Gran Turismo games is out selling Forza games in this gen!

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#1 killeracer0210
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In way back to year 2005, did u know Gran Turismo 4 had dominated first Forza Motorsport sales.

Here is my report about why does Gran Turismo running over Forza sales in this gen.

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From now on: Gran Turismo sales in this gen:

GT5 Prologue sold 4.95 million units

GT PSP sold 1.96 million units

Total: 6.91 million units sold.

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Forza sales in this gen:

Forza Motorsport 2 sold 2.67 million units

Forza Motorsport 3 sold 2 million units

Total: 4.67 million units sold.

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6.91 million units VS 4.67 million units.

P.S do not bother me about the sales, but just let u know about this data, as i find sales data on wikipedia.


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#2 waltefmoney
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Source?

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#3 raskullibur
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Well Gran Turismo is obviously the better game
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#4 daveg1
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people buy anything these days lol..
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#6 kozzy1234
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Britney Spears and Soulja Boy also sold more then Ziggy Marley.. doesnt mean Spears or Soulja Boy make better music then Ziggy Marley..

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#7 kozzy1234
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[QUOTE="raskullibur"]Well Gran Turismo is obviously the better gamests106mat
GT is a way more established franchise than Forza, its the benchmark for racing games. if GT5 scores less than forza 3 on gamespot, there will be a mess in SW.

Forza has outscored GT since Forza has been around though bud, so even if Forza3 does outscore GT5 I dont see it being a huge deal, as Forza has out scored GT games in the past.

Love both series to be honest, Forza has really surprised me with its gameplay. I never thought Forza woudl be half as good as it is

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#8 SapSacPrime
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Are those figures for Prologue and GT PSP accurate? thats shocking if true and just proves how many people just blindly follow a brand name even when there is better available (this is in no way bad mouthing GT 1-5 because they are quality games).

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#10 SaltyMeatballs
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This is where MS learnt their tactics, like what they did with Halo Wars. Trick unsuspecting customers.
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#11 bleehum
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Source?

waltefmoney

Pretty sure this is what he used, and these numbers are as of June 2010.

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#12 Floppy_Jim
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Allow me to apply my monocle so it can fall off in shock. GT's popularity is common knowledge.
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#13 waltefmoney
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[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

Source?

bleehum

Pretty sure this is what he used, and these numbers are as of June 2010.

Okay, so what is his source for the Forza sales?

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Britney Spears and Soulja Boy also sold more then Ziggy Marley.. doesnt mean Spears or Soulja Boy make better music then Ziggy Marley..

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If people enjoys music they like who cares?
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#15 bleehum
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[QUOTE="bleehum"]

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

Source?

waltefmoney

Pretty sure this is what he used, and these numbers are as of June 2010.

Okay, so what is his source for the Forza sales?

Hell if I know.
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#16 popopatrol
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Justin Bieber is the most popular music artist in the world right now meaning he is far more talented and far more deserving than every other artist. Call me a belieber

lol who cares about sales, they are both good games. but you wouldn't know since you probably never played both of them TC

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[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]This is where MS learnt their tactics, like what they did with Halo Wars. Trick unsuspecting customers.

Tactics?
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Justin Bieber is the most popular music artist in the world right now meaning he is far more talented and far more deserving than every other artist. Call me a belieber

lol who cares about sales, they are both good games. but you wouldn't know since you probably never played both of them TC

popopatrol

I would call you heaps of stuff if there was no risk of moderation. What difference does it make if he hasn't played either of the games? TC's just commenting on how GT is outselling Forza, not which one he thinks is better.

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#19 popopatrol
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[QUOTE="popopatrol"]

Justin Bieber is the most popular music artist in the world right now meaning he is far more talented and far more deserving than every other artist. Call me a belieber

lol who cares about sales, they are both good games. but you wouldn't know since you probably never played both of them TC

paranoidpixie95

I would call you heaps of stuff if there was no risk of moderation. What difference does it make if he hasn't played either of the games? TC's just commenting on how GT is outselling Forza, not which one he thinks is better.

lol how naive can you be to not read the subtext... Of course TC is implying that GT is better than Forza, this is SW. Here sales determines a games worth, that and grafffixsss

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#20 iammason
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This "report" is a fallacy. You need some credible source to back up those numbers, otherwise many people will take your report as just plain ol' jibber jabber.
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#21 dovberg
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the only thing I could find on forza 3 sales was vgchartz and I know they aren't the most accurate but they are not too far off usually either and they say that 3 sold more than 2 mil after 20 weeks. Like I said accuracy but I think these forza numbers are under what might be true. Ok I looked around more and it is mentioned here that is sold 2 mil back in february.

