God, Infamous 2 looks incredible

Also, notice everyone hauling ass and clearing out in the background, LOL. mD-

Oh wow, i didn't even notice that at first, that's a nice touch.

[QUOTE="leadernator"]

What's going on in your Sig Stevo? Stevo_the_gamer

So basically you're calculating a games value off of Gamespot Review scores. Thanks for clearing that up :P

Well then your sig is pretty contradictory.

All I'm saying... c'mon Stevo, I've seen you bust the spread sheet out. What's the spread sheet based off of again? :P

Opinions are welcome, but GS's opinions obviously hold more ground... since SW has always viewed their reviews as THE credible source. Face it guys... this is nothing new.

leadernator

What does it contradict?

Metagame. Something in which this topic isn't close to being about.

As always.

So basically you're calculating a games value off of Gamespot Review scores. Thanks for clearing that up :P

leadernator

[QUOTE="leadernator"]

[QUOTE="FIipMode"]

No we actually don't go by only GS review scores.

FIipMode

Really? Please explain what determines a 'flop' in System Wars then.

Well if a GS review score can determine what a flop is.... it can also determine whether or not a game is awesome. AAA is awesome, we all know that. Infamous is a AAA game. Infamous is awesome.

You can't view GS as a credible source only when it favors you.

[QUOTE="leadernator"]Well then your sig is pretty contradictory.

All I'm saying... c'mon Stevo, I've seen you bust the spread sheet out. What's the spread sheet based off of again? :P

Opinions are welcome, but GS's opinions obviously hold more ground... since SW has always viewed their reviews as THE credible source. Face it guys... this is nothing new.

Stevo_the_gamer

What does it contradict?

Metagame. Something in which this topic isn't close to being about.

As always.

So basically you're calculating a games value off of Gamespot Review scores. Thanks for clearing that up :P

leadernator

That was your contradiction by the way.

That was your contradiction by the way.

leadernator

[QUOTE="FIipMode"][QUOTE="leadernator"]

Really? Please explain what determines a 'flop' in System Wars then.

leadernator

Well if a GS review score can determine what a flop is.... it can also determine whether or not a game is awesome. AAA is awesome, we all know that. Infamous is a AAA game. Infamous is awesome.

You can't view GS as a credible source only when it favors you.

Here's what your problem is, I'm not saying the game isn't awesome, in fact I've already said it's one of my favorite games this gen, that said it has some flaws like a lame cast and some repetitive side missions.

I mean if someone criticizes a game and you just go "Boom AAAE haters" without arguing a point is .....let's think of a word that won't get me modded, er..lame, it's very lame.

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"][QUOTE="leadernator"]

Yeah, and LBP2 is atrocious, right?

Friggn' haters yo!

leadernator

You shouldn't have hated on it in a previous thread then.

Just sayin' bro, you got a pattern hating on high profile PS3 exclusives... I'm simply calling you out.

Terrible characters and repetitive missions? Ridiculous. Sucker Punch should shove that Infamous AAAE score down your throat.

[QUOTE="leadernator"]

[QUOTE="FIipMode"] A GS review score, and that is it. No one is even talking about a flop here so why would the "Only GS counts for flops" rule even apply here? We were talking about some of the characteristics of the game.FIipMode

Well if a GS review score can determine what a flop is.... it can also determine whether or not a game is awesome. AAA is awesome, we all know that. Infamous is a AAA game. Infamous is awesome.

You can't view GS as a credible source only when it favors you.

Here's what your problem is, I'm not saying the game isn't awesome, in fact I've already said it's one of my favorite games this gen, that said it has some flaws like a lame cast and some repetitive side missions.

I mean if someone criticizes a game and you just go "Boom AAAE haters" without arguing a point is .....let's think of a word that won't get me modded, er..lame, it's very lame.

[QUOTE="leadernator"]

That was your contradiction by the way.

Stevo_the_gamer

Your failing. GS review scores were always > personal opinions IN SYSTEM WARS. It's something you're supporting in your SIG, so don't come in here suggesting otherwise.

Clear enough for you?

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

[QUOTE="leadernator"]

That was your contradiction by the way.

leadernator

Your failing. GS review scores were always > personal opinions IN SYSTEM WARS. It's something you're supporting in your SIG, so don't come in here suggesting otherwise.

Clear enough for you?

[QUOTE="FIipMode"]

[QUOTE="leadernator"]

Well if a GS review score can determine what a flop is.... it can also determine whether or not a game is awesome. AAA is awesome, we all know that. Infamous is a AAA game. Infamous is awesome.

You can't view GS as a credible source only when it favors you.

MFDOOM1983

Here's what your problem is, I'm not saying the game isn't awesome, in fact I've already said it's one of my favorite games this gen, that said it has some flaws like a lame cast and some repetitive side missions.

