Good graphics....on PS3? look again....

Whilst playing KZ 2 and initially being impressed, I could not help but noticing it hardly looks high def even tho it allegedly renders in 720p....hmm.

Why is this? Well, has no one else noticed that anything more than a couple of feet in front of your face is reduced to a low poly count model with the textures being nothing more than a blob of colour (if you want to call grey a colour that is). Im sure this may look ok on an old school standard def TV however, playing it on a 46"Bravia is not a pleasing experience. It was hyped up to be the graphics champion of this generation and was the one reason my ps3 did not find a new home in bin months ago. Im disappointed that it has turned out to be horrible looking grey mess with a bunch of cheap motion blur and explosion tricks thrown in.

This seems to be a recurring theme with PS3 exclusives.

Uncharted and Heavenly Sword are also guilty of using these techniques. Motorstorm is a pretty terrible looking game, again covered up with tonnes of motion blur. Resistance 2......well it does not even try to hide it's poor graphics, but at least it is consistant.

I know a lot of other games use these kind of visual tricks but normally to a far less noticable extent. Anyway, the point is Killzone is not the best looking game around by a long shot and should not even be compared to the likes of Gears 2 or Crysis. I have lost all faith in ps3 and have no doubt in my mind that it will never exceed x360 in terms of graphics, anyone who believes otherwise is living in dreamland.

http://www.gamespot.com/features/6171831/index.html all you need to see to know ps3>360. look at the lines on the road for the ps3, and how far away they extend to. on the 360 they are non existant 3 meters in front of you lmao.WutTimeIsIt

Prepare for a lot of fanboys flaming you i personally think both 360 and ps3 have amazing looking games.TX360

What you are talking about is LOD (Level of Detail). Many games have this, not just PS3 games.Rikusaki

I love it when people say "they are hiding the graphics with the 'tricks' such as motion blurring, different lighting effects, etc." I think it's hilarious, because motion blurring is a pretty complex graphical process, and KZ2 uses highly advanced techniques (not tricks), to make some great effects.dream431ca

Killzone 2's demo does nothing for me as far as textures. The graphics are there as far as physics and characters were right on the money. I'll wait until the shipped copies get in before passing judgement on it.

Whilst playing KZ 2 and initially being impressed, I could not help but noticing it hardly looks high def even tho it allegedly renders in 720p....hmm.

Why is this? Well, has no one else noticed that anything more than a couple of feet in front of your face is reduced to a low poly count model with the textures being nothing more than a blob of colour (if you want to call grey a colour that is). Im sure this may look ok on an old school standard def TV however, playing it on a 46"Bravia is not a pleasing experience. It was hyped up to be the graphics champion of this generation and was the one reason my ps3 did not find a new home in bin months ago. Im disappointed that it has turned out to be horrible looking grey mess with a bunch of cheap motion blur and explosion tricks thrown in.

This seems to be a recurring theme with PS3 exclusives.

Uncharted and Heavenly Sword are also guilty of using these techniques. Motorstorm is a pretty terrible looking game, again covered up with tonnes of motion blur. Resistance 2......well it does not even try to hide it's poor graphics, but at least it is consistant.

I know a lot of other games use these kind of visual tricks but normally to a far less noticable extent. Anyway, the point is Killzone is not the best looking game around by a long shot and should not even be compared to the likes of Gears 2 or Crysis. I have lost all faith in ps3 and have no doubt in my mind that it will never exceed x360 in terms of graphics, anyone who believes otherwise is living in dreamland.

thepantmachine

KZ2 looks amazing!! Maybe your Bravia isnt set properly. Maybe you should try using a HDMI cable instead of the composite that the PS3 came with!

I don't believe you have a Ps3.

Picture please?

KZ2 is the best looking game on consoles. Hundreds of sites have said so, and it's agreed upon here at SW.

???

You're just nitpicking TC.

I would recommend, NOT sticking TOO close to your HDTV, as definitely no matter how you say "so i could see how the textures are" BS, they are unnoticable during gametime.

according to the reviews (ign, GT) its graphics are no better than geow2GTR_FX

I believe it does look better than Gears of War 2. The textures sure dont though.

according to the reviews (ign, GT) its graphics are no better than geow2GTR_FX

[QUOTE="GTR_FX"]according to the reviews (ign, GT) its graphics are no better than geow2IIJuggaNottII

I believe it does look better than Gears of War 2. The textures sure dont though.

