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#151 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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[QUOTE="SpinoRaptor24"]

[QUOTE="akira2465"]Just wait lemmings :)RushKing

It's funny how the 360 is getting its second Forza game this gen while the PS3 is still waiting for its first.

Its because Sony finishes there games instead of releasing them all rushed and half assed.

Forza 2 was not half-assed :?
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#152 CTR360
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both are awesome i hope polyphony give us release date i hate waiting gt5
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#153 inertk
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My reply to TheGame. It's not a hunch but what should be common knowledge. Put it this way, I've had this discussion with the Sony Defense Force, Xbots, Nintendo Fanboys, GT fans, Killzone fans, Halo fans, Gears fans and every time I say the same thing. It just never seems to *stick*. Consoles games have aliasing. Not always obvious, but visible. Forza 2 was an aliased game, you're telling me that they've accomplished those graphics while also adding obscene, obscene amounts of AA? Because there isn't one console game that looks that clean -- hell people with phat rigs can't always achieve that fidelity. It could simply be rendered at a high resolution, and downscaled even if the shot was taken from gameplay but that's still a bullshot. But you wanted me to prove it, so I will.  Here's a screencap from the replay footage. What's this!? Jaggies! O: But, Turn 10 told me there wouldn't be any!  A bullshot from them. In a similar area, obvious decline in AA+AF from the replay footage. Verdict = Screens are bullshots. I didn't even need to do a comparison to see that for myself. For people that spend so much time talking about the technical aspects of games, you sure are gullible.

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#154 Deathlessness
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Vagal_Fiddle_6"]What?

Vagal_Fiddle_6

Can I help you?

GT3 was the highest selling console game of last gen(maybe san andreas sold more). You dont know what you are saying.:|

Sorry, not even close.
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#155 radoman
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Forza 2 is the best racing sim i have ever played. Forza 3 will be better and it looks phenominal.

Forza is currently the best racing sim on the market... when is gt5 coming out again? Who knows and who cares? Not me or anyone else with a 360.

enjoy you wait.

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#156 dsmccracken
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I think that GT5 will sell more than FM3... however, if you add the different iterations of Forza and Project Gotham that 360 owners have enjoyed while Sony fans have been waiting for one single installment of GT5...
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#157 W1NGMAN-
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GT5 will destroy it sales-wise, though.IronBass

Which sucks, GT5 is like Madden of the racing genre even though theres a better product avalible it still sales millions more.

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#158 ___gamemaster__
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maybe they're putting everything thy've got on GT5.. but man this just takes too long its kinda frustrating.

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#159 clyde46
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You know what, you can argue about which sold more or whatever. Ill just be buying both games. A true racing fan will have both.

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#160 heretrix
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[QUOTE="SpinoRaptor24"]

[QUOTE="akira2465"]Just wait lemmings :)RushKing

It's funny how the 360 is getting its second Forza game this gen while the PS3 is still waiting for its first.

Its because Sony finishes there games instead of releasing them all rushed and half assed.

None of the Forza games were rushed or half assed. They consistanly score better than the GT games released in the same time period.

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#161 Malta_1980
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personally i'll make sure to do myself a favour and get both Forza3 & GT5... any racing fan with both consoles surely will do that too..

On which one is better, i find they have a different approach to racing but both (Forza2 & GT5p) delivered a great racing experience imo.. So it will be nice seeing which from GT5 & Forza3 will raise the bar once again..

Finally i have no doubts both games will deliver and end up being amazing racing titles..

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#162 heretrix
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personally i'll make sure to do myself a favour and get both Forza3 & GT5... any racing fan with both consoles surely will do that too..

Malta_1980

Same here.I might even have to add NFS: shift in the mix. It looks great. But which console to get it for is the REAL question.

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#163 Leejjohno
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[QUOTE="IronBass"]GT5 will destroy it sales-wise, though.W1NGMAN-

Which sucks, GT5 is like Madden of the racing genre even though theres a better product avalible it still sales millions more.

That's just wrong dude. GT is nothing like madden.

