G.I. Opens up about the "controversy" surrounding L4D2......

Sorry if old.

there was a letter sent in concerning the left for dead situation. ill post the question and response.....

Concerned reader: "After the release of Left 4 Dead, Valve promised a steady release of new downloadable content for the game, much like they did for Team Fortress 2. However it hasnt even been a year since the release of Left 4 Dead and theyre already announcing a sequel? Weve hardly seen any of this promised DLC, so whats with the new full-priced game? Left 4 Dead 2 could easily be released as an expansin=on pack to the original. Its just a few changes to the director and some now weapons and zombies, so theres really no other reason that the new Left 4 Dead should even be a separate game. Im not the only one who thinks this- there is an entire community that has instigated a boycott of Left 4 Dead 2. I hope Valve does the right thing and downgrades to plans for a full retail release."

G.I.: "The "controversy" surrounding the announcement of Left 4 Dead 2is pathetic. Have you played the full game yet? Do you know exactly how the team is improving the mechanics? Do you know all about the weapons and enemies being added? No, you dont. Furthermore, without that information, you are wholly unqualified to make any judgments relating to the games scope quality and appropriate pricing. Heres a little tip: COmplaining about these things with no firsthand experience doesnt make you a gaming activist. It makes you a whiny entitled brat."

Good for G.I. Silence the whiny entitled brats LOL

Yet, if L4D2 ends up being more or less the same than the first, what will they say then?

Oh, the irony.

People are boycotting it because they weren't happy with the amount of content released for the original game. New weapons and missions were promised but they were never delivered. I bought L4D because I was promised these things and because I didn't get them I'm not going to buy L4D2. GI has to take the side of the publishers or else they won't get exclusive previews.

G.I. is worthless and has been for quite some time. They don't know what they're talking about most of the time when it comes to games (especially PC games), and their opinions are sometimes founded on objective information which is downright wrong.

On this whole L4D2 "controversy," I'm remaining pretty neutral. I thought the first was a mediocre arcade shooter and the sequel will be more or less the same from the information revealed thus far.

Yet, if L4D2 ends up being more or less the same than the first, what will they say then?

Legendaryscmt

People are boycotting it because they weren't happy with the amount of content released for the original game. New weapons and missions were promised but they were never delivered. I bought L4D because I was promised these things and because I didn't get them I'm not going to buy L4D2. GI has to take the side of the publishers or else they won't get exclusive previews.

SuperVegeta518

[QUOTE="SuperVegeta518"]

People are boycotting it because they weren't happy with the amount of content released for the original game. New weapons and missions were promised but they were never delivered. I bought L4D because I was promised these things and because I didn't get them I'm not going to buy L4D2. GI has to take the side of the publishers or else they won't get exclusive previews.

slvrraven9

So they can release a sequel before a map pack?

G.I. is worthless and has been for quite some time. They don't know what they're talking about most of the time when it comes to games (especially PC games), and their opinions are sometimes founded on objective information which is downright wrong.

On this whole L4D2 "controversy," I'm remaining pretty neutral. I thought the first was a mediocre arcade shooter and the sequel will be more or less the same from the information revealed thus far.Saturos3091

i guess it comes to a matter of opinion because ive always found their review to be pretty spot on....for the most part. i cant comment on their PC reviews becaus ei just got into the whole myself and hadnt really been paying attention to it much, but if theyre console revies are any reflection...if say they have a pretty good bead on things as far as an eye for quality goes...

That was a bit mean. They sounded really mad, and while I don't really know much about the whole L4D2 issue, that seemed a bit uncalled for.

Poor show Game Informer.

Ah, Game Informer. Best game publication ever! Read this an hour ago, still makes me smile.enterawesome

Ah, Game Informer. Best game publication ever! Read this an hour ago, still makes me smile.enterawesome

[QUOTE="slvrraven9"][QUOTE="SuperVegeta518"]

People are boycotting it because they weren't happy with the amount of content released for the original game. New weapons and missions were promised but they were never delivered. I bought L4D because I was promised these things and because I didn't get them I'm not going to buy L4D2. GI has to take the side of the publishers or else they won't get exclusive previews.

So they can release a sequel before a map pack?

G.I. is worthless and has been for quite some time. They don't know what they're talking about most of the time when it comes to games (especially PC games), and their opinions are sometimes founded on objective information which is downright wrong.

On this whole L4D2 "controversy," I'm remaining pretty neutral. I thought the first was a mediocre arcade shooter and the sequel will be more or less the same from the information revealed thus far.

Saturos3091

That was a bit mean. They sounded really mad, and while I don't really know much about the whole L4D2 issue, that seemed a bit uncalled for.

Poor show Game Informer.

SSJ_Nega

Well that was one letter, I'm sure there were a gajillion other letters they got so they probably just got fed up with it.

Im really getting sick of people just calling the boycotter's "whiners" and "little brats".

if you throw out something like that you clearly dont understand both sides of the fence and have no business discussing the matter at hand, how can you have a conversation when you just shut out the other side?

reading the topic i honestly thought that the new GI Joe movie was going to adress it and i was so completely confused

LOL it's sad that people are still defending Valve over this.funked_up

Yet, if L4D2 ends up being more or less the same than the first, what will they say then?

Legendaryscmt

Exactly. People can change their minds. I will be more than happy to admit L4D2 is a proper sequel if they show lots of new original content for it. But so far, it seems more like a map pack with slightly tweaked graphics and leftovers from the previous game.

