Get it though your thick skull, PS3 in the end has more power then the 360.

Indeed, but you didn't have to make a thread about it lol lemmings being themselves will still deny and damage control..

*goes to play motorstorm*

Doesn't matter if it is too difficult to program for.  Developers will never be able to use all that power.Tony_DiNozzo

Doesn't matter if it is too difficult to program for. Developers will never be able to use all that power.Tony_DiNozzo

Doesn't matter if it is too difficult to program for. Developers will never be able to use all that power.Tony_DiNozzo

Carmack and  Itagaki saids so. Nteks

That's great. It's unfortunate that 85% of the developers will never figure out how to tap that power within the PS3 lifespan. It's also unfortunate that the XBox 360 is outselling the PS3 by 2:1 and the Wii but 3:1. Who cares how powerful a system is if no one is buying it and all the exclusive games are being moved to other platforms? Where are the games? Now get that through your thick skull.

*This post has been ownaged approved by the lemmings of the world.* copyright 2007.

[QUOTE="Nteks"]Carmack and Itagaki saids so. blackace

That's great. It's unfortunate that 85% of the developers will never figure out how to tap that power within the PS3 lifespan. It's also unfortunate that the XBox 360 is outselling the PS3 by 2:1 and the Wii but 3:1. Who cares how powerful a system is if no one is buying it and all the exclusive games are being moved to other platforms? Where are the games? Now get that through your thick skull.

*This post has been ownaged approved by the lemmings of the world.* copyright 2007.

Why cows dont post all what carmack said?

So says John Carmack, the legendary programmer of the Doom and Quake series, in an intriguing interview with Buzzscope. Though Carmack expresses a "preference" for the Xbox 360's CPU design, he admits that the PS3 "will have a bit more peak power."

Sony fans shouldn't break out the champagne just yet, however, as Carmack notes that "it will be easier to exploit the available power on the 360."

So basically he said that the ps3 processor is a bit more powerfull than the xbox360 one, and we know that xbox360 GPU its a lot better than the RSX and the Cell processor's better than the x360 processor.
So we know that

Xenos>>>>>RSX
Cell>>>>>Xenon


TC i think u selfown yourself a little bit :P

*sniffs the air*

I smell damage control. 

[QUOTE="blackace"]

[QUOTE="Nteks"]Carmack and Itagaki saids so. Nteks

That's great. It's unfortunate that 85% of the developers will never figure out how to tap that power within the PS3 lifespan. It's also unfortunate that the XBox 360 is outselling the PS3 by 2:1 and the Wii but 3:1. Who cares how powerful a system is if no one is buying it and all the exclusive games are being moved to other platforms? Where are the games? Now get that through your thick skull.

*This post has been ownaged approved by the lemmings of the world.* copyright 2007.

Sorry bud 360 has a better GPU and CPU and RAM that makes sense for game development. Cell wasn't designed as a game processor Sony just wanted to see it used and get some $$$ back out of there R&D PS3 has a better chance of curing cancer then it does beating the 360. Get that through your thick skull Sucka!Nugtoka

Better gpu maybe.  Better cpu?  No way.  Cell is awesome.

[QUOTE="Tony_DiNozzo"]Doesn't matter if it is too difficult to program for. Developers will never be able to use all that power.Nteks

Absolutely right, but you try in vain, dear friend....even in using verbal blunt force trauma in order to try get this FACT through certain people's "thick skulls", the efforts are futile, lol. Sadly, that particular kind of fanboy, brand loyalty denial is beyond penetration by THE TRUTH. I would like to share an example in the form of a fable of of how often times truth finds us while we are the ones looking for it. But all too often, we are just too blind to see it....even when it is staring us right in the face, lol.  

One day The truth came knocking on the door of the blind little fanboy, and the fanboy said", "GO AWAY, I'M LOOKING FOR THE TRUTH!"....So good ole' truth just shrugged it's shoulders in confusion, and left the poor, blind little fanboy to continue evermore his futile search for false truth in all the wrong places.:lol:  

[QUOTE="Tony_DiNozzo"]Doesn't matter if it is too difficult to program for. Developers will never be able to use all that power.Nteks

Oh please, that's such a silly argument. Development difficulty and console power are in no way linked!

The PS3 is more powerful, but when games like Oblivion have to be delayed because porting is difficult and after the delay the version ends up looking the same as the 360 version you have to ask yourself whether the "untapped powa!" is ever going to show.

As for the 360s power being laid bare, you don't think the graphics of 360 games will improve? 

[QUOTE="Tony_DiNozzo"]Doesn't matter if it is too difficult to program for. Developers will never be able to use all that power.Nteks

[QUOTE="Nteks"][QUOTE="Tony_DiNozzo"]Doesn't matter if it is too difficult to program for. Developers will never be able to use all that power.Raidea

Oh please, that's such a silly argument. Development difficulty and console power are in no way linked!

