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#51 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"]

Just something I'd been noticing lately. This generation, most cows claim the PS3 won this gen because it has the most GOTY awards (well, is going to. Uncharted 2 pretty much has it locked down). And thats fine and all because from an objective standpoint, that makes sense. But here's something out of curiousity, do these same cows agree then that the Gamecube was the best console of last generation? That the Gamecube won last gen? A quick refresher if you will.

Last generation, GOTYs were:

2001 - Grand Theft Auto 3 (PS2)
2002 - Metroid Prime (GC)
2003 - Zelda Wind Waker (GC)
2004 - World of Warcraft (PC)
2005 - Resident Evil 4 (Gamecube version only)

So as you see, the Gamecube won more GOTY awards than every platform combined last generation. So, my only question is: if the PS3 won this gen because of GOTYs, did Gamecube win last gen?

furomaster_99

So, the GC lhad the GOTY and the ps2 had the sales last gen....The xbox celebrated mediocrity and so does the 360...At least it's consistent. :?

The XBox had more quality titles than the Gamecube THe 360 has more quality titles in its library than the PS3. Has as many AAA exclusives, has more AA exclusives, don't know the A count. I'm really missing the mediocrity.

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#52 dragonfly110
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[QUOTE="dragonfly110"]

no, basing things ONLY on goty is not the way it works :|

Skittles_McGee

Sure isn't, and thats entirely my point.

if that really was your point then you my firnd are quite clever and deserve a cookie *gives cookie*

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#53 Skittles_McGee
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[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"][QUOTE="dragonfly110"]

no, basing things ONLY on goty is not the way it works :|

dragonfly110

Sure isn't, and thats entirely my point.

if that really was your point then you my firnd are quite clever and deserve a cookie *gives cookie*

This better be chocolate chip or we're gonna have to duel. >_>
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[QUOTE="sanim02"]

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"] which doesn't discredit his point though. That at the end of the day GOTY means a lot for that one game. Means a lot as sort of a way to rub it in. But in the grand scheme of things it's hardly a meaningful award in the system war. jg4xchamp

So the number of quality titles decide which console is winning? I thought the sales did here on SW.:P

honestly It's sales. I mean i don't even understand how all of you can argue that. If we are judging the quality of the systems(which comes down to subjectivity) it's probably the quality titles. Ofcourse no one has found a flawless way of judging that other than personal opinions, or the opinions of critics. You know the kind that tell you God Hand is a 3.0 game, that MGS 4 is more technically impressive than Crysis Warhead, or does inconsistant reviews across platforms(thats Gametrailers, for those that didn't get the reference)

Well technically for a console to succeed yes sales matter but for a gamer, apparentely sales is what they play.:P
The Wii is winning this gen, the war was over ever since it surpassed the 360. Peopl are now fighting for 2nd place and better exclusives. I mean the latter is subjective but c'mon man. Peace & love.:P

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#55 Nike_Air
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[QUOTE="sanim02"]

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"] which doesn't discredit his point though. That at the end of the day GOTY means a lot for that one game. Means a lot as sort of a way to rub it in. But in the grand scheme of things it's hardly a meaningful award in the system war. jg4xchamp

So the number of quality titles decide which console is winning? I thought the sales did here on SW.:P

honestly It's sales. I mean i don't even understand how all of you can argue that. If we are judging the quality of the systems(which comes down to subjectivity) it's probably the quality titles. Ofcourse no one has found a flawless way of judging that other than personal opinions, or the opinions of critics. You know the kind that tell you God Hand is a 3.0 game, that MGS 4 is more technically impressive than Crysis Warhead, or does inconsistant reviews across platforms(thats Gametrailers, for those that didn't get the reference)

Sales are simply consumer choices (subjective decisions)which could be based on anything really. - marketing , a mario or halo game , a store clerk , a feature , an eyetoy game , whatever they can afford , whatever their friends have , etc ..... and a lot of times they are just gifts for people.It's doesn't mean much at the end of the day.

System Wars thrives because this is all subjective at the end of the day so we'll always have something to argue about. It's about how well you can spin things. IfSW was sales , then there wouldn't be people arguing about what is better now would there ? ;) Nobody would have been on the boards after the ps2 sales domination and there wouldn't be people debating now , right ?