I mean if someone criticizes a game and you just go "Boom AAAE haters" without arguing a point is .....let's think of a word that won't get me modded, er..lame, it's very lame.

Funny how you only have a critical opinion against PS3 exclusives. Having this kind of pattern usually results in hater mode. That's why I called you out bro.

Also, try fighting your own battles :P

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Not seeing any contradiction.

Your failing. GS review scores were always > personal opinions IN SYSTEM WARS. It's something you're supporting in your SIG, so don't come in here suggesting otherwise.

Clear enough for you?

I like the way this game is shaping up. I wasn't too big on the first one, but I liked the story and comic cutscenes. I imagine this one will improve upon the original's shortcomings.

After seen Crysis 2 not much looks good to me anymore when it comes to graphics...

[QUOTE="leadernator"]

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Not seeing any contradiction.

Stevo_the_gamer

Your failing. GS review scores were always > personal opinions IN SYSTEM WARS. It's something you're supporting in your SIG, so don't come in here suggesting otherwise.

Clear enough for you?

You're going to downplay your own sig now?

It's not only your Sig... you've already agreed that you calculate a game's value based off of GS review scores.

GS review scores have always held more value than a personal opinion IN SYSTEM WARS. This is nothing new, and this whole 'buh buh my opinions!' won't change any time soon.

If you guys honestly disagree with me, then you probably shouldn't be using GS review scores as the guidelines for AAA, flop, AAE... etc. Bottom line

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"][QUOTE="FIipMode"]

Here's what your problem is, I'm not saying the game isn't awesome, in fact I've already said it's one of my favorite games this gen, that said it has some flaws like a lame cast and some repetitive side missions.

I mean if someone criticizes a game and you just go "Boom AAAE haters" without arguing a point is .....let's think of a word that won't get me modded, er..lame, it's very lame.

leadernator

Funny how you only have a critical opinion against PS3 exclusives. Having this kind of pattern usually results in hater mode. That's why I called you out bro.

Also, try fighting your own battles :P

[QUOTE="leadernator"]

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"] The debates here leave a lot to desire thanks to posters like him.MFDOOM1983

Funny how you only have a critical opinion against PS3 exclusives. Having this kind of pattern usually results in hater mode. That's why I called you out bro.

Also, try fighting your own battles :P

At least your honest... although I'm sure that it's a bit more than two games.

Uncharted 3 is next maybe?

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"][QUOTE="leadernator"]

Funny how you only have a critical opinion against PS3 exclusives. Having this kind of pattern usually results in hater mode. That's why I called you out bro.

Also, try fighting your own battles :P

leadernator

At least your honest... although I'm sure that it's a bit more than two games.

Uncharted 3 is next maybe?

[QUOTE="leadernator"]

[QUOTE="FIipMode"] A GS review score, and that is it. No one is even talking about a flop here so why would the "Only GS counts for flops" rule even apply here? We were talking about some of the characteristics of the game.FIipMode

Well if a GS review score can determine what a flop is.... it can also determine whether or not a game is awesome. AAA is awesome, we all know that. Infamous is a AAA game. Infamous is awesome.

You can't view GS as a credible source only when it favors you.

Here's what your problem is, I'm not saying the game isn't awesome, in fact I've already said it's one of my favorite games this gen, that said it has some flaws like a lame cast and some repetitive side missions.

I mean if someone criticizes a game and you just go "Boom AAAE haters" without arguing a point is .....let's think of a word that won't get me modded, er..lame, it's very lame.

Lame characters and repetitive gameplay... you're going to stand by that and still think the game is awesome? The game's strong points are its story and gameplay... that's pretty much the strong points in most single player games.

Just saying, that's a pretty big criticism, and doesn't really compute to the game being awesome.

You're going to downplay your own sig now?

It's not only your Sig... you've already agreed that you calculate a game's value based off of GS review scores.

GS review scores have always held more value than a personal opinion IN SYSTEM WARS. This is nothing new, and this whole 'buh buh my opinions!' won't change any time soon.

If you guys honestly disagree with me, then you probably shouldn't be using GS review scores as the guidelines for AAA, flop, AAE... etc. Bottom line

leadernator

What's to downplay, my sig is there to poke humor--it's so silly that no one *should* take it seriously; mostly just there to fill my tear jars from the fanboys' crying/raging.

No.

No. In regards to flops and metagame -- Gamespot is the only venue. Outside of that, each opinion is welcomed to be expressed. For example, in the metagame, MGS4 is a prime exclusive; yet in the minds of many here, it's not worthy of that status and all of them can easily explain why that is. But their opinions do not nullify the metagame, or the flop venues.

