GT5 might not have changable wheels for standard cars.

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#51 kussese
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[QUOTE="JohnF111"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

The game itself may not be a disappointment, but those standard cars sure are. No interiors AND no wheel options? What next, no colour changing and no performance modifying? What exactly was the point of including these things anyways? Because FM3 had 500+ cars?

Androvinus

You're confusing Interior view with Cockpit view... All cars have interior view, but only premiums have interior view replaced with cockpit view which is the high resolution highly detailed one which also covers floor, doors and back seats, standard cars get a basic dashboard view probably gearstick and pedals but not much more.

WOW thats a relief. I'm no longer worried about GT5

Standard cars don't have interior views. The website says so (3rd update down).I haven't read ANYTHING saying that they have less-detailed interior views.

If I'm wrong, that's cool, but provide a link.

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#52 SilverChimera
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Damn, not the wheels!
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#53 Fried_Shrimp
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If true then I predict a low score.
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#54 general_KDI
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There's no way the "Best game of E3" could be a flop. It would just discredit the reviewer.

Imagine : "Oh, you gave that game a 6.0? but, 3 monts ago you said it was the BEST OF E3. You're stupid."

If they do give less than 8.5, I'm out and I will never come back again.

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#55 pimpog
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I have changed wheels in old gt4 so now I can not on gt5 uh yeah right lol where is this bs coming from ??

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#56 deactivated-5e9044657a310
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Cancelling preorder because I can't change the rims of my wheels!!
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#57 djsifer01
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I only care about changing the wheels on premium cars.
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#58 Magik85
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You're confusing Interior view with Cockpit view... All cars have interior view, but only premiums have interior view replaced with cockpit view which is the high resolution highly detailed one which also covers floor, doors and back seats, standard cars get a basic dashboard view probably gearstick and pedals but not much more.JohnF111
Nope...standard cars dont have any kind of dashboard view at all.
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#59 waltefmoney
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You're confusing Interior view with Cockpit view... All cars have interior view, but only premiums have interior view replaced with cockpit view which is the high resolution highly detailed one which also covers floor, doors and back seats, standard cars get a basic dashboard view probably gearstick and pedals but not much more.

JohnF111

Uhm, no. You won't be able to see any kind of dashboard on the standard cars.

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#60 waltefmoney
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I have changed wheels in old gt4 so now I can not on gt5 uh yeah right lol where is this bs coming from ??

pimpog

The menu of the game.

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#61 bleehum
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

The game itself may not be a disappointment, but those standard cars sure are. No interiors AND no wheel options? What next, no colour changing and no performance modifying? What exactly was the point of including these things anyways? Because FM3 had 500+ cars?

JohnF111

You're confusing Interior view with Cockpit view... All cars have interior view, but only premiums have interior view replaced with cockpit view which is the high resolution highly detailed one which also covers floor, doors and back seats, standard cars get a basic dashboard view probably gearstick and pedals but not much more.

Nope, standards don't have interior view.
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#62 Peiner09
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Hey, Everyone. Stop argueing about wheels. I just played prolouge and it couldn't find me any online players. Chill out, go race, get some practice, notice how you never, ever see a rim while driving. I came from forza, and the crap you gt5 guys are **** about it stupid.

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#63 Peiner09
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Question, does anyone fast ever use a cockpit view?

I don't see the point. in real life you use depth perception to ingore the cockpit anyways. Seems to block my vision/distract me in a game. hood/roof/bumperview ftw.

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#64 bleehum
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Question, does anyone fast ever use a cockpit view?

I don't see the point. in real life you use depth perception to ingore the cockpit anyways. Seems to block my vision/distract me in a game. hood/roof/bumperview ftw.

Peiner09
I always use the bumper cam.
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#65 xYamatox
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This is a big deal for big racing fans. Standard cars already don't have interior views, and they look pretty much like the cars from GT4. If they don't have changable wheels, who knows what else standard cars don't have?? Theres 800 standard cars and 200 premium ones, to be honest I wish there wouldn't even be standard cars because you can't do much with them and they don't look good at all.

joshrocks2245

Please tell me this is a joke post....are people seriously this upset for MORE content...? 200 cars is already a massive number, but people want to nit-pick because there are essentially 800 bonus cars the devs made for essentially free. Seriously, the devs try their best to give players as many features/cars a possible, and people spit in their faces with having MORE options...it's disgusting.

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#66 locopatho
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[QUOTE="joshrocks2245"]

This is a big deal for big racing fans. Standard cars already don't have interior views, and they look pretty much like the cars from GT4. If they don't have changable wheels, who knows what else standard cars don't have?? Theres 800 standard cars and 200 premium ones, to be honest I wish there wouldn't even be standard cars because you can't do much with them and they don't look good at all.

xYamatox

Please tell me this is a joke post....are people seriously this upset for MORE content...? 200 cars is already a massive number, but people want to nit-pick because there are essentially 800 bonus cars the devs made for essentially free. Seriously, the devs try their best to give players as many features/cars a possible, and people spit in their faces with having MORE options...it's disgusting.

