Gran Turismo 5 will have WRC and NASCAR, what will Forza 3 have?

So...people are assuming GT5 will only have the same features as GT4 and GT5P? lol You should wait until we get concrete details on GT5 before claiming F3 is better. Some of you sound almost as pathetic as MS @ e3 and their arrogant "definitive racer for the generation" drivel. It's bad enough claiming one game is better than another before reviews are out...but this is just wow.

You know... just because its in the target render trailer doesn't mean its going to make the final product. Secondly, since whe does having WRC rally cars and NASCAR racing cars mean they are having an actual racing league associated with the licenses?

And since when does having two types of racing cars beat out massive customization for tuning and painting, completely dynamic career mode, a physics engine that rivals PC sims, has enough new features to call this an entirely new series and comes out in less than three months. before GT5 even gets actual gameplay footage.

Sorry GT fanboys... but Forza is now that king... and has been since the first iteration came out on the Xbox.

foxhound_fox

I could easily say the same thing about the pic in your sig, not having a release date makes a game crap :|

This no release date nonsense should be put to rest but I think Forza fanboys are being irrational these days.

And since when people judged a game before even release :?

So...people are assuming GT5 will only have the same features as GT4 and GT5P? lol You should wait until we get concrete details on GT5 before claiming F3 is better. Some of you sound almost as pathetic as MS @ e3 and their arrogant "definitive racer for the generation" drivel. It's bad enough claiming one game is better than another before reviews are out...but this is just wow.

ultima-flare

[QUOTE="DJ_Lae"] Given the incredible evolutionary gameplay advancements Polyphony made in the trip from GT2 to GT3 to GT4 to GT5P, I think it's safe to say that GT5 will be nothing more than Gran Turismo 2 with shinier graphics.ultima-flare

[QUOTE="PBSnipes"]

Off the top of my head:

• Livery editor
• Deeper tuning options
• Second-to-none online community
• Leaderboards for all disciplines (ie racers, painters and tuners)
• Superior physics engine
• Porsche and Lamborghini licenses

And most importantly:

• A release date

AdobeArtist

And THIS is why GT doesn't even come close to Forza.

forza is a failsauce for not having NASCAR firstsethman410

And what would that make GT for not having Ferrari first? Mega Failtacular? ;)

lmao. And you know GT5 won't have any of those things... how? So FM3 has better physics does it? So youve played both games? :|

This is seriously pathetic. If GT5 turns out to be the better game, it will be the biggest ownage in the history of system wars

It will actually be released this generation.

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

You know... just because its in the target render trailer doesn't mean its going to make the final product. Secondly, since whe does having WRC rally cars and NASCAR racing cars mean they are having an actual racing league associated with the licenses?

And since when does having two types of racing cars beat out massive customization for tuning and painting, completely dynamic career mode, a physics engine that rivals PC sims, has enough new features to call this an entirely new series and comes out in less than three months. before GT5 even gets actual gameplay footage.

Sorry GT fanboys... but Forza is now that king... and has been since the first iteration came out on the Xbox.

HAZE-Unit

I could easily say the same thing about the pic in your sig, not having a release date makes a game crap :|

This no release date nonsense should be put to rest but I think Forza fanboys are being irrational these days.

And since when people judged a game before even release :?

I think GT5 is coming this year. Kaz has said the game "can be released at anytime". It wasn't at e3, besides the trailer, because they wanted the focus on GT PSP. Plus, with MAG and other stuff delayed, Sony doesn't really have a big hitter for Nov/Dec. Surely they can't expect Uncharted 2(Oct 13th) and Ratchet to hold them off through the holidays.ultima-flare

[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

You know... just because its in the target render trailer doesn't mean its going to make the final product. Secondly, since whe does having WRC rally cars and NASCAR racing cars mean they are having an actual racing league associated with the licenses?

And since when does having two types of racing cars beat out massive customization for tuning and painting, completely dynamic career mode, a physics engine that rivals PC sims, has enough new features to call this an entirely new series and comes out in less than three months. before GT5 even gets actual gameplay footage.

Sorry GT fanboys... but Forza is now that king... and has been since the first iteration came out on the Xbox.

djestar

I could easily say the same thing about the pic in your sig, not having a release date makes a game crap :|

This no release date nonsense should be put to rest but I think Forza fanboys are being irrational these days.

And since when people judged a game before even release :?

Well obviously GT5 will be better than GT5p, there will be damage and thats a big change like Forza fans claim, damage included = best game ever.

[QUOTE="djestar"]

[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

I could easily say the same thing about the pic in your sig, not having a release date makes a game crap :|

This no release date nonsense should be put to rest but I think Forza fanboys are being irrational these days.

And since when people judged a game before even release :?

HAZE-Unit

Well obviously GT5 will be better than GT5p, there will be damage and thats a big change like Forza fans claim, damage included = best game ever.