You are bringing in a discussion here that this thread had nothing to do with. You brought the wrath upon a few folks because they were critiquing tiny parts of the game... and their opinion was invalid because Gamespot said so. I think that's a wee-bit silly, and in the words of Flip... very lame.

Not bad, maybe i give this one a rent, did not like the first much

Uncharted 3 is my game more

[QUOTE="FIipMode"]

[QUOTE="leadernator"]

Well if a GS review score can determine what a flop is.... it can also determine whether or not a game is awesome. AAA is awesome, we all know that. Infamous is a AAA game. Infamous is awesome.

You can't view GS as a credible source only when it favors you.

leadernator

Here's what your problem is, I'm not saying the game isn't awesome, in fact I've already said it's one of my favorite games this gen, that said it has some flaws like a lame cast and some repetitive side missions.

I mean if someone criticizes a game and you just go "Boom AAAE haters" without arguing a point is .....let's think of a word that won't get me modded, er..lame, it's very lame.

Lame characters and repetitive gameplay... you're going to stand by that and still think the game is awesome? The game's strong points are its story and gameplay... that's pretty much the strong points in most single player games.

Just saying, that's a pretty big criticism, and doesn't really compute to the game being awesome.

Characters is a nice plus, but having a lame cast is never going to break a game for me.

And it did not say the whole game was repetitive I've been saying since the thread started that the SIDE missions in the first 2 island were repetitive, too many missions having you doing the same thing until you moved to the last island where it freshened up again. The main missions? Fantastic, especially going into the Dustmen hideout.

They aren't game breaking criticisms just some flaws in the game, it obviously isn't perfect, I'm honestly surprised you have such a hard time taking this all in.

[QUOTE="leadernator"]

You're going to downplay your own sig now?

It's not only your Sig... you've already agreed that you calculate a game's value based off of GS review scores.

GS review scores have always held more value than a personal opinion IN SYSTEM WARS. This is nothing new, and this whole 'buh buh my opinions!' won't change any time soon.

If you guys honestly disagree with me, then you probably shouldn't be using GS review scores as the guidelines for AAA, flop, AAE... etc. Bottom line

Stevo_the_gamer

What's to downplay, my sig is there to poke humor--it's so silly that no one *should* take it seriously; mostly just there to fill my tear jars from the fanboys' crying/raging.

No.

No. In regards to flops and metagame -- Gamespot is the only venue. Outside of that, each opinion is welcomed to be expressed. For example, in the metagame, MGS4 is a prime exclusive; yet in the minds of many here, it's not worthy of that status and all of them can easily explain why that is. But their opinions do not nullify the metagame, or the flop venues.

You are bringing in a discussion here that this thread had nothing to do with. You brought the wrath upon a few folks because they were critiquing tiny parts of the game... and their opinion was invalid because Gamespot said so. I think that's a wee-bit silly, and in the words of Flip... very lame.

And what's wrong with me disagreeing with their opinions?

And what's wrong with me using the Gamepsot Review score as a source to back up my case?

Metagame... flop venues... You're basically saying that you want to go use gamespot's criticisms only when it favors you. I think you guys need to have stronger grounds than that. I never said people's opinions aren't welcome, but if I don't agree, I'll obviously have something to say.

Stevo, you can say that your sig doesn't hold face value, or it's meant to be taken as a joke... but really, judging by your post history and which side you usually end up taking in arguments... it's pretty clear what your true intentions were in creating that sig.

MGS4 is a prime exclusive. Do I argue for it? Yes. Do I use GS's review as a source for back up? Yes. You guys all do it, and it's funny how this time FOR SOME REASON, you four posters think thats wrong.

[QUOTE="leadernator"]

[QUOTE="FIipMode"]

Here's what your problem is, I'm not saying the game isn't awesome, in fact I've already said it's one of my favorite games this gen, that said it has some flaws like a lame cast and some repetitive side missions.

I mean if someone criticizes a game and you just go "Boom AAAE haters" without arguing a point is .....let's think of a word that won't get me modded, er..lame, it's very lame.

FIipMode

Lame characters and repetitive gameplay... you're going to stand by that and still think the game is awesome? The game's strong points are its story and gameplay... that's pretty much the strong points in most single player games.

Just saying, that's a pretty big criticism, and doesn't really compute to the game being awesome.

Characters is a nice plus, but having a lame cast is never going to break a game for me.

And it did not say the whole game was repetitive I've been saying since the thread started that the SIDE missions in the first 2 island were repetitive, too many missions having you doing the same thing until you moved to the last island where it freshened up again. The main missions? Fantastic, especially going into the Dustmen hideout.

They aren't game breaking criticisms just some flaws in the game, it obviously isn't perfect, I'm honestly surprised you have such a hard time taking this all in.

Honestly man, you weren't that clear before. All I read was that the game had lame characters and repetitive missions. ONLY saying that kind of classifies the game as a whole, correct?