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#56 furomaster_99
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[QUOTE="furomaster_99"]

[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"]

Just something I'd been noticing lately. This generation, most cows claim the PS3 won this gen because it has the most GOTY awards (well, is going to. Uncharted 2 pretty much has it locked down). And thats fine and all because from an objective standpoint, that makes sense. But here's something out of curiousity, do these same cows agree then that the Gamecube was the best console of last generation? That the Gamecube won last gen? A quick refresher if you will.

Last generation, GOTYs were:

2001 - Grand Theft Auto 3 (PS2)
2002 - Metroid Prime (GC)
2003 - Zelda Wind Waker (GC)
2004 - World of Warcraft (PC)
2005 - Resident Evil 4 (Gamecube version only)

So as you see, the Gamecube won more GOTY awards than every platform combined last generation. So, my only question is: if the PS3 won this gen because of GOTYs, did Gamecube win last gen?

jg4xchamp

So, the GC lhad the GOTY and the ps2 had the sales last gen....The xbox celebrated mediocrity and so does the 360...At least it's consistent. :?

The XBox had more quality titles than the Gamecube THe 360 has more quality titles in its library than the PS3. Has as many AAA exclusives, has more AA exclusives, don't know the A count. I'm really missing the mediocrity.

What I mean by "mediocre" is that everyone knows the Wii is ahead in sales. Check. The PS3 is putting out the quality GOTY winners and contenders. Check. Now, can you tell me what the 360 is doing special?

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#57 playharderfool
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Skittles_McGee: "You have no evidence and neither do I,"

Wow, just wow...so in a thread you made by you promoting false generalistic ideas about a group that you don't care to prove, I'm expected to somehow provide evidence against what you're telling people? Somebody call the SW's GoDs in here quick.

my very proof is that YOU don't have any, good day sir.

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#58 nintendoboy16
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I own over 40 games for my cube and I've put countless hours into nearly every single one of them. That's hardly a weak library.Superzone
Same here. Heck, I still get Gamecube games.
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#59 kozzy1234
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Gamecube WAS the best console last gen :DSuperzone

Gamcube had some great games but PS2 and xbox >> Gamecube.

Though SNES is tied with ps1 as my all tiem fav system.

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#61 SilverChimera
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Back to Back GOTYs doesn't change or effect an entire library. The PS3 and 360 if i'm not mistaken are either dead even on that major spreadsheet, or metacritic scores, or gamespot scores, and the PS3 is still behind the PC. The sales are won by the Wii. The funny thing is The War was over long ago, everyone else is just arguing pointless crap usually. Like graphics, because you know who cares if Crysis Warhead looks better than everything, clearly a console game is still a graphics king :)jg4xchamp
wouldn't the PC have the most sales?
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because the 360 had more AAA exclusives and AA exclusives, had the better online, had the better sales The PC had better verything Wii had sales, the GOTY ,and some AAA titles. In fact i think exclusives wise the Wii beat the PS3 in 2007. But hey you continue telling people the PS3 only had one flaw in 2007 :)...did I mention it was 600 dollars?jg4xchamp

Somebody need's to lay off the redbull.

I've noticed that there are always certian xbox fans who are always lurking around to say something slick to me whenever the opputunity arrises. And everytime you guys think you've hit me with a jab, I come back with a right-cross and there are no more blows exchanged :P

Now if you would kind point out to me where, in any of my posts, in this thread I said PS3 only had one flaw in 2007 I would kind stop telling them that.

you were so quick to bash you didn't even realize it was a 2 question responce, and that the 2 responces are interconnected, any logical person would have guessed that my question delt with the topic at hand and that my questions might fall in the relm of the variables thatare being discussion (GOTY, AAAE, debate about which console won that year etc) if a fanboy responed it would probably be taken into an entirely diffrent direction alas...the question wasn't for you.

Don't get so excited about throwing a jab at someone who isn't even in the ring with you.

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#63 Lionheart08
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PS3 = the logic breaker I guess.

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#64 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]

[QUOTE="furomaster_99"]So, the GC lhad the GOTY and the ps2 had the sales last gen....The xbox celebrated mediocrity and so does the 360...At least it's consistent. :?

furomaster_99

The XBox had more quality titles than the Gamecube THe 360 has more quality titles in its library than the PS3. Has as many AAA exclusives, has more AA exclusives, don't know the A count. I'm really missing the mediocrity.

What I mean by "mediocre" is that everyone knows the Wii is ahead in sales. Check. The PS3 is putting out the quality GOTY winners and contenders. Check. Now, can you tell me what the 360 is doing special?

