GT Sport "crosses" 5 million players.

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#101  Edited By cainetao11
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@vfighter said:

@cainetao11: I like Forza (at least the main games since 3) so you're barking up the wrong tree here bub. Keep the goalposts moving though, its amusing.

I don't care brah. I'm drunk and laughing. Its not serious.

@recloud said:

@cainetao11: you being an investor has no relevance at all in SW, nor does the value of Sony and M$ as companies.

The truth still stands: GT sells more than Forza despite Forza being on a larger (PC+x1) userbase than GT.

It does to me as long as you losers bring up sales which is MONEY. Well if we're talking MONEY then MSFT has ALWAYS SHIT ON THAT JAPANESE TRAIN WRECK of a corporation.

Whether you think it is relevant or not means shit to me. You aren't a Mod and your opinion is crap to me. Go have a cry.

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#102 Ant_17
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@cainetao11 said:
@Ant_17 said:

The thread is about player count, not sales or scores.

You lems brought up scores.

Because you never just admit you lose by your paraded shit. Be a man, dude. Forza shits on GT in the video game critical space. Stop mangina'ing out.

As i said:

Critics love Forza.

Gamers want GT.

And Forza is stealing mechanics from GTS cause their game is crap, so who shits on who again?

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#103  Edited By QuadKnight
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@Ant_17 said:
@cainetao11 said:
@vfighter said:

@cainetao11: Oh now we're moving the goalposts to stocks bwahahahahaha. Dear god this is getting embarrassing.

Oh now we're moving the goalposts to sales instead of critical scores? Did you really make it that easy for us?

Even chutebox is calling cows out on this hypocrisy.

I'm a lem and fully admit, the PS has more highly rated games ( by other human beings that do not buy me games). And NOW, for some reason in the one area that Xbox has consistently kicked PS ass by the metrics of critical scores that Cows parade, they now wont just say, "good game. We fvckin lose most of the time by our metrics". You're a bunch of fvckin pu$$ies

The thread is about player count, not sales or scores.

You lems brought up scores.

Completely rekt.

I like how he keeps moving goal posts. When he can’t win the player count he brings scores, and when he gets called out for being a hypocrite with scores he jumps to stocks ?.

@cainetao11 ? You’re my amigo bro but your shifting goal posts any time you’re cornered. Admit you’ve owned yourself in this thread and move along.

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#104  Edited By ReCloud
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@cainetao11: this is System Wars, dearie, not Stocks War, so, no, it doesn't matter what M$ does as a company, it matters what it does to its gaming division.

Bringing stocks into the conversation just proves you have no argument when it comes to the Xbox, meaning you lost the discussion.

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#105  Edited By cainetao11
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@quadknight said:
@Ant_17 said:
@cainetao11 said:
@vfighter said:

@cainetao11: Oh now we're moving the goalposts to stocks bwahahahahaha. Dear god this is getting embarrassing.

Oh now we're moving the goalposts to sales instead of critical scores? Did you really make it that easy for us?

Even chutebox is calling cows out on this hypocrisy.

I'm a lem and fully admit, the PS has more highly rated games ( by other human beings that do not buy me games). And NOW, for some reason in the one area that Xbox has consistently kicked PS ass by the metrics of critical scores that Cows parade, they now wont just say, "good game. We fvckin lose most of the time by our metrics". You're a bunch of fvckin pu$$ies

The thread is about player count, not sales or scores.

You lems brought up scores.

Completely rekt.

I like how he keeps moving goal posts. When he can’t win the player count he brings scores, and when he gets called out for being a hypocrite with scores he jumps to stocks ?.

@cainetao11 ? You’re my amigo bro but your shifting goal posts any time you’re cornered. Admit you’ve owned yourself in this thread and move along.

Your mine. But I'm as rekt as I am Japanese. LMAO

GT doesn't measure up in critical response to Forza, never has. Its concrete at this point.

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#106  Edited By cainetao11
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@recloud said:

@cainetao11: this is System Wars, dearie, not Stocks War, so, no, it doesn't matter what M$ does as a company, it matters what it does to its gaming division.

Bringing stocks into the conversation just proves you have no argument when it comes to the Xbox, meaning you lost the discussion.

Sorry ballbag breath, Ive been here much longer then you, junior. Eat a c0ck.

There are threads on the first page referring to stock percentages. Its not new in SW. Futhermore, its about MONEY $$$$$$ same as SALE$$$$$$$ you guys bring that shit up, you deal with it.

When you become a Mod and have actual say here then I'll care. Until then suck it babe. MAKE ME STOP

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#107 Ant_17
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@cainetao11 said:
@quadknight said:

Completely rekt.

I like how he keeps moving goal posts. When he can’t win the player count he brings scores, and when he gets called out for being a hypocrite with scores he jumps to stocks ?.

