God OF war 2 OUTSCORING GEARS Across the board! What excuses will they have lol

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#101 Jack-Thompson
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I can't play a washed out last gen game, I got funds for this gen.
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#102 Episode_Eve
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[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"][QUOTE="ginazswordsman"]Anyone care to explain the point of this thread? One is a hack and slash game and the other is a shooter and a whole generation apart.

And reviewers rate games according to their own generation, not accross generations. So that score does not compare to any next gen games. It only compares to other PS2 games and games from last gen.

I'm new here so forgive me for asking but are such threads common? ( you know, ignorant )

If they are somebody just say so and I'll just ignore them from here on out.
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Considering your logic (which I don't disagree with). GoW 2 has more standards to live up to since the PS2 is 7 years old with hundreds of more games and dozens of other great games in the same genre (including a AAA predecessor) .

Wrong. Read Gamespot's "read about our ratings system." Every game is reviewed according to the console it is on. Imagine if a game came out on gameboy colour and got a 9.7 - by your logic that makes it better than gears of war. Of course not. That's nonsense. It just means that on it's respective platform, it does good things to push the hardware, and it's a great game in that genre for that particular system.

Lol, wow. You just reiterated what I said exactly. Perhaps you misinterpreted it...I said that God or War 2 has alot of standards to live up to on PS2 considering the consoles age and the hundreds of other great games that are on the system. Not only is it related to other great games, but also God of War (1). I said GoW 2 has more standards to live up (VS. Gears on 360) to because of the age and extensive library that the PS2 has.
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#103 caseypayne69
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Anyone care to explain the point of this thread? One is a hack and slash game and the other is a shooter and a whole generation apart.

And reviewers rate games according to their own generation, not accross generations. So that score does not compare to any next gen games. It only compares to other PS2 games and games from last gen.

I'm new here so forgive me for asking but are such threads common? ( you know, ignorant )

If they are somebody just say so and I'll just ignore them from here on out.
ginazswordsman

I would like to give my point of view with this statement.  Not that I'm against it, but if a game is rated based on its own system set of games which it isn't, then Resistant got a 8.6 because the PS3 is capable of something much better even though to alot of people Resistance is just as pretty to look at and play as Gears.  By this comment your ur saying a game can only get .4 better on the 360 then gears and there is 1.4 points of room for a PS3 game is quality.

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#104 2FacedJanus
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[QUOTE="voxware00"]theres also 5x the amount of reviews for gears
to be fair, we should wait for the gs review

im not a lemming or anything
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Dont worry GS will shaft it and give it like a 9.4 when its a 9.6-9.8 game.

and those .2 or .4 point difference means what exactly? Oh that's right, it means alot to fanboys. As for the topic creator, you forgot about one huge flaw in your logic. God of War II hasn't received nearly as much reviews as gears did.

I mean, just look at it: God of War II: Based on 8 Media Outlets, Gears of War: Based on 105 media outlets.. that's over 13 times as much!
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#105 VladTheImpaler
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And the funny thing is, most 360 owners probably have a ps2..MTBare

How right you are.  Talk all the smack you people want, but at least the xbox 360 does't suck so bad that they reserve the best games for the previous generation.   That would be like them making Halo 3 on regular xbox.

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#106 caseypayne69
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My last two comments is.  Did you know if you play God of War 2 on your PS3 you can play it in 720p format?  What I heard at least.  And I can't wait to see what God of War 3 might look like on the PS3 if the story carries further.  If not then what ever else that company makes.
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#107 VladTheImpaler
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[QUOTE="ginazswordsman"]Anyone care to explain the point of this thread? One is a hack and slash game and the other is a shooter and a whole generation apart.

And reviewers rate games according to their own generation, not accross generations. So that score does not compare to any next gen games. It only compares to other PS2 games and games from last gen.

I'm new here so forgive me for asking but are such threads common? ( you know, ignorant )

If they are somebody just say so and I'll just ignore them from here on out.
caseypayne69

I would like to give my point of view with this statement.  Not that I'm against it, but if a game is rated based on its own system set of games which it isn't, then Resistant got a 8.6 because the PS3 is capable of something much better even though to alot of people Resistance is just as pretty to look at and play as Gears.  By this comment your ur saying a game can only get .4 better on the 360 then gears and there is 1.4 points of room for a PS3 game is quality.

Opinion not fact.

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#108 nnavidson
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My thoughts can be found at the following:

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25385147

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[QUOTE="MTBare"]And the funny thing is, most 360 owners probably have a ps2..VladTheImpaler

How right you are. Talk all the smack you people want, but at least the xbox 360 does't suck so bad that they reserve the best games for the previous generation. That would be like them making Halo 3 on regular xbox.

Wow, you really seem to not understand the situation. You're thinking to vaguely.
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#110 nnavidson
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My last two comments is.  Did you know if you play God of War 2 on your PS3 you can play it in 720p format?  What I heard at least.  And I can't wait to see what God of War 3 might look like on the PS3 if the story carries further.  If not then what ever else that company makes.caseypayne69

That's not the case.