The only thing that's truly new as per gameplay are the melee weapons and new zombies (of which we have seen one).

Maybe they'll show more that will justify the sequel, but I highly doubt it when the original is only a year old.

[QUOTE="Saturos3091"]

G.I. is worthless and has been for quite some time. They don't know what they're talking about most of the time when it comes to games (especially PC games), and their opinions are sometimes founded on objective information which is downright wrong.

On this whole L4D2 "controversy," I'm remaining pretty neutral. I thought the first was a mediocre arcade shooter and the sequel will be more or less the same from the information revealed thus far.

lettuceman44

tbh I am not excited to have to pay 50$ for 4-5 more campaign, but really I don't care. I paid l4d 25$ 4 months after the release and I will do the same thing once that one is on sale. I trust that Valve will handle the situation correctly and I hope they will make l4d2 an expansion pack to l4d, not a new game, because that would be cheap to separate the communityFranko_3

Im really getting sick of people just calling the boycotter's "whiners" and "little brats".

if you throw out something like that you clearly dont understand both sides of the fence and have no business discussing the matter at hand, how can you have a conversation when you just shut out the other side?

Yet, if L4D2 ends up being more or less the same than the first, what will they say then?

Legendaryscmt

I really like gi, their reviews aren't too good but everything else is fantastic. SAGE_OF_FIRE

LOL it's sad that people are still defending Valve over this.funked_up

Even sadder that the gaming "media" is more enamored with kissing butts for a new tidbit thrown their way instead of really exploring the issues for their readers. If all jornalism worked this way, we'd only know what PR men thought...

[QUOTE="Franko_3"]tbh I am not excited to have to pay 50$ for 4-5 more campaign, but really I don't care. I paid l4d 25$ 4 months after the release and I will do the same thing once that one is on sale. I trust that Valve will handle the situation correctly and I hope they will make l4d2 an expansion pack to l4d, not a new game, because that would be cheap to separate the communityslvrraven9

Well, they haven't said anything so definitive as that, but they did say they were looking into it.

I think this group of people that want to boycot L4D2 are a bunch of whiny little brats Valve Is giving you a completly new game and you know it usually takes them More than 5 years to realease a sequel So they should be happy

nobodys being shut out but with a community of boycotters im sure whats said has been said countless times before. theyre just giving their observation on how they percieve the people thats complaining. its like how can you complain without having anything solid except some slides and a video or two. everything else has been discussed and reslolved. split of community? - resolved continued support of L4D? - resolved enough additions to warrent a sequel? -.....well that ones still up in the air but well soon see whether people like it or not... slvrraven9

You can't not split the community and have enough additions to warrant a sequel.

If the former is fulfilled, the sequel has to be nearly identical to the first. If the latter is fulfilled, the community will be split between the two games.

And their continued support for L4D is kind of an empty promise, since they have done a pretty poor job of supporting it so far. Why should we expect them to do any better now that their attention will be split?

G.I. is worthless and has been for quite some time. They don't know what they're talking about most of the time when it comes to games (especially PC games), and their opinions are sometimes founded on objective information which is downright wrong.

On this whole L4D2 "controversy," I'm remaining pretty neutral. I thought the first was a mediocre arcade shooter and the sequel will be more or less the same from the information revealed thus far.

Saturos3091

Yet, if L4D2 ends up being more or less the same than the first, what will they say then?

Legendaryscmt

Good for G.I. Silence the whiny entitled brats LOL

dream431ca

Who is silenced?

[QUOTE="slvrraven9"] nobodys being shut out but with a community of boycotters im sure whats said has been said countless times before. theyre just giving their observation on how they percieve the people thats complaining. its like how can you complain without having anything solid except some slides and a video or two. everything else has been discussed and reslolved. split of community? - resolved continued support of L4D? - resolved enough additions to warrent a sequel? -.....well that ones still up in the air but well soon see whether people like it or not... metroidfood

You can't not split the community and have enough additions to warrant a sequel.

If the former is fulfilled, the sequel has to be nearly identical to the first. If the latter is fulfilled, the community will be split between the two games.

And their continued support for L4D is kind of an empty promise, since they have done a pretty poor job of supporting it so far. Why should we expect them to do any better now that their attention will be split?

QFT!

The man is a prophet.

[QUOTE="slvrraven9"] nobodys being shut out but with a community of boycotters im sure whats said has been said countless times before. theyre just giving their observation on how they percieve the people thats complaining. its like how can you complain without having anything solid except some slides and a video or two. everything else has been discussed and reslolved. split of community? - resolved continued support of L4D? - resolved enough additions to warrent a sequel? -.....well that ones still up in the air but well soon see whether people like it or not... metroidfood

You can't not split the community and have enough additions to warrant a sequel.

If the former is fulfilled, the sequel has to be nearly identical to the first. If the latter is fulfilled, the community will be split between the two games.

And their continued support for L4D is kind of an empty promise, since they have done a pretty poor job of supporting it so far. Why should we expect them to do any better now that their attention will be split?

Yet, if L4D2 ends up being more or less the same than the first, what will they say then?

I won't boycott it or anything, but I do think that there aren't enough new things added to the game (that we know of so far) to warrant a sequel. I don't know if I'll buy it or not. I might if there's a sale or something, but I won't pay $50 for it.