Gran Turismo 5 Prologue Is So Beautiful

[QUOTE="donwoogie"][QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="wingman3030"]

Sounds to me like someone is playing on the standard settings.

EmperorSupreme

Nope, I've dialed up the settings in both games, and Forza 2 delivers the more challenging and crushingly realistic experience. Try playing Forza 2 with simulation damage, manual shifting, hard AI difficulty and all the assists turned off with the racing wheel and see how long you last. I'm not saying GT5 prologue isn't realistic and challenging in its own right but I don't feel it's as realistic as Forza.

You can set up the settings for GranTurismo the same way, out of the box it has all kinds of assists turned on. I use the G25 wheel and all the assists turned off and I don't think I've ever had a better more realistic driving experience than GT5: Prologue.

Ugh! If you want realism driving and crushing difficulty, get F1:CE. Much more realistic than either of them and there is very little chance of you even passing the initial trials in medium mode, let alone get assigned as a racer for a team. That game takes punishing to a whole new level...............

I know that game is so hard, Like Ninja Gaiden is a joke hard.. :) I played forever before I could even qualify to get on a team. Probably one of the most challenging games I've ever played. F1 was horribly underrated in my opinion one of the best racing games I've ever played. I think it was just too hard for most people.

Yeh. One of my mates went to some games expo a while back and they had a competition where the person who drove the fastest lap in, I think it was GT4 or 3, would win the then unreleased Silver PS2, 2 controllers and the GT game and he won it by a fair while and even he couldn't get far in medium mode :P

Me, I get lucky if I finish an entire course with all the aids off.

[QUOTE="blitzcloud"][QUOTE="Sgt_Grig"]Good point, Xbox live support, Cross game invites, Custom Soundtracks, Achievements, Universal friendslist, and the 360 controller instead of the six axis wouldve improved the experience alot.

Sgt_Grig

Controllers? How can any Sim be played with a controller? I gotta lol at the people that talk about "simulation" and play it with a controller. (dont get me wrong, you can play a racing game with a controller, but then dont talk about simulation and gameplay).

zomg, gotta getz me the wheel, and six monitorz all around me and one under me, and a vibrating chair and then a fan to blow a wind in ma face....."TRUE SIM"

how does what you play with figure into the fact that the game itself lacks all these features?? will a wheel fix the online lag and make the cars stop jumping around the track?

The wheel wont fix it, but getting yourself a faster internet connection will ;D

[QUOTE="alex77k"][QUOTE="Sgt_Grig"][QUOTE="Chutebox"]

Wow, are you serious dude? How will that help since Live is P2P also?

heretrix

a p2p service that gave me smooth gameplay when i was playing Forza2. and thanks to headsets, made it seem like i wasnt playing against a bunch of nameless bots

Ahahahahahaha! Thanks for the laugh! MS should use that in their commercials: Even P2P gets faster when you play on Xbox 360!

I am not disputing that claim. In fact I havent played either game and driving games are not my thing. The way this thread was going made it sound like "xbox makes p2p connections faster".

I guess if you don't expect chat, playing with the people on your friends list and racers that don't ram into the other racers and the walls in order to get around the track it's pretty good. But hey, no big deal look at how good it looks that counts for everything right?

It's really too bad the online is so darn poor. Polyphony better step up their game.

yeah, too bad about the gameplay. wish they took some pointers from Forza.:(Sgt_Grig

I prefer the game-play in gt5p a lot more then forza 2. Especially once you can tune your car. The way performance points work means you can be much more strategic then forza, and a much wider variety of cars are able to compete.

I did not like Forza 2 at all, but I did enjoy the first one. But IMO GT5P is more fun to race then both those games.

It's really too bad the online is so darn poor. Polyphony better step up their game.

BioShockOwnz

I have not had many problems at all. Especially since I stopped running the beginner race events.

I guess if you don't expect chat, playing with the people on your friends list and racers that don't ram into the other racers and the walls in order to get around the track it's pretty good. But hey, no big deal look at how good it looks that counts for everything right?