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#111 Nedemis
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I'm a full blown lemming but I have to admit that GOW2 looks phenominal for being on the PS2. That said, there are far lower standards for a PS2 game than there are for 360 games. None the less, GOW2 looks to be a very serious contender for GOTY2007.
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#112 TheCrazed420
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I don't see the point of this thread. I'm glad GOW2 is getting great scores, I'll be playing it on my ps2. I don't see what this game has to do with Gears at all. But I'm happy for you, cow, you obviously needed a pickmeup.
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#113 bezaire2005
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[QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"][QUOTE="Episode_Eve"][QUOTE="ginazswordsman"]Anyone care to explain the point of this thread? One is a hack and slash game and the other is a shooter and a whole generation apart.

And reviewers rate games according to their own generation, not accross generations. So that score does not compare to any next gen games. It only compares to other PS2 games and games from last gen.

I'm new here so forgive me for asking but are such threads common? ( you know, ignorant )

If they are somebody just say so and I'll just ignore them from here on out.
Episode_Eve
Considering your logic (which I don't disagree with). GoW 2 has more standards to live up to since the PS2 is 7 years old with hundreds of more games and dozens of other great games in the same genre (including a AAA predecessor) .

Wrong. Read Gamespot's "read about our ratings system." Every game is reviewed according to the console it is on. Imagine if a game came out on gameboy colour and got a 9.7 - by your logic that makes it better than gears of war. Of course not. That's nonsense. It just means that on it's respective platform, it does good things to push the hardware, and it's a great game in that genre for that particular system.

Lol, wow. You just reiterated what I said exactly. Perhaps you misinterpreted it...I said that God or War 2 has alot of standards to live up to on PS2 considering the consoles age and the hundreds of other great games that are on the system. Not only is it related to other great games, but also God of War (1). I said GoW 2 has more standards to live up (VS. Gears on 360) to because of the age and extensive library that the PS2 has.

No, he didn't reiterated what you said at all.  You are saying that the standards are high because the ps2 has been out longer and there have been so many games released.  He is saying (and is supported by the GS rules statement) that it's a bad comparison because 360 games are based on more of a strict criteria than ps2 games.  A 10/10 in graphics on the ps2 is not the same as a 10/10 in graphics on the 360, and reviewers have to expect 360 games to look better because of the updated hardware. 

-Lot's of games were released for the gamecube, and madden 06 scored a 8.1, does that mean that madden 06 on the gamecube is superior to the 2007 versions on the 360/ps3?   By your logic, since many more games were relesaed on the gamecube over the 360/ps3, the gamecube game was judged on higher standards and therefore is the best game?  Doesn't make sense to me. 

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#114 Nedemis
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My last two comments is. Did you know if you play God of War 2 on your PS3 you can play it in 720p format? What I heard at least. And I can't wait to see what God of War 3 might look like on the PS3 if the story carries further. If not then what ever else that company makes.caseypayne69


nope....that was debunked a while ago.....
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#115 tag_001
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GoW 2 is a PS2 game that has no impact in the current "system wars", why even try to claim ownage over this?

Either way, I had more fun playing GoW than DMC3 and NG, I can't wait for GoW2(and 3 specially on the next gen systems).
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#116 Nedemis
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I don't see the point of this thread. I'm glad GOW2 is getting great scores, I'll be playing it on my ps2. I don't see what this game has to do with Gears at all. But I'm happy for you, cow, you obviously needed a pickmeup.TheCrazed420
all cows needed a pick-me-up after the horrible launch line up for the PS3...:lol:
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#117 bezaire2005
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[QUOTE="TheCrazed420"]I don't see the point of this thread. I'm glad GOW2 is getting great scores, I'll be playing it on my ps2. I don't see what this game has to do with Gears at all. But I'm happy for you, cow, you obviously needed a pickmeup.Nedemis
all cows needed a pick-me-up after the horrible launch line up for the PS3...:lol:

lol and the pick-me-up isn't even on the ps3...extra $200 my a**

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[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"][QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"][QUOTE="Episode_Eve"][QUOTE="ginazswordsman"]Anyone care to explain the point of this thread? One is a hack and slash game and the other is a shooter and a whole generation apart.

And reviewers rate games according to their own generation, not accross generations. So that score does not compare to any next gen games. It only compares to other PS2 games and games from last gen.

I'm new here so forgive me for asking but are such threads common? ( you know, ignorant )

If they are somebody just say so and I'll just ignore them from here on out.
bezaire2005

Considering your logic (which I don't disagree with). GoW 2 has more standards to live up to since the PS2 is 7 years old with hundreds of more games and dozens of other great games in the same genre (including a AAA predecessor) .

Wrong. Read Gamespot's "read about our ratings system." Every game is reviewed according to the console it is on. Imagine if a game came out on gameboy colour and got a 9.7 - by your logic that makes it better than gears of war. Of course not. That's nonsense. It just means that on it's respective platform, it does good things to push the hardware, and it's a great game in that genre for that particular system.

