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#1 SecretPolice
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Just Wow !

Though nothing yet @E3 about Forza 3 ( maybe today :) ) but this is Almost unbelievable for Sony !

Kazunori Yamauchi: More Prologue, no GT5 soon, GT PSP still coming

by Randy Nelson Jul 17th 2008 9:00AM

We somehow managed to get Gran Turismo creator Kazunori Yamauchi to slam on his brakes for a moment today and talk to us about his flagship racing franchise. According to the Polyphony Digital boss, his studio is focusing a majority of its efforts on Gran Turismo 5 Prologue. In fact, he confirmed that the proper, disc-based Gran Turismo 5 might not even roll out before 2010.

In the meantime, Polyphony will continue to expand Prologuewith additional cars, tracks, and features. Yamauchi couldn't speak to specific plans, but mentioned that an new update is planned for the near future.

With all of the work his company is putting into the next console GTinstallment, Yamauchi tells us that it hasn't forgotten the long-delayed Gran Turismo 4 Mobilefor PSP. He confirms that the game - originally announced at E3 2004 - is still actively in development, although it isn't planned for release until after GT5. That would be 2011 for those with pen and calendar in hand.

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#2 MojondeVACA
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lol, the just wait is getting bigger again.
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Just Wait :D
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#4 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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This is why the ps3 has such a long life cycle

your going to be waiting for games for atleast 10 years :lol:

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this wont end well
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I was looking foward to the game but a possible 2011 release? Forza 3 here i come
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#7 Dreams-Visions
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****.

I'm mad as hell. See, this is the **** I'm talking about.

This is perhaps the single most disappointing thing I've heard at E3. You thought I was pissed about the Wii?

You've not seen anything yet.

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this wont end welllawlessx
Me the messenger - Stop "puts hands in the air" - don't shoot. ;)
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#9 SapSacPrime
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Thats bad :? and to think people have been comparing this to FM2, a game which will have been out 3 years by the time GT5 gets here if this is correct, I would imagine FM will have a sequel by this time.
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With a delay as big as this, they better be changing a lot of things in the game. This is a huge dissapointment.
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the game will be as gd as it can be i dont mind waiting for this.

i cant wait to get on the top gear test track and try and beat the stigs times < that feature alone makes it the best racing game for me lol

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#12 Dreams-Visions
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Forza 4 will be in production for the NEXT XBOX and they'll be showing off that footage before GT5 comes out. what a joke.

Turn 10 > > > > > > > Polyphony Digital

flatly.

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#13 thrones
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"Gran Turismo 5might not even roll out before 2010."

As Barack Obama said: Believe.

Come on, make that might a no way Polyphony :|

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the game will be as gd as it can be i dont mind waiting for this.

i cant wait to get on the top gear test track and try and beat the stigs times < that feature alone makes it the best racing game for me lol

slikonebtz

screw that. Turn 10 will have put 2 Forza's on the market in the SAME TIME we've awaited JUST ONE Gran Turismo. They'll be hard at work on Forza 4 by the time this game comes out.

This is ridiculous. No game requires a 5-year development cycle. it won't deliver like that.

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#15 SecretPolice
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Forza 4 will be in production for the NEXT XBOX and they'll be showing off that footage before GT5 comes out. what a joke.

Turn 10 > > > > > > > Polyphony Digital

flatly.

Dreams-Visions

Not much doubt remains.

Agreed.

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That's terrible. But hopefully they roll out some good things for Prologue
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2010!? If it takes that long it had best be the most realisitic racing game ever, ah well, theres still going to be other racing games before then.

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That car damage better be like nothing we've ever seen.
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just right around the corner
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Wow things couldn't look worse for Sony atm.
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#21 The_Game21x
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This was already reported earlier this year so this comes as no big surprise for me.

If Turn 10 does indeed deliver Forza 3 before Polyphony finishes GT5, that will be truly sad. But hey, Forza 2 is still my favorite racing simulator so I sure as hell won't be complaining. :D

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If its taking that long, how much has this game cost to develop? How many man hours have been thrown at it?

And going on the prologue, its still failed at the some of the most basic aspects of motor racing.

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Wait a minute, so GT5 will take 4 years to comes out to the PS3 lol? I guess that means PS4 is going to have GT6 because by the time that is made it will be 2015!
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****.

I'm mad as hell. See, this is the **** I'm talking about.

This is perhaps the single most disappointing thing I've heard at E3. You thought I was pissed about the Wii?

You've not seen anything yet.

Dreams-Visions

Good, I'm glad you're angry. That means I can expect another awesome gif/sig. :P That sucks though....2010? Come one there will have been 2 Forza by then (and possibly a third). Get with it polyphony. We all know it's going to be a great game, but cutting out a couple hundred cars may help you get it out sooner.

And what the hell Polyphony, 2011 for the PSP version? I remember that being announced before the PSP was even released. I'm not bashing Polyphony as they make great games, but releasing a hotly anticipated game almost 5 YEARS after the launch of the PS#?!? That's unacceptable.

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#25 Couth_
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This was already reported earlier this year so this comes as no big surprise for me.

