Ghostbusters Wii Gamespot Review: 8/10

[QUOTE="savebattery"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]This thread is disappointing with the lack of systemwars esque comments. Time to spice it up. The only reason it scored higher was because of lower standards, obviously.Stevo_the_gamer

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="savebattery"] Obviously. Because the Wii is so casual that its fans don't know how to spot a good game. Or something.surrealnumber5

Wii is the easiest system to bash, what's going on fanboys of SW? Why have you given up? :PStevo_the_gamer

So this is what happens when a dev actually cares enough to do a multiplat on the Wii that isn't a PS2 port or a downgraded HD port? I hope this continues.


This however won't change my mind of what version I will get (if I will get any of them) as I like the art-direction on the HD consoles more.

lems, cows, hermits, utterly owned. Looks like devs are taking wii seriously now, the quality proves it.rgame1

Is that really necessary?

It's not like this game will make up for all the other inferior Wii ports over the years.

[QUOTE="Ghoul_et_OMC"]

PS/360 COD WaW has the same core as the Wii version.....Wii's lower standards should've been confirmed when that happened.

nintendo-4life

Wii games are actually rated on a different standard than the PS3 and 360. Much like how PC, DS and PSP games have different standards.

We Rate Games According to the Current Standards of Their Platforms and Genres

Every gaming platform is different, especially in terms of its technical features. However, we believe high-quality gaming experiences are possible on all the gaming platforms that we cover. So we review games against the standards of their respective platforms by implicitly comparing them to other games on that same platform and, to a lesser extent, to other games in that genre. As a result, our ratings of games on different platforms are not intended to be directly compared to one another. However, relative comparisons do apply, so a game that scores poorly is a poor game by any standards, while a game that scores extremely high is an outstanding game by any standards.

LINK

I am not in any way trying to imply that this version scored higher because it was only on the Wii though.

You'd have to be nuts to buy Ghostbusters, I mean, seriously, it's for sheer novelty not a seriously well made game

You'd have to be nuts to buy Ghostbusters, I mean, seriously, it's for sheer novelty not a seriously well made game

p2250

Really?

A 7.5 or 8.0 isn't good enough for you?

Wii games are actually rated on a different standard than the PS3 and 360. Much like how PC, DS and PSP games have different standards.

We Rate Games According to the Current Standards of Their Platforms and Genres

Every gaming platform is different, especially in terms of its technical features. However, we believe high-quality gaming experiences are possible on all the gaming platforms that we cover. So we review games against the standards of their respective platforms by implicitly comparing them to other games on that same platform and, to a lesser extent, to other games in that genre. As a result, our ratings of games on different platforms are not intended to be directly compared to one another. However, relative comparisons do apply, so a game that scores poorly is a poor game by any standards, while a game that scores extremely high is an outstanding game by any standards.

LINK

I am not in any way trying to imply that this version scored higher because it was only on the Wii though.

JLF1

And there's also this:

Each game we review exists in a competitive environment. That is, a game always has direct or indirect competition from other, possibly very similar games, which causes the game in question to be held to a higher standard. In other words, while technical merits are generally particular to a specific gaming platform, we believe that certain collective, universal standards also exist.GameSpot editors are expected to be familiar with current games on all platforms, in order to maintain an acute sense of global standards for gaming at all times.

[QUOTE="p2250"]

You'd have to be nuts to buy Ghostbusters, I mean, seriously, it's for sheer novelty not a seriously well made game

JLF1

Really?

A 7.5 or 8.0 isn't good enough for you?

[QUOTE="JLF1"]Wii games are actually rated on a different standard than the PS3 and 360. Much like how PC, DS and PSP games have different standards.

We Rate Games According to the Current Standards of Their Platforms and Genres

Every gaming platform is different, especially in terms of its technical features. However, we believe high-quality gaming experiences are possible on all the gaming platforms that we cover. So we review games against the standards of their respective platforms by implicitly comparing them to other games on that same platform and, to a lesser extent, to other games in that genre. As a result, our ratings of games on different platforms are not intended to be directly compared to one another. However, relative comparisons do apply, so a game that scores poorly is a poor game by any standards, while a game that scores extremely high is an outstanding game by any standards.