@cainetao11 ? You’re my amigo bro but your shifting goal posts any time you’re cornered. Admit you’ve owned yourself in this thread and move along.

Your mine. But I'm as rekt as I am Japanese. LMAO

GT doesn't measure up in critical response to Forza, never has. Its concrete at this point.

Big whoop. Fans of the genre love it.

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#108 BenjaminBanklin
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@cainetao11 said:
@quadknight said:
@Ant_17 said:
@cainetao11 said:
@vfighter said:

@cainetao11: Oh now we're moving the goalposts to stocks bwahahahahaha. Dear god this is getting embarrassing.

Oh now we're moving the goalposts to sales instead of critical scores? Did you really make it that easy for us?

Even chutebox is calling cows out on this hypocrisy.

I'm a lem and fully admit, the PS has more highly rated games ( by other human beings that do not buy me games). And NOW, for some reason in the one area that Xbox has consistently kicked PS ass by the metrics of critical scores that Cows parade, they now wont just say, "good game. We fvckin lose most of the time by our metrics". You're a bunch of fvckin pu$$ies

The thread is about player count, not sales or scores.

You lems brought up scores.

Completely rekt.

I like how he keeps moving goal posts. When he can’t win the player count he brings scores, and when he gets called out for being a hypocrite with scores he jumps to stocks ?.

@cainetao11 ? You’re my amigo bro but your shifting goal posts any time you’re cornered. Admit you’ve owned yourself in this thread and move along.

Your mine. But I'm as rekt as I am Japanese. LMAO

GT doesn't measure up in critical response to Forza, never has. Its concrete at this point.

Oh NOW critical response matters. I remember being told this was a non-issue when Sea of Thieves and State of Decay 2 dropped.

Supposedly they were great by virtue of being Xbox games alone or something according to the fandom.

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#109 hrt_rulz01
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Lol, what a sad salty lot you cows are... still can't handle the FACT that the Forza games are the better racing games now. Let it go guys, you can't win them all :)

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#110 Ant_17
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@hrt_rulz01 said:

Lol, what a sad salty lot you cows are... still can't handle the FACT that the Forza games are the better racing games now. Let it go guys, you can't win them all :)

We have won them all.

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#111 hrt_rulz01
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@Ant_17 said:
@hrt_rulz01 said:

Lol, what a sad salty lot you cows are... still can't handle the FACT that the Forza games are the better racing games now. Let it go guys, you can't win them all :)

We have won them all.

Hmmm, if you say so :)

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#112 Ant_17
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@hrt_rulz01 said:
@Ant_17 said:
@hrt_rulz01 said:

Lol, what a sad salty lot you cows are... still can't handle the FACT that the Forza games are the better racing games now. Let it go guys, you can't win them all :)

We have won them all.

Hmmm, if you say so :)

The proof is right there, maybe stop starring at tiny pixels on your lame BoneX and you will see it.

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#113 hrt_rulz01
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@Ant_17 said:
@hrt_rulz01 said:
@Ant_17 said:
@hrt_rulz01 said:

Lol, what a sad salty lot you cows are... still can't handle the FACT that the Forza games are the better racing games now. Let it go guys, you can't win them all :)

We have won them all.

Hmmm, if you say so :)

The proof is right there, maybe stop starring at tiny pixels on your lame BoneX and you will see it.

Lol ok. I'm going to go talk to some adults now. Bye.

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#114 Ant_17
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@hrt_rulz01 said:
@Ant_17 said:
@hrt_rulz01 said:

Hmmm, if you say so :)

The proof is right there, maybe stop starring at tiny pixels on your lame BoneX and you will see it.

Lol ok. I'm going to go talk to some adults now. Bye.

What, you scared of kids? What a baby.

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#115  Edited By cainetao11
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@Ant_17 said:
@cainetao11 said:
@Ant_17 said:

The thread is about player count, not sales or scores.

You lems brought up scores.

Because you never just admit you lose by your paraded shit. Be a man, dude. Forza shits on GT in the video game critical space. Stop mangina'ing out.

As i said:

Critics love Forza.

Gamers want GT.

And Forza is stealing mechanics from GTS cause their game is crap, so who shits on who again?

Yes you did.

And Forza is the better racing game according to the industry. Gamers prefer COD/Madden/NBA2K etc so that's worth as much as the critics in the end.

Play everything you want, on anything, if possible everything. God's Speed folks. It has been for laughs (i don't even own FH3 or any Forza Motorsport or GT LMAO) and fun. Play on, my friends. I love you guys and gals and wish the best to all.

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@Ant_17 said:
@i_p_daily said:
@Ant_17 said:

@i_p_daily: Who said they don't matter.

The salt is huge since Forza is losing to a low scoring GT game.

