GS Biggest Flop of the year 2013 ?

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#201 gensigns
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@robokill: You're missing something.

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#202  Edited By robokill
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@gensigns said:

@robokill: You're missing something.

such as? 67 different reviews come to a 95% average, including gamespots 8. Does that one 8 somehow mean that the other 66 are irrelevant? Is gamespot the overlord of game reviews? One of the highest selling games on the console, the second highest rated exclusive and it's a flop.... am I taking crazy pills here

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#203  Edited By lostrib
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@robokill: because its asking about GameSpot flop, which tlou was

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#204 robokill
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so based on one persons review? Kind of a convenient way to pick and choose one's battles. Gamespots reviews are unprofessional at best

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#205 lostrib
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@robokill: the thread is specifically asking about GameSpot.

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#206  Edited By kingtito
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@cainetao11 said:

@kingtito said:

How could anyone say Ryse? It didn't have any real hype threads or prediction for score. TLOU on the other hand was labeled as the 2nd coming GOTG, ect....

For GS scores TLOU is the biggest flop and a close 2nd would be KZ:SF

ryse did have a hype thread. official was AA I believe. Funny thread too because many were voting, then posting they didn't believe it get above a 6. But the meta game is only fun if you risk something. TLOU was seriously hyped and it flopped. Metacritic, other reviews don't matter.

Please link the Ryse hype thread. I don't recall seeing one but you're not going to tell me it was more hyped than KZ:SF and TLOU are you? Both of those games were touted as "GOTG" "the next Half-life" I don't recall anything even close to that hype for Ryse.

My choices still stand and KZ:SF and TLOU.

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#207 Ripsaw1994
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TLOU or Ryse definitely

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#210 playstation2004
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Ryse for sure.

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#211  Edited By deactivated-5acfa3a8bc51d
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Ryse got a 4.0 review that is a flop for a launch game at least Knack looked bad from the beginning. GTA: V was a letdown to me I call it the flop of the year

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#212  Edited By the_bi99man
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@kingtito said:

@cainetao11 said:

@kingtito said:

How could anyone say Ryse? It didn't have any real hype threads or prediction for score. TLOU on the other hand was labeled as the 2nd coming GOTG, ect....

For GS scores TLOU is the biggest flop and a close 2nd would be KZ:SF

ryse did have a hype thread. official was AA I believe. Funny thread too because many were voting, then posting they didn't believe it get above a 6. But the meta game is only fun if you risk something. TLOU was seriously hyped and it flopped. Metacritic, other reviews don't matter.

Please link the Ryse hype thread. I don't recall seeing one but you're not going to tell me it was more hyped than KZ:SF and TLOU are you? Both of those games were touted as "GOTG" "the next Half-life" I don't recall anything even close to that hype for Ryse.

My choices still stand and KZ:SF and TLOU.

This. I think people are misunderstanding this whole system. Yeah, Ryse got a terrible score. Far worse than KZ or TLOU. But, it's not as big of a flop because it wasn't all that hyped. There were a small handful of people who bought into the trailers, but for the most part everybody knew it going to be another of Crytek's glorified tech demos. Nobody honestly expected AAA. Most expected A, at best, and even that might be a stretch. The gameplay looked awful for a quite a long time before the systems even launched.

TLOU and KZ, on the other hand, were hyped like the second coming of Christ (albeit mostly because Sony fanboys have a tendency to do that with just about anything exclusive). So yeah, according to the silly rules of the SW metagame, TLOU and KZ getting 8 & 7 were bigger flops than Ryse getting 4. That doesn't mean they're worse games than Ryse, as they obviously are not. It just means they had much more hype which they failed to meet.

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#213 speedfog
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Any Sony exclusive.

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#214  Edited By kingtito
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@the_bi99man said:

@kingtito said:

@cainetao11 said:

@kingtito said:

How could anyone say Ryse? It didn't have any real hype threads or prediction for score. TLOU on the other hand was labeled as the 2nd coming GOTG, ect....

For GS scores TLOU is the biggest flop and a close 2nd would be KZ:SF

ryse did have a hype thread. official was AA I believe. Funny thread too because many were voting, then posting they didn't believe it get above a 6. But the meta game is only fun if you risk something. TLOU was seriously hyped and it flopped. Metacritic, other reviews don't matter.

Please link the Ryse hype thread. I don't recall seeing one but you're not going to tell me it was more hyped than KZ:SF and TLOU are you? Both of those games were touted as "GOTG" "the next Half-life" I don't recall anything even close to that hype for Ryse.