The PS3 is more powerful, but when games like Oblivion have to be delayed because porting is difficult and after the delay the version ends up looking the same as the 360 version you have to ask yourself whether the "untapped powa!" is ever going to show.

As for the 360s power being laid bare, you don't think the graphics of 360 games will improve? 

[QUOTE="Nteks"][QUOTE="Tony_DiNozzo"]Doesn't matter if it is too difficult to program for. Developers will never be able to use all that power.Poppa_pain

Nice having a thick Skull....Good for nutting people like you ;)

360s CPU is more efficient and easier to develop for. The GPU is simply more powerful. Therefore 360 architecture > PS3 architecture.Spartan070

just stop now lol

Theoretically, probably. But in practice? Who knows?

Also can you find a developer that says the PS3 is more powerful, after it's release? 

[QUOTE="Spartan070"]360s CPU is more efficient and easier to develop for. The GPU is simply more powerful. Therefore 360 architecture > PS3 architecture.SuperKnightX

just stop now lol

Theoretically, probably. But in practice? Who knows?

 

Also can you find a developer that says the PS3 is more powerful, after it's release? 

thirstychainsaw

Doesn't matter if it is too difficult to program for. Developers will never be able to use all that power.Tony_DiNozzo

r[QUOTE="thirstychainsaw"]

Theoretically, probably. But in practice? Who knows?

 

Also can you find a developer that says the PS3 is more powerful, after it's release?

SuperKnightX

Can you?

[QUOTE="SuperKnightX"]r[QUOTE="thirstychainsaw"]

Theoretically, probably. But in practice? Who knows?

 

Also can you find a developer that says the PS3 is more powerful, after it's release?

thirstychainsaw

Can you?

Carmack and Itagaki saids so. Nteks

Having power and knowing how to use it are two diffrent things = Raoh from fist of the northstar

computational  power yes but graphical NO!!!daveg1

What does more power equate to?

Yeah, that's really helping Sony put games on the shelf.heretrix

you crabs and your craziness :P

remember, the graphics on the 360 are so good that sony used a pic from pgr3 to promote GT:HD

it should be morew powerful with the freakin dumb price tag, and it has no good games and when it DOES actually get some good ones 360 will be getting MORE (note the more, not just STARTING to get good games) and will still be in the lead.. I saw a post one time for someone who said he had gotten a PS3 and since it had no good games he was lookin for good ps2 games.. lol thats pitiful. having to play last gen games cause ur console doesnt have any good ones this gen. gamerguy31315

[QUOTE="Tony_DiNozzo"]Doesn't matter if it is too difficult to program for. Developers will never be able to use all that power.Nteks

[QUOTE="Radeon_X1950XTX"]cell>xenon xenos>rsx-proven PS3 has 256mb System ram, and 256 graphics ram, this will be the bottleneck, ps3 has a FIXED memory archetechure,(its faster but limited) RSX can write on System ram, but Cell cannot write on RSX therfore limited,(thats why gears cannot run on pos3) 360 has slower ram, but flexible, it can go either way, as long as it doesnt exeed 512, mb ram, +(10 mb EDRAM) 360 and ps3 power will all come down to ram, and 360 is supirior in that area*especailly in the long run*SuperKnightX

Self-ownage complete dude, you are done.

[QUOTE="SuperKnightX"]

[QUOTE="Radeon_X1950XTX"]cell>xenon xenos>rsx-proven PS3 has 256mb System ram, and 256 graphics ram, this will be the bottleneck, ps3 has a FIXED memory archetechure,(its faster but limited) RSX can write on System ram, but Cell cannot write on RSX therfore limited,(thats why gears cannot run on pos3) 360 has slower ram, but flexible, it can go either way, as long as it doesnt exeed 512, mb ram, +(10 mb EDRAM) 360 and ps3 power will all come down to ram, and 360 is supirior in that area*especailly in the long run*Heith

Self-ownage complete dude, you are done.

and with games like Lair with 100s of dragons on screen, draw distances of miles and running at 1080p. Why would any idiot seriously belive GeOW couldn't run on PS3 lol and then add the fact that UT3 is coming to both consoles and its more advanced than GeOW, then you see my point..

[QUOTE="daveg1"]computational  power yes but graphical NO!!!SuperKnightX

What does more power equate to?

[QUOTE="Radeon_X1950XTX"]cell>xenon xenos>rsx-proven PS3 has 256mb System ram, and 256 graphics ram, this will be the bottleneck, ps3 has a FIXED memory archetechure,(its faster but limited) RSX can write on System ram, but Cell cannot write on RSX therfore limited,(thats why gears cannot run on pos3) 360 has slower ram, but flexible, it can go either way, as long as it doesnt exeed 512, mb ram, +(10 mb EDRAM) 360 and ps3 power will all come down to ram, and 360 is supirior in that area*especailly in the long run*SuperKnightX

Self-ownage complete dude, you are done.