[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

[QUOTE="djestar"] For the same reason people claim GT5 will be better when it hasn't even released. There has not even been any gameplay footage released apart from a concept video and somehow GT5 is going to be better?

djestar

Well obviously GT5 will be better than GT5p, there will be damage and thats a big change like Forza fans claim, damage included = best game ever.

Your sarcasm detector is off today, I said according to Forza fans this feature means best game ever.

Forza3 will probably have better graphics, better gameplay and car costumization!

[QUOTE="djestar"]

[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

I could easily say the same thing about the pic in your sig, not having a release date makes a game crap :|

This no release date nonsense should be put to rest but I think Forza fanboys are being irrational these days.

And since when people judged a game before even release :?

HAZE-Unit

Well obviously GT5 will be better than GT5p, there will be damage and thats a big change like Forza fans claim, damage included = best game ever.

[QUOTE="djestar"][QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

Well obviously GT5 will be better than GT5p, there will be damage and thats a big change like Forza fans claim, damage included = best game ever.

HAZE-Unit

Your sarcasm detector is off today, I said according to Forza fans this feature means best game ever.

I heard it has better backgrounds, but then that doesn't really help the gameplay.

PSdual_wielder

[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

[QUOTE="djestar"] For the same reason people claim GT5 will be better when it hasn't even released. There has not even been any gameplay footage released apart from a concept video and somehow GT5 is going to be better?

rybe1025

Well obviously GT5 will be better than GT5p, there will be damage and thats a big change like Forza fans claim, damage included = best game ever.

We have to wait and see, they teased us with the damage so that was exciting to see a car in GT gets damaged, down the line we will know everything.

And LMAO at "can you flip cars like forza?" funny heheh.

As for the "will it be for every race?" what kind of question is this? lol.

Ya I know the damage in Forza 2 how it was like, it's good, did I see a car explode? or burning? no I thought I will see something like that but I didn't, all I experienced was something already in alot of other games, so yea the different levels crap didn't make it that much different.

So don't over do it with Forza 2's features ok :)

[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

[QUOTE="djestar"] So you're claiming GT5 will be the best game ever just because it has damage now? djestar

Your sarcasm detector is off today, I said according to Forza fans this feature means best game ever.

I said in my original post GT5 will obviously be better than past GT games because it will include damage.

And we don't know anything about GT5, maybe it will surpass Forza 3 and maybe not but jumping to conclusions before even we saw anything and before we even didn't play Forza 3 yet is going too faraway.

[QUOTE="rybe1025"]

[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

Well obviously GT5 will be better than GT5p, there will be damage and thats a big change like Forza fans claim, damage included = best game ever.

HAZE-Unit

We have to wait and see, they teased us with the damage so that was exciting to see a car in GT gets damaged, down the line we will know everything.

And LMAO at "can you flip cars like forza?" funny heheh.

As for the "will it be for every race?" what kind of question is this? lol.

Ya I know the damage in Forza 2 how it was like, it's good, did I see a car explode? or burning? no I thought I will see something like that but I didn't, all I experienced was something already in alot of other games, so yea the different levels crap didn't make it that much different.

So don't over do it with Forza 2's features ok :)

i dont care which will offer more stuff, both will be amazing titles and luckily i'll get both... Cant wait for Forza3, loved Forza2... Also cant wait for an official release date for GT5 (hopefully a dec 09 release date) :P

lmao. And you know GT5 won't have any of those things... how? So FM3 has better physics does it? So youve played both games? :|

This is seriously pathetic. If GT5 turns out to be the better game, it will be the biggest ownage in the history of system wars

EliteKitteh

In 5 iterations, the GT franchose hasn't had damage. Even if they incorporate now, it's up against developers who have had far more experience with it. Plus there IS a far more established online racing community in Forza, since it had that feature since the 6th generation that consists of both racers, and people sharing their custom car designs with the comprehensive livery editor.

The track record is heavily slanted in favor of Forza and GT has a LOT to catch up on, besides just the damage factor. This isn't opinion, it's fact.

So...people are assuming GT5 will only have the same features as GT4 and GT5P? lol You should wait until we get concrete details on GT5 before claiming F3 is better. Some of you sound almost as pathetic as MS @ e3 and their arrogant "definitive racer for the generation" drivel. It's bad enough claiming one game is better than another before reviews are out...but this is just wow.

ultima-flare

Not any where near as arrogant as stamping a claim like "The Real Driving Simulator" on your box when the game uses a gameplay model from 15 years ago, and basically fails to catch up with standards set by other racers (damage physics). Having that on the box today is blatant false advertising.

right now, ign and other gaming sites are giving whole 3 page articles based on forza 3's gameplay, online community, and everything else about the game. plus it has a release date thats been confirmed and coming out in less than 3 months. right NOW, forza 3 is getting a lot more attention because alot of things have been showcased for the game. on the other hand gt5 hasn't had anything to show for it. i hate when ps3 fanboys say "just wait until details are shown about the game and what everyone is going to say". i have a ps3 and a 360 and right now im definitely leaning toward forza 3, simply because they have had a lot to show for the game and everyone is excited for it.

