Greenberg: 360 still outsells PS3 "4.8 mill to 4.3 mill" in 2009

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#51 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="FIipMode"]

I find this post hilarious because the PS3 has got to be the console that people said would die the most, yet its still here.

FIipMode

Wii. The fad was suppose to die before it launched. The 360 was too. When the PS3 was a sales failure, that's when that non sense died. Its most definitely still the Wii though.

Sorry its gotta go to PS3, because not only did 360 fanboys talk about the PS3 and blu-ray dying, but there were tons of articles about the PS3 being doomed and Sony leaving the console business etc. yet its still here.

Uh, those articles still exist with the Wii. People still think the bubble is going to burst. Its been 3 years. Naw, its definitely the Wii. And what articles are you talking about? The ones that didn't exist?

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#52 XanderZane
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hmmmm, of course I do believe this is NA. I'm not sure. Otherwise the PS3 outsold ww, but not sure yet

Squall18
That's U.S. only. For Microsoft, they care more about the U.S. market, then any other region. The PS3 probably outsold the 360 worldwide especially with the push of systems in Japan when FF XIII got released. Now we just have to wait and see if Natal does for the 360 what the PS3 Slim did for the PS3. This trend has been a yo-yo this generation.
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#53 deactivated-5d6e91f5c147a
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Not that either sales are bad...
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#54 SaltyMeatballs
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[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="killab2oo5"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"] I guess the PS3 survived it's original 2007 death bed... lol.

So many nails in the coffin.

It's quite sad if you think about it... if all the fanboys had their way... gaming in it's entirety would be dead right now.

That doesn't really make sense because all fanboys want their system to continue and would cancel eachother out.
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#55 n00bkid
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Becomes a different story altogether once you add Japan numbers:

  • 01 Nintendo DS - 4,025,313
  • 02 Sony PSP - 2,307,971
  • 03 Nintendo Wii - 1,975,178
  • 04 Sony PlayStation 3 - 1,727,041
  • 05 Microsoft Xbox 360 - 331,706
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#56 SPYDER0416
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I dont like Greenberg. He ranks up there in the annoying faces of the industry... along side Cliffy B, David Jaffe, and Itaki. There are more... but these four are the most prominent, IMO.carljohnson3456

Cliffy B and Jaffe are pretty neat dudes.

Anyways, I think this might just be NA, or be mainly early 09 sales if anything. From what I hear the slim really turned things around.

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#57 Longcat2
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And the lems will think he is right by ignoring the whole north America only thing lol. Gaming is not just on this one continent. It was the same in nov. When sys wars lems had a field day when they outsold ps3 by 110k in US ( but they neglected the rest of the world) and in reality ps3 out sells worldwide. Not that I care about sales I just care about the TRUTH.Midnightshade29
Obviously you do care about sales. We all care about sales, even if its in it most basic form of care. It's funny, you talk about looking at the bigger picture to show that Sony is winning WW for 2009, but you ignore the even bigger picture that Wii is dominating in 1st place. Tell me, why do you care so much about second place? Wii is first, just let this petty rivalry between 360 and PS3 sales go. Return to arguing about which system has the better games/online etc because placing so much weight on second place is ridiculous.
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#58 -Sir-Poof-
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[QUOTE="FIipMode"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Wii. The fad was suppose to die before it launched. The 360 was too. When the PS3 was a sales failure, that's when that non sense died. Its most definitely still the Wii though.

ActicEdge

Sorry its gotta go to PS3, because not only did 360 fanboys talk about the PS3 and blu-ray dying, but there were tons of articles about the PS3 being doomed and Sony leaving the console business etc. yet its still here.

Uh, those articles still exist with the Wii. People still think the bubble is going to burst. Its been 3 years. Naw, its definitely the Wii. And what articles are you talking about? The ones that didn't exist?

There were and currently are articles about Nintendo needing to leave the Console business, and being doomed?? Who wrote them, SDF? :lol: The only article I remember of Sony being doomed featured Gabe Newell talking about Sony needing to stop PS3 production and do a "do over".

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#59 TheGrat1
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I can't believe no one as said this yet: "LOL NPD!"

I personally think of the Xbox 360 and PS3 as dogs fighting on who can garner the most food scraps they find while the Wii has most of the food to itself. Regardless of who gets the most scraps, they both lose as the console that finishes first is the winner of the console war.

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And yet, those two dogs are like Lasse compared to the Taco Bell chihuahua.
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#60 Phaze-Two
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quoting only NA numbers= desperation.

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#61 Hihatrider87
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what is the one justification for regular video game consumers caring about sales? getting games that you want on the systems you have. since I live in NA, i am primarily concerned with NA sales.

that's the reason why people in NA most often use the npds, not look to worldwide sales.

if you were truly just interested in the success of a particular system, why not just use shipping numbers? always accurate and it's not like they won't get sold eventually.

