Goldeneye Wont Come to XBL Due to Money $$

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#1 kirk4ever
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sry if its been posted..

Rumors suggest that Golden Eye won't be coming to XBLA even though it was just 2 months away from completion. A source claims that Microsoft and Nintendo couldn't agree on the financial details.

"The GoldenEye port has been in development at Rare for several months, and was never intended as a remake. The XBLA version would have featured the same graphics, maps and weapons from the N64 version, but with the crucial addition of online multiplayer over Xbox Live. Several characters wouldn't make the cut due to licensing issues with certain actors.

Unfortunately, the reason GoldenEye for XBLA died came down to money. Our source close to Rare said the conversion was a mere two months from completion, but Microsoft and Nintendo couldn't agree on the financial side of things. The point of contention, as our source puts it: would Nintendo receive a one-time fee for the rights to the game, or a continuing cut of the XBLA revenues? The latter seems to make sense for everyone, but apparently it wasn't that easy."

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#2 onewiththegame
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I dont think I would play it even if it did, with all the other great fps out
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#4 YoshiFan123
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So if it comes out on XBLA, it will come out on VC? Also I heard that if Nintendo doesn't change anything in the game if it comes out on VC, then microsoft can't change anything but that was a rumor a long time ago.
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#5 dlind70
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Nintendo isn't used to this kind of business and upgrades to their former games. VC ports aren't updated with online, etc. and so they are dumbfounded when it comes this transaction. Should they stick with a cut and dry payment for the game's rights versus the more unrealistic continuing cut of the XBLA revenues? It's all money and legality tied up in the process and prevents us from reliving those paintball frag matches. :(

Also, I'm pretty sure Goldeneye could never come to the VC as Rare Ltd. (owned by Microsoft) were the developers.

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#7 -platy-
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i heard that last week, that they pulled the plug the last minute
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#8 elektrixxx
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Nintendo is being stubborn because their games are lousyFreewayScruff

Game Of The Year and top three highest rated games of all time tell a different story.

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#9 SER69
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Way to go Nintendo!
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#10 dlind70
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[QUOTE="FreewayScruff"]Nintendo is being stubborn because their games are lousyelektrixxx

Game Of The Year and top three highest rated games of all time tell a different story.

I fear these kinds of comments will take this thread OFF TOPIC. :(

Back to the Big-Head frag matches! :)

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#12 pro-nathan-07
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damn u nintendo ! ** shakes fist in anger **
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#13 Impex
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Not a big deal to me. I already have it on my N64. Don't need to buy it again.
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#14 GodLovesDead
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Not a big deal to me. I already have it on my N64. Don't need to buy it again.Impex

XBL + Goldeneye = Heaven. You're just in denial.

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#15 Impex
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[QUOTE="Impex"]Not a big deal to me. I already have it on my N64. Don't need to buy it again.GodLovesDead

XBL + Goldeneye = Heaven. You're just in denial.

I've moved on.

Btw, don't tell me I'm in denial. I played that game to death, but I get past a point where going back to old games just isn't fun.

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#16 tomarlyn
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Damn you Nintendo, first you stop Halo DS now this.

Not a big deal to me. I already have it on my N64. Don't need to buy it again.Impex

Correct, but the N64 version has aged terrible and is barely playable. This would be a remake to bring it up to snuff, it has all the right ingredients.

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#17 Willy105
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Instead of not releasing it at all, couldn't they just release it for XBLA and Virtual Console at the same time?

Everybody wins, instead of everybody losing.

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#18 Willy105
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Damn you Nintendo, first you stop Halo DS now this.

tomarlyn

Didn't Microsoft stop Halo DS, not Nintendo?

I have no idea.

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#20 lolag
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Instead of not releasing it at all, couldn't they just release it for XBLA and Virtual Console at the same time?

Everybody wins, instead of everybody losing.

Willy105
thinking of the same thing
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#21 Dante2710
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cant say im surprise......im pretty sure Nintendo wants Goldeneye for the service...not microsoft`s
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#22 Lazy_Boy88
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I dont think I would play it even if it did, with all the other great fps outonewiththegame

I dunno with dual analog control Goldeneye kicks the crap out of most modern generic trash. At least worth a shot.

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#23 tomarlyn
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[QUOTE="tomarlyn"]

Damn you Nintendo, first you stop Halo DS now this.