Riverwolf007

Online is missing some, like voice chat, but its a prologue and they are planning to add a lot including voice chat and damage, through patches, and even DLC

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

*Facepalm*

Dude, I get it. I do have the game after all. I also have GT4 and was considering picking up a copy of GT3. The new driving line isn't the only assist GT5: Prologue gives you. There also settings for traction and stability control as well as something called "Active Steering" or something along those lines that I've never used.

CubanBlunt

Then you must have forgot then or that first statement wouldn't have came out your mouth.

Do you even know what you're saying? Gran Turismo 4 also has its own assists in the form of Traction and stability control as well as a flashing red indicator of what gear you should be in when entering a turn. The only new feature is the driving line and perhaps the active steering. So it's not like this is the first time the GT series has had assists built in.

It's really too bad the online is so darn poor. Polyphony better step up their game.

BioShockOwnz

That is the first legitimate criticism I've heard so far. Yamamuchi himself has acknowleged it is something they need to work on.

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

I guess if you don't expect chat, playing with the people on your friends list and racers that don't ram into the other racers and the walls in order to get around the track it's pretty good. But hey, no big deal look at how good it looks that counts for everything right?

f50p90

Online is missing some, like voice chat, but its a prologue and they are planning to add a lot including voice chat and damage, through patches, and even DLC

Voice chat is a total non issue for me until they allow private rooms that you can invite friends too.

People crying about getting hit is not something I need to hear.

[QUOTE="Sgt_Grig"]yeah, too bad about the gameplay. wish they took some pointers from Forza.:(Coyo7e

I prefer the game-play in gt5p a lot more then forza 2. Especially once you can tune your car. The way performance points work means you can be much more strategic then forza, and a much wider variety of cars are able to compete.

I did not like Forza 2 at all, but I did enjoy the first one. But IMO GT5P is more fun to race then both those games.

Besides, there are class restrictions in Forza 2, which can limit the amount of tuning that can be done to your car, which will undoubtedly give the edge to the better driver and the one's who can tune efficiently within their chosen class. If that's where you were going in respect to GT5: Prologue.

[QUOTE="Coyo7e"]

[QUOTE="Sgt_Grig"]yeah, too bad about the gameplay. wish they took some pointers from Forza.:(The_Game21x

I prefer the game-play in gt5p a lot more then forza 2. Especially once you can tune your car. The way performance points work means you can be much more strategic then forza, and a much wider variety of cars are able to compete.

I did not like Forza 2 at all, but I did enjoy the first one. But IMO GT5P is more fun to race then both those games.

Besides, there are class restrictions in Forza 2, which can limit the amount of tuning that can be done to your car, which will undoubtedly give the edge to the better driver and the one's who can tune efficiently within their chosen class. If that's where you were going in respect to GT5: Prologue.

But in Forza there were always cars (I have not raced Forz 2 in a long while) that trumped every other car in that class. I have even been in races where people complained that a certain car was not "fair" to use.

In GT5P you have performance points. So a car can have say 700 PP. The car I was using had 713, so I sacrificed some HP joined a race and got rolled. I came back and knew I needed better racing tires but that made my PP jump to 714 so I sac'ed more HP. I was a lot better off but I needed more acceleration for for the circuit I was running so I went and adjusted my gear ratios and PP jumped over 700 again.. what do I sac now?

Any car can compete in the 700 PP races as long as you tune it to 700 max PP. A much, much wider selection of strategeys are at hand and many, many more cars can compete.

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

It's really too bad the online is so darn poor. Polyphony better step up their game.

EmperorSupreme

That is the first legitimate criticism I've heard so far. Yamamuchi himself has acknowleged it is something they need to work on.

Yeah, it's my only real complaint. Would I like damage right now? Damn right! Can I go without it until they get us the update? Yup. I really hope the Prologue is serving as a beta and they improve the online and make it more feature rich for the full game.

I have this game. It even looks better in motion!Rikusaki

It's amazing and anyone who actually says it doesn't look good and play really well (with the exception of crashing), are fooling themselves/haven't played it. Simple as that.

[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

It's really too bad the online is so darn poor. Polyphony better step up their game.