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#164 kyacat
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GT5 not even in trouble just because Forza 3 coming out.
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#165 Deathlessness
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[QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"]

[QUOTE="IronBass"]GT5 will destroy it sales-wise, though.Leejjohno

Which sucks, GT5 is like Madden of the racing genre even though theres a better product avalible it still sales millions more.

That's just wrong dude. GT is nothing like madden.

Unluckily, it doesn't change the fact that the latest Forza outscored the latest Gran Turismo game.
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#166 Sokol4ever
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You can rest assured, when the final version of Gran Turismo 5 arrives majority of negativity towards probably the most realistic driving simulator is going to stop.

Polyphony Digital has been in the market with GT franchise before anyone even realised it's possible.

There is a reason why it's the most sold Sony franchise, over 54 Millions.

You can call GT5 Prologue a demo all day long, those who have the game certainly have much different opinions. You name me a demo that has fully integrated 16 players online racing, the revolutionary dashboard in-car view and car psychics with over 80+ licensed cars.

Take a good look at Forza 2 details and try to say GT5 is a demo again...

Try to be rational and wait until you see what full release of Gran Turismo 5 has to offer. After that, make your judgements. I already know some details from my sources. If you though 400 cars in a lot, you haven't seen GT5 yet.

Time will show that Gran Turismo is more then capable of competing for #1 racing simulator. In fact, I have yet to see a game in scale of Gran Turismo offerings to car enthusiast.

Forza 3 looks good and I hope it does well. However, the absurd level of fanboys sometimes seriously makes me wonder how some people even call themselves gamers...

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#167 racastro65
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yes it is... its been the same game for years!

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#168 Ibacai
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GT5 is vapor ware at the moment. FM3 is an actual game. FM3 wins unanimously.
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#169 Afrikanxl
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hahahaha what?....DAMN WRC, NASCAR.. DAMAGE? GAME LOOOKS AMMMMMAZING!!!!!!! Damn.

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#170 deactivated-594be627b82ba
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sorry dude but with the trailer they just showed FM will need to step it's game up

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#171 SionPT
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just the fact gt has damage owns

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#172 Fizzman
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"teaser" thats the keyword i seriously dont see it releasing till late 2010.

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#173 Eddie-Vedder
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GT5 > Forza 3 I have no doubt in my mind. The game looks mindblowing.

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#174 GaMeR_Willz
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Disagreed. I think GT5 is going to the bestest racing game out there with Rally, NASCAR and Super Car all in one! Thanks to the Blu-ray.

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#175 santoron
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GT5 presentation looked amazing and NASCAR added? They need to get it out, but when they do it's gonna DOMINATE!
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#176 Leejjohno
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[QUOTE="Leejjohno"]

[QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"]

Which sucks, GT5 is like Madden of the racing genre even though theres a better product avalible it still sales millions more.

Deathlessness

That's just wrong dude. GT is nothing like madden.

Unluckily, it doesn't change the fact that the latest Forza outscored the latest Gran Turismo game.

But those scores are irrelevant to the reasons for me enjoying GT4 more than both of the last forza games.

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#177 _Peoples_Champ_
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The gt series is old and boring. Too this date they still have no features modern racing simulators have.

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#178 gago-gago
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Did they even announce a release date for GT5 at E3?

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#179 Fizzman
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Did they even announce a release date for GT5 at E3?

gago-gago

Nope it was just a teaser.

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#180 Leejjohno
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The gt series is old and boring. Too this date they still have no features modern racing simulators have.

_Peoples_Champ_

I bet you have a hardcore extensive list of features a game needs to tick off... Would you care to share with me what those features are.

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#181 _Peoples_Champ_
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Disagreed. I think GT5 is going to the bestest racing game out there with Rally, NASCAR and Super Car all in one! Thanks to the Blu-ray.

GaMeR_Willz
What about the low RAM specs ps3 has, your going to be seeing the same loading times as with gt4. BORING. The most they will show of gt5 are non playable replay video's Mark my words, they will try and say it's in game, but ps3 owners will be saddened when just like prologue.
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#182 Deathlessness
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[QUOTE="Deathlessness"][QUOTE="Leejjohno"]

That's just wrong dude. GT is nothing like madden.