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#22 paranoidpixie95
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[QUOTE="paranoidpixie95"]

[QUOTE="popopatrol"]

Justin Bieber is the most popular music artist in the world right now meaning he is far more talented and far more deserving than every other artist. Call me a belieber

lol who cares about sales, they are both good games. but you wouldn't know since you probably never played both of them TC

popopatrol

I would call you heaps of stuff if there was no risk of moderation. What difference does it make if he hasn't played either of the games? TC's just commenting on how GT is outselling Forza, not which one he thinks is better.

lol how naive can you be to not read the subtext... Of course TC is implying that GT is better than Forza, this is SW. Here sales determines a games worth, that and grafffixsss

Have a look, he says he's just saying. At the very bottom.

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#23 KaoSXFACTOR
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So sales matter again? Or should I say sales matter when GT5 is involved; but when we talk about Halo then it not....

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#24 danish-death
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GT selling more than Forza is a no brainer - the real question however is if the game will be better.
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#25 popopatrol
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[QUOTE="popopatrol"]

[QUOTE="paranoidpixie95"]

I would call you heaps of stuff if there was no risk of moderation. What difference does it make if he hasn't played either of the games? TC's just commenting on how GT is outselling Forza, not which one he thinks is better.

paranoidpixie95

lol how naive can you be to not read the subtext... Of course TC is implying that GT is better than Forza, this is SW. Here sales determines a games worth, that and grafffixsss

Have a look, he says he's just saying. At the very bottom.

*facepalm

if you truly think that this thread was meant to purely inform people like us about sales of two competing exclusive titles using unsourced numbers and have nothing to do with debating which game is better, then go ahead.

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#26 ManicAce
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GT5P and GT PSP were priced lower though. I'm surprised GT5P sold that much, it's a pretty weak game for a GT title. I wouldn't be surprised if some of the people who bought it will become prejudiced towards the actual GT5 game and change their mind about bying it.
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#27 shinrabanshou
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Cool story bro? What's your point, GT's bankability is well known. The Forza games have sold fine.

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#28 killerfist
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And this should be a surprise? GT is a well known name.
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#29 iMojo786_PSN
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GT is the Ps3's Halo....but just better and less milked :P

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GT is the Ps3's Halo....but just better and less milked :P

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Least Halo doesn't release "prologue" demos for 40 :P
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[QUOTE="iMojo786_PSN"]

GT is the Ps3's Halo....but just better and less milked :P

locopatho

Least Halo doesn't release "prologue" demos for 40 :P

Expansion at full price instead..?

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[QUOTE="iMojo786_PSN"]

GT is the Ps3's Halo....but just better and less milked :P

locopatho
Least Halo doesn't release "prologue" demos for 40 :P

lol since Halo is here... Halo ODST... nough said.
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#34 waltefmoney
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GT is the Ps3's Halo....but just better and less profitable :P

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Fix'd :P

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Mario Kart pwns both. :P
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#36 bleehum
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using unsourced numbers popopatrol

Gran Turismo numbers are from here, as of June 2010. No idea where he got Forza numbers, probably VGChartz (lolz).

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#37 waltefmoney
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[QUOTE="popopatrol"] using unsourced numbers bleehum

Gran Turismo numbers are from here, as of June 2010. No idea where he got Forza numbers, probably VGChartz (lolz).

It's not VGChartz. VGChartz says Forza 2 sold 4.02 million and Forza 3 sold 3.05 million, so he's using another source.

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#38 bleehum
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[QUOTE="bleehum"]

[QUOTE="popopatrol"] using unsourced numbers waltefmoney

Gran Turismo numbers are from here, as of June 2010. No idea where he got Forza numbers, probably VGChartz (lolz).

