Gran Turismo 5 vs Forza 3

The forza series will have superior physics, The physics engine runs at 360FPS, models tire deformation, heat across surface of tire, expansion of gasses due to heat inside the tire. Turn 10 has also said that due to being able to roll the cars, they have undone some of the dumbing down it requires to prevent cars from being prone to roll, such as stiffening the springs at weird points, or lowering the center of mass. This will result in making the game extremely more realistic.

Forza we know has damage, proformance affecting damage, brakes wear out, you messup your body you lose top speed and downforce, you hit something and knock your toe in, and can feel it. Gt5 has a hint to damage, that will most likely be just Rally and Nascar,

The forza series has unmatched online. The only drawback being 8 cars, they still put a giant focus on this area, Forza 2 having more than we know will be in gt5 in this area, such as the auction house, support of tuning garages, support of leauges, unicorn cars(Cars only turn 10 can give players) They say 3 will add much more features, will rival anygame in online features, not just the racing genre. Things like being able to make/edit and upload 720P videos to the website, along with pictures. The livery creater added ALOT to forza 2,

You can seeTurn 10'smentality of online by just looking at some videos, they talk about how they almost wanna make it a sandbox type thing, like instead of giving players things, They give them the tools to do whatever in thier words "Almost like saying here, have these tools, I know you'll be much more creative than we are with it"

Ok, gt5 has nascar, Dangreenwalt has said "We have even added stock cars to the game, along with the inclusion of more ovals" So maybe forza will have some kind of nascar too (Nascar = National association of STOCK CAR auto racing) even if not there is still ovals, Forza 3 will have drag racing, theres clutch support now, that fanatech wheel just as good, if not better than G25,

Rally, is a big pro for GT, but it's always been halfbaked in the other GT games, It still won't rival standalone rally games.

Gt5 will have an f1 car, cool, forza has most of the leman series cars, from every class.

I love both and will be buying both. But in my oppinion forza is better. And I have seen nothing the truely challenges that.

The forza series will have superior physics, The physics engine runs at 360FPS, models tire deformation, heat across surface of tire, expansion of gasses due to heat inside the tire. Turn 10 has also said that due to being able to roll the cars, they have undone some of the dumbing down it requires to prevent cars from being prone to roll, such as stiffening the springs at weird points, or lowering the center of mass. This will result in making the game extremely more realistic.

Forza we know has damage, proformance affecting damage, brakes wear out, you messup your body you lose top speed and downforce, you hit something and knock your toe in, and can feel it. Gt5 has a hint to damage, that will most likely be just Rally and Nascar,

The forza series has unmatched online. The only drawback being 8 cars, they still put a giant focus on this area, Forza 2 having more than we know will be in gt5 in this area, such as the auction house, support of tuning garages, support of leauges, unicorn cars(Cars only turn 10 can give players) They say 3 will add much more features, will rival anygame in online features, not just the racing genre. Things like being able to make/edit and upload 720P videos to the website, along with pictures. The livery creater added ALOT to forza 2,

You can see their mentality of online by just looking at some videos, they talk about how they almost wanna make it a sandbox type thing, like instead of giving players things, They give them the tools to do whatever in thier words "Almost like saying here, have these tools, I know you'll be much more creative than we are with it"

Ok, gt5 has nascar, Dangreenwalt has said "We have even added stock cars to the game, along with the inclusion of more ovals" So maybe forza will have some kind of nascar too (Nascar = National association of STOCK CAR auto racing) even if not there is still ovals, Forza 3 will have drag racing, theres clutch support now, that fanatech wheel just as good, if not better than G25,

Rally, is a big pro for GT, but it's always been halfbaked in the other GT games, It still won't rival standalone rally games.

Gt5 will have an f1 car, cool, forza has most of the leman series cars, from every class.

I love both and will be buying both. But in my oppinion forza is better. And I have seen nothing the truely challenges that.

Tobin09

The forza series will have superior physics, The physics engine runs at 360FPS, models tire deformation, heat across surface of tire, expansion of gasses due to heat inside the tire. Turn 10 has also said that due to being able to roll the cars, they have undone some of the dumbing down it requires to prevent cars from being prone to roll, such as stiffening the springs at weird points, or lowering the center of mass. This will result in making the game extremely more realistic.