BioShockOwnz

That is the first legitimate criticism I've heard so far. Yamamuchi himself has acknowleged it is something they need to work on.

Yeah, it's my only real complaint. Would I like damage right now? Damn right! Can I go without it until they get us the update? Yup. I really hope the Prologue is serving as a beta and they improve the online and make it more feature rich for the full game.

Damage will be nice but I do not miss it at all like I though I would. On the intermediate and up online racing you are punished for not driving well.

My first race I was battling for sixth because I just was not ready for the real deal after running the very arcade beginner class. But 5th place net me 34k, so its still more productive, and a lot more intense.

I have not had racing this intense outside of MoroGP, witch I have always played on the xbox consoles.

The game cards dont mean a thing to me, I can add them to my sig if I wanted to. Play Prologue then holla back at me. Go to Xbox.com, look up my gamer tag......I've played and traded in Forza 1 & 2, Forza 1 was better then 2.

CubanBlunt

SONY XBR4 46in, SONY PS3 40 gig(320gig)

Satisfied? If you want when I get home from work, I can post new pics with Prologue on the screen.

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="Coyo7e"]

[QUOTE="Sgt_Grig"]yeah, too bad about the gameplay. wish they took some pointers from Forza.:(Coyo7e

I prefer the game-play in gt5p a lot more then forza 2. Especially once you can tune your car. The way performance points work means you can be much more strategic then forza, and a much wider variety of cars are able to compete.

I did not like Forza 2 at all, but I did enjoy the first one. But IMO GT5P is more fun to race then both those games.

Besides, there are class restrictions in Forza 2, which can limit the amount of tuning that can be done to your car, which will undoubtedly give the edge to the better driver and the one's who can tune efficiently within their chosen class. If that's where you were going in respect to GT5: Prologue.

But in Forza there were always cars (I have not raced Forz 2 in a long while) that trumped every other car in that class. I have even been in races where people complained that a certain car was not "fair" to use.

In GT5P you have performance points. So a car can have say 700 PP. The car I was using had 713, so I sacrificed some HP joined a race and got rolled. I came back and knew I needed better racing tires but that made my PP jump to 714 so I sac'ed more HP. I was a lot better off but I needed more acceleration for for the circuit I was running so I went and adjusted my gear ratios and PP jumped over 700 again.. what do I sac now?

Any car can compete in the 700 PP races as long as you tune it to 700 max PP. A much, much wider selection of strategeys are at hand and many, many more cars can compete.

[QUOTE="Sgt_Grig"]yeah, too bad about the gameplay. wish they took some pointers from Forza.:(Chutebox

It's always easy to tell who has and hasn't played the game yet.

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="Sgt_Grig"]yeah, too bad about the gameplay. wish they took some pointers from Forza.:(killab2oo5

It's always easy to tell who has and hasn't played the game yet.

The physics are dead on in both games as far as I can tell. My major gripe with GT is the complete lack of needing to drive the apex, and even brake around turns playing the AI. Driving the rail or bouncing off the competition always nets me my fastest times. I couldn't beat the 4th race (integra) of the B class series, until I started driving completely unrealistically.

I reckon the game would be twice as good if you used an actual wheel for the PS3. Thats what Im probaly going to do...

-Aaron

[QUOTE="killab2oo5"][QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="Sgt_Grig"]yeah, too bad about the gameplay. wish they took some pointers from Forza.:(dru26

It's always easy to tell who has and hasn't played the game yet.

The physics are dead on in both games as far as I can tell. My major gripe with GT is the complete lack of needing to drive the apex, and even brake around turns playing the AI. Driving the rail or bouncing off the competition always nets me my fastest times. I couldn't beat the 4th race (integra) of the B class series, until I started driving completely unrealistically.

I'm sure once damage comes in that won't be possible :P

I believe GT5 has a better physics model than Forza 2 on professional, but lacks damage which allows opportunities such as wall hugging (I did it myself, got 111th on Ford GT Daytona TT)

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="Sgt_Grig"]yeah, too bad about the gameplay. wish they took some pointers from Forza.:(Sgt_Grig

It's always easy to tell who has and hasn't played the game yet.

i know, you should play Forza dude. your missing out.