Lol, wow. You just reiterated what I said exactly. Perhaps you misinterpreted it...I said that God or War 2 has alot of standards to live up to on PS2 considering the consoles age and the hundreds of other great games that are on the system. Not only is it related to other great games, but also God of War (1). I said GoW 2 has more standards to live up (VS. Gears on 360) to because of the age and extensive library that the PS2 has.

No, he didn't reiterated what you said at all. You are saying that the standards are high because the ps2 has been out longer and there have been so many games released. He is saying (and is supported by the GS rules statement) that it's a bad comparison because 360 games are based on more of a strict criteria than ps2 games. A 10/10 in graphics on the ps2 is not the same as a 10/10 in graphics on the 360, and reviewers have to expect 360 games to look better because of the updated hardware.

-Lot's of games were released for the gamecube, and madden 06 scored a 8.1, does that mean that madden 06 on the gamecube is superior to the 2007 versions on the 360/ps3? By your logic, since many more games were relesaed on the gamecube over the 360/ps3, the gamecube game was judged on higher standards and therefore is the best game? Doesn't make sense to me.

I'm not just talking about MORE games. I'm talking about more AAA/ AA games. Especially the genre standards that each system has. I'm not going into whether which will be/ is a better game because they are totally different. But considering that GoW was received by critics with AAA scores world wide...I think it's very impressive for GoW 2 to be doing so well. It could have turned out to be "another hack-n-slash we've come to expect" but that's not the case. The game is awesome.
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#119 dsmccracken
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GOW2 is a victory for the PS2 and a victory for Sony, but not for the PS3. The PS3 for the purposes of SW is the direct competitor of the 360, not the PS2, as SW arguments are inter-generational, not cross-generational. What is the point of this thread? How does ANY of this help the PS3 or hurt the 360?
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#120 bezaire2005
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[QUOTE="bezaire2005"]

[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"][QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"][QUOTE="Episode_Eve"][QUOTE="ginazswordsman"]Anyone care to explain the point of this thread? One is a hack and slash game and the other is a shooter and a whole generation apart.

And reviewers rate games according to their own generation, not accross generations. So that score does not compare to any next gen games. It only compares to other PS2 games and games from last gen.

I'm new here so forgive me for asking but are such threads common? ( you know, ignorant )

If they are somebody just say so and I'll just ignore them from here on out.
Episode_Eve

Considering your logic (which I don't disagree with). GoW 2 has more standards to live up to since the PS2 is 7 years old with hundreds of more games and dozens of other great games in the same genre (including a AAA predecessor) .

Wrong. Read Gamespot's "read about our ratings system." Every game is reviewed according to the console it is on. Imagine if a game came out on gameboy colour and got a 9.7 - by your logic that makes it better than gears of war. Of course not. That's nonsense. It just means that on it's respective platform, it does good things to push the hardware, and it's a great game in that genre for that particular system.

Lol, wow. You just reiterated what I said exactly. Perhaps you misinterpreted it...I said that God or War 2 has alot of standards to live up to on PS2 considering the consoles age and the hundreds of other great games that are on the system. Not only is it related to other great games, but also God of War (1). I said GoW 2 has more standards to live up (VS. Gears on 360) to because of the age and extensive library that the PS2 has.

No, he didn't reiterated what you said at all. You are saying that the standards are high because the ps2 has been out longer and there have been so many games released. He is saying (and is supported by the GS rules statement) that it's a bad comparison because 360 games are based on more of a strict criteria than ps2 games. A 10/10 in graphics on the ps2 is not the same as a 10/10 in graphics on the 360, and reviewers have to expect 360 games to look better because of the updated hardware.

-Lot's of games were released for the gamecube, and madden 06 scored a 8.1, does that mean that madden 06 on the gamecube is superior to the 2007 versions on the 360/ps3? By your logic, since many more games were relesaed on the gamecube over the 360/ps3, the gamecube game was judged on higher standards and therefore is the best game? Doesn't make sense to me.

I'm not just talking about MORE games. I'm talking about more AAA/ AA games. Especially the genre standards that each system has. I'm not going into whether which will be/ is a better game because they are totally different. But considering that GoW was received by critics with AAA scores world wide...I think it's very impressive for GoW 2 to be doing so well. It could have turned out to be "another hack-n-slash we've come to expect" but that's not the case. The game is awesome.

Even still, by talking about "more AAA/AA games", you haven't changed the concept at all.  Gcube has more AAA/AA games than the 360,  is madden 06 on gcube still better than madden 07 on the 360/ps3?  nope.   Standards increase with each next generation.

your individual opinion on GOW2 makes sense, it's when others start comparing it to 360's gears of war and saying that somehow lemmings got owned because GOW2 outscored all of the 360's library (keep in mind, all of the ps3's library as well) that things get stupid.

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#121 greenleaflink
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umm... god of war 2 has 8 reviews to early to tell. remember zelda? # 2 game of all time on gamerankings, now its not even in the top 10 let all the dust settle
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#122 jaysin1414
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And the funny thing is, most 360 owners probably have a ps2..MTBare

True that.

I'll get God of War 2 and never have to even worry about wasting $600 on the POS3