Sure whatever helps you sleep good at night. GT5 will score hgher and sell better then Forza 3. I can guarantee that.
IronBass
Sell better? Yeah. Score better? That's impossible to know. FM3 will be difficult to match, if FZ2 is any indication. Forza sold better, relatively, than GT4...
[QUOTE="Jandurin"] Forza sold better, relatively, than GT4... And that is news to me. I thought GT was for Sony what Halo was for MS... super mega dooper seller.
Sure whatever helps you sleep good at night. GT5 will score hgher and sell better then Forza 3. I can guarantee that.
Jandurin
Sell better? Yeah. Score better? That's impossible to know. FM3 will be difficult to match, if FZ2 is any indication. Forza sold better, relatively, than GT4... Forza 2 sold nearly 4m, GT4 sold almost 10m, GT5 Prologue sold 3m (and it's just a big demo)
[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="Jandurin"] Forza sold better, relatively, than GT4... And that is news to me. I thought GT was for Sony what Halo was for MS... super mega dooper seller. GT4 sold 8 million on a 100+ million selling console, Forza 2 sold 4 million. That said, some of the Forza 2 sales are bundle sales. It's just impossible to tell, is all.
[QUOTE="Jandurin"]GT4 sold 8 million on a 100+ million selling console, Forza 2 sold 4 million. That said, some of the Forza 2 sales are bundle sales. It's just impossible to tell, is all. Umm you make a good point. I forgot to consider how big the PS2 userbase was.
[QUOTE="IronBass"]Because the GT series sell, and sell, and keep selling. Jandurin
a lot of that had to do with the PS2 being so far in front.
Because the god damn DEMO sold 3 freaking MILLION units!
What 360 fans need to stfu with all the Forza 3 > GT5 thing. I doubt that Forza can handle GT5
rogerjak
what makes you think the demo doesn't comprise the majority of future sales? You doubt.Simple : I see people going crazy wanting GT5 all around. Even friends of mine that don't like car games wat this game like there won't be more games in the future.
Simple : I see people going crazy wanting GT5 all around. Even friends of mine that don't like car games wat this game like there won't be more games in the future.rogerjak
Simple: anecdotal evidence is not evidence at all ;)
Sorry 3m, I typed wrong Check Vgchartz (close to actual sales). http://vgchartz.com/worldtotals.php?name=Forza&console=&publisher=&genre=&minSales=0&results=50&sort=Total http://vgchartz.com/worldtotals.php?name=Gran+Turismo&console=&publisher=&genre=&minSales=0&results=50&sort=Total
Simple : I see people going crazy wanting GT5 all around. Even friends of mine that don't like car games wat this game like there won't be more games in the future.
rogerjak
anecdotal. My friends don't even own PS3s because they're overpriced. The one that does uses it for MGS4 and plays his 360 when he wants to game.
[QUOTE="double_heist"]Sorry 3m, I typed wrong Check Vgchartz (close to actual sales). http://vgchartz.com/worldtotals.php?name=Forza&console=&publisher=&genre=&minSales=0&results=50&sort=Total http://vgchartz.com/worldtotals.php?name=Gran+Turismo&console=&publisher=&genre=&minSales=0&results=50&sort=Totalhttp://vgchartz.com/swlaunch.php?reg1=All&game1=Forza+Motorsport+2+-+X360®2=All&game2=Gran+Turismo+4+-+PS2®3=All&game3=Gran+Turismo+5+Prologue+-+PS3&weeks=200 My link compares them side by side :)
[QUOTE="Jandurin"] anecdotal. My friends don't even own PS3s because they're overpriced. The one that does uses it for MGS4 and plays his 360 when he wants to game. I missed you so much in SW Jand :oops:
Sure whatever helps you sleep good at night. GT5 will score hgher and sell better then Forza 3. I can guarantee that.
Jandurin
Sell better? Yeah. Score better? That's impossible to know. FM3 will be difficult to match, if FZ2 is any indication. Forza sold better, relatively, than GT4... Mmm. Mmm.. How much did Forza 2 hit sales wise? Does anyone know that?
[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="IronBass"]GT5 will destroy it sales-wise, though.rogerjak
Why?Because the god damn DEMO sold 3 freaking MILLION units!
What 360 fans need to stfu with all the Forza 3 > GT5 thing. I doubt that Forza can handle GT5
which other quality racing games were PS3 owners going to buy at the time of Prologues release? in fact there were barely any quality PS3 titles at all until MGS4 release. I think PS3 owners need to stop pretending GT is the best racing game ever and realise how much less time its taken to make Forza 3, its embarrassing. I think Turn 10 deserve some credit.
