Graphical comparison: The Getaway PS3 looks better than GTA IV (56k warning)

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#51 donalbane
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[QUOTE="donalbane"]Getaway shots = proof of concept, CGI hokum. GTA shots = running in engine. Conclusion? You have no idea what the Getaway looks like.fuzzysquash
You = didn't read my original post.

Sure I did. I just don't believe Phil Harrison.  This is the man that said that Killzone 2 was running in real time at e3.
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#52 fuzzysquash
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Although I do agree The Getaway looks better, I don't think the screenshots do GTA justice; it looked a lot better in motion.-The-G-Man-
I agree with that, but The Getaway looks better in motion too.
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#53 fuzzysquash
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[QUOTE="fuzzysquash"][QUOTE="donalbane"]Getaway shots = proof of concept, CGI hokum. GTA shots = running in engine. Conclusion? You have no idea what the Getaway looks like.donalbane
You = didn't read my original post.

Sure I did. I just don't believe Phil Harrison. This is the man that said that Killzone 2 was running in real time at e3.

Did he provide a real-time demo proving it? :|
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#54 -voodoo_child-
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I think we're missing the point. The Getaway always had better graphics than GTA, it's gameplay that GTA excelled in.
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#55 proof11102
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for the lemroids that keep saying it was CGI...

"Eurogamer: So The Getaway was one of the things that was running on real hardware?

Phil Harrison: Yeah, good example - I mean, you could see actually, the way that those cameras worked. That zoom-in camera was done in real-time to capture the kind of video-like footage that we had."

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=59243

 

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#56 fuzzysquash
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I think we're missing the point. The Getaway always had better graphics than GTA, it's gameplay that GTA excelled in.-voodoo_child-
I think you missed my original post, because I said the exact same thing you did.
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#57 proof11102
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[QUOTE="fuzzysquash"][QUOTE="donalbane"]Getaway shots = proof of concept, CGI hokum. GTA shots = running in engine. Conclusion? You have no idea what the Getaway looks like.donalbane
You = didn't read my original post.

Sure I did. I just don't believe Phil Harrison.  This is the man that said that Killzone 2 was running in real time at e3.

:|Actually Phil isn't the one who said that, that was the short fat white guy. You don't even konw what you're talking about so you should't try to make yourself apart of the conversation.

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#58 bsin94
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Indeed, the Getaway tech demo was far more impressive, though I probably had higher expectations for GTAIV.
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#59 donalbane
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[QUOTE="donalbane"][QUOTE="fuzzysquash"][QUOTE="donalbane"]Getaway shots = proof of concept, CGI hokum. GTA shots = running in engine. Conclusion? You have no idea what the Getaway looks like.fuzzysquash
You = didn't read my original post.

Sure I did. I just don't believe Phil Harrison. This is the man that said that Killzone 2 was running in real time at e3.

Did he provide a real-time demo proving it? :|

Let's just say I wouldn't put it past him to fake it. And you can't blame me after the Sony showings at E3. Assuming you're right, and the Getaway does look that good (which I honestly hope it does... My PS3 is hungry for good looking, fun games) is the Getaway a great series? I never played it because the 1st one had terrible reviews. Let's not even bring up the terrible PSP version. Seems like Sony has a habit of showing tech displays such as this one for mediocre franchises, like Getaway and Killzone 2. Do people really want these mediocre franchises to continue, even wiith great visuals? I mean, I'm a graphics ho' and all, but if the gameplay isn't there, I'm out.
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#60 -voodoo_child-
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[QUOTE="-voodoo_child-"]I think we're missing the point. The Getaway always had better graphics than GTA, it's gameplay that GTA excelled in.fuzzysquash
I think you missed my original post, because I said the exact same thing you did.

Ah sorry, my mistake:P I only scan read the bottom half. I've read it now, but why did you think GTA would outshine The Getaway in terms of graphics? It's never concentrated on looks, unlike TG...
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#61 HellsAngel2c
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there is no denying that the Getaway LOOKS miles better than GTA.. However, the Getaway has never been a game with a lot of replay value, good gameplay or a strong story (especially with black monday) in my honest opinion

and for people who are saying that the Getaway is pre-rendered: at GDC there was some footage where they showed a controllable character's animations (although may not be main character). They had about four of the same guy, all in different walking cycles. Then, they all fell into different running cycles to show off the transition between walking animations and running. The character was then multiplied until there were hundreds of them in Piccadily circus, all in different stages of a walking animation. The characters, as well as the backround, looked exactly like the footage shown at e3. I would find a link, but i'm sure if you really want to prove me wrong you can search it yourself and point out WHY it is definatly CGI.