[QUOTE="Sgt_Grig"][QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="Sgt_Grig"]yeah, too bad about the gameplay. wish they took some pointers from Forza.:(ragrdoll21

It's always easy to tell who has and hasn't played the game yet.

i know, you should play Forza dude. your missing out.

Please explain...I'm sure you have something very smart to say.

its a good thing i care more about gameplay than visuals :)

Too bad the gameplay and physics suckProductNumber49

You couldnt be anymore wrong but dont take my word for it take IGNs..

"No game drives better or more realistically than this."

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/866/866698p2.html

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="Coyo7e"]

[QUOTE="Sgt_Grig"]yeah, too bad about the gameplay. wish they took some pointers from Forza.:(Coyo7e

I prefer the game-play in gt5p a lot more then forza 2. Especially once you can tune your car. The way performance points work means you can be much more strategic then forza, and a much wider variety of cars are able to compete.

I did not like Forza 2 at all, but I did enjoy the first one. But IMO GT5P is more fun to race then both those games.

Besides, there are class restrictions in Forza 2, which can limit the amount of tuning that can be done to your car, which will undoubtedly give the edge to the better driver and the one's who can tune efficiently within their chosen class. If that's where you were going in respect to GT5: Prologue.

But in Forza there were always cars (I have not raced Forz 2 in a long while) that trumped every other car in that class. I have even been in races where people complained that a certain car was not "fair" to use.

In GT5P you have performance points. So a car can have say 700 PP. The car I was using had 713, so I sacrificed some HP joined a race and got rolled. I came back and knew I needed better racing tires but that made my PP jump to 714 so I sac'ed more HP. I was a lot better off but I needed more acceleration for for the circuit I was running so I went and adjusted my gear ratios and PP jumped over 700 again.. what do I sac now?

Any car can compete in the 700 PP races as long as you tune it to 700 max PP. A much, much wider selection of strategeys are at hand and many, many more cars can compete.

I can see you haven't played Forza 2 in a while, it's written all over your post.

In Forza, there has never been any one car that trumped all of the others in the class except perhaps the incredibly unbalanced Lotus Elan in class D which was fixed very early on with an update. Like I said in my earlier post, it all depends on how you tune your car within that class. Everyone may think the Corvette Z06 is the best possible car in the A class, but my tuned RX-7 Gen 3, also in the A class, beats it around the track every time. Why? Because it's properly tuned, that's why. Say I'm at the limit for the A class and I need to tune it for a race specifically for A class cars because it's just not as fast as I need it to be. Well, I'll hop into the tuning menu and make a few adjustments to the gear ratios, differential, tire pressure, braking pressure, and downforce until it's to my liking. Hmm...sounds familiar to what you're doing in GT5: Prologue doesn't it? :wink:

It's funny you bring up the Performance Points system in GT5...sounds an awful lot like the Performance Index ratings assigned to cars in Forza 2. The number of points determines your car's class, and can be raised (and in some cases, lowered) by buying upgrades...hmm...I wonder where Polyphony got that idea? My guess is the same place they got the idea for the dynamically adjusting driving line. :wink:

forza 2 will quench my racing game thirst for years to come. it's sweet. i may rent upcoming ones like pg5(assuming it's coming) and GRiD, but forza is the only permanent fixture on my shelf for racing.paullywog

I completely agree with you there. I haven't ever enjoyed a racing game as much as I have Forza 2.

[QUOTE="Coyo7e"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="Coyo7e"]

[QUOTE="Sgt_Grig"]yeah, too bad about the gameplay. wish they took some pointers from Forza.:(The_Game21x

I prefer the game-play in gt5p a lot more then forza 2. Especially once you can tune your car. The way performance points work means you can be much more strategic then forza, and a much wider variety of cars are able to compete.

I did not like Forza 2 at all, but I did enjoy the first one. But IMO GT5P is more fun to race then both those games.

Besides, there are class restrictions in Forza 2, which can limit the amount of tuning that can be done to your car, which will undoubtedly give the edge to the better driver and the one's who can tune efficiently within their chosen class. If that's where you were going in respect to GT5: Prologue.

