Graphics = gameplay? {56K}

[QUOTE="zomgwtfbbqlol1"][QUOTE="ch-ch-chaoguy"][QUOTE="zomgwtfbbqlol1"][QUOTE="FamiBox"]

We all know sheep are in denial.

If Nintendo had released a console with better graphics than the 360/PS3, sheep would be constantly rubbing it in our faces and talking about how great graphics are and how important they are.

But because Wii's graphics can't compare... for that reason only, they live in denial.

It is true that graphics can add to gameplay a whole lot, and immerse you in another world (like oblivion) or in a more realistic setting (like COD4)

ch-ch-chaoguy

That is perhaps the dumbest thing I have ever seen on these boards... I'll name a game that makes your post fail.

You guessed it, Super Mario Galaxy...

btw u fail

Im guessing you'll be banned within the week...

Did I mention I also own an Xbox 360? And yes I still play Wii more...

Of course graphics matter.

But its the idiot fanboys that claim GOTY over some stupid screen shots of there stupid overhyped game, nobody wants to play pong but in dont want to see 356565 threads about "MGS4z is teh grapxiz KINGZ!!!!",

That being said every single game you listed will have fantastic gameplay...its just when fanboys claim ownage over some grainy bushes its get stupid..

Pinkyimp

This ^. All these Graphics kings thread needs to die! Yes the graphics look awesome nowadays, we don't need to hear it every single day that a new "King" has risen.

Lets freaking discuss about gameplay, immersion, control, sound, the developers, etc.

[QUOTE="zomgwtfbbqlol1"][QUOTE="Whiteblade999"]

[QUOTE="zomgwtfbbqlol1"][QUOTE="Whiteblade999"]I still play the doom engine games more than newer games. What do you think?Whiteblade999

I played the demo but wasn't overly impressed. I will get it when the price is lower but not worth it for $40. Graphics are the last thing I look at, they are ok but I play a game to play it and not look at it. If all I wanted was eyecandy I would go watch a movie.

It ran on high on my system just fine; I just wasn't overly impressed with the gameplay even though the nanosuit was a good touch. As far as the demo goes I use that as a major decision on buying a game; back in the day when we had shareware (lol I'm 17 and I sound old) you would get a good amount of the game and it was eaiser to make the decision of whether to buy it or not. Had the demo been longer I would have maybe changed my mind.

[QUOTE="Pinkyimp"]

Of course graphics matter.

But its the idiot fanboys that claim GOTY over some stupid screen shots of there stupid overhyped game, nobody wants to play pong but in dont want to see 356565 threads about "MGS4z is teh grapxiz KINGZ!!!!",

That being said every single game you listed will have fantastic gameplay...its just when fanboys claim ownage over some grainy bushes its get stupid..

Krigon

This ^. All these Graphics kings thread needs to die! Yes the graphics look awesome nowadays, we don't need to hear it every single day that a new "King" has risen.

Lets freaking discuss about gameplay, immersion, control, sound, the developers, etc.

graphics and the power of the system effect gameplay. E.I, dead rising wii. How much fun are you going to have killing like 3 zombies at once on screen, vs. when you can feel scared and overwhelmed as you stare at thousands of them in high def. and they dont dissapear as you get more than 5 feet away from them.

And its like love. You are more likely to fall in love with a pretty girl than an ugly one.

[QUOTE="Whiteblade999"][QUOTE="zomgwtfbbqlol1"][QUOTE="Whiteblade999"]

[QUOTE="zomgwtfbbqlol1"][QUOTE="Whiteblade999"]I still play the doom engine games more than newer games. What do you think?zomgwtfbbqlol1

I played the demo but wasn't overly impressed. I will get it when the price is lower but not worth it for $40. Graphics are the last thing I look at, they are ok but I play a game to play it and not look at it. If all I wanted was eyecandy I would go watch a movie.

