[QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="Birdy09"] No not at all, but I'm willing to bet nostalgia plays a very heavy role for ALOT of people in hyping blizzard games up to high heaven, even though its sequals to 10 year old games, of which alot of the studios have changed since then.... hell WoW is not what it was originally intended to be either. I know I know, Blizzard like to make sure thier products are quality "when its done its done" PR rubbish, yet they take so long for these graphically outdated games that the bulk of its content wouldnt take as long as some already existing games this generation. I could write an essay on why this applies to WoW heavily. but no. and how thier marketing works wonders on the "Halo 3 fans, MW2 Fans, Apple Fans" equivilants, you know, those people that most PC Gamers scoff at for liking "these casual trashy games" ... and yet Diablo and WoW get a free pass despite being incredible casual in thier genres. Not aimed at you, since I havnt seen you do it, but I love the free passes Blizzard and Valve get in the PC community. Valve... ok alittle more justified... Blizzard are just pretty much "Activision" (not litterally, metaphorically).
Birdy09
Diablo and WOW are casual games in an extreamly hardcore genre...especially WOW. Nor would I even begin to call such a complex game as WOW ever "casual." And Diablo pretty much invented the genre its in.
There is a reason that people still play all the blizzard games today, because Blizzard's game are more then flashy graphics
WoW is in a very "Hardcore" genre (im not labeling it a niche genre, since its the most popular and played in the world but still.) ... but its the "Halo" or "MW2 or "Wii" of its genre.... the streamlined to the point where its more about instant gratification than a challenging achievement that apperently everyone around here craves so much. Hell you just have to see the difference between Classic WoW and WOTLK... or if youve been keeping up to make it even worse Catacalysm.... everything mainstreamed to a ridiculous level. I bet they will have Miyimatos approach soon ... "Virtual Level Selection Hub is too difficult for some users" yup, im honestly suprized you cant purchase a lvl 80 character yet, or just select what level your character creates at.... its nearly sunk that low, but not quite there yet huh Blizzard? In WOTLK theyve removed any kind of ladder in PvE.... at least the difficulty ladder, the pinnata ladder is there in full swing.By reading the info on cataclysm they are actually making the game more challenging because WOTLK was just simply easy mode (especially in the healing department) except for Heroic lich king, which I haven't done but I've done him normal and even that in itself is a challenge. Wow is still pretty hard, but the non heroic/heroic versions of instances make it seem not so. Before everyone had to do heroic mode, blizzard has just given an easier setting for the less skilled, all they have done is expanded the demograph and allowed more people to play. I agree this is caused the trend of instant gratification and people don't want to put effort into doing anything but hopefully from the changes I've seen from a design standpoint cataclysm should be alot more of a challenge.
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