But in Forza there were always cars (I have not raced Forz 2 in a long while) that trumped every other car in that class. I have even been in races where people complained that a certain car was not "fair" to use.

In GT5P you have performance points. So a car can have say 700 PP. The car I was using had 713, so I sacrificed some HP joined a race and got rolled. I came back and knew I needed better racing tires but that made my PP jump to 714 so I sac'ed more HP. I was a lot better off but I needed more acceleration for for the circuit I was running so I went and adjusted my gear ratios and PP jumped over 700 again.. what do I sac now?

Any car can compete in the 700 PP races as long as you tune it to 700 max PP. A much, much wider selection of strategeys are at hand and many, many more cars can compete.

I can see you haven't played Forza 2 in a while, it's written all over your post.

In Forza, there has never been any one car that trumped all of the others in the class except perhaps the incredibly unbalanced Lotus Elan in class D which was fixed very early on with an update. Like I said in my earlier post, it all depends on how you tune your car within that class. Everyone may think the Corvette Z06 is the best possible car in the A class, but my tuned RX-7 Gen 3, also in the A class, beats it around the track every time. Why? Because it's properly tuned, that's why. Say I'm at the limit for the A class and I need to tune it for a race specifically for A class cars because it's just not as fast as I need it to be. Well, I'll hop into the tuning menu and make a few adjustments to the gear ratios, differential, tire pressure, braking pressure, and downforce until it's to my liking. Hmm...sounds familiar to what you're doing in GT5: Prologue doesn't it? :wink:

It's funny you bring up the Performance Points system in GT5...sounds an awful lot like the Performance Index ratings assigned to cars in Forza 2. The number of points determines your car's class, and can be raised (and in some cases, lowered) by buying upgrades...hmm...I wonder where Polyphony got that idea? My guess is the same place they got the idea for the dynamically adjusting driving line. :wink:

forza 2 will quench my racing game thirst for years to come. it's sweet. i may rent upcoming ones like pg5(assuming it's coming) and GRiD, but forza is the only permanent fixture on my shelf for racing.paullywog

I completely agree with you there. I haven't ever enjoyed a racing game as much as I have Forza 2.

I'm sure the ;) at the end made you feel like the coolest person on earth, didn't it? :roll:

As for the better game? In my opinon, it's GT5 (well only the prologue is out but even that is proving so much already, even with the absence of damage, modifying car parts, etc). It's the most realistic driving experience outside of the real world that you will ever get, perdiod. Plus, i enjoy driving in this game far more than in games like Burnout: Paradise. I guess it just depends if you like arcade vs realistic simulator.

[QUOTE="ProductNumber49"]Too bad the gameplay and physics suckwingman3030

You couldnt be anymore wrong but dont take my word for it take IGNs..

"No game drives better or more realistically than this."

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/866/866698p2.html

Meh, I really do not care what IGN says. I just know I prefer the GT5P game-play over Forza.

[QUOTE="Coyo7e"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="Coyo7e"]

[QUOTE="Sgt_Grig"]yeah, too bad about the gameplay. wish they took some pointers from Forza.:(The_Game21x

I prefer the game-play in gt5p a lot more then forza 2. Especially once you can tune your car. The way performance points work means you can be much more strategic then forza, and a much wider variety of cars are able to compete.

I did not like Forza 2 at all, but I did enjoy the first one. But IMO GT5P is more fun to race then both those games.

Besides, there are class restrictions in Forza 2, which can limit the amount of tuning that can be done to your car, which will undoubtedly give the edge to the better driver and the one's who can tune efficiently within their chosen class. If that's where you were going in respect to GT5: Prologue.

But in Forza there were always cars (I have not raced Forz 2 in a long while) that trumped every other car in that class. I have even been in races where people complained that a certain car was not "fair" to use.

In GT5P you have performance points. So a car can have say 700 PP. The car I was using had 713, so I sacrificed some HP joined a race and got rolled. I came back and knew I needed better racing tires but that made my PP jump to 714 so I sac'ed more HP. I was a lot better off but I needed more acceleration for for the circuit I was running so I went and adjusted my gear ratios and PP jumped over 700 again.. what do I sac now?

