Not trying to flame..I'm trying to help. But, don't you think this topic would've been more appropiate for the UK forums where more people would care? majadamus
There are a lot of people from the UK that post on here.
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[QUOTE="majadamus"]Not trying to flame..I'm trying to help. But, don't you think this topic would've been more appropiate for the UK forums where more people would care? HarlockJC
There are a lot of people from the UK that post on here.
True, but there are probably a lot more over in the UK forums that don't like coming here.
Here's the actual article from The Times.
People who illegally download films and music will be cut off from the internet under new legislative proposals to be unveiled next week.
Internet service providers (ISPs) will be legally required to take action against users who access pirated material, The Times has learnt.
Users suspected of wrongly downloading films or music will receive a warning e-mail for the first offence, a suspension for the second infringement and the termination of their internet contract if caught a third time, under the most likely option to emerge from discussions about the new law.
Broadband companies who fail to enforce the "three-strikes" regime would be prosecuted and suspected customers' details could be made available to the courts. The Government has yet to decide if information on offenders should be shared between ISPs.
Six million broadband users are estimated to download files illegally every year in this country in a practice that music and film companies claim is costing them billions of pounds in lost revenue annually.
Britain's four biggest internet providers – BT, Tiscali, Orange and Virgin Media – have been in talks with Hollywood's biggest studio and distribution companies for six months over a voluntary scheme.
Parallel negotiations between Britain's music industry and individual internet providers have been dragging on for two years.
Major sticking points include who will arbitrate disputed allegations, for example when customers claim to have been the victim of "wi-fi piggybacking", in which users link up to a paid-for wireless network that is not their own. Another outstanding disagreement is how many enforcements the internet companies will be expected to initiate and how quickly warning e-mails would be sent.
International action in the US and France, which is implementing its own "three-strikes" regime, has increased the pressure on British internet companies and stiffened the Government's resolve.
Ministers will make an explicit commitment to legislate with the launch next week of a Green Paper on the creative industries. A draft copy, obtained by The Times, states: "We will move to legislate to require internet service providers to take action on illegal file-sharing." A consultation paper setting out the options is promised within months.
A spokesman for the Internet Service Providers Association said it remained hopeful that agreement over a voluntary agreement could be reached: "Every right-thinking body knows that self-regulation is much the better option in these areas."
Roz Groome, vice-president of antipiracy for NBC Universal, welcomed the prospect of new laws. "We welcome the signal from Government that it values the health of the creative industries and takes seriously the damage caused by widespread online copyright infringement. We call upon ISPs to take action now. They must play their part in the fight against online piracy and work with rights owners to ensure that ISPs' customers do not use their services for illegal activity. Piracy stifles innovation and threatens the long term health of our industry."
Ed Vaizey, the Shadow Arts Minister, said: "David Cameron called on the internet providers to address this issue last summer. The credibility of the Government's latest threat is undermined by the fact that ministers have spent so many years dithering on whether to legislate."
The commitment forms part of a Green Paper on the creative industries entitled The World's Creative Hub to be launched by Andy Burnham, the Culture Secretary, and Gordon Brown next week.
Other high-profile elements include a pledge that children will be entitled to five hours of culture a week overseen by a new youth culture trust. The pledge will give children the right to learn a musical instrument, visit art galleries and museums and even make films.
Other pledges include setting up a new international conference modelled on Davos, entitled the World Creative Economy Forum, and supporting a new £200 million film centre at the South Bank in London. A spokeswoman for the Department for Culture, Media and Sport said: "Early drafts of our creative economy programme document were circulated to stakeholders for comment. The content and proposals for the strategy have been significantly developed since then and a comprehensive plan to bolster the UK's creative industries will be published shortly. We will not comment on the content of the leaked document."
The Times
To say they will be catching downloaders of pirated games, is to say they are looking and monitoring your actions on the internet.. Which imo is a invasion of privacy.sSubZerOo
Its always interesting when someone cries invasion of privacy in order to protect them from being caught breaking the law.
[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"] To say they will be catching downloaders of pirated games, is to say they are looking and monitoring your actions on the internet.. Which imo is a invasion of privacy.cosmostein77
Its always interesting when someone cries invasion of privacy in order to protect them from being caught breaking the law.
interesting how invasion of privacy leads to thought control. I'm no terrorist but i don't want the government tapping my phone without a warrant. but you'd call me one right? :roll:
With such music piracy ,did you see any big company being closed or any singers-bands dont got mansions,cars,lot of $$ at least?
With such gaming piracy,did you see any big company being closed or dont make a profit for 07??
Let em have 3 ferraris from now on instead of 8.There is only one way to stop piracy. Drop the prices of games a lot. Isnt logicall at all 4 games = 1 console price wise. And if you see how many millions selling each month,do the math. I dont see anyone die or dont make some millions profit each year.
Cant they just use a wireless connection from someon elses router if its not locked?EVOLV3Yeah, because that isn't terribly illegal :?
How about the rest of the World? UK is just one tiny little country...
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Thats supposedly full of pirates arrrrrrrrg
[QUOTE="EVOLV3"]Cant they just use a wireless connection from someon elses router if its not locked?JandurinYeah, because that isn't terribly illegal :?
He's right though, it can happen. Innocent people will end up being wrongly accused of pirating games. A WEP encryption can be hacked in a matter of minutes these days. Hell, some routers don't even have encryption - I connected to next door's wifi network by accident once and it worked fine.
Hooray for Big Brother! I hope countries also institute new laws where you must submit your hard drive for weekly checks by a government program.
I'm willing to bet 90% of games that get pirated would've never been purchased, and that's not saying the other 10% would've been purchased at full price. It's amazing that people are willing to give up their privacy for corporations that don't even respect you as a consumer. The PS3 hasn't been hacked and yet its games are still $60, so it's not like we're seeing price breaks due to reduced piracy.
I really hope this works. This is one thing i think the government should actually get into. It is stealing.hoola
Actually, it's not stealing, but copyright infringement (legally.) A download doesn't necessarily equate to a lost sale.
This really isn't going to do much though. Their methodology for detecting game downloads is via a third party; such third parties only monitor BitTorrent traffic from within the swarm itself (as a peer.) Not only are there peer blocklists for such 3rd parties that enter the torrent swarm with the sole purpose of detecting infringing IP addresses (known monitoring firm IPs are even banned from some private trackers,) but there are also a few methods of anonymizing and even encrypting torrent traffic within a swarm..so that it won't even be possible for these third parties to detect and report you to your ISP.
To top that off, BitTorrent isn't the only method of game piracy (just one of the most popular.)
This might discourage a couple casual pirates, but most users of BitTorrent are rather tech-savvy and will quickly find ways around this. Even though I use BitTorrent constantly (mostly for English-fansubbed anime,) I do wish something could be done about game piracy via BitTorrent and other means. This isn't that magic bullet, though..and it's likely to do very little.
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