My choices still stand and KZ:SF and TLOU.

This. I think people are misunderstanding this whole system. Yeah, Ryse got a terrible score. Far worse than KZ or TLOU. But, it's not as big of a flop because it wasn't all that hyped. There were a small handful of people who bought into the trailers, but for the most part everybody knew it going to be another of Crytek's glorified tech demos. Nobody honestly expected AAA. Most expected A, at best, and even that might be a stretch. The gameplay looked awful for a quite a long time before the systems even launched.

TLOU and KZ, on the other hand, were hyped like the second coming of Christ (albeit mostly because Sony fanboys have a tendency to do that with just about anything exclusive). So yeah, according to the silly rules of the SW metagame, TLOU and KZ getting 8 & 7 were bigger flops than Ryse getting 4. That doesn't mean they're worse games than Ryse, as they obviously are not. It just means they had much more hype which they failed to meet.

Well said. I haven't played KZ yet but I have played Ryse and TLOU, TLOU is by far the better game. Doesn't mean I think Ryse is terrible though. I enjoyed it very much and thought the 4 it got was a bit underrated.

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#215 LegatoSkyheart
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WiiU.

This was the console's first year and it flopped amazingly.

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@the_bi99man said:

@kingtito said:

@cainetao11 said:

@kingtito said:

How could anyone say Ryse? It didn't have any real hype threads or prediction for score. TLOU on the other hand was labeled as the 2nd coming GOTG, ect....

For GS scores TLOU is the biggest flop and a close 2nd would be KZ:SF

ryse did have a hype thread. official was AA I believe. Funny thread too because many were voting, then posting they didn't believe it get above a 6. But the meta game is only fun if you risk something. TLOU was seriously hyped and it flopped. Metacritic, other reviews don't matter.

Please link the Ryse hype thread. I don't recall seeing one but you're not going to tell me it was more hyped than KZ:SF and TLOU are you? Both of those games were touted as "GOTG" "the next Half-life" I don't recall anything even close to that hype for Ryse.

My choices still stand and KZ:SF and TLOU.

This. I think people are misunderstanding this whole system. Yeah, Ryse got a terrible score. Far worse than KZ or TLOU. But, it's not as big of a flop because it wasn't all that hyped. There were a small handful of people who bought into the trailers, but for the most part everybody knew it going to be another of Crytek's glorified tech demos. Nobody honestly expected AAA. Most expected A, at best, and even that might be a stretch. The gameplay looked awful for a quite a long time before the systems even launched.

TLOU and KZ, on the other hand, were hyped like the second coming of Christ (albeit mostly because Sony fanboys have a tendency to do that with just about anything exclusive). So yeah, according to the silly rules of the SW metagame, TLOU and KZ getting 8 & 7 were bigger flops than Ryse getting 4. That doesn't mean they're worse games than Ryse, as they obviously are not. It just means they had much more hype which they failed to meet.

For Ryse and knack it was more like eh this will probably get a 7 or 8, whatever, blah blah blah graphics. TLOU was like holy shit! GOTG, GOAT! and then everyone lost their shit when it got an 8 which is a great game.

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Pikmin 3

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@kingtito said:

@cainetao11 said:

@kingtito said:

How could anyone say Ryse? It didn't have any real hype threads or prediction for score. TLOU on the other hand was labeled as the 2nd coming GOTG, ect....

For GS scores TLOU is the biggest flop and a close 2nd would be KZ:SF

ryse did have a hype thread. official was AA I believe. Funny thread too because many were voting, then posting they didn't believe it get above a 6. But the meta game is only fun if you risk something. TLOU was seriously hyped and it flopped. Metacritic, other reviews don't matter.

Please link the Ryse hype thread. I don't recall seeing one but you're not going to tell me it was more hyped than KZ:SF and TLOU are you? Both of those games were touted as "GOTG" "the next Half-life" I don't recall anything even close to that hype for Ryse.

My choices still stand and KZ:SF and TLOU.

Ok, I had some time to dig.

Hype thread 1 = AAA 27%

Hype thread 2 = AAA 23%

Hype thread 3 = AAA 30%

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#219 kingtito
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@asylumni said:

@kingtito said:

@cainetao11 said:

@kingtito said:

How could anyone say Ryse? It didn't have any real hype threads or prediction for score. TLOU on the other hand was labeled as the 2nd coming GOTG, ect....

