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I'm beginning to think that SW is populated by videophiles that get off on watching gameplay instead of actual gameplay
graphics usually represent production values. When a game looks good 95% of the time the game plays good. Look at even wii titles. What are the best games on the wii? Super Mario galaxy, and super smash brothers brawl. What are the 2 best looking games on the wii? Super smash brothers brawl, and super mario galaxy. Every game that has great graphics usually has great gameplay, etc. It has always been like this because a talented programmer is usually going to be on the best development teams.
I know, but im saying is that you could play a game like uncharted in 720p and be ok with it....but your not going to enjoy a game like kung fu panda in 1080pwithout graphics there would be no gameplay since thered be nothing on the screen
washd123
[QUOTE="washd123"]I know, but im saying is that you could play a game like uncharted in 720p and be ok with it....but your not going to enjoy a game like kung fu panda in 1080pwithout graphics there would be no gameplay since thered be nothing on the screen
Yankees718
yet id enjoy uncharted that much more at 1080p with better graphics.
its one of the reasons i game on the pc. while its not a huge deal id rather spend the same amount and have a better visual experience it makes the game that much better.
graphics can go a long way towards immersion which is a huge part of making the gameplay seem good. the 'best' gameplay is pointless if the player isnt imerssed and feels detatched
So why do people say "wow ps3/360 has better graphics than ps3/360"?Yankees718Because graphics are still PART of the game, and they're easier to judge before the game is out than the gameplay part is.
Graphics are brought up because it is the ONLY thing that is comparable. Gameplay, sound and music, art style etc.. are all subjective but with graphics theres no debate just which one has better graphics. Graphics also show what a console is capable of if X console can produce Y game that has better graphics than Z console's W game then by definition X console is the stronger console.
Graphics are brought up because it is the ONLY thing that is comparable.
Gamerz1569
Yeah this is why.
Graphics really aren't that important to me.
Gameplay is subjective? So, I am being subjective when I say Panzer Dragoon on the Sega Saturn has far better gameplay than Lair? I'm sorry, but that isn't subjective. That's fact.Graphics are brought up because it is the ONLY thing that is comparable. Gameplay, sound and music, art style etc.. are all subjective but with graphics theres no debate just which one has better graphics. Graphics also show what a console is capable of if X console can produce Y game that has better graphics than Z console's W game then by definition X console is the stronger console.
Gamerz1569
L4D, HL2, among others, are proof that you don't need to have the best graphics to have a great game. Cows want you to think that graphics make the game, but that's not the way it works. You have to forgive cows though. This is the first gen where their console has the current edge in graphics, and they're so happy, they don't know how to act. How long this edge lasts is hard to say, but I believe the 360 will have it's turn again.MortalDecay
HL2 had some of the best graphics when it was released and L4D still does as well.
L4D, HL2, among others, are proof that you don't need to have the best graphics to have a great game.MortalDecayHL 2 is proof that it helps a lot.
Gameplay is subjective? So, I am being subjective when I say Panzer Dragoon on the Sega Saturn has far better gameplay than Lair? In fact let a young gamer who is exposed to good graphics play both he may very well find Lair more enjoyable because its newer and shinier, I'm sure you know that young gamers (not saying all but a majority) will not and cannot get into older games because they I'm sorry, but that isn't subjective. That's fact.MortalDecayWhat if I say I enjoyed Lair better than Panzer Dragoon?In fact let a young gamer who is exposed to good graphics play both he may very well find Lair more enjoyable because its newer and shinier, I'm sure you know that young gamers (not saying all but a majority) will not and cannot get into older games because they want prettier graphics or they find old games harder. Which is better is still arguable.As "better" depends on the perspective of the individual (given example above). Hence why I cannot say Killzone 2 is better than Halo or GT5 better than Forza 3. Taste and preference vary from each person (fanboyism aside) some might say Halo is better because it has a deeper SP or Killzone 2 is better because it has better graphics etc..
[QUOTE="MortalDecay"] Gameplay is subjective? So, I am being subjective when I say Panzer Dragoon on the Sega Saturn has far better gameplay than Lair? I'm sorry, but that isn't subjective. That's fact.Gamerz1569What if I say I enjoyed Lair better than Panzer Dragoon? Its still arguable which is better. As "better" depends on the perspective of the individual. Hence why I cannot say Killzone 2 is better than Halo or GT5 better than Forza 3. Taste and preference vary from each person (fanboyism aside) some might say Halo is better because it has a deeper SP or Killzone 2 is better because it has better graphics etc.. to a degree. there are certain standards for certain genres
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