[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="double_heist"]Sorry 3m, I typed wrong Check Vgchartz (close to actual sales). http://vgchartz.com/worldtotals.php?name=Forza&console=&publisher=&genre=&minSales=0&results=50&sort=Total http://vgchartz.com/worldtotals.php?name=Gran+Turismo&console=&publisher=&genre=&minSales=0&results=50&sort=Totalhttp://vgchartz.com/swlaunch.php?reg1=All&game1=Forza+Motorsport+2+-+X360®2=All&game2=Gran+Turismo+4+-+PS2®3=All&game3=Gran+Turismo+5+Prologue+-+PS3&weeks=100 My link compares them side by side :) GT4 sure gots high sales. And 3m sales for a big demo that sells at the price of an actual, that's pretty... Wow. Forza's sales look good to though.
[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="Jandurin"] anecdotal. My friends don't even own PS3s because they're overpriced. The one that does uses it for MGS4 and plays his 360 when he wants to game. I missed you so much in SW Jand :oops: Aww, shucks. :oops: :lol:
Because the god damn DEMO sold 3 freaking MILLION units!
What 360 fans need to stfu with all the Forza 3 > GT5 thing. I doubt that Forza can handle GT5
which other quality racing games were PS3 owners going to buy at the time of Prologues release? in fact there were barely any quality PS3 titles at all until MGS4 release. I think PS3 owners need to stop pretending GT is the best racing game ever and realise how much less time its taken to make Forza 3, its embarrassing. I think Turn 10 deserve some credit. Indeed, but it helps that Turn 10 aren't obsessed with getting the car model correct to the nearest millimeter.
[QUOTE="double_heist"]GT4 sure gots high sales. And 3m sales for a big demo that sells at the price of an actual, that's pretty... Wow. Forza's sales look good to though. True enough. It's a good game, I just don't know if GT5 sell as well on a console that has 1/6th of the userbase. As far as we know, GT5 Prologue is indicative of total sales for the full game.
Since when was GT5 finished? so far all we have got is a glorified demo, so forza has destroyed nothing
flippin_flames
and? We already know GT's approach and that is why its going to fail against Forza.
well tell me this approach, and why its going to fail
they are going for realism and realistic insane graphics while not putting much effort into the gameplay as Forza has done for years. Sims are boring and I play video games for fun.
I like how Forza 3 went away from your typical race tracks and looks like they are doing their own unique tracks.; that automatically makes it win for me.
[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="double_heist"]GT4 sure gots high sales. And 3m sales for a big demo that sells at the price of an actual, that's pretty... Wow. Forza's sales look good to though. True enough. It's a good game, I just don't know if GT5 sell as well on a console that has 1/6th of the userbase. As far as we know, GT5 Prologue is indicative of total sales for the full game. Who knows? Time will tell? Oh yea, isn't the GT fanbase quite big in Europe?
[QUOTE="IronBass"]Because the GT series sell, and sell, and keep selling. Jandurin
a lot of that had to do with the PS2 being so far in front.That is honestly the most silly argument ever. PS2 could have sold 1000 million but it's sales without have shooted to a 100 milion cuz there is only a set no. of people that are going to be interested in a particular game.
According to your logic no game has ever sold relatively well on the DS or ps2.:roll:
[QUOTE="double_heist"]GT4 sure gots high sales. And 3m sales for a big demo that sells at the price of an actual, that's pretty... Wow. Forza's sales look good to though.Jandurin
True enough. It's a good game, I just don't know if GT5 sell as well on a console that has 1/6th of the userbase. As far as we know, GT5 Prologue is indicative of total sales for the full game. Why would Prologue's sales be indicative of the total for GT5 when neither GT4 prologue or any of the GT Concepts sold anywhere near the amount of the full games?
Edit: We should really put off any threats against GT5 before we actually like, see it. If it doesn't show at E3 however, go nuts, it's probably a trainwreck but come on -- only a couple of hours left until Sony's presentation. Can't this thread wait a bit?
[QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"] and? We already know GT's approach and that is why its going to fail against Forza. Tjeremiah1988
well tell me this approach, and why its going to fail
they are going for realism and realistic insane graphics while not putting much effort into the gameplay as Forza has done for years. Sims are boring and I play video games for fun.
[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="IronBass"]Because the GT series sell, and sell, and keep selling. Vagal_Fiddle_6
a lot of that had to do with the PS2 being so far in front.That is honestly the most silly argument ever. PS2 could have sold 1000 million but it's sales without have shooted to a 100 milion cuz there is only a set no. of people that are going to be interested in a particular game.
According to your logic no game has ever sold relatively well on the DS or ps2.:roll:
Umm, well, you see friend, some of those that bought PS2 and Gran Turismo LAST gen are buying 360 and Forza this gen :) Last gen, GT3, GT4 and PS2 was the only real option :o
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