Google's console 'Titanium' to be more powerful than an XBX. Revealed in 10 days.

Lol another google side project that will fail.

And did you consider last gen people have the same or more purchasing power when we bring inflation into account? Even apart from that consoles weren't cheaper last gen. PS3 was 500-600USD. 360 was again 300-400USD.

You can't compare consoles with PCs. PC gaming is increasing compared to consoles. Many people and countries that used to pirate only are now legitimate customers thanks to Steam. Nevertheless that was besides the point. PC and consoles aren't apples to apples. PC never declined in sales it was just that for a moment in time consoles were selling way way faster than PC gaming, I already mentioned it in the other thread.

Yup, ONLY PS4 is selling great not others.

Switch? Thanks for agreeing with my point. The gen is lagging behind even after 2 console revisions by each console manufacturer compared to last. Is Switch 8th gen on 9th? If it's 8th gen then why are we including WiiU? No matter how you look at it, no matter how much cherry picking you do, consoles are declining.

But I also said specifically that this gen is lagging behind gen 6 numbers not just gen 7. Have fun trying to convince the executives of Sony, MS etc that consoles aren't declining because they clearly are investing in other avenues.

No it would be easy for google to make an app to perfectly run android apps. Its a lot easier to emulate on a multiproduced hardware. The PS4 is based on Linux to the point its possible to install Linux on it. So that really doesn't matter. I do agree its all about content though.

PC has no exclusives now...

@pc_rocks: Its impressive that the more you type the dumber you come across. That's no easy feat.

i dont want a good console, but i am curious to see what games sega brings to this thing, like a new crazy taxi or jet set radio would be cool

Inflation as shit to do with my argument and this gen consoles will, be even more expensive in 10 years what is your point.

Consoles were cheaper and the generation lasted 8 years compare that to the PS2 generation were consoles for all 3 came 6 years the most latter.

No dude is selling well in fact sony and Nintendo alone sold 17 million units from October to December.

The PS4 which is 5 years old now running on its 6th year sold 8.1 million units on its last quarter the switch sold 9 millions and is a hot new system so yeah the PS4 is fast approaching 100 millions and while my self don't think it will sell like the PS2 I am sure 130 millions or more is not out of the question when all is say and done.

Lagging vs gen 6? Are you on drugs or are you comparing total sales on gen 6 vs partial sales of this gen?

The PS2 took 5 years and 8 months to reach 100 millions the PS4 is 5 years and 4 months and already is at 94 millions the xbox one alone has like 40 millions which is what the xbox and GC basically had combined six years into the generation and I am not even counting the switch.

Please if you are going to compare gen also look at time lines the PS2 sold 156 millions but didn't reach that number in 6 years in fact it was on sale for 12 years.

Inflation has everything to do with your non-existing argument. Consoles were cheaper at the time of Gen 5 yet on the subsequent gens more consoles were sold if we ignore inflation. You had no argument to begin with just flip flopping and mental gymnastics to put a curtain over real situation.

Selling well =/= increasing sales. Gamestop may still be profitable, doesn't mean it will be opening new shops or someone else will enter into this market as it's declining. It's astounding how insecure a fanbase must be to unable to understand this simple concept.

Sorry, I don't care about your expectations. The real numbers are there and even Sony's PS revenue declined last quarter.

Yes, I'm listing Gen 6 and don't give me crap about partial or it isn't over. No amount of but but or mental gymnastics will change that.

I'm sorry I don't take your XBox numbers here or any of your posts seriously because of your constant flip flopping. I can put up literally dozens of your posts and threads where you're shouting how Xbox didn't even sold 30M and in fact trailing way behind 360. Don't think you can pull your lie with me. Even if this gen sold 200M by 2021 that will still be 60-70ish consoles behind last gen even though each manufacturer has put out at least two consoles this gen but then again the numbers are lagging behind gen 6 not just gen 7.

As for your last point with PS2 selling so much that actually goes against your agenda because no matter what happens no console is going to have the lasting power PS2 had because of libraray, extremely cheap price in the later life cycle for 3rd world countries. None of that will hold true for any gen 8 console, meaning it will cap at much lower numbers.

That's my last post on the topic. You don't want to accept the facts be my guest. The numbers have already proven my stand and will continue to do so in the coming years.

Probably an expensive Ouya.

That.... Doesn't sound right. But I'm intrigued. Especially with the rumors surrounding Sega.

Whatever they have in store, I'll have my eye on it for curiosity if nothing else

@Xabiss said:

This controller looks terrible. Hopefully it feels better then it looks, but damn it is just sad looking.

It looks like an amateur 3D printing project.

Google Teaser for GDC 2019

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@BassMan said:

Another console....

lol, for a moment there, I thought it's nose was the eyes.

