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#51 hayato_
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[QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]

[QUOTE="110million"][QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]

Oops, more are out. The ones I was refing to (The only reliable ones there were) are RPGfan (70%) and Famitsu (29/40). Seems the reviews are starting to lighten up. Previews so far on the otherhand kinda say otherwise.

I preordered already so w/e.

I do believe Eurogamer gave it an 8, and they are quite harsh. This video was quite awesome, that combat, which reminds me of FFXI and FFXII is a very nice combination of active and turn based, probably one of the best ways to do it, for a game like this, and along with the town building and online, game seems easily at least worth its value.

Just wish the combat was a bit faster :(

Its slow in the beginning. Too slow if you ask me, but as the game progresses, it gets progressingly faster to the right speed that you can set up strategies and such
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#52 2mrw
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[QUOTE="Abicus7"]

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This game will bomb. Not only are the visuals completely underwhelming, but so is the story and gameplay. Level 5 usually doesn't disappoint, but WKC is the rare exception.

Didnt you also say Demons souls was going to bomb at one time?

this, Demon Soul is a live example to own any hater for new RPG, i was bashing 3rd dot game (or wutever) and when Demon Soul came up, i was speechless, and considering the good history of Lv 5, WNC has a better chance to score better than DS, or at least to be at the same level.
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#53 Regisland
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This will be the next Demons Souls.

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#54 jakarai
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This will be the next Demons Souls.

Regisland
I surely hope so.
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#55 akbar13
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I thought this was supposed to be graphics king or something?

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#56 Shirokishi_
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[QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]

[QUOTE="110million"] I do believe Eurogamer gave it an 8, and they are quite harsh. This video was quite awesome, that combat, which reminds me of FFXI and FFXII is a very nice combination of active and turn based, probably one of the best ways to do it, for a game like this, and along with the town building and online, game seems easily at least worth its value.hayato_

Just wish the combat was a bit faster :(

Its slow in the beginning. Too slow if you ask me, but as the game progresses, it gets progressingly faster to the right speed that you can set up strategies and such

Alright, Ill take your and Kashiwabas word for it.

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#57 Dead-Memories
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The reception i've been hearing is mediocore at best. Doesn't look like a purhcase at all
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#58 110million
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Alright, Ill take your and Kashiwabas word for it.Shirokishi_
Running out of complaints, you giant sheep? :P
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#59 Shirokishi_
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[QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]Alright, Ill take your and Kashiwabas word for it.110million
Running out of complaints, you giant sheep? :P

Nope, the artstyle is total ass ;)

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#60 110million
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[QUOTE="110million"][QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]Alright, Ill take your and Kashiwabas word for it.Shirokishi_

Running out of complaints, you giant sheep? :P

Nope, the artstyle is total ass ;)

This is true! :o I do like what the city and enviornments look like though, not technical or artistic masterpieces by any stretch, but they look fine. I have a special bias for this type of combat, combined with my special bias for Level 5 and city building, I'm probably more hyped than I should be, but If the game does deliver on what it looks like, I should have no reason to be dissapointed, eurogamer's review says that the game itself is able to provide some comedy (on purpose) as the game does not take itself too seriously, so I don't believe the plot itself will be too terrible regardless of being the oldest cliche in the book.
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#61 hayato_
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[QUOTE="110million"][QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]Alright, Ill take your and Kashiwabas word for it.Shirokishi_

Running out of complaints, you giant sheep? :P

Nope, the artstyle is total ass ;)

Yeah, I wonder what the art director was thinking during this game, but it is a game set in the times. Rogue Galaxy's art direction was soooo good compared to this and any other game on the PS2 besides the Final Fantasy series
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#62 KittenWishes
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definitely on Feb i'll pick up White Knight, Star Ocean 4, Last Rebillion and Heavy Rain :)

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I'd skip SO4 if I were you, just wasting your time and money on a crapola game that should never have been released.
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#63 Nonstop-Madness
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Im either gonna get this AND FF13 or just FF13 ...... i don't know yet.
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#64 TheOwnerOner
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This will be the Next Lair
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#65 Kashiwaba
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This will be the Next LairTheOwnerOner

Lair got 4/10 from Eurogamer while this got 8/10 lol sorry but you fail they are on different leagues.