LINK

I am not in any way trying to imply that this version scored higher because it was only on the Wii though.

IronBass

And there's also this:

Each game we review exists in a competitive environment. That is, a game always has direct or indirect competition from other, possibly very similar games, which causes the game in question to be held to a higher standard. In other words, while technical merits are generally particular to a specific gaming platform, we believe that certain collective, universal standards also exist.GameSpot editors are expected to be familiar with current games on all platforms, in order to maintain an acute sense of global standards for gaming at all times.

[QUOTE="JLF1"]

[QUOTE="p2250"]

You'd have to be nuts to buy Ghostbusters, I mean, seriously, it's for sheer novelty not a seriously well made game

p2250

Really?

A 7.5 or 8.0 isn't good enough for you?

Yes there is also that but that doesn't make the standards for the different systems go away. JLF1

a DS game can score a 9.8, BUT THATS A 9.8 COMPARED TO OTHER DS GAMES!! which are obviously scored on lower expectations than AAA PC 360 or PS3 games, and yes i believe its the same for the wii. Just because the wii isnt in the same league as the real systems doesnt mean they should be cruel and give even its best games a 4.5 it would just be mean seeing as it cant live up to the great standards of its competition. And on the same idea the little kids and grandparents here that are wii supporters shouldnt think that a game on there favorite toy that scores an 8.0 is anywhere near the quality of an 8.0 on a real system.

a DS game can score a 9.8, BUT THATS A 9.8 COMPARED TO OTHER DS GAMES!! which are obviously scored on lower expectations than AAA PC 360 or PS3 games, and yes i believe its the same for the wii. Just because the wii isnt in the same league as the real systems doesnt mean they should be cruel and give even its best games a 4.5 it would just be mean seeing as it cant live up to the great standards of its competition. And on the same idea the little kids and grandparents here that are wii supporters shouldnt think that a game on there favorite toy that scores an 8.0 is anywhere near the quality of an 8.0 on a real system.

CHRION987

A good game is a good game, regardless of what system/handheld its on. Do you think mario galaxy would have been destroyed had it been on the PS3/360?

a DS game can score a 9.8, BUT THATS A 9.8 COMPARED TO OTHER DS GAMES!! which are obviously scored on lower expectations than AAA PC 360 or PS3 games, and yes i believe its the same for the wii. Just because the wii isnt in the same league as the real systems doesnt mean they should be cruel and give even its best games a 4.5 it would just be mean seeing as it cant live up to the great standards of its competition. And on the same idea the little kids and grandparents here that are wii supporters shouldnt think that a game on there favorite toy that scores an 8.0 is anywhere near the quality of an 8.0 on a real system.

CHRION987

[QUOTE="rgame1"]lems, cows, hermits, utterly owned. Looks like devs are taking wii seriously now, the quality proves it.JLF1

Is that really necessary?

It's not like this game will make up for all the other inferior Wii ports over the years.

[QUOTE="JLF1"]

[QUOTE="rgame1"]lems, cows, hermits, utterly owned. Looks like devs are taking wii seriously now, the quality proves it.rgame1

Is that really necessary?

It's not like this game will make up for all the other inferior Wii ports over the years.

That is IF third party devs starts caring about Wii ports like the GB devs did. Don't count on that to happen anytime soon.

And 8.0 is not a huge difference from 7.5.

[QUOTE="IronBass"]

[QUOTE="JLF1"]Wii games are actually rated on a different standard than the PS3 and 360. Much like how PC, DS and PSP games have different standards.

