God of War: Ascension 'Bros Before Hoes' Woman-Hating Controversy

This is a big deal why?    God of War III had a section where a woman died in a horrible fashion in Posiden's Chamber so Kratos could keep a door open.    God of War has never been a series that is trying to push forward the idea of treating women as anything more than sex objects for Kratos to conquer during his adventures.   About the only woman that gets any respect in the series was his own wife and Athena.  

And to be honest, this is not really that far from how women were really treated in ancient greece.   Granted, God of War kinda plays things up, but if anyone is expecting equal rights in a game series based on Ancient Greece with a hero who kills virtually everything that crosses his path, than people really need to find better things to focus on.

I'm not saying its right, but people are taking this a bit far.   Instead of focusing on the treatment of virtual woman in a video game based on Greek Mythology, why don't we devote our time and resources to helping real woman who might have problems?

By the way, it turns out that this is gotten from doing it to a female monster.  So we're not even talking about an innocent woman.  Did he even play God of War III?   Has he played any on the previous games?   And yeah, the trophy is an imature joke.    But its not given after Kratos brutally kills an innocent human woman.  He gets it for killing a monster from greek mythology.

One other thing I want to note.   A trophy was given in God of War III for shoving Posiden's Princess into a gear and using her as a door stop.   She dies in a horrible fashion and unlike the fury, she was a normal human who was innocent and had done nothing wrong whithin the context of the storyline.

And this is the part where none of this makes any sense.  It's suddenly a bad thing and horribly sexist to get a trophy called "Bros Before Hoes" for stomping a female monster's head that was a clear enemy to Kratos.  But where was everyone when Kratos shoved an innocent woman into a gear and got a trophy called "I dind't do it... But I wish I did?"    Out of anything, that was the one thing in the series that make me squirm and think that the developers had gone too far.  

But that's my issue.  It's a horrible double standard.   Kratos basically has his biggest **** moment in the series by killing an innocent woman to open a door after dragging her around and putting her in mortal danger, and I don't remember anyone making a fuss about it.  But Kratos stomps the head of female monster who had helped torture him and its suddenly the worst example of sexism in gaming history.   Did Adam Sessler or any of the other people rasiing a fuss play God of War III?  

This is a big deal why?    God of War III had a section where a woman died in a horrible fashion in Posiden's Chamber so Kratos could keep a door open.

caryslan2

Ugh, I hate that scene. 

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This is a big deal why?    God of War III had a section where a woman died in a horrible fashion in Posiden's Chamber so Kratos could keep a door open.

JangoWuzHere

Ugh, I hate that scene. 

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This is a big deal why?    God of War III had a section where a woman died in a horrible fashion in Posiden's Chamber so Kratos could keep a door open.

JangoWuzHere

Ugh, I hate that scene. 

Me too, it was a horrible scene that was not needed and served no purpose besides making Kratos look like an even bigger **** hole.  They could have easily made it where an enemy could have jammed the gear.   Instead, we had to drag around an innocent woman who was no threat to Kratos and who had done nothing wrong to him.   It was the first time the series where I really thought they went too far.  At least Hermes and Helios had their deaths coming to them.  Hell, most of the people Kratos killed kinda had it coming to them by either provoking him or attacking him.   Even Hera's death did not bother me since she kinda pushed Kratos' beserk button.

But the Princess thing bothered me and made me sick.   She was not insulting Kratos, she was not trying to kill him, and she was not a threat.  Why the need to kill her is such a horrible fashion?

My mom is a woman and I'm offended.

What I got out of this is that none of the content Sessler found offensive, but rather the trophy name. Dumb, if you ask me.

My mom is a woman and I'm offended.

Wiimotefan

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This is a big deal why?    God of War III had a section where a woman died in a horrible fashion in Posiden's Chamber so Kratos could keep a door open.

JangoWuzHere

Ugh, I hate that scene. 

I honestly forgot about that scene. Now that i see it again I remember going "that was messed up" then complety was like oh well.

Boycott Sony they are making a war on Women! :x

I half agree with Sessler. I feel if he wanted to make a case for misogyny, then he should point at the abundance of sex minigames with voluptuous women. His case is just kind of nit-picky. I do agree though that the low humor of the trophy causes the serious tone of the scene to become ineffective. I don't think anyone would really care how it "portrays women" I don't think the common person (women included) would even notice/make a big deal of it to be honest. 

I'd also like to say that the trophy name doesn't really make any sense. Who is the Bro that Kratos is putting before this "Hoe"? If they wanted witty, I feel any curve stop/face stomping trophy should be entitled 'kick her to the curb'.

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My mom is a woman and I'm offended.

TheWalkingGhost

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This is a big deal why?    God of War III had a section where a woman died in a horrible fashion in Posiden's Chamber so Kratos could keep a door open.

PannicAtack

Ugh, I hate that scene. 

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My mom is a woman and I'm offended.

RyanShazam

[QUOTE="RyanShazam"][QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"]I guess that explains the Nintendo fandom...All your mom will let you play. TheWalkingGhost

[QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"][QUOTE="RyanShazam"] Dumb comment is dumb.RyanShazam

Hahaha that is fantastic.
Oh no anti-women content in God Of War the game with a dude who kills everything because he's so angry.