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#66 mythrol
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I heard somewhere else the story mode was 100 hours long, and I'm sure it could be if you really want to get everything and not speed run through. And yes the story does look average, that's great in a gen where every rpg has been below average. I don't know about you.. But I'm tired of RPgs with crazy hair do's, wacky J pop fashion and soap-opera like cut scenes.Abicus7

All I can tell you is what the DEVELOPER said in this interview. About a 40 hour game. This gen has had plenty of average stories already. Go look at Tales of Vesperia and Infinite Undiscovery. Both of them are right up the "average" ally. Lost Odyssey had an above average story. I'm sorry I expect more from my JRPGs now. I'm tired of supporting a genre that refuses to evolve. I also agree that I'm tired of wacky hair do's, Jpop fashion and soap-opera like cut scenes.

Demon's Souls was a good game but saying it is a 1000x better then this? :roll: I can't say that without playing them both. From what I have seen though this game looks like it will be better then Demon's Souls. I only have two weeks to find out for sure.jakarai

Let me phrase it this way since I haven't played WKC: From everything the developer has shown, and I've seen, this game will not be anywhere near Demon's Souls.

So a good story in your dictionary is "The US army is sending a unit to Russia to save the world from nuclear disaster or an ugly knight with big chin that tries to save the world from a demon but at the end the demon asks him to join him and the game ends) sorry but I prefer WKC story on that.Kashiwaba

I have no idea what games you're referencing to that I said I liked. However, no, my idea of a good story is like the one found in Lost Odyssey. FFX was pretty good too (aside from Tidus being a bit whiny). FF7 for it's time was great (forget the haters). FF4. Chrono Trigger. There are multiple examples of developers who had a good story. WKC however, is NOT one of them.

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#67 Ringx55
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[QUOTE="mythrol"][QUOTE="Abicus7"]

100 hour story mode, 100 online quests (with DLC), Build your own town for your friends to visit and buy items from you, voice chat...and you say there is no Hook..I was hooked as soon as I heard about it.Anyways, I hyped the game between 8 and 8.5. I'm thinking it will score around there.

Kashiwaba

Did you watch the video? The developer said the story mode was "about 40 hours". To refer to my previous post, I'm sorry but it does look BLAND. Or if you diehards prefer, it looks "uninspired", or maybe "generic". The story is "Leonard turns into a white knight, but doesn't know why. He must figure it out . . .to save the princess/kingdom/whatever." That's so cliche and USED UP. Like I said, the only thing this game has going for it is the Act Raiser-like build your own town angle and slightly modified turned based combat. Demon's Souls is 1000x better. I'm actually glad DS had effectively no story. I've hit a point in my life where I'd rather no story and mindless fun than a horrible story that tries to act like it's good.

So a good story in your dictionary is "The US army is sending a unit to Russia to save the world from nuclear disaster or an ugly knight with big chin that tries to save the world from a demon but at the end the demon asks him to join him and the game ends) sorry but I prefer WKC story on that.

Love the spoilers of Demon's Souls... Thanks man.
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#68 mythrol
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Maybe its just me, but i cant recall many games where a kid spontaneously turns into a giant white knight.

brennan7777
I'm sorry, let me explain it in other terms for you. "A kid gains a power without fully understanding it, then while trying to gain control of it he finds himself wrapped up in having to save a kingdom from a 'mysterious' villain." Put a different shell on it, but at it's core the story is the same played out story that countless other JRPGs have used.
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#69 Shirokishi_
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[QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]

[QUOTE="110million"] Running out of complaints, you giant sheep? :P110million

Nope, the artstyle is total ass ;)

This is true! :o I do like what the city and enviornments look like though, not technical or artistic masterpieces by any stretch, but they look fine. I have a special bias for this type of combat, combined with my special bias for Level 5 and city building, I'm probably more hyped than I should be, but If the game does deliver on what it looks like, I should have no reason to be dissapointed, eurogamer's review says that the game itself is able to provide some comedy (on purpose) as the game does not take itself too seriously, so I don't believe the plot itself will be too terrible regardless of being the oldest cliche in the book.