What a shocker a game is selling better with twice the userbase.

No salt here as im playing the better game, but thanks for admitting that GT Sport is indeed the worse game :)

Forza is on PC, so there is even more salt that barely no one wants to play Forza.

Not unless you have the Win 10 store.

9 million players is "barely" anyone to you, so by that logic then no one must be playing GT Sport.

The saddest part of this conversation is that you know which game is better, so keep playing the fool all you want im finding it entertaining.

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Cows love to bring any argument around to sales. It's their get out of jail free card. On their way to bringing any discussion around to sales, they usually make a stop at scores and reviews. It's a place they like to visit if it fits their narrative.

The problem here is that there is really no place to hide. They bring up scores and reviews, and Forza has GT soundly beaten. The typical failsafe at that point is for them to run to sales.... Only it's no better there, with FH3 having over 9 million players vs GT Sport's 5.

As last ditch efforts, cows have brought up that Horizon is a spinoff, like Sport isn't or something. Then they'll usually just say something like "lol racing games" like GT isn't a playstation tent pole franchise.

It's a bit amusing, hysterically funny, and kinda sad all at once.

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#120 deactivated-5f3ec00254b0d
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Game Pass + Rentals. Probably sold 20 copies.

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#121 scatteh316
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5 million on a console with twice the install base doesn't sound that good tbh....

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#124 tormentos
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@scatteh316 said:

5 million on a console with twice the install base doesn't sound that good tbh....

PS4 80 million GT sport 5 million.

Xbox one 30 million + 150 million PC gamers FH3 9 million.

This ^^ is the correct way to look at it,FH3 is on PC and those 9 million players include PC as well,so FH3 sound even less good.

@i_p_daily said:
@Ant_17 said:

Forza is on PC, so there is even more salt that barely no one wants to play Forza.

Not unless you have the Win 10 store.

9 million players is "barely" anyone to you, so by that logic then no one must be playing GT Sport.

The saddest part of this conversation is that you know which game is better, so keep playing the fool all you want im finding it entertaining.

Windows 10 hits 500 million devices, growing by two-thirds in a year.

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/05/windows-10-hits-500-million-devices-growing-by-two-thirds-in-a-year/

Yeah like no one owns windows 10.

Now i am sure from those 500 millions at least 100 million if not more own gaming PC's.

Also is not 9 million PLAYING is 9 million has play the game,considering it include everything from demo to re buy copies is not really that much.

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#125 scatteh316
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@tormentos said:
@scatteh316 said:

5 million on a console with twice the install base doesn't sound that good tbh....

PS4 80 million GT sport 5 million.

Xbox one 30 million + 150 million PC gamers FH3 9 million.

This ^^ is the correct way to look at it,FH3 is on PC and those 9 million players include PC as well,so FH3 sound even less good.

It is not the correct way to look at it as I'm not comparing it to other games so why are you? Seems like a feeble attempt at damage control on your part.

5 million for an established brand like GT on a machine with an install base of ~80 million is not great.

GT is dying out.

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#126  Edited By BenjaminBanklin
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@hrt_rulz01 said:

Lol, what a sad salty lot you cows are... still can't handle the FACT that the Forza games are the better racing games now. Let it go guys, you can't win them all :)

You're an Xbox dude. There's been no wins for you since 2013.

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#127  Edited By tormentos
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@scatteh316 said:

It is not the correct way to look at it as I'm not comparing it to other games so why are you? Seems like a feeble attempt at damage control on your part.

5 million for an established brand like GT on a machine with an install base of ~80 million is not great.

GT is dying out.

Yes it is unless you want to pretend FH3 doesn't sell on PC and somehow is only on xbox.

Yeah because Forza is not an established franchise..lol

So 150 million PC gamers + 30 million xbox owners and the known sales figures for the game were 2.7 million which is a LONG shot from 9 million,which mean many of those were free demos, or re buys.

You can try to ignore PC all you want,is there and with a bigger user base than the PS4,so 9 million users on a more than 150 million user base is even worse.

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@tormentos said:
@scatteh316 said:

It is not the correct way to look at it as I'm not comparing it to other games so why are you? Seems like a feeble attempt at damage control on your part.

5 million for an established brand like GT on a machine with an install base of ~80 million is not great.

GT is dying out.

Yes it is unless you want to pretend FH3 doesn't sell on PC and somehow is only on xbox.

Yeah because Forza is not an established franchise..lol

So 150 million PC gamers + 30 million xbox owners and the known sales figures for the game were 2.7 million which is a LONG shot from 9 million,which mean many of those were free demos, or re buys.

You can try to ignore PC all you want,is there and with a bigger user base than the PS4,so 9 million users on a more than 150 million user base is even worse.

