GT5 physics = EPIC FAIL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVTJfzk8_7Q

is better damage... and physics o.0

FanaFall

The video I linked definitely doesn't contradict my claim, unless you're blind and can't see the white barrier which is launched into the air. Simple physics is spinning something? I never said it was completely realistic,but it definitely portrays what would happen to the barriers in that situation, of course if they don't weigh too much. And really, the funny thing is, they're not even falling to the ground that slow, if slow at all.

bleehum

I don't think your synapses are firing dude. The fact that that the plastic barrier in the youtube video has "hang time" doesn't change the fact that it falls to the ground at a believable speed.The GT3 video however shows the barriers falling at the rate of feathers which isn't realistic at all.

I never said "physics is spinning something"... do you know what a force vector is? The point is, hitting barriers like that would cause them to spin away.... not float up into the air slowly, with no acceleration like feathers...

"of course they don't weight too much" ............................................................................... can't tell if serious.......... have you taken a physics class before?

You done yet?

btw i love the DC from the ps3 fanboys. is it really that hard for them to admit something so obvious? its pretty clear the physics and damage suck SO FAR, how on earth can they even debate that after watching that video

Decrate

Ha yep.

The video btw was pretty funny

Whats wrong with that gif? When you roll over your car and you can't move, you move your thumbstick left or right too get the car back on its wheels :?.

-platy-

[QUOTE="bleehum"]

The video I linked definitely doesn't contradict my claim, unless you're blind and can't see the white barrier which is launched into the air. Simple physics is spinning something? I never said it was completely realistic,but it definitely portrays what would happen to the barriers in that situation, of course if they don't weigh too much. And really, the funny thing is, they're not even falling to the ground that slow, if slow at all.

SquatsAreAwesom

I don't think your synapses are firing dude. The fact that that the plastic barrier in the video has "hang time" doesn't change the fact that it falls to the ground at a believable speed.The GT3 video shows them falling at the rate of feathers which isn't realistic at all.

I never said "physics is spinning something"... do you know what a force vector is? The point is, hitting barriers like that would cause them to spin away.... not float up into the air slowly, with no acceleration like feathers...

"of course IF they don't weight too much" ............................................................................... can't tell if serious.......... have you taken a physics class before?

You done yet?

Yes, I have taken physics, and I got an A in it. Happy now?

Oh, and, way to omit a word from my post (bolded.) (the word "if" if you can't find it yourself, which I wouldn't doubt)

Read again: "And really, the funny thing is, they're not even falling to the ground that slow, if slow at all."

"I never said "physics is spinning something"" Reading comprehension will take you a long way, you misread that, but I'll clarify, anyway. In response to you saying I added my "own spin" to it, I said, "simple physics is spinning something?" Meaning, what I said about the barriers is simple physics. This is considered spin?

Lastly, If you seriously think the barriers in the GT FIVE video are falling at the rate feathers do, you need serious help.

People who took physics I and thinks that they know physics is funny...

LOL! GT5 looks TERRIBLE!

[QUOTE="-platy-"]

Whats wrong with that gif? When you roll over your car and you can't move, you move your thumbstick left or right too get the car back on its wheels :?.

Revolution316

Oh ok you so you want to just sit there till the race is done...well have fun with that!

[QUOTE="Revolution316"]

[QUOTE="-platy-"]

Whats wrong with that gif? When you roll over your car and you can't move, you move your thumbstick left or right too get the car back on its wheels :?.

-platy-

Oh ok you so you want to just sit there till the race is done...well have fun with that!

[QUOTE="Revolution316"]

[QUOTE="-platy-"]

Whats wrong with that gif? When you roll over your car and you can't move, you move your thumbstick left or right too get the car back on its wheels :?.

-platy-

Oh ok you so you want to just sit there till the race is done...well have fun with that!

GIF

Whats wrong with that gif? When you roll over your car and you can't move, you move your thumbstick left or right too get the car back on its wheels :?.

-platy-

Yes, I have taken physics, and I got an A in it. Happy now?

Oh, and, way to omit a word from my post (bolded.) (the word "if" if you can't find it yourself, which I wouldn't doubt)

bleehum

Read again: "And really, the funny thing is, they're not even falling to the ground that slow, if slow at all."

"I never said "physics is spinning something"" Reading comprehension will take you a long way, you misread that, but I'll clarify, anyway. In response to you saying I added my "own spin" to it, I said, "simple physics is spinning something?" Meaning, what I said about the barriers is simple physics. This is considered spin?

Lastly, If you seriously think the barriers in the GT FIVE video are falling at the rate feathers do, you need serious help.

[QUOTE="-platy-"]

[QUOTE="Revolution316"]ya well this isnt GTA4.

Androvinus

Oh ok you so you want to just sit there till the race is done...well have fun with that!

So you want to have that rewind feature online? :lol:

looks like garbage, and still dont have a release date, what a joke, forza 3 is the definitive racer anyway.

PrimusGears

[QUOTE="bleehum"]

Yes, I have taken physics, and I got an A in it. Happy now?

Oh, and, way to omit a word from my post (bolded.) (the word "if" if you can't find it yourself, which I wouldn't doubt)

SquatsAreAwesom

The if doesn't change anything. Since it went over your head... weight does not effect the rate at which objects fall to the ground ;)

Enjoy.

[QUOTE="Androvinus"][QUOTE="-platy-"]

Oh ok you so you want to just sit there till the race is done...well have fun with that!

-platy-

So you want to have that rewind feature online? :lol:

I also don't know why people are calling GT5 an ugly game i have the FM3 demo and GT5p, and from what i have seen graphically gt>fm

[QUOTE="bleehum"]

Yes, I have taken physics, and I got an A in it. Happy now?