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#62 donalbane
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[QUOTE="donalbane"][QUOTE="fuzzysquash"][QUOTE="donalbane"]Getaway shots = proof of concept, CGI hokum. GTA shots = running in engine. Conclusion? You have no idea what the Getaway looks like.proof11102

You = didn't read my original post.

Sure I did. I just don't believe Phil Harrison. This is the man that said that Killzone 2 was running in real time at e3.

:|Actually Phil isn't the one who said that, that was the short fat white guy. You don't even konw what you're talking about so you should't try to make yourself apart of the conversation.

Listen carefully Mr Jr Mod, I will post whatever I want, and whenever I want, thanks very much. I am a PS3 owner and a paying member of this community, and have just as much right to post here as you or anyone else. Your implication that Sony has this sterling history of honesty and integrity regarding the abilities of it's new hardware shows your lack of objectivity on the subject.  And you're right, Phil Harrison merely stated that "elements of the actual game look better than the E3 footage."  Which elements?  The font?   
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#63 TheSystemLord1
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I know, I was kind of disappointed with the GTA4 graphics myself.  Throughout the trailer I had alot of, "a month for this?" moments.  I hope they clean it up, I'll still buy it though.
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#64 yoshi_64
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Wow, I never knew the difference was that big until now. I must admit,t eh GTA IV trailer didn't impress me either, mainly cause I've never been a fan of GTA or huge sanbox type games like this in particular. However, I do admit, I expected more from GTA now that I see the Getaway and GTA IV side by side. I was amazed by the demo at 05, and thought the same you did, but I just never cared to an extent like you Fuzzy, I guess. :P
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#65 tramp
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I personally prefer the cartoon style graphics of GTA over the Getaway. I think if GTA was photo realistic it would take away from its fun factor and humor, which is part of what makes it so much better than many of its clones.

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#66 donalbane
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Yo Fuzzy, is your point that PS3 exlusives are going to look better than multiplatform titles, the same way that games made for the Xbox looked better than games made for the Xbox AND PS2 last gen? Because that cetainly seems to be the case with titles like Motorstorm, which does look slightly better than a lot of the Xbox 360 titles out there.
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#67 Acenso
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E3 05 screens are automatically nullOemenia

That is what I was thinking LOL. Tell you one thing...Sony Fanboy 

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#68 OGTiago
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lmao, I remember a few years ago I was hyped about the getaway graphics on the ps2, it looked great. Then it came out, it looked just like any other game on ps2; what a let down... So I'll just wait.
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#69 Cedmln
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Wow... Some of you have been living in caves haven't you?

Those Getaway Screens are as real. The game always looked realistic. And they have video demonstrations of the game around the web.

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#70 Cedmln
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there is no denying that the Getaway LOOKS miles better than GTA.. However, the Getaway has never been a game with a lot of replay value, good gameplay or a strong story (especially with black monday) in my honest opinion

HellsAngel2c

Well I thought the story of The Getaway was very good. It was like a movie that you could play, but i certainly agree that Black monday blew chunks... But hey just oppinions :)

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#71 Cedmln
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I know, I was kind of disappointed with the GTA4 graphics myself.  Throughout the trailer I had alot of, "a month for this?" moments.  I hope they clean it up, I'll still buy it though.TheSystemLord1

What is there to clean? Those graphics are fantastic. Some of you guys just set your hopes sky high and owned yourselves for it.

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#72 -Pale
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[QUOTE="TheSystemLord1"]I know, I was kind of disappointed with the GTA4 graphics myself. Throughout the trailer I had alot of, "a month for this?" moments. I hope they clean it up, I'll still buy it though.Cedmln

What is there to clean? Those graphics are fantastic. Some of you guys just set your hopes sky high and owned yourselves for it.

Considering the scale of GTA games, GTA4 looks amazing. One great thing too is the unified lighting, everything casts a shadow and to be honest. After playing so much Gears of War, bumpy stuff just isn't that impressive. Especially when EVERYTHING is static.
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#73 fuzzysquash
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Yo Fuzzy, is your point that PS3 exlusives are going to look better than multiplatform titles, the same way that games made for the Xbox looked better than games made for the Xbox AND PS2 last gen? Because that cetainly seems to be the case with titles like Motorstorm, which does look slightly better than a lot of the Xbox 360 titles out there. donalbane
No, my point is just to express my disappointment for the GTA IV trailer, because GTA is one of my favorite franchises.
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#74 bindip
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those getaway shots are from e3 o5

 every think sony showed at e3 o5 was CGI..........gta looks better coz its propper in game shots 

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#75 ToScA-
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:? Actually...(and this goes for all the other people posting ignorant comments) it was realtime with a controllable camera.  Don't  make me own you fools.  But the point is still the same.   It might not look like that during game intensive applications. It's just the engine.