For GS scores TLOU is the biggest flop and a close 2nd would be KZ:SF

ryse did have a hype thread. official was AA I believe. Funny thread too because many were voting, then posting they didn't believe it get above a 6. But the meta game is only fun if you risk something. TLOU was seriously hyped and it flopped. Metacritic, other reviews don't matter.

Please link the Ryse hype thread. I don't recall seeing one but you're not going to tell me it was more hyped than KZ:SF and TLOU are you? Both of those games were touted as "GOTG" "the next Half-life" I don't recall anything even close to that hype for Ryse.

My choices still stand and KZ:SF and TLOU.

Ok, I had some time to dig.

Hype thread 1 = AAA 27%

Hype thread 2 = AAA 23%

Hype thread 3 = AAA 30%

Yep but those were mostly fanboys over hyping just to see it flop. I bet a lot were cows but you won't find 1 person that thought Ryse would be bigger than TLOU. In no way shape or form was Ryse given "GOTG, GOTY" type hype. It wasn't even close. You had most cows claiming KZ:SF would be better than Half-life or calling it the next Half-Life. The amount of damage control after both reviews tells the tale. No one even cared that Ryse got a 4 but not so for either of the other games.

All you have to do is see all the threads created by cows bitching about the scores.

My choices still stand as KZ:SF and TLOU. Not sure why you're trying to change my mind. It's just my opinion.

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#220 musicalmac  Moderator
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Probably TLOU. Had people understood how to hype things, though, GT6 would have been a safe bet. 7. Woof.

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#221 drummerdave9099
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@TheEroica said:

Cows will say ryse, everyone with even half a brain or more obviously see that Tlou was indeed the greatest flop of the year... Maybe the gen... Great game, highly enjoyed it, but no game this gen was hyped higher and scored lower. At least not that I can think of.

skyward sword is the only other one that comes to mind for this past gen

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#222 asylumni
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@kingtito said:

@asylumni said:

@kingtito said:

@cainetao11 said:

@kingtito said:

How could anyone say Ryse? It didn't have any real hype threads or prediction for score. TLOU on the other hand was labeled as the 2nd coming GOTG, ect....

For GS scores TLOU is the biggest flop and a close 2nd would be KZ:SF

ryse did have a hype thread. official was AA I believe. Funny thread too because many were voting, then posting they didn't believe it get above a 6. But the meta game is only fun if you risk something. TLOU was seriously hyped and it flopped. Metacritic, other reviews don't matter.

Please link the Ryse hype thread. I don't recall seeing one but you're not going to tell me it was more hyped than KZ:SF and TLOU are you? Both of those games were touted as "GOTG" "the next Half-life" I don't recall anything even close to that hype for Ryse.

My choices still stand and KZ:SF and TLOU.

Ok, I had some time to dig.

Hype thread 1 = AAA 27%

Hype thread 2 = AAA 23%

Hype thread 3 = AAA 30%

Yep but those were mostly fanboys over hyping just to see it flop. I bet a lot were cows but you won't find 1 person that thought Ryse would be bigger than TLOU. In no way shape or form was Ryse given "GOTG, GOTY" type hype. It wasn't even close. You had most cows claiming KZ:SF would be better than Half-life or calling it the next Half-Life. The amount of damage control after both reviews tells the tale. No one even cared that Ryse got a 4 but not so for either of the other games.

All you have to do is see all the threads created by cows bitching about the scores.

My choices still stand as KZ:SF and TLOU. Not sure why you're trying to change my mind. It's just my opinion.

I wasn't trying to change anything, really. It's just you asked for a link to the hype thread, as have others, and I had some time to kill so I linked the ones I found for you.

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#223  Edited By deactivated-583e460ca986b
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Going by System Wars rules and the over hyping Cows TLOU and Kill zone Shadow fall were the biggest flops of the year. Personally TLOU was a great game. But Killzones campaign is a chore at best. And the game isn't even that pretty the majority of the time. Maybe one day Cows will learn to lay off the hype. But SDC, Thank you Sony and all that jazz.

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#224 cainetao11
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@asylumni: Thanks for that. I wasn't going digging for it. I knew the truth, had nothing to prove. He seems to think because I stated Ryse did have a hype thread, I was one that believed Ryse was the biggest flop. I go with TLOU, as the Ryse Hype thread actually had a lot of unrealistic voting because cows got called out as cowards when the hyped KZSF AA after spamming this board for months with Pics. So quite a few on the lem side said AAA for Ryse, but it was all in fun. Not many really believed that game was going anywhere near a 9/10

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#225  Edited By kingtito
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@asylumni: Ok thanks. I didn't remember what the actual hype was for Ryse.