If Turn 10 does indeed deliver Forza 3 before Polyphony finishes GT5, that will be truly sad. But hey, Forza 2 is still my favorite racing simulator so I sure as hell won't be complaining. :D

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2010!? If it takes that long it had best be the most realisitic racing game ever, ah well, theres still going to be other racing games before then.

ONLYDOD

there's only so much you can do on a console designed in 2004 with parts that weren't even new in 2006. realistically, there should be more than a couple PC racing games that'll put GT5 to absolute shame. Personally, I'll be surprised if GT5 can even keep up with Forza 3.

There's simply no ******* excuse for this.

None.

Not a 5 year + development cycle. GTFO, Polyphony.

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I think they are spending too much time on unimportant aspects of the game and forgetting about the important flaws that were in the rest of the series.
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So in theory we will have Three Forza's released in between GT4 and GT5?

Wow.

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Well that explains why sony is milking the cows with a $40 demo and giving them GT TV so sony can keep them entertained while they wait for GT5 in 2010/11 :lol:
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#30 Dreams-Visions
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

****.

I'm mad as hell. See, this is the **** I'm talking about.

This is perhaps the single most disappointing thing I've heard at E3. You thought I was pissed about the Wii?

You've not seen anything yet.

Eddie5vs1

Good, I'm glad you're angry. That means I can expect another awesome gif/sig. :P That sucks though....2010? Come one there will have been 2 Forza by then (and possibly a third). Get with it polyphony. We all know it's going to be a great game, but cutting out a couple hundred cars may help you get it out sooner.

And what the hell Polyphony, 2011 for the PSP version? I remember that being announced before the PSP was even released. I'm not bashing Polyphony as they make great games, but releasing a hotly anticipated game almost 5 YEARS after the launch of the PS#?!? That's unacceptable.

Time to just accept the fact that GT PSP is vaporware. That **** was promised in 2003 or 2004. by 2011, we won't be on the PSP anymore. We'll be using PSP2's.

damn joke.

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

This was already reported earlier this year so this comes as no big surprise for me.

If Turn 10 does indeed deliver Forza 3 before Polyphony finishes GT5, that will be truly sad. But hey, Forza 2 is still my favorite racing simulator so I sure as hell won't be complaining. :D

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I wonder how we all missed that

I don't know how we missed that either. that should have been gigantic news.
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#31 angelkimne
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No sriously how long does it take to make a genric Racing game, it should be easy and quick, i mean you just copy real life tracks and cars and put some other features in, racing games are probably the easiest type of game to make.
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#32 Dreams-Visions
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So in theory we will have Three Forza's released in between GT4 and GT5?

Wow.

cosmostein77

Turn 10 > Polyphony Digital.

Clearly they have a more talented team at this point, capable of putting out feature-rich, robust, AAA titles more quickly than Polyphony can finish a couple of car models.

*sigh*

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No sriously how long does it take to make a genric Racing game, it should be easy and quick, i mean you just copy real life tracks and cars and put some other features in, racing games are probably the easiest type of game to make.angelkimne
well, when you're trying to stay true to life with physics, it will take longer. and they're trying to do lots of car models.

but at some point, you begin to approach a line where doing more provides you with so little benefit that you may lose more than you gain.

for example, you could methodically place mustard in just the right locations on a hotdog such that every bite gets the *perfect* amount of mustard relative to hotdog.

But if it takes you 30 minutes to do that and the hotdog is ******* cold, you wasted a lot of ******* time and won't even want the hotdog anymore.

I wish Polyphony could have understood that simple lesson.

I'm disgusted.

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No sriously how long does it take to make a genric Racing game, it should be easy and quick, i mean you just copy real life tracks and cars and put some other features in, racing games are probably the easiest type of game to make.angelkimne
They said it takes 120 days to render one car. :|
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I could be dead by then!!!! I believe Raging Raven said it the best: RAGE!
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How much fail can one console generate before the elite fan boys even swim out of "de nile"

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[QUOTE="angelkimne"]No sriously how long does it take to make a genric Racing game, it should be easy and quick, i mean you just copy real life tracks and cars and put some other features in, racing games are probably the easiest type of game to make.thrones
They said it takes 120 days to render one car. :|

then they need to find a better rendering engine or render less cars.

what you don't do is tell gamers to wait 5+ years for a game that will look outdated by the time it launches. BALANCE is the key to life.

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[QUOTE="angelkimne"]No sriously how long does it take to make a genric Racing game, it should be easy and quick, i mean you just copy real life tracks and cars and put some other features in, racing games are probably the easiest type of game to make.thrones
They said it takes 120 days to render one car. :|

But they have 110 people working there.

Say they have 35 coders then if every person does 2 cars then they can have 210 cars in a year.

Not that they couldn't just take GT4/Prolouge renders and improve on them a bit.

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And GT PSP still coming!!! LOL, This is exactly the kind of stuff that makes me laugh when I see all the guys claiming MAG and GoW3 are 2009 titles.

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[QUOTE="thrones"][QUOTE="angelkimne"]No sriously how long does it take to make a genric Racing game, it should be easy and quick, i mean you just copy real life tracks and cars and put some other features in, racing games are probably the easiest type of game to make.angelkimne

They said it takes 120 days to render one car. :|

But they have 110 people working there.