How is that a problem.

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[QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"]Grow up and stop sticking your childish nature where it isn't wanted. Also learn to take a joke, may make you looks less stupid. (Odds are Wiimotefan saw it as a joke)TheWalkingGhost

I didn't see an answer to this but did Red Dead Redemption cause a stir when you got a trophy/achievment for hog tying a nun to some train tracks and having a train run over her?

The game is based on greek mythology, so anything goes.PSP107

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Ugh, I hate that scene. 

DarkLink77

The only person that had a problem with it was Sessler right? It is not much of a controversy, It is just one male that is pretty girly himself having a problem with it.CanYouDiglt

I don't understand why they are making a big deal out of this, all the crazy things Kratos does in this game and a trophy name and killing a woman is what sets people off? 

Chris_Williams

Betcha this thread is a total sausage fest. :\

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This is a big deal why?    God of War III had a section where a woman died in a horrible fashion in Posiden's Chamber so Kratos could keep a door open.

caryslan2

Ugh, I hate that scene. 

Me too, it was a horrible scene that was not needed and served no purpose besides making Kratos look like an even bigger **** hole.  They could have easily made it where an enemy could have jammed the gear.   Instead, we had to drag around an innocent woman who was no threat to Kratos and who had done nothing wrong to him.   It was the first time the series where I really thought they went too far.  At least Hermes and Helios had their deaths coming to them.  Hell, most of the people Kratos killed kinda had it coming to them by either provoking him or attacking him.   Even Hera's death did not bother me since she kinda pushed Kratos' berserk button.

But the Princess thing bothered me and made me sick.   She was not insulting Kratos, she was not trying to kill him, and she was not a threat.  Why the need to kill her is such a horrible fashion?  It did nothing more than make Kratos look like an even bigger dick.   Its one thing to be blinded by revenge and not care if the world burned, but its another to drag an inncoent woman around, put her in mortal danger, and then kill her in a horrible fashion.

It was not needed in the game.  A generic enemy could have served the same purpose.   Hell, even they had wanted to establish Kratos as an **** they had already done eariler in the game.

Betcha this forum and entire board is a total sausage fest. :\

wakefulness

stuff like that is not even needed in the game, i also find it stupid, but then again its aimed at those who have no women in their life.

I didn't see an answer to this but did Red Dead Redemption cause a stir when you got a trophy/achievment for hog tying a nun to some train tracks and having a train run over her?

RyanShazam

I would have supported his claims but Kratos has been recognized as a douchebag so it doesnt matter

I like violence towards women and its only game so who cares

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Betcha this forum and entire board is a total sausage fest. :\

skrat_01

Oh, that's not true. I know like 2 woman who frequent the GS forum and SW boards. :)

GoW games have been dude-bro right from the start, I don't see what's the problem here, falls in line with what you can expect from the game...

Just someone blowing hot air over nothing... that's the Internet for you! ;)

lol

In the last God of War games you bang several woman, sometimes even more than one at a time. After that you ripp off a bare-chested Medusa's head.
And now suddenly, this is a problem :roll:

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Betcha this forum and entire board is a total sausage fest. :\

wakefulness

Oh, that's not true. I know like 2 woman who frequent the GS forum and SW boards. :)

Am I missing something?

Silverbond

GoW games have been dude-bro right from the start, I don't see what's the problem here, falls in line with what you can expect from the game...

Just someone blowing hot air over nothing... that's the Internet for you! ;)

Rocker6

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GoW games have been dude-bro right from the start, I don't see what's the problem here, falls in line with what you can expect from the game...

Just someone blowing hot air over nothing... that's the Internet for you! ;)

skrat_01

Yeah, a good point, should've noted that. As you said, it did good job with tragedy theme (there's a good Extra Credits vid on that topic), but in GoW 2&3, it's all watered down and abandoned, both games are "WAAAAAH! ANGRY KRATOS KILL!!!!"

They're really fun games, but Kratos becomes a caricature of a sort, it's all about mindless killing and violence... making a transition into the "dude-bro" territory...

I like violence towards women and its only game so who cares

Zurrur

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I like violence towards women and its only game so who cares

Zaibach

I doubt he's serious :P

Not seeing a problem here

[QUOTE="RyanShazam"]

I didn't see an answer to this but did Red Dead Redemption cause a stir when you got a trophy/achievment for hog tying a nun to some train tracks and having a train run over her?

GrayF0X786

I find it hilarious that some people are totally over-looking the fact that it's not a woman that Kratos beats the crap out of.It is a deity with friggen claws coming out of it that looks female. And I'm pretty sure there is some context to the achievment that people will understand once it's released and played.

If women want equal rights that bad, they should be able to take an ass kicking as well as any man.

OH yeah, lets make this thread go places people.

ReadingRainbow4

I think Sessler is overreacting.

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If women want equal rights that bad, they should be able to take an ass kicking as well as any man.

OH yeah, lets make this thread go places people.

dreman999

...Because it fits this topic no matterhow you look at it.