[QUOTE="GTR_FX"]according to the reviews (ign, GT) its graphics are no better than geow2joopyme

while i was reading your post i knew there was going to be a hint on why you bashing KZ2, at the end you mentioned geow2, lol,

You must be one really pissed off xbot that finaly relized the true power of ps3.

while i was reading your post i knew there was going to be a hint on why you bashing KZ2, at the end you mentioned geow2, lol,

You must be one really pissed off xbot that finaly relized the true power of ps3.

[QUOTE="GTR_FX"]according to the reviews (ign, GT) its graphics are no better than geow2IIJuggaNottII

I believe it does look better than Gears of War 2. The textures sure dont though.

some texture in the demo were really good

[QUOTE="IIJuggaNottII"]

[QUOTE="GTR_FX"]according to the reviews (ign, GT) its graphics are no better than geow2urdead18

I believe it does look better than Gears of War 2. The textures sure dont though.

KILLZOWNED!!! People that played GEARS2 and KZ2 know KZ2 Killzowned GEARS2 in textures and everything else. Play the demo go to the water at the beach before you suppose to climb up with GARZA and look at the ground and water textures IT UTTERLY DESTROYS GEARS2. Crysis can only compare and i think KZ2 looks better than Crysis personally but not by much.

[QUOTE="IIJuggaNottII"]

[QUOTE="GTR_FX"]according to the reviews (ign, GT) its graphics are no better than geow2ps3_owns_360Wii

I believe it does look better than Gears of War 2. The textures sure dont though.

some texture in the demo were really good

GEARS2 textures dont even blow Dark Sector away. KZ2's textures are on a another level except in cover lol. Look at the ground and walls in KZ2. GEARS2 looks like crap compared to KZ2..

[QUOTE="ps3_owns_360Wii"][QUOTE="IIJuggaNottII"]

I believe it does look better than Gears of War 2. The textures sure dont though.

Gamersince81

some texture in the demo were really good

GEARS2 textures dont even blow Dark Sector away. KZ2's textures are on a another level except in cover lol. Look at the ground and walls in KZ2. GEARS2 looks like crap compared to KZ2..

Don't push it.:|

[QUOTE="urdead18"][QUOTE="IIJuggaNottII"]

I believe it does look better than Gears of War 2. The textures sure dont though.

Gamersince81

KILLZOWNED!!! People that played GEARS2 and KZ2 know KZ2 Killzowned GEARS2 in textures and everything else. Play the demo go to the water at the beach before you suppose to climb up with GARZA and look at the ground and water textures IT UTTERLY DESTROYS GEARS2. Crysis can only compare and i think KZ2 looks better than Crysis personally but not by much.

Whilst playing KZ 2 and initially being impressed, I could not help but noticing it hardly looks high def even tho it allegedly renders in 720p....hmm.

Why is this? Well, has no one else noticed that anything more than a couple of feet in front of your face is reduced to a low poly count model with the textures being nothing more than a blob of colour (if you want to call grey a colour that is). Im sure this may look ok on an old school standard def TV however, playing it on a 46"Bravia is not a pleasing experience. It was hyped up to be the graphics champion of this generation and was the one reason my ps3 did not find a new home in bin months ago. Im disappointed that it has turned out to be horrible looking grey mess with a bunch of cheap motion blur and explosion tricks thrown in.

This seems to be a recurring theme with PS3 exclusives.

Uncharted and Heavenly Sword are also guilty of using these techniques. Motorstorm is a pretty terrible looking game, again covered up with tonnes of motion blur. Resistance 2......well it does not even try to hide it's poor graphics, but at least it is consistant.

I know a lot of other games use these kind of visual tricks but normally to a far less noticable extent. Anyway, the point is Killzone is not the best looking game around by a long shot and should not even be compared to the likes of Gears 2 or Crysis. I have lost all faith in ps3 and have no doubt in my mind that it will never exceed x360 in terms of graphics, anyone who believes otherwise is living in dreamland.

thepantmachine

KILLZOWNED!!! People that played GEARS2 and KZ2 know KZ2 Killzowned GEARS2 in textures and everything else. Play the demo go to the water at the beach before you suppose to climb up with GARZA and look at the ground and water textures IT UTTERLY DESTROYS GEARS2. Crysis can only compare and i think KZ2 looks better than Crysis personally but not by much.