I think GT5 is coming this year. Kaz has said the game "can be released at anytime". It wasn't at e3, besides the trailer, because they wanted the focus on GT PSP. Plus, with MAG and other stuff delayed, Sony doesn't really have a big hitter for Nov/Dec. Surely they can't expect Uncharted 2(Oct 13th) and Ratchet to hold them off through the holidays.ultima-flare

Who would rather have separate fully realized games for WRC and NASCAR racing rather than having them all in run-of-the-mill-package that won't even be fully realized?Salt_The_Fries

[QUOTE="ultima-flare"]I think GT5 is coming this year. Kaz has said the game "can be released at anytime". It wasn't at e3, besides the trailer, because they wanted the focus on GT PSP. Plus, with MAG and other stuff delayed, Sony doesn't really have a big hitter for Nov/Dec. Surely they can't expect Uncharted 2(Oct 13th) and Ratchet to hold them off through the holidays.lowe0

Off the top of my head:

• Livery editor
• Deeper tuning options
• Second-to-none online community
• Leaderboards for all disciplines (ie racers, painters and tuners)
• Superior physics engine
• Porsche and Lamborghini licenses

And most importantly:

• A release date

PBSnipes

[QUOTE="Salt_The_Fries"]Who would rather have separate fully realized games for WRC and NASCAR racing rather than having them all in run-of-the-mill-package that won't even be fully realized?10thwonder

[QUOTE="-Pred-Alien-"][QUOTE="Rza_rectah"] The GT franchise has a larger fan base and PS has free online. Forza 2 didnt have any competition when it was released so i fail to see your point. He said it will have a bigger online but that fact is based on nothing. Since gt 5 is more of a beta then a game.

Rza_rectah

I wouldn't say the sales figures for GT5p are entirely accurate as the game was bundled in the box of a hell of a lot of PS3's, I wouldn't own it had it not come with my PS3.

lol @ the fanboys just praying that GT5 will be a bad game. Prologue proved that they have the layout for making the gameplay great.Androvinus

The GT franchise has a larger fan base and PS has free online.

Rza_rectah

From the concept demo that I saw (which is ingame, we can admit)Polyphony has gone under quite and undertaking. The game looks to expand exponentially on what GT5:P introduced. Think of how big compared to the rest of a book a prologue is, it is barley scratching the surface. GT5 will be amazing and I think as groundbreaking as GT3:A-Spec was. Rally in GT3 was fun and realistic. NASCAR and WRC are huge additions and they will be fleshed out, it's the nature of Polyphony's respect for racecar driving. Only time will tell and hopefull it will be soon.

[QUOTE="Rza_rectah"]

The GT franchise has a larger fan base and PS has free online.

From the concept demo that I saw (which is ingame, we can admit)Polyphony has gone under quite and undertaking. The game looks to expand exponentially on what GT5:P introduced. Think of how big compared to the rest of a book a prologue is, it is barley scratching the surface. GT5 will be amazing and I think as groundbreaking as GT3:A-Spec was. Rally in GT3 was fun and realistic. NASCAR and WRC are huge additions and they will be fleshed out, it's the nature of Polyphony's respect for racecar driving. Only time will tell and hopefull it will be soon.

richsena

[QUOTE="xxyetixx"]

better gameplay, bigger online community

Rza_rectah

I could easily say the same thing about the pic in your sig, not having a release date makes a game crap :|

This no release date nonsense should be put to rest but I think Forza fanboys are being irrational these days.

And since when people judged a game before even release :?HAZE-Unit

Well obviously GT5 will be better than GT5p, there will be damage and thats a big change like Forza fans claim, damage included = best game ever.HAZE-Unit

Fans of the original GT requested that Kazunori put in damage consequences for GT2 (Winter Jampack '99). Damage has been a staple of the sim racing genre since around the time GT first came out. The game will be on its 7th iteration (after GT Mobile, there will have been 6 GT releases), it better have damage or it will be a laughing stock. Even Project Gotham Racing and GRID, two simcade games, can afford cosmetic damage modelling. Damage won't make anything the "best game ever," it will keep GT from being the "worst modern racing sim ever."

And most surprisingly, damage has yet to be confirmed a goal by Kazunori for GT5. Until we see a video showing real-time cosmetic damage and subsequent consequences for that damage in terms of performance... GT5 remains damage free.

lol @ the fanboys just praying that GT5 will be a bad game. Prologue proved that they have the layout for making the gameplay great.Androvinus