Graphics cards getting expensive again

I'm still content with my 2080 Ti Asus ROG Strix 😊

I personally don't plan on upgrading my GPU until possibly next year but that all depends on whether I'm interested in the 42'' OLED from LG. If not I'll stick with my ultrawide.

Chances are, it will be. Consider this. Consider you're a game developer for PC and you are developing a game. Do you make it so visually stunning that only the very, very small portion of the population who could afford a scalped 3080 can enjoy it, or do you target a performance level that is much, much more common in the PC gaming world? The most common GPU in use today is the 1060. RX580s and 590s are pretty common too. That's what developers will be targeting until enough people have better. And if prices on "better" go up, then it's going to take long before enough people reach that point that game development will be focusing on it.

Also, you do not need 4K, ray tracing, DLSS, or even anti-aliasing to have the most enjoyable experience. So do not feel left out if you cannot run those largely irrelevant technologies on your hardware.

Right, and that's always sort of been my arguing point. You can take a cheap PC bought from Dell or Cosco or wherever and drop a 200-dollar card in it easily and *bam* awesome gaming rig.

Not so true any more. I am sure there are some OK options on the used/refurbished market out there if you're desperate.

That 980 is a sweet card man, I had mine for a good five or so years, and it was running just fine when I swapped it out for my 2080.

I gave it to a friend and I think he is still using it. If you're at 1080p still, it's a great card.

@fedor: It's probably the best way to go. Then all someone can do is upgrade the parts after.

As Im playing older PC games... GW2, FF14, and a bunch of stuff on Steam... the card has been rocking everything I throw at it even at 4K, which is surprising, given it wasnt marketed as a 4K card.

This is going haywire, good thing I decided to keep my money where it is probably until this hype goes down.

I literally finished building my system getting the 3070 on launch day before the craziness began. I had a feeling things were going to get bad and I was right. Could've ended up with a crap 1060 for $500 if I had waited.

Makes me want to just quit PC gaming.

I'm good with my PS5.

https://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/Gamer-Master-9500

$3071 for 5950X, RTX 3080, 32GB RAM (I swapped out the 3080 Ti for a 3080, changed the RAM to 32GB and switched SSD+mechanical combo to 1TB NVMe).

So, you could indeed save $500+. As for the case, that is your personal preference. The core components of your build are accounted for.

Either way, you can't complain about the price of pre-builts when you are choosing enthusiast parts which are usually overpriced under normal conditions and excessive for gaming anyway. A 5950X is way overkill and unnecessary for gaming purposes. However, I know you use this PC for work related stuff, so I am not questioning your choice.

I already showed you in my first post that you can get a good gaming PC for not much more than $2K. Pre-builts are definitely the way to go if you want to get shit close to MSRP right now.

I have a 2080ti and game on 1440p. I can keep that for the generation but I will upgrade when prices settle again.

@BassMan: You are trying to argue with me that pre-built machines are not expensive but showed me a $2000+ computer to prove your case? Seriously? Now you are telling me I can't complain about it being expensive despite the FACT that the prices of components exploded in recent years. Don't be silly. Take that nonsense somewhere else.

BassMan taking Pedro to school 😆

@SolidGame_basic: You still cosigning and embarrassing yourself like before. 🤭

I'm still rockin' a 980TI. I hope it can play Age of Empires 4 well lol.

I don't buy latest hardware on ebay, that is for idiots who want to get scalped. I buy from stores when it is original MSRP and use deals. Mine was cheap.

No thanks I personally rather game on PC.

I prefer playing PC's genres that are rarely on (or suck to play on) consoles, I enjoy competitive gaming (does any consoles even have 1/10th of PC's competitive scenes/games? The Cows here always try to sweep this one under the rug), larger communities, and vastly larger high score library last gen. I also prefer KB/M to controller by a mile. While PC can use the most controller, not all consoles can use KB/M effectively in every game. Especially not god-tier custom keyboards that use unique software. I prefer Ultrawide which doesn't work right on consoles. I like to alt-tab often to quickly do 10 other things time to time while I play video games.