By having the best overall library over the other consoles. Most AAA and AA titles. There. It is doing something special. See how having flawed logic doesn't help you make a point, and makes you look foolish :)
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]Back to Back GOTYs doesn't change or effect an entire library. The PS3 and 360 if i'm not mistaken are either dead even on that major spreadsheet, or metacritic scores, or gamespot scores, and the PS3 is still behind the PC. The sales are won by the Wii. The funny thing is The War was over long ago, everyone else is just arguing pointless crap usually. Like graphics, because you know who cares if Crysis Warhead looks better than everything, clearly a console game is still a graphics king :)SilverChimera
wouldn't the PC have the most sales?

it probably does.
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#66 OreoMilkshake
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Gamecube fails because Super Mario Sunshine was on it. end of discussion

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Sunshine is as good as Uncharted.
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"] because the 360 had more AAA exclusives and AA exclusives, had the better online, had the better sales The PC had better verything Wii had sales, the GOTY ,and some AAA titles. In fact i think exclusives wise the Wii beat the PS3 in 2007. But hey you continue telling people the PS3 only had one flaw in 2007 :)...did I mention it was 600 dollars?playharderfool

Somebody need's to lay off the redbull.

I've noticed that there are always certian xbox fans who are always lurking around to say something slick to me whenever the opputunity arrises. And everytime you guys think you've hit me with a jab, I come back with a right-cross and there are no more blows exchanged :P

Now if you would kind point out to me where, in any of my posts, in this thread I said PS3 only had one flaw in 2007 I would kind stop telling them that.

you were so quick to bash you didn't even realize it was a 2 question responce, and that the 2 responces are interconnected, any logical person would have guessed that my question delt with the topic at hand and that my questions might fall in the relm of the variables thatare being discussion (GOTY, AAAE, debate about which console won that year etc) if a fanboy responed it would probably be taken into an entirely diffrent direction alas...the question wasn't for you.

Don't get so excited about throwing a jab at someone who isn't even in the ring with you.

  • 1- I'm still here
  • 2- My GOTY was Demon's Souls, I own all 4 systems, and somehow I'm an xbox fan :|
  • 3- Nah no redbull, Gatorade been busy watchin the football game :)
  • 4- The part where you keep saying the PS3 was made fun of for not having AAA titles. That wasn't the only reason it was made fun of, it was more than that
  • 5- What was the bash. My point still stands. The PS3 was made fun of for multiple reasons for those years, as flawed as some of them were.
  • 6- I'm not throwing jabs, just spittin some facts for you.
  • 7- You couldn't handle the ring with me, I'm a beast ;)
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#68 Parasomniac
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PS2 won because it just had so many quality games. AAA games Gamecube DID have were of amazing quality though.
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#69 SilverChimera
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[QUOTE="playharderfool"]

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"] because the 360 had more AAA exclusives and AA exclusives, had the better online, had the better sales The PC had better verything Wii had sales, the GOTY ,and some AAA titles. In fact i think exclusives wise the Wii beat the PS3 in 2007. But hey you continue telling people the PS3 only had one flaw in 2007 :)...did I mention it was 600 dollars?jg4xchamp

Somebody need's to lay off the redbull.

I've noticed that there are always certian xbox fans who are always lurking around to say something slick to me whenever the opputunity arrises. And everytime you guys think you've hit me with a jab, I come back with a right-cross and there are no more blows exchanged :P

Now if you would kind point out to me where, in any of my posts, in this thread I said PS3 only had one flaw in 2007 I would kind stop telling them that.

you were so quick to bash you didn't even realize it was a 2 question responce, and that the 2 responces are interconnected, any logical person would have guessed that my question delt with the topic at hand and that my questions might fall in the relm of the variables thatare being discussion (GOTY, AAAE, debate about which console won that year etc) if a fanboy responed it would probably be taken into an entirely diffrent direction alas...the question wasn't for you.

Don't get so excited about throwing a jab at someone who isn't even in the ring with you.

  • 1- I'm still here
  • 2- My GOTY was Demon's Souls, I own all 4 systems, and somehow I'm an xbox fan :|
  • 3- Nah no redbull, Gatorade been busy watchin the football game :)
  • 4- The part where you keep saying the PS3 was made fun of for not having AAA titles. That wasn't the only reason it was made fun of, it was more than that
  • 5- What was the bash. My point still stands. The PS3 was made fun of for those years, as flawed as some of them were.
  • 6- I'm not throwing jabs, just spittin some facts for you.
  • 7- You couldn't handle the ring with me, I'm a beast ;)

:shock: So much.... ownage...