Any car can compete in the 700 PP races as long as you tune it to 700 max PP. A much, much wider selection of strategeys are at hand and many, many more cars can compete.

I can see you haven't played Forza 2 in a while, it's written all over your post.

In Forza, there has never been any one car that trumped all of the others in the class except perhaps the incredibly unbalanced Lotus Elan in class D which was fixed very early on with an update. Like I said in my earlier post, it all depends on how you tune your car within that class. Everyone may think the Corvette Z06 is the best possible car in the A class, but my tuned RX-7 Gen 3, also in the A class, beats it around the track every time. Why? Because it's properly tuned, that's why. Say I'm at the limit for the A class and I need to tune it for a race specifically for A class cars because it's just not as fast as I need it to be. Well, I'll hop into the tuning menu and make a few adjustments to the gear ratios, differential, tire pressure, braking pressure, and downforce until it's to my liking. Hmm...sounds familiar to what you're doing in GT5: Prologue doesn't it? :wink:

It's funny you bring up the Performance Points system in GT5...sounds an awful lot like the Performance Index ratings assigned to cars in Forza 2. The number of points determines your car's class, and can be raised (and in some cases, lowered) by buying upgrades...hmm...I wonder where Polyphony got that idea? My guess is the same place they got the idea for the dynamically adjusting driving line. :wink:

forza 2 will quench my racing game thirst for years to come. it's sweet. i may rent upcoming ones like pg5(assuming it's coming) and GRiD, but forza is the only permanent fixture on my shelf for racing.paullywog

I completely agree with you there. I haven't ever enjoyed a racing game as much as I have Forza 2.

Good points. At the end of the day Forza2 left me wondering if the genre was just played out for me. I really did not like it. GT5P is deffinatyl my game of choice.

P.S. Nice to see PD0 sigs and such. I assume you liked that game? I really liked PD0 but I thought I was the only one.

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

I can see you haven't played Forza 2 in a while, it's written all over your post.

In Forza, there has never been any one car that trumped all of the others in the class except perhaps the incredibly unbalanced Lotus Elan in class D which was fixed very early on with an update. Like I said in my earlier post, it all depends on how you tune your car within that class. Everyone may think the Corvette Z06 is the best possible car in the A class, but my tuned RX-7 Gen 3, also in the A class, beats it around the track every time. Why? Because it's properly tuned, that's why. Say I'm at the limit for the A class and I need to tune it for a race specifically for A class cars because it's just not as fast as I need it to be. Well, I'll hop into the tuning menu and make a few adjustments to the gear ratios, differential, tire pressure, braking pressure, and downforce until it's to my liking. Hmm...sounds familiar to what you're doing in GT5: Prologue doesn't it? :wink:

It's funny you bring up the Performance Points system in GT5...sounds an awful lot like the Performance Index ratings assigned to cars in Forza 2. The number of points determines your car's class, and can be raised (and in some cases, lowered) by buying upgrades...hmm...I wonder where Polyphony got that idea? My guess is the same place they got the idea for the dynamically adjusting driving line. :wink:

[QUOTE="paullywog"]forza 2 will quench my racing game thirst for years to come. it's sweet. i may rent upcoming ones like pg5(assuming it's coming) and GRiD, but forza is the only permanent fixture on my shelf for racing.BrownWalrus

I completely agree with you there. I haven't ever enjoyed a racing game as much as I have Forza 2.

I'm sure the ;) at the end made you feel like the coolest person on earth, didn't it? :roll:

As for the better game? In my opinon, it's GT5 (well only the prologue is out but even that is proving so much already, even with the absence of damage, modifying car parts, etc). It's the most realistic driving experience outside of the real world that you will ever get, perdiod. Plus, i enjoy driving in this game far more than in games like Burnout: Paradise. I guess it just depends if you like arcade vs realistic simulator.

Awwww...Classic Ad Hominem, isn't that cute. :lol:

Well you can have your opinion regarding the game and I'll have mine. Based on what I've played of the two games, Forza 2 is the better simulator.