Forza doesn't work on ever PC ever made. It will only let you download and play it if your PC is up to it and meets minimum requirements.

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#129  Edited By scatteh316
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@tormentos said:
@scatteh316 said:

It is not the correct way to look at it as I'm not comparing it to other games so why are you? Seems like a feeble attempt at damage control on your part.

5 million for an established brand like GT on a machine with an install base of ~80 million is not great.

GT is dying out.

Yes it is unless you want to pretend FH3 doesn't sell on PC and somehow is only on xbox.

Yeah because Forza is not an established franchise..lol

So 150 million PC gamers + 30 million xbox owners and the known sales figures for the game were 2.7 million which is a LONG shot from 9 million,which mean many of those were free demos, or re buys.

You can try to ignore PC all you want,is there and with a bigger user base than the PS4,so 9 million users on a more than 150 million user base is even worse.

Where have I talked about Forza?

Why are you talking about Forza when I have not?

This thread is about GT:Sport, so why are you talking about Forza?

Are you salty at Forza or something?

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@scatteh316: for a spin off that had a really rough start, 5 million is pretty good.

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#131 Ant_17
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@cainetao11 said:
@Ant_17 said:

As i said:

Critics love Forza.

Gamers want GT.

And Forza is stealing mechanics from GTS cause their game is crap, so who shits on who again?

Yes you did.

And Forza is the better racing game according to the industry. Gamers prefer COD/Madden/NBA2K etc so that's worth as much as the critics in the end.

Play everything you want, on anything, if possible everything. God's Speed folks. It has been for laughs (i don't even own FH3 or any Forza Motorsport or GT LMAO) and fun. Play on, my friends. I love you guys and gals and wish the best to all.

lol, i can see the greatness.

What a POS series.

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#132  Edited By scatteh316
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@scatteh316: for a spin off that had a really rough start, 5 million is pretty good.

I beg to differ when looking at Driveclubs figures (Which flopped hard) in relation to GT:S.

Driveclub sold just over 2.37 million copies and there was a ~25 million PS4 user base at the time.

GT:S sport as of March 2018 hit 5 million with a user base of ~80 million

If you scale the PS4 user base up for Driveclub to the 80 million GT:S has and then adjust the sales to suit you'll quickly work out that GT:S is actually a bit of a sales flop as it would actually be behind Driveclub.

Granted Driveclub has been out longer but regardless GT:Sport should of completely trashed 5iveclub as it's the more premium racer with a much bigger following and massively bigger fan base.... but it's not.

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#133 QuadKnight
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@scatteh316 said:
@recloud said:

@scatteh316: for a spin off that had a really rough start, 5 million is pretty good.

I beg to differ when looking at Driveclubs figures (Which flopped hard) in relation to GT:S.

Driveclub sold just over 2.37 million copies and there was a ~25 million PS4 user base at the time.

GT:S sport as of March 2018 hit 5 million with a user base of ~80 million

If you scale the PS4 user base up for Driveclub to the 80 million GT:S has and then adjust the sales to suit you'll quickly work out that GT:S is actually a bit of a sales flop as it would actually be behind Driveclub.

Granted Driveclub has been out longer but regardless GT:Sport should of completely trashed 5iveclub as it's the more premium racer with a much bigger following and massively bigger fan base.... but it's not.

That's not the way it works. You don't scale based on install bases like that. First, you have to remember that when Driveclub came out there were a lot less games especially driving games. When you start using the install base excuse you start to sound like a lem.

According to your logic GT3 on the PS2 was a flop since it only sold 14 million on a userbase of 150 million. GTS hasn't been out up to a year and has already sold 5 million, that's a good number regardless and using install base is an idiotic way to determine if a game sold well or not.

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#134 ReCloud
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@quadknight: agreed, and considering the rough start and bad reviews, it is successful, it is doing pretty well.

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#135 QuadKnight
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@recloud said:

@quadknight: agreed, and considering the rough start and bad reviews, it is successful, it is doing pretty well.

Yup, it's not even a mainline GT game so comparing it to other mainline GT games is flawed.

5 million in less than a year for any game is a good number unless you're a multiplat like COD or GTA.

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@Ant_17 said:
@cainetao11 said:
@Ant_17 said:

As i said:

Critics love Forza.

Gamers want GT.

And Forza is stealing mechanics from GTS cause their game is crap, so who shits on who again?

Yes you did.

And Forza is the better racing game according to the industry. Gamers prefer COD/Madden/NBA2K etc so that's worth as much as the critics in the end.

Play everything you want, on anything, if possible everything. God's Speed folks. It has been for laughs (i don't even own FH3 or any Forza Motorsport or GT LMAO) and fun. Play on, my friends. I love you guys and gals and wish the best to all.

lol, i can see the greatness.

What a POS series.

Ahh huh.