Willy105

Didn't Microsoft stop Halo DS, not Nintendo?

I have no idea.

From what I read it was because of Nintendo's ''ego'' or something like that.

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#24 gromit007
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Aren't Rare and MS the reasons why Goldeneye wont come to the VC?

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#25 PhoebusFlows
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I really wanted this to come out for years

It would've been better on XBL and people know it.

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#26 Nintendo_Ownes7
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Aren't Rare and MS the reasons why Goldeneye wont come to the VC?

gromit007
Actually since Activision has the Bond License Activision only wants it on the VC because they are trying to gain Strong ties with Nintendo, if it was Activisions choice since they have the Bond License they said they would Choose Nintendo over Microsoft.
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#27 beast667
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oh noez, an n64 game that i still own wont be rereleased for more than i could get it for on ebay! :o

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#28 Wanderer5
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Instead of not releasing it at all, couldn't they just release it for XBLA and Virtual Console at the same time?

Everybody wins, instead of everybody losing.

Willy105

Yep that what they should do.

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#29 PhoebusFlows
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[QUOTE="gromit007"]

Aren't Rare and MS the reasons why Goldeneye wont come to the VC?

Nintendo_Ownes7

Actually since Activision has the Bond License Activision only wants it on the VC because they are trying to gain Strong ties with Nintendo, if it was Activisions choice since they have the Bond License they said they would Choose Nintendo over Microsoft.

Where did they say that? You have a link or are you guessing?

I'll have you know Activision has made 10x more money on Xbox 360 than on Wii. Why would Activision choose Nintendo here?

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#30 meetroid8
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We'll just have to see what happens.
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[QUOTE="Nintendo_Ownes7"][QUOTE="gromit007"]

Aren't Rare and MS the reasons why Goldeneye wont come to the VC?

PhoebusFlows

Actually since Activision has the Bond License Activision only wants it on the VC because they are trying to gain Strong ties with Nintendo, if it was Activisions choice since they have the Bond License they said they would Choose Nintendo over Microsoft.

Where did they say that? You have a link or are you guessing?

I'll have you know Activision has made 10x more money on Xbox 360 than on Wii. Why would Activision choose Nintendo here?

I don't know what I said is probably False I was thinking about deleting my post then I figured I wouldn't delete it because I heard it somewhere I just forget where I heard it from but I don't really care which it would go to because I will play it no matter what, also the fact that Activision made alot more money on 360 then Wii that is because they only made 5 games that I can remember for the Wii, when they made like 30 games for the 360 (That might be an exageration)
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#32 Riverwolf007
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Why is Nintendo catching hell for this here? It looks like all they want is a cut of Goldeneyes profit instead of a one time licensing fee.

That sounds fair to me.

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#33 EmilioDigsIt
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How does Nintendo even own any part of this game?
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How does Nintendo even own any part of this game?EmilioDigsIt
They have Publishing rights since they Published it on the N64.
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Damn you Nintendo, first you stop Halo DS now this.

[QUOTE="Impex"]Not a big deal to me. I already have it on my N64. Don't need to buy it again.tomarlyn

Correct, but the N64 version has aged terrible and is barely playable. This would be a remake to bring it up to snuff, it has all the right ingredients.

Ok I admit I didnt' read the actual articile, just the TC's post.. but did you read EITHER of them? It would be a direct port with the original graphics of the N64 on your blessid Xbox 360 .. with added online.. THATS IT.
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#36 X_Evo
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Why is Nintendo catching hell for this here? It looks like all they want is a cut of Goldeneyes profit instead of a one time licensing fee.

That sounds fair to me.

Riverwolf007

Indeed .. but the lems have to blaim someone.. god knows it can't be M$ :roll:

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[QUOTE="EmilioDigsIt"]How does Nintendo even own any part of this game?Nintendo_Ownes7
They have Publishing rights since they Published it on the N64.


Ah, right right.
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#38 Zhengi
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Why is Nintendo catching hell for this here? It looks like all they want is a cut of Goldeneyes profit instead of a one time licensing fee.

That sounds fair to me.

Riverwolf007

Yup. Seems like this should be the case since they were a part of making Goldeneye happen in the first place. If MS wants to come in and profit for something some other company made, then they need to pay for it.