Good points. At the end of the day Forza2 left me wondering if the genre was just played out for me. I really did not like it. GT5P is deffinatyl my game of choice.

P.S. Nice to see PD0 sigs and such. I assume you liked that game? I really liked PD0 but I thought I was the only one.

Coyo7e

These sigs are more of an homage to the original PD than PDZ. While I enjoyed PDZ, the original is still my favorite game of all time.

[QUOTE="Coyo7e"]

Good points. At the end of the day Forza2 left me wondering if the genre was just played out for me. I really did not like it. GT5P is deffinatyl my game of choice.

P.S. Nice to see PD0 sigs and such. I assume you liked that game? I really liked PD0 but I thought I was the only one.

The_Game21x

These sigs are more of an homage to the original PD than PDZ. While I enjoyed PDZ, the original is still my favorite game of all time.

I am guilty of off topic but ..... PD is one of the few games I have ever played that made me queasy and sick to my stomach. I could never tell you how I felt about the game because I could not play it for 15 minutes without getting sick. And that is not a joke or a bash, I literally got sick playing that game for some reason.

It was also before I wanted to give console shooters the time of day. I blamed the illness on blury textures and resolution but who knows.

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="Coyo7e"]

Good points. At the end of the day Forza2 left me wondering if the genre was just played out for me. I really did not like it. GT5P is deffinatyl my game of choice.

P.S. Nice to see PD0 sigs and such. I assume you liked that game? I really liked PD0 but I thought I was the only one.

Coyo7e

These sigs are more of an homage to the original PD than PDZ. While I enjoyed PDZ, the original is still my favorite game of all time.

I am guilty of off topic but ..... PD is one of the few games I have ever played that made me queasy and sick to my stomach. I could never tell you how I felt about the game because I could not play it for 15 minutes without getting sick. And that is not a joke or a bash, I literally got sick playing that game for some reason.

It was also before I wanted to give console shooters the time of day. I blamed the illness on blury textures and resolution but who knows.

No, no that's cool. PD ran pretty choppy on the N64, which could lead to some unfortunate motion sickness. it didn't hit me too hard so I guess I was lucky.

Lookin good, Lookin good.Hockey_Slayer

i kno, rite?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cfmk_1_et5g

That looks like nothing but a hack session and rewards nothing to the better driver..

Plain and simple yea cant cut underneath @ 135 MPH...hit the REAR quarter panel..not spin or take any damage in real life or in FM2..While FM2 does not look as well ( i would hope not the game is over a year old) It's gameplay walks all over GT5P..

Will the final build make huge leaps and bounds in physics..i really do hope so..The game looks great..it just needs to play a whole lot better...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cfmk_1_et5g

While the game looks gorgeous...My problem is seen in the first 45 seconds of this clip...Anyone that says GT5P has better driving physics has to be freaking nuts...

That looks like nothing but a hack session and rewards nothing to the better driver..

Plain and simple yea cant cut underneath @ 135 MPH...hit the REAR quarter panel..not spin or take any damage in real life or in FM2..While FM2 does not look as well ( i would hope not the game is over a year old) It's gameplay walks all over GT5P..

Will the final build make huge leaps and bounds in physics..i really do hope so..The game looks great..it just needs to play a whole lot better...

masiisam

It's in KMH, not MPH....

Actually thats very realistic. Evolutions are really good at handling. They are one of the best at traction and steering.

It's really too bad the online is so darn poor. Polyphony better step up their game.

BioShockOwnz

This comment makes me think you only played the game once or twice online.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cfmk_1_et5g

While the game looks gorgeous...My problem is seen in the first 45 seconds of this clip..masiisam

How about trying the game for yourself. Physics are real, every car drives differently, you can feel the difference in drivetrains, and you can't race like that online anymore at least. There is penalties for bumping...If you race like that your pretty much out of the race

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cfmk_1_et5g

While the game looks gorgeous...My problem is seen in the first 45 seconds of this clip..f50p90

How about trying the game for yourself. Physics are real, every car drives differently, you can feel the difference in drivetrains, and you can't race like that online anymore at least. There is penalties for bumping...If you race like that your pretty much out of the race