It ran on high on my system just fine; I just wasn't overly impressed with the gameplay even though the nanosuit was a good touch. As far as the demo goes I use that as a major decision on buying a game; back in the day when we had shareware (lol I'm 17 and I sound old) you would get a good amount of the game and it was eaiser to make the decision of whether to buy it or not. Had the demo been longer I would have maybe changed my mind.

I am a hermit :P. I just happen to have very picky tastes and have gotten burned to many times with games that look good but are complete crap (oblivion and fear come to mind). As far as crysis goes, don't worry I will get it but I would most likely get Warhead first since that happens to be cheaper and is longer than the original.

I am a hermit :P. I just happen to have very picky tastes and have gotten burned to many times with games that look good but are complete crap (oblivion and fear come to mind). As far as crysis goes, don't worry I will get it but I would most likely get Warhead first since that happens to be cheaper and is longer than the original. Whiteblade999

[QUOTE="Whiteblade999"]I am a hermit :P. I just happen to have very picky tastes and have gotten burned to many times with games that look good but are complete crap (oblivion and fear come to mind). As far as crysis goes, don't worry I will get it but I would most likely get Warhead first since that happens to be cheaper and is longer than the original. zomgwtfbbqlol1

I played Doom 2 before the original and Diablo 2 before the original. Usually the expansion or sequel is a refined experience so it would be the better buy.

graphics and the power of the system effect gameplay. E.I, dead rising wii. How much fun are you going to have killing like 3 zombies at once on screen, vs. when you can feel scared and overwhelmed as you stare at thousands of them in high def. and they dont dissapear as you get more than 5 feet away from them.

And its like love. You are more likely to fall in love with a pretty girl than an ugly one.

VendettaRed07

Yeah but once that girl leaves you for a richer man and leaves ou with nothing...

[QUOTE="zomgwtfbbqlol1"][QUOTE="Whiteblade999"]I am a hermit :P. I just happen to have very picky tastes and have gotten burned to many times with games that look good but are complete crap (oblivion and fear come to mind). As far as crysis goes, don't worry I will get it but I would most likely get Warhead first since that happens to be cheaper and is longer than the original. Whiteblade999

I played Doom 2 before the original and Diablo 2 before the original. Usually the expansion or sequel is a refined experience so it would be the better buy.

those all look awesome but i seriously don't think wardevil will look like those old screens from the trailer, because that game looks the best outta all of those! I don't know... the game, when we see in 2009 when its offical announced will have good graphics for 2009 but it won't be anything like that screen, like killzone 2 and its cg screens, the real thing is nothing like those screens. I'm intrested in killzone 2 finally tho with the MP previews.LibertySaint

[QUOTE="LibertySaint"]those all look awesome but i seriously don't think wardevil will look like those old screens from the trailer, because that game looks the best outta all of those! I don't know... the game, when we see in 2009 when its offical announced will have good graphics for 2009 but it won't be anything like that screen, like killzone 2 and its cg screens, the real thing is nothing like those screens. I'm intrested in killzone 2 finally tho with the MP previews.zomgwtfbbqlol1

[QUOTE="zomgwtfbbqlol1"][QUOTE="LibertySaint"]those all look awesome but i seriously don't think wardevil will look like those old screens from the trailer, because that game looks the best outta all of those! I don't know... the game, when we see in 2009 when its offical announced will have good graphics for 2009 but it won't be anything like that screen, like killzone 2 and its cg screens, the real thing is nothing like those screens. I'm intrested in killzone 2 finally tho with the MP previews.LibertySaint

[QUOTE="LibertySaint"][QUOTE="zomgwtfbbqlol1"][QUOTE="LibertySaint"]those all look awesome but i seriously don't think wardevil will look like those old screens from the trailer, because that game looks the best outta all of those! I don't know... the game, when we see in 2009 when its offical announced will have good graphics for 2009 but it won't be anything like that screen, like killzone 2 and its cg screens, the real thing is nothing like those screens. I'm intrested in killzone 2 finally tho with the MP previews.zomgwtfbbqlol1

