockOwnz
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="Chutebox"] K, answer: It looks good, yes. It is console graphics king: no. It rivals Crysis: hell no.Chutebox

Who said it rivals Crysis? I've seen more cows claim Haze (before it released. There are threads on here if you want to search.), Uncharted, and now KZ2 are "Crysis-rival kind of crap". BobHip, if you want to call a fanboy group out, then atleast call the right group out, my friend.

No one really said it, I was just responding to that.

Oh, I know you weren't saying that. Sorry if you thought that. I was just wondering why the TC thinks that. Who's been saying that?

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#42 Mckenna1845
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I seriously don't know why people go to such great lengths to "prove" that Gears of War 2 doesn't look as good as people say it does.

The game looks freaking great. I can honestly say it's the best looking game available on a console (Killzone 2 isn't out yet people).

The_Game21x
lol i know, and does it even matter what it looks like? if people are impressed let them be impressed, if you think the game looks like crap don't play/look at it. I think it looks amazing, and is a great game. Just a shame that my disk is assed up and keeps getting disc errors, tried it on multiple consoles, but i'm passed the worm level so i have a decent judgement.
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#43 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Who said it rivals Crysis? I've seen more cows claim Haze (before it released. There are threads on here if you want to search.), Uncharted, and now KZ2 are "Crysis-rival kind of crap". BobHip, if you want to call a fanboy group out, then atleast call the right group out, my friend.

BioShockOwnz

No one really said it, I was just responding to that.

Oh, I know you weren't saying that. Sorry if you thought that. I was just wondering why the TC thinks that. Who's been saying that?

Oh, no clue. LIke you I really haven't seen anyone say that.
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#45 Lcamm
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Gears 2 is without a shadow of a doubt the best looking game on consoles until RE5 and KZ2

It looks 10x better then Movie gear solid 4 does in fact there are probably 20 console games that are better looking then mgs4 is

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#47 BobHipJames
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Gears2 easily looks on par with the 1st screen on my 61" 1080p LCDLosDaddie
That's funny, because this game doesn't display natively in 1080p and thus the upscaling combined with the effect of having a low resolution native image displayed on such a large TV wouldn't exactly equate to a lovely, crisp, touched up 720p screen that's obviously not representative in any way of ANY 360 game considering it'd be impossible to have that level of anti-aliasing ALONE with that kind of fidelity. That, and I've played the damn game. I really think you guys are yanking my chain as a sign of solidarity. Viva la lem, or something? By the way, longshotgir, post those screens. I'm sick of waiting. I'm sick of reading two sentence responses that basically read "OH YEH 16XAA FO SHOH IN REAL LIFE IT LOOKS THAT GUD!" No, it doesn't. No, sorry. It doesn't. And explain those travesties that were the second and third screens. The game suddenly lost all the texture filtering and anti-aliasing? For what? So I could make a point? So I could cast doubt on the vaunted graphics kang?
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[QUOTE="Lcamm"]

Gears 2 is without a shadow of a doubt the best looking game on consoles until RE5 and KZ2

It looks 10x better then Movie gear solid 4 does in fact there are probably 20 console games that are better looking then mgs4 is

yeah, you keep telling yourself that...
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#49 Lcamm
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[QUOTE="Lcamm"]

Gears 2 is without a shadow of a doubt the best looking game on consoles until RE5 and KZ2

It looks 10x better then Movie gear solid 4 does in fact there are probably 20 console games that are better looking then mgs4 is

idontbeliveit
yeah, you keep telling yourself that...

I will keep telling myself the truth Its a fact buddy MGS4 was a garbage looking game with its crap textures, action figure looking character models and its bland environment MGS4 isnt even in the same ballpark as gears 2 and anyone who thinks otherwise is in serious denial including you
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#50 BobHipJames
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Gears 2 is without a shadow of a doubt the best looking game on consoles until RE5 and KZ2

It looks 10x better then Movie gear solid 4 does in fact there are probably 20 console games that are better looking then mgs4 is

Lcamm
Oh my God, your empty claims are seriously painful. I'm tired of watching you guys just type the same hyperbole about this game when I'm looking right at the damn screen and I have a functioning brain in my skull that tells me which ones are probably real and which ones aren't. That, and I've played the game in SD and HD. I don't believe you. If you want to say "OHMIGOD, IT LOOKS AWZUM ON MY 1080P ROXXORSOX 1100 HDMI QUAD TWENTY FOUR TV FROM SAMSUNG!" that's fine. I'm sure the game DOES look awzum. But even so, do NOT feed me the obvious hyperbole and falsehood that it looks as good as the first screen. Really? Explain jaggies. Explain them. Where did they go. Why are they in the other screens. Do your eyes have anti-aliasing? Well mine don't. Maybe I need an upgrade.