I don't believe you have a Ps3.

Picture please?

KZ2 is the best looking game on consoles. Hundreds of sites have said so, and it's agreed upon here at SW.

urdead18

TC, can I see a picture of your Ps3 + TV with the Killzone 2 demo on the XMB please? urdead18

I love it when people say "they are hiding the graphics with the 'tricks' such as motion blurring, different lighting effects, etc." I think it's hilarious, because motion blurring is a pretty complex graphical process, and KZ2 uses highly advanced techniques (not tricks), to make some great effects.dream431ca

The TC is entitled to his opinion... and so am I.

In my opinion, your statement is completely wrong.

[QUOTE="urdead18"][QUOTE="IIJuggaNottII"]

I believe it does look better than Gears of War 2. The textures sure dont though.

Gamersince81

KILLZOWNED!!! People that played GEARS2 and KZ2 know KZ2 Killzowned GEARS2 in textures and everything else. Play the demo go to the water at the beach before you suppose to climb up with GARZA and look at the ground and water textures IT UTTERLY DESTROYS GEARS2. Crysis can only compare and i think KZ2 looks better than Crysis personally but not by much.

Its nice to pull up sites that say that it looks better, but I dont think that the Killzone "DEMO" looks better. It is Just a demo, when the finished product arrives I'll see then. I'm playing on a Sony Bravia w/HDMI and Gears Textures wipes it out in my opinion....but it IS just a DEMO.

What you are talking about is LOD (Level of Detail). Many games have this, not just PS3 games.Rikusaki

Actually what you're really talking about is Depth of Field. It's a principle of photography and motion picture, that the focus is either on the background or foreground. You often see a shift, where the focus moves from something farther away to something much closer that you didn't see when it was just a hazy blur (or going in the opposite direction).

The point being, this is a basic principle of visual clarity in the real world, so games incorporate it to add that depth of realism to the graphics.

Whilst playing KZ 2 and initially being impressed, I could not help but noticing it hardly looks high def even tho it allegedly renders in 720p....hmm.

Why is this? Well, has no one else noticed that anything more than a couple of feet in front of your face is reduced to a low poly count model with the textures being nothing more than a blob of colour (if you want to call grey a colour that is). Im sure this may look ok on an old school standard def TV however, playing it on a 46"Bravia is not a pleasing experience. It was hyped up to be the graphics champion of this generation and was the one reason my ps3 did not find a new home in bin months ago. Im disappointed that it has turned out to be horrible looking grey mess with a bunch of cheap motion blur and explosion tricks thrown in.

This seems to be a recurring theme with PS3 exclusives.

Uncharted and Heavenly Sword are also guilty of using these techniques. Motorstorm is a pretty terrible looking game, again covered up with tonnes of motion blur. Resistance 2......well it does not even try to hide it's poor graphics, but at least it is consistant.

I know a lot of other games use these kind of visual tricks but normally to a far less noticable extent. Anyway, the point is Killzone is not the best looking game around by a long shot and should not even be compared to the likes of Gears 2 or Crysis. I have lost all faith in ps3 and have no doubt in my mind that it will never exceed x360 in terms of graphics, anyone who believes otherwise is living in dreamland.

thepantmachine

Played the Demo of Killzone. Honestly liked Gears a whole lot better. Controls seemed way to loose. Graphics seemed pretty good. On par with gears but definitely not better. But this was only the demo. I have learned Demo's always dissapoint me. So I'll wait till I reserve judgement. I can say the reviewers dig it so far.

[QUOTE="dream431ca"]I love it when people say "they are hiding the graphics with the 'tricks' such as motion blurring, different lighting effects, etc." I think it's hilarious, because motion blurring is a pretty complex graphical process, and KZ2 uses highly advanced techniques (not tricks), to make some great effects.The_Game21x

Yeah, amazing how quick they are to validate what once they scoffed as "inferior" :lol::lol:

And stealthknife, please please PLEASE tell me you are not actually referencing SDF as some sort of evidence?:|

Wow great comparison Stealthpant. You really show you know absolutely nothing. Try comparing GEOW2 to Killzone. Oh I guess then you wouldn't be able to brag.