[QUOTE="zomgwtfbbqlol1"][QUOTE="LibertySaint"][QUOTE="zomgwtfbbqlol1"][QUOTE="LibertySaint"]those all look awesome but i seriously don't think wardevil will look like those old screens from the trailer, because that game looks the best outta all of those! I don't know... the game, when we see in 2009 when its offical announced will have good graphics for 2009 but it won't be anything like that screen, like killzone 2 and its cg screens, the real thing is nothing like those screens. I'm intrested in killzone 2 finally tho with the MP previews.LibertySaint

its not better than crysis... and it is all ingame

http://www.wardevil.com/Teaser_01_08.htm

u can see the video in HD if u DL it from the wardevil website

[QUOTE="VendettaRed07"]

graphics and the power of the system effect gameplay. E.I, dead rising wii. How much fun are you going to have killing like 3 zombies at once on screen, vs. when you can feel scared and overwhelmed as you stare at thousands of them in high def. and they dont dissapear as you get more than 5 feet away from them.

And its like love. You are more likely to fall in love with a pretty girl than an ugly one.

ch-ch-chaoguy

Yeah but once that girl leaves you for a richer man and leaves ou with nothing...

but see thats the thing about love, you need both things! gameplay does stand the test of time, but the graphics, and beauty are what draw you into it/her in the first place, so you can appriciate its gameplay more, you are more attracted to her/the game. And when it gets old and isnt as pretty anymore, you still have the gameplay/ her personallity and the initial attraction you had to it/her int the first place, graphics=beauty or how attracted you are to the game or girl, and gameplay=personallity which has to fit your needs as a gamer/person also. To have a successful relationship with a girl or a game, you need the visual attraction and the mental connection

Which game is the 10th pic?killab2oo5

[QUOTE="killab2oo5"]Which game is the 10th pic?zomgwtfbbqlol1

well usally when a game has good grapics it means the game is well devolped Gears,MGS4,COD4.but it can also be bad.......LairZeppy007

EDIT: then again lair never looked "that" good

yes gameplay is important but so are graphics, and the fact crysis has some of the best gameplay of any fps andis just as basicly as fun on low as on high proves you wrong that you can't have both. imprezawrx500

i know i did say graphics, but i ment things that shape the graphics also

The big difference is in a games lasting appeal. A game can have absolutly stunning graphics, even photo-realistic, but if the gameplay isn't there than it's probably going to only be played once through---if that. However, if a game has a solid combination of graphics and gameplay, than that is where you get games like Golden Eye or Zelda that are considered timeless. So I guess it depends on what you are looking for. Graphics will get you a one night stand, gameplay will get you something that is worth keeping.

graphics don't mean anything. A game with amazing graphics today will look meaningless in a month to people.

Yesterday it was MGS has the greatest graphics

now its killzone or something

it's just going to change continuously

gameplay is something that sets games apart and have to be perfected. if gameplay sucks why buy the game. if you bought the game for it's looks, you should have just saved those $50-60 and stared at jessica alba on google images

There is more to graphics than cosmetics. Art direction is fine, but it's only one aspect that makes a great game.

We've seen this when games went 3-D. Because of this graphical enhancement, there was a whole now axis to play on.

Then we have examples like Splinter Cell where the dynamic lighting was a core part in the game's stealth mechanics.

So yes, graphics certainly can be very integral to gameplay.

graphics don't mean anything. A game with amazing graphics today will look meaningless in a month to people.

Yesterday it was MGS has the greatest graphics

now its killzone or something

it's just going to change continuously

gameplay is something that sets games apart and have to be perfected. if gameplay sucks why buy the game. if you bought the game for it's looks, you should have just saved those $50-60 and stared at jessica alba on google images

spectravoid

Didn't Lair have great graphics? :?SSCyborg

Yes one flop represents all graphically impressive games.... :roll: nice logic.