We Rate Games According to the Current Standards of Their Platforms and Genres

Every gaming platform is different, especially in terms of its technical features. However, we believe high-quality gaming experiences are possible on all the gaming platforms that we cover. So we review games against the standards of their respective platforms by implicitly comparing them to other games on that same platform and, to a lesser extent, to other games in that genre. As a result, our ratings of games on different platforms are not intended to be directly compared to one another. However, relative comparisons do apply, so a game that scores poorly is a poor game by any standards, while a game that scores extremely high is an outstanding game by any standards.

LINK

I am not in any way trying to imply that this version scored higher because it was only on the Wii though.

JLF1

And there's also this:

Each game we review exists in a competitive environment. That is, a game always has direct or indirect competition from other, possibly very similar games, which causes the game in question to be held to a higher standard. In other words, while technical merits are generally particular to a specific gaming platform, we believe that certain collective, universal standards also exist.GameSpot editors are expected to be familiar with current games on all platforms, in order to maintain an acute sense of global standards for gaming at all times.

[QUOTE="rgame1"]

[QUOTE="JLF1"]

Is that really necessary?

It's not like this game will make up for all the other inferior Wii ports over the years.

JLF1

That is IF third party devs starts caring about Wii ports like the GB devs did. Don't count on that to happen anytime soon.

And 8.0 is not a huge difference from 7.5.

his proves they already are, wtf?

rgame1

You can wtf me all you like but ONE game does not change anything.

[QUOTE="JLF1"]

Yes there is also that but that doesn't make the standards for the different systems go away. Universal standards in quality is not the same as technical standards on the respective systems. A AAA DS is just as good as a AAA PC game but if the DS game was on the PC it would have gotten a much lower score (as a full retail $50 PC game that is, not a $10 DLC game on steam). Price also effect the standards.

If Wii games was rated on PS3 and 360 standards they would get slammed because of the lesser graphics and very often less then stellar online. Much like how PS3 and 360 would get slammed if they were compared by PC standards. This is why PC games can often get lower scores even if the PC version was better.

To think that the standards on the respective systems don't have an effect on the review is just as stupid as to think a 7.5 PS3 game is better than a 8.0 Wii game because the PS3 have higher standards.

The Wii Ghostbusters game is a better (even if it is by a small margin) game than the PS3 and 360 game but it is also rated on a different standard.

rgame1

your not making any sense are you?

JLF1

a lot of your post doesn't make sense. if each platform is judged by the standard of only the other games on the platform only then the orange box and fallout 3 would get higher scores because multiplats are expected to be crap on the system

never mind the fact that galaxy was goty 2007 above ANY PS3/360 game.

at the end of the day the wii version got a higer score because the reviewer thought it was better, he didn't think much of the visuals (read the review) regardless of of technical limitations.

but he enjoyed it more and that's why it's the superior version

[QUOTE="CHRION987"]

a DS game can score a 9.8, BUT THATS A 9.8 COMPARED TO OTHER DS GAMES!! which are obviously scored on lower expectations than AAA PC 360 or PS3 games, and yes i believe its the same for the wii. Just because the wii isnt in the same league as the real systems doesnt mean they should be cruel and give even its best games a 4.5 it would just be mean seeing as it cant live up to the great standards of its competition. And on the same idea the little kids and grandparents here that are wii supporters shouldnt think that a game on there favorite toy that scores an 8.0 is anywhere near the quality of an 8.0 on a real system.

shutdown_202

A good game is a good game, regardless of what system/handheld its on. Do you think mario galaxy would have been destroyed had it been on the PS3/360?

there are a few wii games, mario galaxy, metroid, that I would play, even DS games, fire emblem, but its a very very small list, and an 8.0 ghostbusters on the wii is still going to be half the game an 8.0 ghostbusters will be on the 360.

there are a few wii games, mario galaxy, metroid, that I would play, even DS games, fire emblem, but its a very very small list, and an 8.0 ghostbusters on the wii is still going to be half the game an 8.0 ghostbusters will be on the 360.