Idk, the artstyle makes the towns look.... Idk, plain? and makes the characters look like crap. The environments have color and what not and look alright but still look like their missing something. Idk, maybe Im just wierd. I think Level 5 shouldve went with cell shading personally.

If the combat was a bit faster I wouldnt have such a problem with It. All in all it will probably be fine but I still wish Level 5 went with Rogue Galaxy pace,

The story/storytelling and characters are the least of my worries. That whole category sounds perfectly fine, great storytelling could almost definitely carry the crap cliche.

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#70 bigboss5ak
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[QUOTE="KittenWishes"][QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

definitely on Feb i'll pick up White Knight, Star Ocean 4, Last Rebillion and Heavy Rain :)

I'd skip SO4 if I were you, just wasting your time and money on a crapola game that should never have been released.

You'd better listen to this guy
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#71 Kashiwaba
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[QUOTE="KittenWishes"][QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

definitely on Feb i'll pick up White Knight, Star Ocean 4, Last Rebillion and Heavy Rain :)

bigboss5ak

I'd skip SO4 if I were you, just wasting your time and money on a crapola game that should never have been released.

You'd better listen to this guy

The game wasnt bad it was average but the horrible voice acting killed it for me so I couldnt finish the game on 360 I'm going to buy it again on PS3 cuz it got Japanese voice acting.

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#72 Shirokishi_
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[QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]

[QUOTE="110million"] Running out of complaints, you giant sheep? :Phayato_

Nope, the artstyle is total ass ;)

Yeah, I wonder what the art director was thinking during this game, but it is a game set in the times. Rogue Galaxy's art direction was soooo good compared to this and any other game on the PS2 besides the Final Fantasy series

Yes, Rogue Galaxy looked fantastic and I wish they went that direction but w/e.

Atleast Its had some fine tuning and doesnt look horrendous anymore.

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#75 110million
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[QUOTE="bigboss5ak"][QUOTE="KittenWishes"] I'd skip SO4 if I were you, just wasting your time and money on a crapola game that should never have been released.Kashiwaba

You'd better listen to this guy

The game wasnt bad it was average but the horrible voice acting killed it for me so I couldnt finish the game on 360 I'm going to buy it again on PS3 cuz it got Japanese voice acting.

Yeah, though voice acting alone woulden't fix my problems, you'd have to re-do all the character models.
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#76 Shirokishi_
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[QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]

[QUOTE="bigboss5ak"] You'd better listen to this guyAncientDozer

The game wasnt bad it was average but the horrible voice acting killed it for me so I couldnt finish the game on 360 I'm going to buy it again on PS3 cuz it got Japanese voice acting.

The question is whether or not SO4 had the same stupid plot twist of the game that never existed, SO3.

OMG, that was probably one of the most ridiculous plot twists Ive ever heard in an RPG. Total garbage. Game was good overall but my god, the story....

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#77 BioShockOwnz
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[QUOTE="Abicus7"]

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

This game will bomb. Not only are the visuals completely underwhelming, but so is the story and gameplay. Level 5 usually doesn't disappoint, but WKC is the rare exception.

2mrw

Didnt you also say Demons souls was going to bomb at one time?

this, Demon Soul is a live example to own any hater for new RPG, i was bashing 3rd dot game (or wutever) and when Demon Soul came up, i was speechless, and considering the good history of Lv 5, WNC has a better chance to score better than DS, or at least to be at the same level.