Leejjohno

Unluckily, it doesn't change the fact that the latest Forza outscored the latest Gran Turismo game.

But those scores are irrelevant to the reasons for me enjoying GT4 more than both of the last forza games.

Go and play your Gran Turismo games, and enjoy them. It doesn't change the facts, though.
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#183 ace52387
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There's so little known about all the details of GT5 that it's hard to say if it's in trouble or not. The Forza 3 demo at MS's conference does tap into what most of this gigantic racing game market loves, driving in cool cars that you could otherwise not afford. It ups it another notch by throwing in the ridiculously rich customization options which allow you to basically pimp your own ride. With overhaulin, pimp my ride and all of those other car makeover shows, who wouldn't want to try their own hand at prettying up an already beautiful car?

GT5 could obviously still include something equally rich in terms of customization. At this point i don't think the little details regarding which is the better driving sim matters anymore, since a vast majority of people who buy these games probably won't notice slight differences.

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My reply to TheGame. It's not a hunch but what should be common knowledge. Put it this way, I've had this discussion with the Sony Defense Force, Xbots, Nintendo Fanboys, GT fans, Killzone fans, Halo fans, Gears fans and every time I say the same thing. It just never seems to *stick*. Consoles games have aliasing. Not always obvious, but visible. Forza 2 was an aliased game, you're telling me that they've accomplished those graphics while also adding obscene, obscene amounts of AA? Because there isn't one console game that looks that clean -- hell people with phat rigs can't always achieve that fidelity. It could simply be rendered at a high resolution, and downscaled even if the shot was taken from gameplay but that's still a bullshot. But you wanted me to prove it, so I will.

] Here's a screencap from the replay footage. What's this!? Jaggies! O: But, Turn 10 told me there wouldn't be any!

A bullshot from them. In a similar area, obvious decline in AA+AF from the replay footage. Verdict = Screens are bullshots. I didn't even need to do a comparison to see that for myself. For people that spend so much time talking about the technical aspects of games, you sure are gullible.

inertk

obviously the first picture has been decompressed in some way.. Look at the logo for starters and the resolution throughout the picture... Also Turn10 NEVER said there will be no jaggies..

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#185 Leejjohno
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[QUOTE="Leejjohno"]

[QUOTE="Deathlessness"] Unluckily, it doesn't change the fact that the latest Forza outscored the latest Gran Turismo game.Deathlessness

But those scores are irrelevant to the reasons for me enjoying GT4 more than both of the last forza games.

Go and play your Gran Turismo games, and enjoy them. It doesn't change the facts, though.

My dear sir, I do believe ones own opinion is more important than somebody elses when it comes to enjoying a video game.

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#186 jakehouston88
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Forza what? *SLAP SLAP* GT5 is your DADDY! Disturbed123

:lol:. Forza What, Forza Who Cares?

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#187 Deathlessness
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[QUOTE="Deathlessness"][QUOTE="Leejjohno"]

But those scores are irrelevant to the reasons for me enjoying GT4 more than both of the last forza games.

Leejjohno

Go and play your Gran Turismo games, and enjoy them. It doesn't change the facts, though.

My dear sir, I do believe ones own opinion is more important than somebody elses when it comes to enjoying a video game.

Opinions and facts are two different things.
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#188 The_Game21x
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obviously the first picture has been decompressed in some way.. Look at the logo for starters and the resolution throughout the picture... Also Turn10 NEVER said there will be no jaggies..

Tjeremiah1988

Not to mention that the picture was taken directly from a video, which always leads to poor results when compared to actual screenshots.

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#189 Deathlessness
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[QUOTE="Disturbed123"]Forza what? *SLAP SLAP* GT5 is your DADDY! jakehouston88

:lol:. Forza What, Forza Who Cares?

Hold on. Still sad? Come on, the two latest Forza games outscoring the two latest Gran Turismo games is old news, buddy...
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#190 rybe1025
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I still have not been able to see the videos. How good was GT5 damage for example were they flipping cars like Forza is able to do with all of theirs?
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#191 shaggygrosser
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it's going to look bad for GT if Turn 10 can get THREE AAA Forza games out before GT5.