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The GC was under ratted that is for sure, but I have not seen this talk of PS3 winning due to GOTY awards. The PS3 seems to have had the best 2009 in terms of games overall though.
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who gives a **** Jesus..

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Just something I'd been noticing lately. This generation, most cows claim the PS3 won this gen because it has the most GOTY awards (well, is going to. Uncharted 2 pretty much has it locked down). And thats fine and all because from an objective standpoint, that makes sense. But here's something out of curiousity, do these same cows agree then that the Gamecube was the best console of last generation? That the Gamecube won last gen? A quick refresher if you will.

Last generation, GOTYs were:

2001 - Grand Theft Auto 3 (PS2)
2002 - Metroid Prime (GC)
2003 - Zelda Wind Waker (GC)
2004 - World of Warcraft (PC)
2005 - Resident Evil 4 (Gamecube version only)

So as you see, the Gamecube won more GOTY awards than every platform combined last generation. So, my only question is: if the PS3 won this gen because of GOTYs, did Gamecube win last gen?

Skittles_McGee
You need to win awards unanimously or you need to be officially recognised by the AIAS for GoTY if you're being objective. The PS2, Xbox, and PC spanked the Gamecube when it came to critical acclaim.
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#73 Verge_6
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]

[QUOTE="furomaster_99"]So, the GC lhad the GOTY and the ps2 had the sales last gen....The xbox celebrated mediocrity and so does the 360...At least it's consistent. :?

furomaster_99

The XBox had more quality titles than the Gamecube THe 360 has more quality titles in its library than the PS3. Has as many AAA exclusives, has more AA exclusives, don't know the A count. I'm really missing the mediocrity.

What I mean by "mediocre" is that everyone knows the Wii is ahead in sales. Check. The PS3 is putting out the quality GOTY winners and contenders. Check. Now, can you tell me what the 360 is doing special?

Gee, I dunno, how about having the highest AA/AAA game count so far? :|
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[QUOTE="furomaster_99"]

What I mean by "mediocre" is that everyone knows the Wii is ahead in sales. Check. The PS3 is putting out the quality GOTY winners and contenders. Check. Now, can you tell me what the 360 is doing special?

Verge_6

Gee, I dunno, how about having the highest AA/AAA game count so far? :|

I always thought we lived in a world where sales > games...

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#75 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"]

Just something I'd been noticing lately. This generation, most cows claim the PS3 won this gen because it has the most GOTY awards (well, is going to. Uncharted 2 pretty much has it locked down). And thats fine and all because from an objective standpoint, that makes sense. But here's something out of curiousity, do these same cows agree then that the Gamecube was the best console of last generation? That the Gamecube won last gen? A quick refresher if you will.

Last generation, GOTYs were:

2001 - Grand Theft Auto 3 (PS2)
2002 - Metroid Prime (GC)
2003 - Zelda Wind Waker (GC)
2004 - World of Warcraft (PC)
2005 - Resident Evil 4 (Gamecube version only)

So as you see, the Gamecube won more GOTY awards than every platform combined last generation. So, my only question is: if the PS3 won this gen because of GOTYs, did Gamecube win last gen?

heybooboo19

You need to win awards unanimously or you need to be officially recognised by the AIAS for GoTY if you're being objective. The PS2, Xbox, and PC spanked the Gamecube when it came to critical acclaim.

Metroid Prime, Wind Waker, and Resident Evil 4 were winning GOTY at a ton of places.

No game wins unanimously(even OoT didn't win every GOTY).

2nd we only use gamespot on system wars, why the hell would we use non gamespot sources :|

and by your logic MGS 4 isn't last years GOTY. GTA 4 won more GOTY awards last year.

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#76 JetLag123
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[QUOTE="Superzone"]I own over 40 games for my cube and I've put countless hours into nearly every single one of them. That's hardly a weak library.nintendoboy16
Same here. Heck, I still get Gamecube games.

same here! have tons of GC games. while I did play other systems last gen as well I always found myself playing my GC the most. what software it did have on there was phenomenal, and had some of the key 3rd party games (timespliters, GUN, etc). this is system wars though, so someone will say either the competitions was much better or it wasnt enough or something of that ilk

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I still play Wind Waker. My favorite game. It truly feels like an adventure.

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#78 playharderfool
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:shock: So much.... ownage...

SilverChimera

:| Really now?

Some people are easily fool, you do realize that this...