Forza we know has damage, proformance affecting damage, brakes wear out, you messup your body you lose top speed and downforce, you hit something and knock your toe in, and can feel it. Gt5 has a hint to damage, that will most likely be just Rally and Nascar,

The forza series has unmatched online. The only drawback being 8 cars, they still put a giant focus on this area, Forza 2 having more than we know will be in gt5 in this area, such as the auction house, support of tuning garages, support of leauges, unicorn cars(Cars only turn 10 can give players) They say 3 will add much more features, will rival anygame in online features, not just the racing genre. Things like being able to make/edit and upload 720P videos to the website, along with pictures. The livery creater added ALOT to forza 2,

You can see their mentality of online by just looking at some videos, they talk about how they almost wanna make it a sandbox type thing, like instead of giving players things, They give them the tools to do whatever in thier words "Almost like saying here, have these tools, I know you'll be much more creative than we are with it"

Ok, gt5 has nascar, Dangreenwalt has said "We have even added stock cars to the game, along with the inclusion of more ovals" So maybe forza will have some kind of nascar too (Nascar = National association of STOCK CAR auto racing) even if not there is still ovals, Forza 3 will have drag racing, theres clutch support now, that fanatech wheel just as good, if not better than G25,

Rally, is a big pro for GT, but it's always been halfbaked in the other GT games, It still won't rival standalone rally games.

Gt5 will have an f1 car, cool, forza has most of the leman series cars, from every class.

I love both and will be buying both. But in my oppinion forza is better. And I have seen nothing the truely challenges that.

Tobin09

so you already seen gt5 feature set ?

im sorry but that is way to much effort on something you dont know yet about gt5

[QUOTE="masiisam"]

[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"] Wheel support is especially huge, it makes a huge difference on driving games. That alone makes GranTurismo a much better experience.nyctota

You already know Fanatec is offering third party support? We have discussed that to death..So are we back to square one:?

im sorry but g25 is the windows in wheel world

there is no wheel that will come closeespecially not from fanatec

That's kinda funny..but reviews are already saying it's on the same level......Keep at it though....Don't let the past excuses/arguments die off..

EDIT: wrong link posted

The forza series will have superior physics, The physics engine runs at 360FPS, models tire deformation, heat across surface of tire, expansion of gasses due to heat inside the tire. Turn 10 has also said that due to being able to roll the cars, they have undone some of the dumbing down it requires to prevent cars from being prone to roll, such as stiffening the springs at weird points, or lowering the center of mass. This will result in making the game extremely more realistic.

Forza we know has damage, proformance affecting damage, brakes wear out, you messup your body you lose top speed and downforce, you hit something and knock your toe in, and can feel it. Gt5 has a hint to damage, that will most likely be just Rally and Nascar,

The forza series has unmatched online. The only drawback being 8 cars, they still put a giant focus on this area, Forza 2 having more than we know will be in gt5 in this area, such as the auction house, support of tuning garages, support of leauges, unicorn cars(Cars only turn 10 can give players) They say 3 will add much more features, will rival anygame in online features, not just the racing genre. Things like being able to make/edit and upload 720P videos to the website, along with pictures. The livery creater added ALOT to forza 2,

You can see their mentality of online by just looking at some videos, they talk about how they almost wanna make it a sandbox type thing, like instead of giving players things, They give them the tools to do whatever in thier words "Almost like saying here, have these tools, I know you'll be much more creative than we are with it"

Ok, gt5 has nascar, Dangreenwalt has said "We have even added stock cars to the game, along with the inclusion of more ovals" So maybe forza will have some kind of nascar too (Nascar = National association of STOCK CAR auto racing) even if not there is still ovals, Forza 3 will have drag racing, theres clutch support now, that fanatech wheel just as good, if not better than G25,

Rally, is a big pro for GT, but it's always been halfbaked in the other GT games, It still won't rival standalone rally games.

Gt5 will have an f1 car, cool, forza has most of the leman series cars, from every class.

I love both and will be buying both. But in my oppinion forza is better. And I have seen nothing the truely challenges that.

Tobin09

Wow! Best answer ever in a GT vs Forza thread. Nice one.

[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="epyonx3"]I haven't played Forza but I have seen various gameplay demo's including E3's Forza 3 live demo. I've played Gran Turismo 3, 4 and prologue. Based on what I've seen from the E3 trailer for GT5 I have to say that it beats what I've seen from Forza. There's even a hint of damage finally coming to gt5 which is what many people believe is a fatal flaw of previous GT games. What does Forza 3 bring that GT5 wont?epyonx3

You: "Based on what I've seen from the E3 trailer for GT5 I have to say that it beats what I've seen from Forza"

If you didn't mean that then perhaps you could have worded it better. Apologies if I took it the wrong way.

Sadly most of the cool features of GT5 are complete speculation, and forza already has a 1up on proven experience.

Here's my predictions:

GT5 will have a ton more cars, but forza will have a better variety.

GT5 will have more racing, tuning, and player options, but forza will have better damage, AI, customization, and online.

Forza will also sell more copies.