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#62 djsifer01
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Considering the PS3 was 200 dollars more than the 360 for 80% of the year, thats nothing to brag about or even bring up for that matter.
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#63 Modern_Unit
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Becomes a different story altogether once you add Japan numbers:

  • 01 Nintendo DS - 4,025,313
  • 02 Sony PSP - 2,307,971
  • 03 Nintendo Wii - 1,975,178
  • 04 Sony PlayStation 3 - 1,727,041
  • 05 Microsoft Xbox 360 - 331,706

Ninten007

4 mill - 1.7 mill= 2.3 mill lead. I fail to see how ps3 still over takes

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#65 mlbslugger86
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yeah well i still think the playstation 3 is catching up, especially knowing how much got sold this christmas

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#66 ShadowriverUB
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By vgcharts

PS3: 4,745,949

360: 5,557,099

since fo some reason NPD always have smaller numbers (probably becouse NPD counts only US not whole NA as probably VG does) this is somehow correct, propostions are very close

Worldwide sales of year don't look nice for 360 as this...

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#67 Jfisch93
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By vgcharts

PS3: 4,745,949

360: 5,557,099

since fo some reason NPD always have smaller numbers (probably becouse NPD counts only US not whole NA as probably VG does) this is somehow correct, propostions are very close

Worldwide sales of year don't look nice for 360 as this...

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#68 Captain_SOAP_
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[QUOTE="sikanderahmed"]

wasnt 360 suppose to be dead by now?

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It is in line behind the PC,the Wii fad and WoW. It has to wait its turn.

lmao
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#69 Phaze-Two
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[QUOTE="Ninten007"]

Becomes a different story altogether once you add Japan numbers:

  • 01 Nintendo DS - 4,025,313
  • 02 Sony PSP - 2,307,971
  • 03 Nintendo Wii - 1,975,178
  • 04 Sony PlayStation 3 - 1,727,041
  • 05 Microsoft Xbox 360 - 331,706

Modern_Unit

4 mill - 1.7 mill= 2.3 mill lead. I fail to see how ps3 still over takes

huh?

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#70 jonesy1911
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[QUOTE="Ninten007"]

Becomes a different story altogether once you add Japan numbers:

  • 01 Nintendo DS - 4,025,313
  • 02 Sony PSP - 2,307,971
  • 03 Nintendo Wii - 1,975,178
  • 04 Sony PlayStation 3 - 1,727,041
  • 05 Microsoft Xbox 360 - 331,706

Modern_Unit

4 mill - 1.7 mill= 2.3 mill lead. I fail to see how ps3 still over takes

what? 360 NA = 4.8m JPN = 331,706 overall of the two = 5,131,706 PS3 NA = 4.3m JPN = 1,727,041 overall = 6,027,041 surely you can see without even looking at the rest of the worlds numbers PS3 is gaining on the 360 fast.
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#71 monson21502
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Someone should remind him that NPD figures are US only.

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people need to be reminded that they live in the usa
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#72 Shattered007
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[QUOTE="ShadowriverUB"]

By vgcharts

PS3: 4,745,949

360: 5,557,099

since fo some reason NPD always have smaller numbers (probably becouse NPD counts only US not whole NA as probably VG does) this is somehow correct, propostions are very close

Worldwide sales of year don't look nice for 360 as this...

It's because NPDs doesn't get numbers from Wal-Mark, Sam's Club and Amazon. The guess.
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#73 jakarai
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In USA only. Worldwide PS3 > 360.
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#74 SolidTy
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hmmmm, of course I do believe this is NA. I'm not sure. Otherwise the PS3 outsold ww, but not sure yet

Squall18

I'm not really into sales, but I just thought you would like to know, since it was uncertain in the Title of the Thread, and OP.

Greenberg : "US NPD console HW for 2009shows Xbox 360 at 4.8M vs 4.3M for PS3.""

Greenburg's a smart guy, he knows a large percentage of people that read his quote will misread his quote. It's a brilliant tactic...had I not seen him already do it before. United States NPD numbers is nice, but the General idea of the Headline of the thread and the people that quote Xbox Employee Greenburg will leave with this simple idea :

Xbox's Greenburg : 360 outsells PS3 for 2009!

It's a good headline even if it's only numbers from United States NPD...and he's doing his job he is paid to do well. ;) Xbox's Greenburg is an intelligent employee, earning his money, spinning his company news, and I applaud his efforts.

I'm not really into sales, honestly, especially since at this point, all three consoles are in the safe zone by large margins of 30+ millions of users (especially the 50+ Million Wii! :P )

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#75 Vadamee
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What are the total lifetime to date standings?
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#76 wooooode
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WW the PS3 has been dominating the 360 for a while. The US has been the 360's throne, but seems to be losing ground.
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#77 killerfist
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Meh @ using US numbers only. Why talk if you're only telling half of the story?
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#78 shinrabanshou
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What are the total lifetime to date standings?Vadamee
In the US? Or in total?

In millions.

US NPD LTD numbers:
Xbox 360: 18.6
PS3: 11.1

For reference.

JPN Media Create LTD numbers:
Xbox 360: 1.2
PS3: 4.5

While there's no European tracker, I recall both stating a 10 million userbase.