Ghost Recon: Future Soldier 7.5'd

Well, it's a modern shooter who's publisher didn't pay off to get a high review score like BF3 and CoD...thus the 7.5.

We all after remember though, that a 7.5 is a GOOD game, but because of the ridiculous and abitrary number score, along with the stupidity of system wars, anything under a 9 is a bad game.

I'm really liking the look of the multiplayer. I just found out about the game again like 4 days ago and have been craving it ever since.

You're lucky to get that much - its not a ghost recon game. Its just a shoot 'em up, aping Call of Duty. The graphics looked terrible too. Horribly plastic faces.

biggest_loser

That was my impression originally. But after seeing some more videos, it looks a lot more tactical than before. Of course not Advanced Warfighter, but a more streamlined tactical. All online modes are objective based as well which is a plus

[QUOTE="biggest_loser"]

You're lucky to get that much - its not a ghost recon game. Its just a shoot 'em up, aping Call of Duty. The graphics looked terrible too. Horribly plastic faces.

OB-47

That was my impression originally. But after seeing some more videos, it looks a lot more tactical than before. Of course not Advanced Warfighter, but a more streamlined tactical. All online modes are objective based as well which is a plus

And it's a shame that people are writing the game off as a CoD clone when it absolutely is not. In fact, the campaign has more in common with a stealth game than an arcade shooter, considering that some missions will auto-fail if your team is even detected. It's more about taking out the bad guys methodically rather than running around like a mad man. The synchronized takedowns themselves are very satisfying.

It saddens me how different the game is from the original E3 demo. That version looked absolutely fantastic!

Evz0rz

Here's the double standard; this game is a mediocre 'yet another military shooter' game, right? He even starts off the video review with a sarcastic action move voice over and laments the number of military shooters.

Yet... why is this never applied to COD? Every release is reviewed AAA across the board, even the last one was AA at least despite being the most cookie cutter of th bunch. Video game journalism really is a joke.

the new 8.5 strikes again.

Here's the double standard; this game is a mediocre 'yet another military shooter' game, right? He even starts off the video review with a sarcastic action move voice over and laments the number of military shooters.

Yet... why is this never applied to COD? Every release is reviewed AAA across the board, even the last one was AA at least despite being the most cookie cutter of th bunch. Video game journalism really is a joke.

Ninja-Hippo

Can't say I'm surprised after watching the Beta.

Is it still "better with Kinect?"

Put 1001 features in the game and don't even get the core gameplay right.

Dumbasses

Is it still "better with Kinect?"

Put 1001 features in the game and don't even get the core gameplay right.

Dumbasses

ZombieKiller7

Can't say I'm surprised after watching the Beta.

SpinoRaptor24

Anyone who compares Ghost Recon with Call of Duty clearly needs their head examined. They're not even in the same ballpark.Stevo_the_gamer

It's the same type people who call Splinter Cell: Conviction an action game rather than stealth. Which is extremly stupid.

If it's name isn't BF3, Crysis, or Vanquish, it sucks. 7.5 = too high.

Bottom line is it good enough to buy?MOM-D

I'd say so.

It's got a pretty decent campaign, that's quite different from the CoD like shooter campaigns of today

It includes 4 player co-op campaign, great fun it seems

A horde like mode called Guerrilla with co-op.

And as always the great multiplayer that GR games have.

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OB-47

That was my impression originally. But after seeing some more videos, it looks a lot more tactical than before. Of course not Advanced Warfighter, but a more streamlined tactical. All online modes are objective based as well which is a plus

And it's a shame that people are writing the game off as a CoD clone when it absolutely is not. In fact, the campaign has more in common with a stealth game than an arcade shooter, considering that some missions will auto-fail if your team is even detected. It's more about taking out the bad guys methodically rather than running around like a mad man. The synchronized takedowns themselves are very satisfying.

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[QUOTE="VoodooHak"]

That was my impression originally. But after seeing some more videos, it looks a lot more tactical than before. Of course not Advanced Warfighter, but a more streamlined tactical. All online modes are objective based as well which is a plus

biggest_loser

And it's a shame that people are writing the game off as a CoD clone when it absolutely is not. In fact, the campaign has more in common with a stealth game than an arcade shooter, considering that some missions will auto-fail if your team is even detected. It's more about taking out the bad guys methodically rather than running around like a mad man. The synchronized takedowns themselves are very satisfying.

And I understand it's alot less tactical than before, but it's still nothing like CoD.

In fact, it's funny, because you call us drones, yet you sound alot like everyone calling this CoD

Here's the double standard; this game is a mediocre 'yet another military shooter' game, right? He even starts off the video review with a sarcastic action move voice over and laments the number of military shooters.