I'm probably going to buy both games anyway.

jrhawk42

I have a funnier question: What does GT5 bring that Forza 3 wont have? :Daaronmullan

[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"][QUOTE="nyctota"]

lol....

gt5 graphics is way better

http://www.gametrailers.com/user-movie/gran-turismo-5-vs-forza-3/321268

forza has 8 cars on track gt5 has 16 8=/=16

gt5 still has a f1 car and forza none

google is your friend if you wanna see evidence about weather

we are talking about gt5 vs forza not gt5 vs PGR

g25 wheel >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ms wheel

see i just made my post stronger

masiisam

You already know Fanatec is offering third party support? We have discussed that to death..So are we back to square one:?

[QUOTE="masiisam"]

[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"] Wheel support is especially huge, it makes a huge difference on driving games. That alone makes GranTurismo a much better experience.EmperorSupreme

You already know Fanatec is offering third party support? We have discussed that to death..So are we back to square one:?

[QUOTE="masiisam"]

You already know Fanatec is offering third party support? We have discussed that to death..So are we back to square one:?

EmperorSupreme

That makes absolutely no sense.

You first had to buy the wheel for your PC in the first place, did you not? If so, how would that be any different than someone buying the Fanatec wheel for the 360?

Sadly most of the cool features of GT5 are complete speculation, and forza already has a 1up on proven experience.

Here's my predictions:

GT5 will have a ton more cars, but forza will have a better variety.

GT5 will have more racing, tuning, and player options, but forza will have better damage, AI, customization, and online.

Forza will also sell more copies.

I'm probably going to buy both games anyway.

jrhawk42

no it wont, i can almost guarantee that. and i think it'd be best to wait on more info to be released on GT5 before making statements like these.

[QUOTE="masiisam"]

[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"] Wheel support is especially huge, it makes a huge difference on driving games. That alone makes GranTurismo a much better experience.EmperorSupreme

You already know Fanatec is offering third party support? We have discussed that to death..So are we back to square one:?

And? So now there is a wheel that can be used on the PS3/PC/360...

How does( "Wheel support is especially huge, it makes a huge difference on driving games. That alone makes GranTurismo a much better experience") that make GT5 a "much better experance"?

[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]Yes but my wheel for my PC works with my PS3 so it cost me nothing extra. With Forza you are stuck buying another overpriced accessory for your 360The_Game21x

That makes absolutely no sense.

You first had to buy the wheel for your PC in the first place, did you not? If so, how would that be any different than someone buying the Fanatec wheel for the 360?

Sadly most of the cool features of GT5 are complete speculation, and forza already has a 1up on proven experience.

Here's my predictions:

GT5 will have a ton more cars, but forza will have a better variety.

GT5 will have more racing, tuning, and player options, but forza will have better damage, AI, customization, and online.

Forza will also sell more copies.

I'm probably going to buy both games anyway.

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]Yes but my wheel for my PC works with my PS3 so it cost me nothing extra. With Forza you are stuck buying another overpriced accessory for your 360EmperorSupreme

That makes absolutely no sense.

You first had to buy the wheel for your PC in the first place, did you not? If so, how would that be any different than someone buying the Fanatec wheel for the 360?

I could say the same about people who bought the Driving Force GT and upgraded to the G25. :?

With GT, you can use whatever wheels Logitech has designed or a few other third party wheels. the 360 also has a number of third party wheels (including a Logitech wheel, but it's not that great) to choose from. Before the announcement that the Fanatec wheel would be the official wheel of Forza 3, you could've went to the site and purchased one (it was released in early 2008) instead of the official MS wheel.

This has nothing to do with MS being greedy. There have been wheels made for the 360 since 2006.

GT5 > Forza 3

;)

Forza 3 for the gameplay, GT5 for the graphics, and since SW cares more about graphics kings than gameplay kings(does that even exist):

GT5>Forza 3.:P

Forza 3 for the gameplay, GT5 for the graphics, and since SW cares more about graphics kings than gameplay kings(does that even exist):

GT5>Forza 3.:P

Forza 3 for the gameplay, GT5 for the graphics, and since SW cares more about graphics kings than gameplay kings(does that even exist):

GT5>Forza 3.:P

I have a funnier question: What does GT5 bring that Forza 3 wont have? :Daaronmullan

[QUOTE="epyonx3"][QUOTE="heretrix"] You never played any Forza game, but you are assuming that GT 5 will be better based on a concept video and your previous experience with a game that has never been better than Forza.

heretrix

You: "Based on what I've seen from the E3 trailer for GT5 I have to say that it beats what I've seen from Forza"

If you didn't mean that then perhaps you could have worded it better. Apologies if I took it the wrong way.

Fact of the matter is there is gonna be more to F3 than GT5, period.