Now I don't know if this game will look like this in gameplay, I do know that this is running off PS3 hardware.  Much like the earliy screen of mass effect we saw before they showed actuall gameplay screens....

proof11102

Wtf are you talking about?:|

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#76 fuzzysquash
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[QUOTE="fuzzysquash"][QUOTE="-voodoo_child-"]I think we're missing the point. The Getaway always had better graphics than GTA, it's gameplay that GTA excelled in.-voodoo_child-
I think you missed my original post, because I said the exact same thing you did.

Ah sorry, my mistake:P I only scan read the bottom half. I've read it now, but why did you think GTA would outshine The Getaway in terms of graphics? It's never concentrated on looks, unlike TG...

it's cool. And to answer your question, I just thought that Rockstar would step it up in a big way this gen. GTA fanboy fantasies, I guess...
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#77 d_40
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err the getaway looks better because it is being developed for one console
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#78 lespaul1919
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E3 05 screens are automatically nullOemenia

yep. 

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#79 wemhim
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The Getaway and Mafia and the like aren't really free-roams, so they tend to look better. It's a totally different genre really, I'm not surprised. I'd compare it to Saints Row, which I expected it to resemble, instead, it looks way better.
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#80 snakeofsolid
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gee i remember the getaway looking better than GTA last gen too....but GTA was far better wasnt it?
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#81 ragrdoll21
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I loved the Getaway's myself, thought they were awesome games.Sketchbaz
Same here but GTAIV will be the better game...I think.
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#82 gander448
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E3 05 screens are automatically nullOemenia
lol, that pretty much ends this disscussion
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#83 Paul_TheGreat
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The Getaway will look better, but it wont be a better game than GTA4.
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#84 TekkenMaster606
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They have shown more of The Getaway since E3 2005. But, fanboys will be fanboys I guess.
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#85 deactivated-57af49c27f4e8
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yeah, gta4 looks like garbage in the gfx department.
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#86 dumfart66
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GTA has always been behind in graphics, look at san andreas it was moderate for its time.
GTA is good in the story and gameplay department, not graphics
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#87 Ngon
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one is multiplat and one is exclusive?

 

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#88 UndyingVayne
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maybe it never occured to you but GTA games never relied on high end graphics.. yet 9.6 GTA SA, these graphics are next gen enough for me, just because the getaway has slightly better graphics doesn't mean it's going to be any better than GTA4.
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#89 Radeon_X1950XTX
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getaway will go through a massive downgrade when they make the ps3 do decent ai, physics,gamecode, ect, this was just a tech demo,
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#90 treyskillz
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Getaway always looked better than GTA , but we don't know how big the 2 games are going to be or how much each one shows one screen, which would also affect graphics.
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#91 FrenziedRaldo24
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Why isnt GTAIV going to the Wii? With those pathetic graphics I bet even it could handle the game.
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#92 skixwolf
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Hmmm... GTA: 3 - 9.6 GTA: VC - 9.6 GTA: SA - 9.6 The Getaway:6.9, the second 6.4 Hmm... Hmmm, yup Getaway is gonna totally blow GTA out of the water!
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#93 Strakha
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I don't trust The Getaway developer with the last games they tried to pass off FMV screens off as in-game and got called out by gamesites for trying it. This gen it would be less obvious if they tried it again.

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#94 xyoojguy
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lolz?? The Getaway??? Is that the best the cow can do by hyping this flop to GTA?? Cows are getting desperate I see..
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#95 CalmityDaunt
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lolz?? The Getaway??? Is that the best the cow can do by hyping this flop to GTA?? Cows are getting desperate I see..xyoojguy
Desperate for what? GTA is multiplat until stated otherwise, you logic even for SW astounds me.
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#96 fuzzysquash
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maybe it never occured to you but GTA games never relied on high end graphics.. yet 9.6 GTA SA, these graphics are next gen enough for me, just because the getaway has slightly better graphics doesn't mean it's going to be any better than GTA4.UndyingVayne
why do people never read original posts before posting? *sigh*
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#97 -Pale
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Man, people REALLY missed the point of this thread. Especially the ones that ignore all the other media and pass off those shots because they're from E305.