Lol. Sorry, WKC isn't going to be AAA. And unlike with DS, this time, yeah, I won't be wrong.

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#78 brennan7777
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[QUOTE="brennan7777"]

Maybe its just me, but i cant recall many games where a kid spontaneously turns into a giant white knight.

mythrol

I'm sorry, let me explain it in other terms for you. "A kid gains a power without fully understanding it, then while trying to gain control of it he finds himself wrapped up in having to save a kingdom from a 'mysterious' villain." Put a different shell on it, but at it's core the story is the same played out story that countless other JRPGs have used.

Ooooh ok so if we are digging to the core what games would be considered unique?

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#79 BioShockOwnz
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[QUOTE="mythrol"][QUOTE="brennan7777"]

Maybe its just me, but i cant recall many games where a kid spontaneously turns into a giant white knight.

brennan7777

I'm sorry, let me explain it in other terms for you. "A kid gains a power without fully understanding it, then while trying to gain control of it he finds himself wrapped up in having to save a kingdom from a 'mysterious' villain." Put a different shell on it, but at it's core the story is the same played out story that countless other JRPGs have used.

Ooooh ok so if we are digging to the core what games would be considered unique?

Not WKC, that's for damn sure. WKC shows all the symptoms of typical JRPG cliches. It's sad, really, because the online could potentially be amazing.

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#80 110million
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[QUOTE="brennan7777"]

[QUOTE="mythrol"] I'm sorry, let me explain it in other terms for you. "A kid gains a power without fully understanding it, then while trying to gain control of it he finds himself wrapped up in having to save a kingdom from a 'mysterious' villain." Put a different shell on it, but at it's core the story is the same played out story that countless other JRPGs have used.BioShockOwnz

Ooooh ok so if we are digging to the core what games would be considered unique?

Not WKC, that's for damn sure. WKC shows all the symptoms of typical JRPG cliches. It's sad, really, because the online could potentially be amazing.

How far did you get?
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#81 mythrol
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[QUOTE="mythrol"][QUOTE="brennan7777"]

Maybe its just me, but i cant recall many games where a kid spontaneously turns into a giant white knight.

brennan7777

I'm sorry, let me explain it in other terms for you. "A kid gains a power without fully understanding it, then while trying to gain control of it he finds himself wrapped up in having to save a kingdom from a 'mysterious' villain." Put a different shell on it, but at it's core the story is the same played out story that countless other JRPGs have used.

Ooooh ok so if we are digging to the core what games would be considered unique?

I listed a bunch of games that I thought had above average stories in my previous post. Go read that. All of them had SOMETHING that made it fresh / interesting for it's time. Some of them might seem cliche now (FF4 for example) but at it's time of release, it was new and interesting.
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#82 Kashiwaba
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="brennan7777"] Ooooh ok so if we are digging to the core what games would be considered unique?

110million

Not WKC, that's for damn sure. WKC shows all the symptoms of typical JRPG cliches. It's sad, really, because the online could potentially be amazing.

How far did you get?

Probably as far as he got in his imaginary imported Demon's souls :P.

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#83 NeoStar9
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Already have this pre-ordered at Amazon.com and I'm really looking forward. This is game has actually made me go out and pick up a headset for the PS3 ahead of time. I didn't want to deal with the keypad so I picked up a USB keyboard that has been working great with Home (and I can use it for the Wii and I think 360 as well). Game looks great every time I see it.
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#84 Roushrsh
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[QUOTE="Roushrsh"]I dunno, it looked great when it was announced, but now I don't have the time for RPGs, and to be quite honest, the game doesn't seem that amazing anymore. There's FF13 and Star ocean 4 coming out in the same month for ps3 so why wouldn't I get one of those proven JRPG's? I guess I can wait for the price to drop...Sokittoya

FF13 comes out the month after WKC comes out.

Yeah, but like a month apart :S