Yet... why is this never applied to COD? Every release is reviewed AAA across the board, even the last one was AA at least despite being the most cookie cutter of th bunch. Video game journalism really is a joke.

Ninja-Hippo

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]

Here's the double standard; this game is a mediocre 'yet another military shooter' game, right? He even starts off the video review with a sarcastic action move voice over and laments the number of military shooters.

Yet... why is this never applied to COD? Every release is reviewed AAA across the board, even the last one was AA at least despite being the most cookie cutter of th bunch. Video game journalism really is a joke.

mitu123

It's mostly because Call of Duty is the industry standard for modern military shooters. It was the one that started all of this modern FPS craze. Anyway, I didn't like the review too much. It didn't detail enough of the multiplayer, which is bogus, because it seems pretty good

Anyone who compares Ghost Recon with Call of Duty clearly needs their head examined. They're not even in the same ballpark.Stevo_the_gamer

I usually like your posts dude but saying people who dont share the same opinion as you about the new Ghost Recon and "need to have their head examined" is a bit much.

If you played the old Ghost Recon you would see its not more like COD then he name in its title.. GHOST RECON.

I have played the beta on 360 and the full gme on 360 and its dissapointing as a fan of Ghost Recon1 and even somewhat GRAW1/2.

While not beign identical to COD its not much at all like old Ghost Recon games and has more in common with COD then it does Ghost Recon1. Why even name it Ghsot Recon if you are going to make a totally different style game then what the previous games have been?

I don't like my favorite series getting basterdized personally and this is what this game is. Fun with a few friends for a few hours, but this is NOT a Ghost Recon type game.

Just because I liked Risen 1, Risen2 and Alpha Protocol doesnt mean I will say everyone who dissagrees with my opinion needs their head examined.

I wanted to like this game but its dissapointing as hell. Gamespot giving this game a 7.5/10 is pretty resonable, I would give it a 7 personally. Solid game but not what I was hoping for personally.

Its got ALOT mroe teamwork then COD but still when I play this game is reminds me of COD WAY more then a Ghost Recon.

Glad you are enjoying the game though bud, despite the lower then expected score on gamespot. In the end all that matters is what YOU think of the game and no one else, hell some of my fav games this gen scored under 9 ( Too Human, Alpha Protocol and Risen1/2). Low scores did not effect me from having a grand time on those games. Have fun!

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[QUOTE="OB-47"]

And it's a shame that people are writing the game off as a CoD clone when it absolutely is not. In fact, the campaign has more in common with a stealth game than an arcade shooter, considering that some missions will auto-fail if your team is even detected. It's more about taking out the bad guys methodically rather than running around like a mad man. The synchronized takedowns themselves are very satisfying.

OB-47

And I understand it's alot less tactical than before, but it's still nothing like CoD.

In fact, it's funny, because you call us drones, yet you sound alot like everyone calling this CoD

I usually like your posts dude but saying people who dont share the same opinion as you about the new Ghost Recon and "need to have their head examined" is a bit much. If you played the old Ghost Recon you would see its not more like COD then he name in its title.. GHOST RECON. I have played the beta on 360 and the full gme on 360 and its dissapointing as a fan of Ghost Recon1 and even somewhat GRAW1/2.

While not beign identical to COD its not much at all like old Ghost Recon games and has more in common with COD then it does Ghost Recon1. Why even name it Ghsot Recon if you are going to make a totally different style game then what the previous games have been? I don't like my favorite series getting basterdized personally and this is what this game is. Fun with a few friends for a few hours, but this is NOT a Ghost Recon type game.

Just because I liked Risen 1, Risen2 and Alpha Protocol doesnt mean I will say everyone who dissagrees with my opinion needs their head examined. I wanted to like this game but its dissapointing as hell. Gamespot giving this game a 7.5/10 is pretty resonable, I would give it a 7 personally. Solid game but not what I was hoping for personally. Its got ALOT mroe teamwork then COD but still when I play this game is reminds me of COD WAY more then a Ghost Recon.

Glad you are enjoying the game though bud, despite the lower then expected score on gamespot. In the end all that matters is what YOU think of the game and no one else, hell some of my fav games this gen scored under 9 ( Too Human, Alpha Protocol and Risen1/2). Low scores did not effect me from having a grand time on those games. Have fun!

kozzy1234

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Anyone who compares Ghost Recon with Call of Duty clearly needs their head examined. They're not even in the same ballpark.OB-47

It's the same type people who call Splinter Cell: Conviction an action game rather than stealth. Which is extremly stupid.