Also, no surprise that most replies are against Nintendo since most people in SW are MS fanboys.

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[QUOTE="Nintendo_Ownes7"][QUOTE="EmilioDigsIt"]How does Nintendo even own any part of this game?EmilioDigsIt
They have Publishing rights since they Published it on the N64.


Ah, right right.

yeah too bad they didnt publish CBFD :(
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i think Microsoft had a bottomless pit of money?

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#41 tomarlyn
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[QUOTE="tomarlyn"]

Damn you Nintendo, first you stop Halo DS now this.

[QUOTE="Impex"]Not a big deal to me. I already have it on my N64. Don't need to buy it again.dotWithShoes

Correct, but the N64 version has aged terrible and is barely playable. This would be a remake to bring it up to snuff, it has all the right ingredients.

Ok I admit I didnt' read the actual articile, just the TC's post.. but did you read EITHER of them? It would be a direct port with the original graphics of the N64 on your blessid Xbox 360 .. with added online.. THATS IT.

At least the controls wouldn't feel as clunky, and I'd be surprised if they didn't enhance it. Goldeneye is a blurry mess with a terrible framerate by todays standards.

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Damn you Nintendo, first you stop Halo DS now this.

[QUOTE="Impex"]Not a big deal to me. I already have it on my N64. Don't need to buy it again.tomarlyn

Correct, but the N64 version has aged terrible and is barely playable. This would be a remake to bring it up to snuff, it has all the right ingredients.

Nintendo stopped Halo DS? (I seriously don't know anything about its development)

Also... it "was never intended as a remake. The XBLA version would have featured the same graphics, maps and weapons from the N64 version."

But it would still be awesome like that IMO.

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#43 -Sniper99-
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I don't really care. Goldeneye was revolutionary for its time. But now it would just suck:|
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#44 Relys
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**** this ****!

I just want the **** game!

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#45 deactivated-5e0e425ee91d8
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this is stupid, they should juat make it come out on VC and XBLA...with BOTH having online multiplayer
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#46 badgert
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I hope this still comes out.
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#47 Relys
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this is stupid, they should juat make it come out on VC and XBLA...with BOTH having online multiplayerdarkspineslayer

Pish, if there's no graphical difference, I would totally get the Wii version. If they decided to upgrade the visuals, I would probably get the XBLA version.

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#48 AntiType
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Anyone please correct me if im wrong.

Nintendo OWNS Goldeneye... they have the rights to it. They payed Rare to Dev it.

Nintendo can do anything it wants with that code (game). they do not need any permission from the current Bond license owner for a game they own.

Rare is entitled to REMAKE their games like conker on xbox... but they cant do that with Goldeneye without the Bond License.

So why does Nintendo need to work something out with MS/Rare to get Goldeneye on VC? Does that fact that they would have to modify the code to make it work on the Wii have anything to do with it?>

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#49 Relys
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Anyone please correct me if im wrong.

Nintendo OWNS Goldeneye... they have the rights to it. They payed Rare to Dev it.

Nintendo can do anything it wants with that code (game). they do not need any permission from the current Bond license owner for a game they own.

Rare is entitled to REMAKE their games like conker on xbox... but they cant do that with Goldeneye without the Bond License.

So why does Nintendo need to work something out with MS/Rare to get Goldeneye on VC? Does that fact that they would have to modify the code to make it work on the Wii have anything to do with it?>

AntiType

Nintendo doesn't own ****. The Bond licence is being currently buggered by EA. I'm pretty sure Rare still owns the rights to it's own game.

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#50 Wanderer5
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[QUOTE="AntiType"]

Anyone please correct me if im wrong.

Nintendo OWNS Goldeneye... they have the rights to it. They payed Rare to Dev it.

Nintendo can do anything it wants with that code (game). they do not need any permission from the current Bond license owner for a game they own.

Rare is entitled to REMAKE their games like conker on xbox... but they cant do that with Goldeneye without the Bond License.

So why does Nintendo need to work something out with MS/Rare to get Goldeneye on VC? Does that fact that they would have to modify the code to make it work on the Wii have anything to do with it?>

Relys

Nintendo doesn't own ****. The Bond licence is being currently buggered by EA. I'm pretty sure Rare still owns the rights to it's own game.

Actually the Bond licence is now own by Activision.