[QUOTE="SSCyborg"]Didn't Lair have great graphics? :?RotaryRX7

Yes one flop represents all graphically impressive games.... :roll: nice logic.

...he didn't say that.

Wow..some people need to calm down when it comes to video games.

[QUOTE="SSCyborg"]Didn't Lair have great graphics? :?RotaryRX7

Yes one flop represents all graphically impressive games.... :roll: nice logic.

Replying to a post 70+ posts later. :roll: Even better logic.

If graphics didn't matter all ps3/360/pc users would be buying the Wii or why not go all the way back to the Atari-era .Krigon

[QUOTE="Krigon"]If graphics didn't matter all ps3/360/pc users would be buying the Wii or why not go all the way back to the Atari-era .footfoe2

Did you actually play the game, because the story is certainly not immature. Crazy and over-the-top, yes, but not immature.

graphics are very important no matter what the wii fans say.Gen007

Because most good games have good graphics, people often think good graphics = good game. That may be a decent rule of thumb to follow, but its not the actual cause.

Most good games pay attention to detail and try to execute well on all ends. Thats why the graphics are usually good. However what actually makes the game good, good as in "i'll still be playing this in a few months/years", is the gameplay. A crappy game with great graphics is a crappy game. A great game with crappy graphics is still a great game. Its likely thats its just old. Of course a great game with great graphics trumps everything.

For me graphics is a must.

Not in all genres ( i mean puzzle games or even fighting genres dont need extraordinary graphics to be awesome, not even platforms) but in most,

Ill talk with examples ( GAMES ) . Gameplay (game wise) will be the same at DEAD RISING for both Wii and x360 versions. In the end would be the same? Will you feel like youre in a desperate situation , and need to survive no matter what same on Wii as of X360? The gore of the game and the more "real" zombies wont add to the excitement of this title way mroe for x360 than Wii?..

I can go on with 213123 more examples of what graphics can add more in the end. So in the end , gameplay is without doubts the winner vs graphics , but not that graphics are not neccessary for an overall better gaming experience. You want or not , its a fact. Gave you the simpliest example of the same game with the same gameplay/mechanics.

TF2 proves that a game doesnt need to be technically impressive to be enjoyable as hell.........this gen is full of graphics addicts.......i would use another term...but im afraid i might get moddedDante2710

My question again.

A game with the very same gameplay and mechanics AKA DEAD RISING , will be the same overall gaming experience on Wii as the X360? So , except gameplay , graphics matter. And a lot. OFC gameplay >> graphics. But dont say graphics dont matter.. I gave you a simple example why.

"graphics" are important. Gameplay can be affected by a lack of power, some games need many enemies on screen or things happening at once to compliment the style. If you find yourself in a survival horror that looks like it wa drawn on MS Pant you might not feel even slightly scared. Graphics can assist a creation of a virtual atmosphere, and that never ever gets old when it is done right.hongkingkong

agree

Both matter, but I wouldn't mind if a game is ugly as long as the gameplay is good.EuroMafia

Right but what gamers do is forget and reverse what you just said...instead of having a game look ugly and gameplay is good..they look at the graphics too much and get crappy gameplay, Graphics are NO substitute for gameplay period...that's the problem with Fanboys/noob gamers in today's market..

[QUOTE="EuroMafia"]Both matter, but I wouldn't mind if a game is ugly as long as the gameplay is good.Pinkyimp

Right but what gamers do is forget and reverse what you just said...instead of having a game look ugly and gameplay is good..they look at the graphics too much and get crappy gameplay, Graphics are NO substitute for gameplay period...that's the problem with Fanboys/noob gamers in today's market..

True also.

But considering the shovelware total sales on Wii , that actually IS NOT an "elite" graphically console... Then i think Fanboys/noobs aka casuals or whatever ...dont mind about graphics that much as you said IMO ofc.