Actually, you didn't initially say that... I think you were just following up with MFDOOM's post.

[QUOTE="FIipMode"]

[QUOTE="leadernator"]

Lame characters and repetitive gameplay... you're going to stand by that and still think the game is awesome? The game's strong points are its story and gameplay... that's pretty much the strong points in most single player games.

Just saying, that's a pretty big criticism, and doesn't really compute to the game being awesome.

leadernator

Characters is a nice plus, but having a lame cast is never going to break a game for me.

And it did not say the whole game was repetitive I've been saying since the thread started that the SIDE missions in the first 2 island were repetitive, too many missions having you doing the same thing until you moved to the last island where it freshened up again. The main missions? Fantastic, especially going into the Dustmen hideout.

They aren't game breaking criticisms just some flaws in the game, it obviously isn't perfect, I'm honestly surprised you have such a hard time taking this all in.

Honestly man, you weren't that clear before. All I read was that the game had lame characters and repetitive missions. ONLY saying that kind of classifies the game as a whole, correct?

Actually, you didn't initially say that... I think you were just following up with MFDOOM's post.

Wasn't clear? really? My post was

The characters were nothing special(This means, that the characters.....weren't special, a lame cast if you will.), and for the first 2 islands the side missions were quite repetitive(This means that for the first 2 islands, the side missions....were samey for the first 2 islands).

That's what I've said since this convo started, nothings changed since then.

wow the first was incredible and the second looks so much improved :D

Definitely getting this i got a fair bit of play time out of infamous.

wow the first was incredible and the second looks so much improved :D

HAZE-Unit

[QUOTE="leadernator"]

[QUOTE="FIipMode"]

Characters is a nice plus, but having a lame cast is never going to break a game for me.

And it did not say the whole game was repetitive I've been saying since the thread started that the SIDE missions in the first 2 island were repetitive, too many missions having you doing the same thing until you moved to the last island where it freshened up again. The main missions? Fantastic, especially going into the Dustmen hideout.

They aren't game breaking criticisms just some flaws in the game, it obviously isn't perfect, I'm honestly surprised you have such a hard time taking this all in.

FIipMode

Honestly man, you weren't that clear before. All I read was that the game had lame characters and repetitive missions. ONLY saying that kind of classifies the game as a whole, correct?

Actually, you didn't initially say that... I think you were just following up with MFDOOM's post.

Wasn't clear? really? My post was

The characters were nothing special(This means, that the characters.....weren't special, a lame cast if you will.), and for the first 2 islands the side missions were quite repetitive(This means that for the first 2 islands, the side missions....were samey for the first 2 islands).

That's what I've said since this convo started, nothings changed since then.

You never said the main missions were fantastic since the beginning, did you? Anyway, I get what you're saying now. You followed up with MFDOOM's post, which was way too general.

I do however, disagree with your opinion on the cast. Going by the events that happened in the story (without giving spoilers), it makes more sense for the focus to be more towards Cole and his best friend.

Repetitive in the beginning... you may be right, but it's nothing in it that's more repetitive than other games in its genre. IMO of course.

Looks OK. The first never really grabbed me.

psn8214

I couldn't get into it either for some reason

I forget is there a release day for this? Cause it just jumped right up the list of games I want lool. Seriously it looks pretty awesome.

[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

wow the first was incredible and the second looks so much improved :D

MushroomWig

The game looks very similar to Uncharted 2.

I'll be surprised it it ends up looking exactly on par w/UC2 though.

Are you hyping this game AAAE.?

jimmypsn

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Are you hyping this game AAAE.?

incuensuocha

lol same here, I would say 9.0 on GS (no lower than an 8.5 though). So do we know an official release date?

[QUOTE="incuensuocha"][QUOTE="jimmypsn"]

Are you hyping this game AAAE.?

NaveedLife

lol same here, I would say 9.0 on GS (no lower than an 8.5 though). So do we know an official release date?

[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

[QUOTE="incuensuocha"]I'm hyping this game Awesome!FIipMode

lol same here, I would say 9.0 on GS (no lower than an 8.5 though). So do we know an official release date?

Love it. Graphics look amazing compared to the first.

Going to be fun as hell. Looks much better than the first one, which I loved to death.

Looks good. Cows will probably hype this as AAAE 9.5 and throw a huge fit if it 8.5's, which I think it will. Whatever, it looks good. I still haven't played a lot of the first one though. SilverChimera

I think an 8.5 is possible, but a 9.0 is likely. I mean there hasnt been many advancements since Infamous 1 in sandbox games, and this appears to take infamous 1 and give it better graphics, facial animations, story, action, diversity and so on. So when they give the original a 9 and this one is better in everyway (so it would seem), you would think it would receive a 9.0 or so.