Well if you don't even have options as basic as choosing the tires they are pretty bad aren't they? Hopefully this is all a silly rumour.
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#68 razgriz_101
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rims are something i never bothered about, as long as i can mod the meat and bones of the car itself then thats fine.

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#69 Elann2008
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First they complain that the PS3 doesn't allow them to do all they wanted to do with GT5, but somehow that translates to not being able to change wheels on standard cars? Man...give me a break..
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#70 deactivated-5e9044657a310
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Question, does anyone fast ever use a cockpit view?

I don't see the point. in real life you use depth perception to ingore the cockpit anyways. Seems to block my vision/distract me in a game. hood/roof/bumperview ftw.

Peiner09
It works pretty well in NFS: Shift. I used the cockpit view exclusively for months. Now I generally use Hood Cam
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#71 icyseanfitz
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Question, does anyone fast ever use a cockpit view?

I don't see the point. in real life you use depth perception to ingore the cockpit anyways. Seems to block my vision/distract me in a game. hood/roof/bumperview ftw.

Peiner09

i use it for every sim game i play whether it be racing flying etc. its the most immersive way to play a racing sim in that you have certain blind spots just like in a real car and your not just lying on top of the hood, to me the fact that gt5 is lacking any kind of interior view (couldnt care if it was a generic one ala gtpsp) for 80% of the cars (which basically means you will be using these cars at some point in the game) is nearly a deal breaker for me :( i cant believe they have the audacity to call it the real driving simulator when so many simulation options are missing

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#72 foxhound_fox
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FM3 had around 400 cars._Matt_

And now has over 500.

First, FM3 only has 400 cars that are no where near the premium cars in GT5. Also, consider the fact that GT5 has 3x (or more) content than FM3 with much more polishAnastasia1997

I love how for GT4 it was "quantity over quality" and now that the Standards aren't shaping up, its "quality over quantity."

And I'd hope there is more content and polish. The game has been in production for five years and is coming out a year after FM3.

200 cars is already a massive number, xYamatox

Not for a Gran Turismo game. GT4 had over 700 cars... all quite advanced in terms of what kind of hardware they were running on. Hell, at one point I argued that they looked better than FM2's car models. If PD could put 700+ (I think its 732) cars in GT4 after three years of development, then why not the same amount or more in GT5 after 5 years of development?

Even GT3 (basically a PS2 launch title) had close to 200 and was only in production for a couple years. If 200 is all they can pull out of 5 years of development... they are definitely losing their edge. Is the amount of detail they want to put in too great? Why couldn't they have just balanced out the amount of detail over the entire lineup of cars? Why did only 200 have to be "perfect" while the other 800 be basically upgraded GT4 models?

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#73 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="pimpog"]

I have changed wheels in old gt4 so now I can not on gt5 uh yeah right lol where is this bs coming from ??

waltefmoney

The menu of the game.

You can change wheels but not rims.
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#74 icyseanfitz
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[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="pimpog"]

I have changed wheels in old gt4 so now I can not on gt5 uh yeah right lol where is this bs coming from ??

Chutebox

The menu of the game.

You can change wheels but not rims.

which begs the question why the hell not?

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#75 hexashadow13
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

The menu of the game.

icyseanfitz

You can change wheels but not rims.

which begs the question why the hell not?

Cause they don't matter?
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#76 waltefmoney
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[QUOTE="icyseanfitz"]

which begs the question why the hell not?

hexashadow13

Cause they don't matter?

Then why did they include the option with the premium cars?

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#77 hexashadow13
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[QUOTE="hexashadow13"][QUOTE="icyseanfitz"]

which begs the question why the hell not?

waltefmoney

Cause they don't matter?

Then why did they include the option with the premium cars?

Cause they felt like it? I love what the haters have to use for ammo. 2D Trees that you probably won't even notice, Changeable rims that are only visual, etc.
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#80 waltefmoney
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Cause they felt like it? I love what the haters have to use for ammo. 2D Trees that you probably won't even notice, Changeable rims that are only visual, etc.hexashadow13

Well, this is the racing sim that's been in development for almost six years, its box says "the real driving simulator", and is coming from a developer that prides itself on attention to details.

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#81 icyseanfitz
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you know what i love about some of these people is that you could literally rebadge gt4 as gt5 put it in hd and they would buy it out of blind brand loyalty

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#82 musicalmac  Moderator
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Now you can all complain about GT5's wheels in the sticky.