CHRION987

what the hell are you talking about?

you cant just pick and choose which games shoulld be judged by different standards, either they all are or none of them are, and when it comes to gameplay all of them are

that's why tiger woods and pro evo got a better score on the wii, same goes for ghostbusters.

the reviewer specifically pointed how mcuh fun the wii version was

[QUOTE="JLF1"] your not making any sense are you?

hy4k

a lot of your post doesn't make sense. if each platform is judged by the standard of only the other games on the platform only then the orange box and fallout 3 would get higher scores because multiplats are expected to be crap on the system

never mind the fact that galaxy was goty 2007 above ANY PS3/360 game.

at the end of the day the wii version got a higer score because the reviewer thought it was better, he didn't think much of the visuals (read the review) regardless of of technical limitations.

but he enjoyed it more and that's why it's the superior version

Read my post again please. I never claimed any of that. I just repeated what GS's review guide states and nothing more. The systems are rated on their different standards and that is a fact.

JLF1

yes, when it comes to the constraints of the platform. so in terms of graphics ps3 games ahave higher standards than wii games and pc games have higher standards than ps3 games. gameplay is not one of these constraints

in this case the reviewer specifically pointed out his distaste for the wii version's visuals (regardless of graphical constraints) so the argument holds even less water

What system are you reffering to when you said "most most multiplats are expected to be crap on the system"? If you are talking about the PS3 then thereason as to why Fallout 3 and The Orange box scored lower is because they had flaws the other versions didn't and thus got a lower score.JLF1

and ghostbusters on wii scored higher on wii because it was the preffered version, same will be true of pro evo and tiger woods

What has SMG winning GOTY to do with anything I said?

JLF1

because again, they preferred it any other game on any other platform in 200

it would have got a 4.5 on the ps3 tho rite?

That's strange. This doesn't make up for all the crappy ports Wii gets, see Dead Space Extraction for example. Basically, Ghostbusters isn't anything to claim ownage on.

This doesn't make up for all the crappy ports Wii gets, see Dead Space Extraction for example.dylanmcc

Another solid game on the Wii that Wii owners won't buy cause it doesn't have Wii Fit in the title?! Seriously, it will sell more on the 360 and PS3 and then maybe Wii, as sales of Madworld and such show how "hardcore" Wii owners can be.

[QUOTE="dylanmcc"]This doesn't make up for all the crappy ports Wii gets, see Dead Space Extraction for example.IronBass

yes, when it comes to the constraints of the platform. so in terms of graphics ps3 games ahave higher standards than wii games and pc games have higher standards than ps3 games. gameplay is not one of these constraints

in this case the reviewer specifically pointed out his distaste for the wii version's visuals (regardless of graphical constraints) so the argument holds even less water

and ghostbusters on wii scored higher on wii because it was the preffered version, same will be true of pro evo and tiger woods

because again, they preferred it any other game on any other platform in 200

it would have got a 4.5 on the ps3 tho rite?

hy4k

[QUOTE="CHRION987"]

there are a few wii games, mario galaxy, metroid, that I would play, even DS games, fire emblem, but its a very very small list, and an 8.0 ghostbusters on the wii is still going to be half the game an 8.0 ghostbusters will be on the 360.

hy4k

what the hell are you talking about?

you cant just pick and choose which games shoulld be judged by different standards, either they all are or none of them are, and when it comes to gameplay all of them are

that's why tiger woods and pro evo got a better score on the wii, same goes for ghostbusters.

the reviewer specifically pointed how mcuh fun the wii version was

I still love great games, DS games can be entertaining, but i understand that a 10 on the ds isnt going to have anywhere near the depth, graphics, controls, or detail that a 10 on the 360 or ps3 would have. mari galaxy would be better on the 360, much better in fact it could look really amazing in comparison. same thing with metroid, it would be twice the game if it was on the ps3, but its such a good game that id still play it on a weaksauce system.

[QUOTE="JLF1"]

[QUOTE="p2250"]

You'd have to be nuts to buy Ghostbusters, I mean, seriously, it's for sheer novelty not a seriously well made game

p2250

Really?

A 7.5 or 8.0 isn't good enough for you?