It's not VGChartz. VGChartz says Forza 2 sold 4.02 million and Forza 3 sold 3.05 million, so he's using another source.

Oh I see.
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This is where MS learnt their tactics, like what they did with Halo Wars. Trick unsuspecting customers.SaltyMeatballs

Halo Wars tricks unsespecting customers? all you have to do is look at the back of the box to know it's not an FPS

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#40 delta3074
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In way back to year 2005, did u know Gran Turismo 4 had dominated first Forza Motorsport sales.

Here is my report about Gran Turismo running over Forza sales in this gen.

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From now on: Gran Turismo sales in this gen:

GT5 Prologue sold 4.95 million units

GT PSP sold 1.96 million units

Total: 6.91 million units sold.

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Forza sales in this gen:

Forza Motorsport 2 sold 2.67 million units

Forza Motorsport 3 sold 2 million units

Total: 4.67 million units sold.

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6.91 million units VS 4.67 million units.

P.S do not bother me about the sales, but just let u know about this.


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shame they are not outscoring forza, good sales though, a solid franchise by all accounts.
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#41 delta3074
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[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="iMojo786_PSN"]

GT is the Ps3's Halo....but just better and less milked :P

JohnF111
Least Halo doesn't release "prologue" demos for 40 :P

lol since Halo is here... Halo ODST... nough said.

yeah but ODST isn't a demo and it has a full fleshed campaign plus extra's like firefight, ODST had the same content as most games in the FPS genre, i can complete MW2 campaign faster than Halo ODST campaign and i speed run games all the time,lol
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#42 tonitorsi
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[QUOTE="iMojo786_PSN"]

GT is the Ps3's Halo....but just better and less profitable :P

waltefmoney

Fix'd :P

Every GT game sold better than any Xbox 360 game. And the franchise has topped a total of 55 million sold worldwide. How is that not more profitable than Halo?

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#43 Doolz2024
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Well Gran Turismo is obviously the better gameraskullibur
Yep, that's why both Prologue and GT PSP scored AAA like Forza 2 and 3? Oh, wait....
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Forza 2's sold over 4 million and Forza 3's sold over 3 million from VGChartz. Hey....at least I have a source :P.
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[QUOTE="tonitorsi"]

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="iMojo786_PSN"]

GT is the Ps3's Halo....but just better and less profitable :P

Fix'd :P

Every GT game sold better than any Xbox 360 game. And the franchise has topped a total of 55 million sold worldwide. How is that not more profitable than Halo?

No, not even every main GT game has sold more than any 360 game. Halo 3 +MW2 (360) have sold more than GT2 and GT4.
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Good on the sales. Now how about the scores? ;)

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#47 tagyhag
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If I'm not mistaken, GT is the most popular series on the Playstation consoles.
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#48 waltefmoney
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[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="iMojo786_PSN"]

GT is the Ps3's Halo....but just better and less profitable :P

tonitorsi

Fix'd :P

Every GT game sold better than any Xbox 360 game. And the franchise has topped a total of 55 million sold worldwide. How is that not more profitable than Halo?

He said PS3. What PS3 GT game has sold more than Halo? :P

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#49 hexashadow13
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[QUOTE="tonitorsi"]

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

Fix'd :P

waltefmoney

Every GT game sold better than any Xbox 360 game. And the franchise has topped a total of 55 million sold worldwide. How is that not more profitable than Halo?

He said PS3. What PS3 GT game has sold more than Halo? :P

A demo (Prologue) outsold expansion pack (ODST). :P At least according to the numbers I can find. They're pretty outdated. Where do you guys find these numbers? Genuine question.
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#50 shinrabanshou
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A demo (Prologue) outsold expansion pack (ODST). :P At least according to the numbers I can find. They're pretty outdated. Where do you guys find these numbers? Genuine question.hexashadow13
The most official numbers come from publishers themselves.

Failing that NPD for the US, Media Create or Famitsu for Japan and Gfk-ChartTrack for Europe. ELSPA (now UKIE) used to give sales awards for games in the UK as well, which would give rough estimations for LTD e.g. >200k etc.