[QUOTE="OB-47"]

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Anyone who compares Ghost Recon with Call of Duty clearly needs their head examined. They're not even in the same ballpark.Ninja-Hippo

It's the same type people who call Splinter Cell: Conviction an action game rather than stealth. Which is extremly stupid.

Why can't they try new stuff? The stealth is Conviction was more aggresive but it was still a stealth game. Stealth action maybe, but still stealth nonetheless.

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Can't say I'm surprised after watching the Beta.

ultraking

It's not, but it's not exactly something to write home about either. Perhaps if the game had came out a few years ago I might have bought it, but I really don't feel like playing any 3rd person cover-based military shooters.

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It's the same type people who call Splinter Cell: Conviction an action game rather than stealth. Which is extremly stupid.

OB-47

Why can't they try new stuff? The stealth is Conviction was more aggresive but it was still a stealth game. Stealth action maybe, but still stealth nonetheless.

I never quite understood the mentality that if-it's-not-like-the-original-then-it's-no-good. Clinging to a series's origins is fine.... up until it blinds someone to what's good about the more recent entries to the series.

Conviction is not the original Splinter Cell... why on Earth would someone expect it to be? Same with Rainbow Six. Same with Ghost Recon. It's not 2001 anymore. Is it because GR doesn't subscribe to the same set-in-stone notion of "tactical" etched into their brains? Whatever the case, I don't see those people ever being satisfied.

Me, I prefer to be a glass half full type of guy.

Is Future Soldier more action oriented? Sure. Does that make it any less enjoyable in its own right? No. The escort sequences, for example, are totally on rails, but you know what.... I think it's executed very well. Who cares if that's not strictly tactical? It's fun. On the tactical side (and yes, there is tactical side), the game's pacing stays deliberate and slow-paced, encouraging stealth and healthy doses of observe/plan/execute through a majority of the campaign. In fact, half the levels will fail you if your team is detected at all.

Synchronized, silent kills are a major feature and again, executed very well. It's an evolution of the mark and execute mechanics we've seen in Rainbow Six Vegas and Splinter Cell Conviction that totally works for Future Soldier.

No, it does not allow me to micromanage multiple fire teams. If Ubisoft/Red Storm ever brought that back, I'd play it. But with Future Soldier, I don't miss it at all.

They have manageed to weave the action movie bits into the tactical bits in a smoothe manner that makes sense. No, it's not like the original GR, and I never ever expected it to be, so I won't hold that against Future Soldier. I think the game is enjoyable on its own.

Well said. It looks to me like GR is a good blend of action and tactical action that makes a smooth experience. I loved AW 1 and 2, but at times they felt a bit archaic with all the commands and stuff. Now, the AI is competent enough to do stuff themselves, and 4 player co-op seems great.

With Conviction and now Future Soldier, why can't we have modern interpretations of old franchises? It's not as if Ubisoft has butchered what these series are about, but rather try new things with them. Conviction was about aggressive stealth, not just lingering in the shadows and doing the same thing stealth games have been doing for ages. But die hard old fans always cry out.

maybe i get during steam sale.. not now

I hope the next Rainbow Six game does better.

Edge gave it a great review

Quite excited to start playing this tomorrow.

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Edge gave it a great review

Quite excited to start playing this tomorrow.

sts106mat

What platform have you got it on? If Ps3, let's play toghther :D

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="OB-47"]

It's the same type people who call Splinter Cell: Conviction an action game rather than stealth. Which is extremly stupid.

OB-47

Why can't they try new stuff? The stealth is Conviction was more aggresive but it was still a stealth game. Stealth action maybe, but still stealth nonetheless.

Here's the double standard; this game is a mediocre 'yet another military shooter' game, right? He even starts off the video review with a sarcastic action move voice over and laments the number of military shooters.

Yet... why is this never applied to COD? Every release is reviewed AAA across the board, even the last one was AA at least despite being the most cookie cutter of th bunch. Video game journalism really is a joke.

Ninja-Hippo

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="OB-47"]

It's the same type people who call Splinter Cell: Conviction an action game rather than stealth. Which is extremly stupid.

OB-47

Why can't they try new stuff? The stealth is Conviction was more aggresive but it was still a stealth game. Stealth action maybe, but still stealth nonetheless.

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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"] No, that's dead-on accurate. It's about as stealthy as Serious Sam. They butchered that series with that turd of a game. Ninja-Hippo

Why can't they try new stuff? The stealth is Conviction was more aggresive but it was still a stealth game. Stealth action maybe, but still stealth nonetheless.

See highlighted above.

Isn't that all that matters?

To be fair, nothing is as good as Chaos Theory.