No replay value? The 360/PS3 versions has multiplayer, and the Wii version has co-op multiplayer. There are some replay value.

it would be twice the game if it was on the ps3 CHRION987

meh ign 7.8 ill take the 360 version with much better graphics and MP

I just glanced at the review, I hate it when they make a great game for the Wii and the negetive is always "its too short". I really want them to make it with the games as well.

They're so close, its like Arsenal FC, so close but not quite;).

Is it like with other short games, say if you play at a higher difficulty, it doesn't feel so short? (gears, Halo 3 and others for example).

[QUOTE="hy4k"]

[QUOTE="CHRION987"]

there are a few wii games, mario galaxy, metroid, that I would play, even DS games, fire emblem, but its a very very small list, and an 8.0 ghostbusters on the wii is still going to be half the game an 8.0 ghostbusters will be on the 360.

what the hell are you talking about?

you cant just pick and choose which games shoulld be judged by different standards, either they all are or none of them are, and when it comes to gameplay all of them are

that's why tiger woods and pro evo got a better score on the wii, same goes for ghostbusters.

the reviewer specifically pointed how mcuh fun the wii version was

I still love great games, DS games can be entertaining, but i understand that a 10 on the ds isnt going to have anywhere near the depth, graphics, controls, or detail that a 10 on the 360 or ps3 would have. mari galaxy would be better on the 360, much better in fact it could look really amazing in comparison. same thing with metroid, it would be twice the game if it was on the ps3, but its such a good game that id still play it on a weaksauce system.

a 10 on the ds isnt going to have anywhere near the depth, graphics, controls, or detail that a 10 on the 360 or ps3 would haveCHRION987

This is why you don't trust what people write. I said I was biased when talking about my writing--that is, I think I am a good writer, so I am going to defend my work. It had nothing to do with games or game systems. Lordy lordy how you guys take one word and turn in into complete falsehoods! Tinfoil hats and made up conspiracies FTW ;)

I deliberately avoided direct comparisons as often as I could, because I don't do anyone any favors when I do that. The Wii version gets reviewed on its own merits. They are different games, on different systems. The story follows the same path, and 3/4 of the dialogue if not more is the same. However, this is not even close to a port. Some of the environments are the same, but they are designed completely differently, with some similarities like the Stay Puft fights, which look sort of the same but play differently.

If you ARE looking for things to directly compare, here is my take on why the Wii version is better:

1: The bosses are better. They are just as easy, but they are more creative and use the different weapons in more clever ways. The bosses on the 360/PS3 are cool, but they really don't vary much in terms of how you defeat them. The Wii version requires you to use more clever tactics.

2: The puzzles are much better. Almost every puzzle on 360/Wii require you to use the slime tether, and none of them require the stasis stream, which is a missed opportunity. On the Wii, the puzzles are better, and require you to make use of every proton pack mode.

3: The pace is better. There is less down time while you wait for dialog to trigger, and you don't spend nearly as much time reviving teammates or waiting for them to revive you. The downside is that the game is easier. The upside is that you get to spend more time playing, and less time waiting.

3: The controls add to the experience. The game isn't no No More Heroes, but the secret of the controls' success is similar: the game mixes regular old buttons with motion controls in a really pleasant and appealing way. You get to slam the ghosts around, but it isn't a wagglefest.

The other side:

1. No online multiplayer on the Wii. The co-op is cool, but the online play on PS3 and 360 is really really good.

2. It's shorter. But some of this has to do with the fact that there is less padding. Because it keeps you moving, it makes for a fresher experience, but it ends sooner, which sucks.

3. The art style isn't for everyone. I am not a big fan of the character models (especially Dan Aykroyd, who doesn't really look right), but the package comes together well visually, so it's easy to overlook it.

So if you needed something more comparative, those are a few thoughts to mull over. I can't wait to see the version that appears in another thread tomorrow. It's like that old game from grade school, where the original statement you whipser to the next person is something completely different by the time it reaches the last person.

Kevin-V