"4- The part where you keep saying the PS3 was made fun of for not having AAA titles. That wasn't the only reason it was made fun of, it was more than that"

Isn't an actual quote from anythng I've said? Those are entirely re-written in his own words and the highlited part is never stated or implaied by me, and it's the justification for his entire post. Why don't YOU point out to me where I said this ("it's the only reason") since you seem to think I'm owned? By trying to imply that I said AAA's are "the only reason" he has imposed a false notion in my post that is not where to befound.

There is no owage because he lied / made something up to look cool and then used the rest of his post formulate a bash based off the fact that he was hoping people would be destracted by the manipulation he used to have people think that he actually made some kind of point.

Again he said, "you continue telling people the PS3 only had one flaw in 2007", AND INEVER ACTUALLY EVER SAID THAT, So his entire post can be summed up in one word...let me give you a hint it starts with a "T".

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#79 metalgear-solid
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So as you see, the Gamecube won more GOTY awards than every platform combined last generation. So, my only question is: if the PS3 won this gen because of GOTYs, did Gamecube win last gen?

Skittles_McGee

Gamecube might have won in the sense that with its rather low amount of games, it had the highest percentage of quality games.
But with the sheer amount of PS2 games (+sales, of course) that were critically acclaimed, PlayStation 2 easily takes the victory.

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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="Superzone"]I own over 40 games for my cube and I've put countless hours into nearly every single one of them. That's hardly a weak library.Superzone

thats an isolated situation. HORRIBLE example. Thats like me justifying Halo 3 as a great game because I've played over 1,000 games of Halo 3 multiplayer online.

Playing a game for 1,000 hours obviously indicates that it's very good...

or that the champster has a boring life anyway, 1000 games at 5 minutes a game would be 83 hours or so
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#81 h575309
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Superzone"]

thats an isolated situation. HORRIBLE example. Thats like me justifying Halo 3 as a great game because I've played over 1,000 games of Halo 3 multiplayer online. jg4xchamp

Playing a game for 1,000 hours obviously indicates that it's very good...

or that the champster has a boring life anyway, 1000 games at 5 minutes a game would be 83 hours or so

lol. looks like we got a george bush protege there....
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#82 Ultimaspooges
Member since 2009 • 351 Posts

Just something I'd been noticing lately. This generation, most cows claim the PS3 won this gen because it has the most GOTY awards (well, is going to. Uncharted 2 pretty much has it locked down). And thats fine and all because from an objective standpoint, that makes sense. But here's something out of curiousity, do these same cows agree then that the Gamecube was the best console of last generation? That the Gamecube won last gen? A quick refresher if you will.

Last generation, GOTYs were:

2001 - Grand Theft Auto 3 (PS2)
2002 - Metroid Prime (GC)
2003 - Zelda Wind Waker (GC)
2004 - World of Warcraft (PC)
2005 - Resident Evil 4 (Gamecube version only)

So as you see, the Gamecube won more GOTY awards than every platform combined last generation. So, my only question is: if the PS3 won this gen because of GOTYs, did Gamecube win last gen?

Skittles_McGee

Resident Evil 4 was PS2 also.

what about the year 2000 ? Who won GS' goty then?

And well... Not really the GC I don't know how GS could allow WoW to win over GTA San Andreas (PS2 version)

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#83 chocolate1325
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Well this gen started in 2006 so I think

2006 Gears of War

2007 Mario Galaxy

2008 Metal Gear Solid 4

2009 Uncharted 2

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#84 Ravenlore_basic
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Just something I'd been noticing lately. This generation, most cows claim the PS3 won this gen because it has the most GOTY awards (well, is going to. Uncharted 2 pretty much has it locked down). And thats fine and all because from an objective standpoint, that makes sense. But here's something out of curiousity, do these same cows agree then that the Gamecube was the best console of last generation? That the Gamecube won last gen? A quick refresher if you will.

Last generation, GOTYs were:

2001 - Grand Theft Auto 3 (PS2)
2002 - Metroid Prime (GC)
2003 - Zelda Wind Waker (GC)
2004 - World of Warcraft (PC)
2005 - Resident Evil 4 (Gamecube version only)

So as you see, the Gamecube won more GOTY awards than every platform combined last generation. So, my only question is: if the PS3 won this gen because of GOTYs, did Gamecube win last gen?

Skittles_McGee

Owing all three consoles last gen and still playing plenty of games from last gen.... I have to say YES. GC had lots of games that were great.. But it does not take away from the verity of Great PS2 games.