If I need to spend more than all 3 of those I will. Heck forget just hardware, my PC gaming chair costs more than those 3 combined. My custom KB might exceed those costs too once I'm done with it.

Consoles? No Thanks. Maybe I'll visit my cousins house to watch the next PS5 movie game once every 2 years.

Sorry 60 fps is slow to me now.

I just want to know:

Who the hell still pays these prices? Who thinks 2-3 grand for a GPU is acceptable?

The 42" sure is interesting as a monitor. But only if you really, really want HDR... Because otherwise I'd rather stick with the ultrawide aspect ratio :)

I'm waiting for a 34-38"(the good ultrawide) miniled monitor at least have over 1,200 dimming zones for true HDR. Asus and Samsung released a 32" and 49"(too long) ones, but I'm not a fan of those aspect ratios.

Yeah they are overpriced, but I like high zone miniled over OLED. MUCH faster and no burn in. Best of both worlds. A little blooming though.

I mean they may be expensive ... but with Game Pass and Steam, you definitely would get more value.

Similarly, I have a 3070 and 1440p. I was shooting for a 3080 but I'm glad I snagged a 3070 for the original round 1 msrp. Personally, I don't think even 1440p is really needed and I'm viewing a 32" monitor. It's noticeable for sure, but no one should be upset about sticking with 1080p. You get more frames with less hardware and frames are king IMO.

Whoever suggested PC games weren't that much cheaper than console is mistaken. I just bought Doom Eternal for $15. I haven't seen it used for that price on consoles, not to mention the PC version is the better experience. Patience is hugely rewarded with PC, and I believe the person claiming it even compared the cost of a PC to a disc-less PS5 which in turn cuts out used games too. Just silly.

The build I showed you was for a high end gaming PC. You could get a capable gaming PC for a lot less that would serve the needs of the average PC gamer. Nobody is denying that the price of components has been ridiculous for a while now, but pre-builts still keep the overall pricing for a rig somewhat reasonable and make components available to people without having to go through scalpers. Also, nice deflection on the $500+ that you could have saved. Keep overpaying and complaining about those pre-built prices though. LOL

@zaryia: Yes, I will be going with miniled or microled for my next monitor :)

Burn in sounds way more comon for pc use anyway. With ui elements always being in the same spot.

FYI I just got an email from EVGA that the 3080 X3 Ultra that I signed up for last year at launch was finally available... at MSRP

I hope you already bought it before coming here to post.

No doubt... EVGA does a reserve system anyway and I believe I had 1st dibs on it without needing to sprint to checkout.

Yeah i think it's 24 hours to respond. I got mine a few weeks ago but I already have a 3080.

Non of that changes the fact that pre-built computers are expensive, that is what you are trying to argue against and failing at it. What you consider "reasonable" is $2000+.

Deflecting? You cannot find a system with the specs (that includes the form factor among other things) for a price that $500+ less than I paid for. What I have decided to purchase was not in reference to what the average person should purchase and nor does it change pre-built PCs being expensive. Also, you made the false assumption that I got my system for gaming despite non of my comments mentioning anything about gaming but just the cost of the systems.

Despite all of that random sidetracking and being incorrect on what the cost of the system for my specs are, pre-built systems still remains expensive. But, you are here trying to argue to the contrary with a $2000+ PC. 🙄

@Pedro: We are posting on a gaming site and I already mentioned in a previous post that your system was for more than just gaming. Also, the $2000+ system is a reasonable price for the components it features and the current market.

Just take another L.

You made a false assumption and claimed that $2000+ for a PC is not expensive. 😂 That gif really captures your state.

@Pedro:

@BassMan: Sorry, I don't do big ass computers. 😂

@BassMan: 🤣