Say they have 35 coders then if ever person does 2 cars then they can have 210 cars in a year.

Not that they couldn't just take GT4 renders and improve on them a bit.

I'm telling you, man. sometimes you have to rein people in. tell them, "Hey...you have 4 years to get X product out the door or bust." sometimes you just have to tell them that otherwise, they'll just go on and on forever and fail.

Polyphony should have had GT5 out *THIS YEAR* and should have begun work on GT6 the beginning of next year.

And GT PSP still coming!!! LOL, This is exactly the kind of stuff that makes me laugh when I see all the guys claiming MAG and GoW3 are 2009 titles.

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...Woooow. Can't say I really care though...I don't like any GT after 2,but I see how many would be very dissapointed. :| Sony has been REALLY sloppy this gen.
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good lord...
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GT5 = 2010

GTPSP = 2010 or 2011

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#44 thrones
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GT5 = 2010

GTPSP = 2010 or 2011

Blazevoir
According to them they've ceased development on GT PSP until GT5 is finished.
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[QUOTE="thrones"][QUOTE="angelkimne"]No sriously how long does it take to make a genric Racing game, it should be easy and quick, i mean you just copy real life tracks and cars and put some other features in, racing games are probably the easiest type of game to make.Dreams-Visions

They said it takes 120 days to render one car. :|

then they need to find a better rendering engine or render less cars.

what you don't do is tell gamers to wait 5+ years for a game that will look outdated by the time it launches. BALANCE is the key to life.

Now you're just crying. You act like upgrading and putting in an entirely new damage system into a game is an easy task. They don't need a new engine to model the cars. They take so long because they are the ONLY developers right now who even take the time to put effort into accurately modeling the cars unlike any Forza game. It will be a feat if Forza 3 looks better than GT 5. I highly doubt it will.

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I wished they'd speed up, but not rush the project though
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

[QUOTE="thrones"][QUOTE="angelkimne"]No sriously how long does it take to make a genric Racing game, it should be easy and quick, i mean you just copy real life tracks and cars and put some other features in, racing games are probably the easiest type of game to make.Cedmln

They said it takes 120 days to render one car. :|

then they need to find a better rendering engine or render less cars.

what you don't do is tell gamers to wait 5+ years for a game that will look outdated by the time it launches. BALANCE is the key to life.

Now you're just crying. You act like upgrading and putting in an entirely new damage system into a game is an easy task. They don't need a new engine to model the cars. They take so long because they are the ONLY developers right now who even take the time to put effort into accurately modeling the cars unlike any Forza game. It will be a feat if Forza 3 looks better than GT 5. I highly doubt it will.

go grab a tissue for Polyphony. I don't want to hear tears about how boo-hoo hard it must be to put damage systems in their game. How many other games have damage systems?

keep the excuses. this is pathetic.

and Gran Turismo Mobile will have taken 7 years or more to develop.

It DOESN'T TAKE THAT LONG. If it did, we'd see Forza, Burnout, GTR and these other high-quality, feature-filled games taking as long.

but please. spare me the damage control. I'm not the one.

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#48 Big_Boss465
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If they wouldn't focus on GT TV perhaps they could get GT5 out already. This is ridiculous, if MS can release two Forza games by the time Polyphony puts out one GT I will be disappointed.
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No sriously how long does it take to make a genric Racing game, it should be easy and quick, i mean you just copy real life tracks and cars and put some other features in, racing games are probably the easiest type of game to make.angelkimne

Everything you're saying is exponentially more difficult than you're making it out to be.

You can't just throw a copy of a real life track into the game and be done with it, it has to be precise. Every inch of the track has to be meticulously pored over until it is a carbon copy of the real thing, otherwise, you're sacrificing incredible amounts of realism to do so, something that is a huge no-no in this game.

Polyphony Digital has stated that the car models in GT5 take 120 days to make. It's not easy to create a virtual replica of a real life car in a video game. Again, everything has to be recreated with meticulous attention to detail. something that takes a very long time to do.

I'm not even going to get into all of the physics and general game coding that has to be done but suffice to say, Racing games are far more difficult to make than you think. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if racing sims were among the most difficult games to develop.

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#50 angelkimne
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

[QUOTE="thrones"][QUOTE="angelkimne"]No sriously how long does it take to make a genric Racing game, it should be easy and quick, i mean you just copy real life tracks and cars and put some other features in, racing games are probably the easiest type of game to make.Cedmln

They said it takes 120 days to render one car. :|

then they need to find a better rendering engine or render less cars.

what you don't do is tell gamers to wait 5+ years for a game that will look outdated by the time it launches. BALANCE is the key to life.

Now you're just crying. You act like upgrading and putting in an entirely new damage system into a game is an easy task. They don't need a new engine to model the cars. They take so long because they are the ONLY developers right now who even take the time to put effort into accurately modeling the cars unlike any Forza game. It will be a feat if Forza 3 looks better than GT 5. I highly doubt it will.

I don't share your opinion. Amd if you don't think Forza then what about GRID and Burnout Paradise ???