@michaelmikado: I'm intrigued! I hope they really are jumping into this and not pulling some android related bs that they'll support half assedly.

I laugh everytime a PC fanatic wishes console gaming to end, the insecurity of those select PC fannies reeks and is pathetic.

It's not going to happen, give up, you'll feel better this way.

I appreciate the increased competition, but that controller tho...uh...seems doomed out the gate..

Who the hell told you this?

Interesting to see what it is and especially if they have an games to go with it. Will probably watch the keynote if I don't have anything better to do (who am I kidding lol?)

Look at @pc_rocks drivel, he clearly wishes console gaming to end.

Ooooh, it looks like Google is going all in. We're gonna have us a console war! 4 players in the market at once.

Don't forget mad studios, if that was what they were called.

Watch it get announced and have Ouya specs XD.

It would be funny if all of this is for a new game engine/online platform.

You have to be a special kind of stupid to truly believe console gaming is dying. There is a difference in declining and tapering off. Declining means that sales are worse than previous generations (and yes you have to take the lifetime of consoles into consideration). Tapering off means new sales are slowing down a bit, but there is still growth. Quite the difference. From that point anything can happen, there can be a huge new group of sales, or then it could start to decline. Seeing as though neither has happened, and at least two consoles are killing it though, that is a foolish assumption. At some point in time all sales taper off, it's just the way things go. Especially near the end of generations (stating SONY quarterly profits were down.. lol.. really? Near the end of the console gen? NAH.. lol), and right before new products are announced. In which case, there will be a lot of new growth all over again. Kind of like the changing of seasons.. What better day to announce a new console than the 1st day of Spring?

If this wasn't so close to April 1st............................. I would've believed it

but at the moment color me a skeptic

I hope MS and Sony unite to take google down. They are the last company I want to have data on when I play games and my communications with friends.

Maybe the PS5 could be the MSX 3? I can dream.

MS know all to well you need games not the most powerful console.

If they can keep load times shorter than it takes me to play a round of Tetris 99, I can see it sell.

Nice to see more companies making consoles. This will only spur more competition among the companies, and thus, even better consoles will be released.

Well I do want a company to enter the console race but not Google.. Google is a trash company that loves censorship.

Is this really true? Hm... that could be something..

The video is in 1920x1080p resolution instead of 4K

You are the only moron in the world who think lower revenues 1 year = a product is dying.

Fact > Opinion.

By November 2005 the generation was at 140 millions TOP that includes 100 million PS2 and 20/20 between xbox and GC.

5 years and 8 months after the PS2 launch.

In time frame into the 360 gen that would put us in July 2011.

The 360 was 50 millions the wii was at 86 millions i think and the PS3 like 48 millions.

Which bring the total in the same time frame as the PS2 to 184 million 44 million more than the gen before it in the same time frame.

We are 5 years and 4 months since the PS4 launched.

The switch has sell 32 millions as of December 31 last year,the PS4 94 millions and the xbox one like 40 millions.

So with 4 months to be on the same time frame this gen has sold 166 millions 18 less millions than last gen and 26 millions more than the PS2 gen,even that non of the machines had a catastrophic fail rate that sparked millions of re buy units like the 360 did.

So even if consoles end selling 10 million less in the same time frame that hardly mean they are dying not to mention the switch enter late into the race and doesn't have the same years of sales than the wii had in 2011.

Console are in way better position now than PC were 10 years ago and stats don't lie.

@tormentos: You forgot to include the 13 million Wii U sales.

I forgot about that one as well.

If they announce too early with plans set in stone on hardware then MS and Sony could easily leapfrog them in terms of power and pricing by waiting another year or two. Unless they aggressively sought exclusive deals and launch with a killer app then I am not sure what they are attempting.

I'm completely unsurprised by this. PC fannies stop hating on consoles, it's not healthy.

I still haven't seen or heard anything else about this... is it really for real?

@loco145:

https://venturebeat.com/2019/01/09/googles-project-stream-cloud-gaming-will-use-amd-radeon-graphics/

Google’s Project Stream cloud gaming will use AMD Radeon Graphics

Another design win for AMD. LOL

All that power just to play mobile games in 4k lol

I guess I'd chalk this up to I'm sure it's theoretically possible but how much more than that I can't really say.

It would be LOL situation when Sony, Microsoft and Google has common embedded Zen v2 + NAVI stack.

For Sony and MS,

1. Super-IO chip is replaced by 256bit or 384 bit GDDR6 memory controllers. Remove additional PCI-lanes.

2. Die 2 and Super-IO space allocation for large NAVI GPU.

3. MS/Sony's game console chip budgets usually runs into 320 mm2 to 362 mm2 range.

Something tells me Microsoft might hard counter this if it really is completely true and even though we literally have information in front of us I still just hesitate for some reason.