Oh, and, way to omit a word from my post (bolded.) (the word "if" if you can't find it yourself, which I wouldn't doubt)

SquatsAreAwesom

cough, air resistance... you suck at physics too.

The graphics are nice and the framerate was very smooth, just a little more realism to the crashes and the game would be perfect.

Your entire paragraph is entirely incoherent. It was an exaggeration chief... way at pulling at straws .SquatsAreAwesom

[QUOTE="SquatsAreAwesom"]

[QUOTE="bleehum"]

Yes, I have taken physics, and I got an A in it. Happy now?

Oh, and, way to omit a word from my post (bolded.) (the word "if" if you can't find it yourself, which I wouldn't doubt)

FanaFall

cough, air resistance... you suck at physics too.

THANK YOU, someone actually understands.

LOL......... Not to mention the physics on the siding things is HILARIOUS! Looks like Forza 3 is going to beat out GT3 if this is any indication.SquatsAreAwesom

ure right, forza 3 will beat GT3, but not gt5:P

no honestly, both games are good. They got their ups and downs.

no honestly, both games are good.Ribnarak

[QUOTE="Ribnarak"]

[QUOTE="SquatsAreAwesom"]no honestly, both games are good.nervmeister

big deall, one has better physics (and this isnt forsure) or one has better graphics.

int he end, im happy racing (gt5 or f3) is coming to the NEXT GEN:P

big deall, one has better physics (and this isnt forsure) or one has better graphics.

int he end, im happy racing (gt5 or f3) is coming to the NEXT GEN:P

Ribnarak

I would most def buy Forza if I had a 360, but I don't. :(

The physics have always been off in GT5P…The SPEC III update made them slightly better but destroyed any time/set-up you made in the game..Poly better not pull that crap again..

I hope they correct them in GT5 and make no updates.

I don't think this video was made to show off the damage physics, but to show that there will be damage in the game. Expect the physics to be much more refined by the time this game releases (hopefully).

Whats wrong with that gif? When you roll over your car and you can't move, you move your thumbstick left or right too get the car back on its wheels. :?

-platy-

Well it's completely unrealistic...

Forza 3 is such an arcade racer.

This is true for something that is simply free falling. When the object is moving horizontally while falling, no.bleehum

[QUOTE="SquatsAreAwesom"] Your entire paragraph is entirely incoherent. It was an exaggeration chief... way at pulling at straws .bleehum

Incorrect. Look up force vectors.
bleehum

Stop talking physics, it's not like you know any better....

Incorrect this or that or w.e you didn't even know the affect of air resistance...

the car act like a bumper car, and PD call it a simulator? even PGR is more realistic...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOd6o9Fv8TM&feature=player_embedded

Nisim19

[QUOTE="bleehum"]

Incorrect. Look up force vectors.
FanaFall

Stop talking physics, it's not like you know any better....

Incorrect this or that or w.e you didn't even know the affect of air resistance...

Even so, air resistence would not account for the unrealistic deceleration found in the falling barriers.

Thanks for trying, come again.

GT5's physics is cracked out... I'm sorry -- it's just a game.

Looks fine to me.:?

[QUOTE="FanaFall"]

[QUOTE="bleehum"]

Incorrect. Look up force vectors.
SquatsAreAwesom

Stop talking physics, it's not like you know any better....

Incorrect this or that or w.e you didn't even know the affect of air resistance...

Even so, air resistence would not account for the unrealistic deceleration found in the falling barriers.

Thanks for trying, come again.

GT5's physics is cracked out... I'm sorry -- it's just a game.

sigh, simply put air resistance creates drag.. it's pretty similar to friction force.. which is coefficient of friction times the normal force.. and normal force of course equals to the weight of an object...

Aside assuming air resistance to be like drag.. object's acceleration would drop when air resistance = to the weight of the object...

go learn physics properly.

oh btw you can make a case supporting the slow drop of the barriers... first I would assume that the barrier is created from light material to not damage the car on impact.. and according looking at the cross sectional area and assuming it's low weight.. well that's plenty enough to argue for it..

hmm I wonder if air flow would also have affect on it... I'm just taking fluid mechanics so I'm not sure on that yet...

[QUOTE="SquatsAreAwesom"]

[QUOTE="FanaFall"]

Stop talking physics, it's not like you know any better....

Incorrect this or that or w.e you didn't even know the affect of air resistance...

FanaFall

Even so, air resistence would not account for the unrealistic deceleration found in the falling barriers.

Thanks for trying, come again.

GT5's physics is cracked out... I'm sorry -- it's just a game.

sigh, air resistance creates drag.. it's pretty similar to friction force.. which is coefficient of friction times the normal force.. and normal force of course equals to the weight of an object...

Aside assuming air resistance to be like drag.. object's acceleration would drop when air resistance = to the weight of the object...

go learn physics properly.

oh btw you can make a case supporting the slow drop of the barriers... first I would assume that the barrier is created form light material to not damage the car on impact.. and according looking at the cross sectional area and assuming it's low weight.. well that's plenty to argue for it..

hmm I wonder if air flow would also have affect on it... I'm just taking fluid mechanics so I'm not sure on that yet...

[QUOTE="FanaFall"]

[QUOTE="SquatsAreAwesom"] Eh, I do know about air resistance, and that doesn't fit into the argument at all buddy. Air resistance isn't bound to weight, and as such your logic is flawed, or you simply can't keep up.

Even so, air resistence would not account for the unrealistic deceleration found in the falling barriers.

Thanks for trying, come again.

GT5's physics is cracked out... I'm sorry -- it's just a game.

SquatsAreAwesom

sigh, air resistance creates drag.. it's pretty similar to friction force.. which is coefficient of friction times the normal force.. and normal force of course equals to the weight of an object...

Aside assuming air resistance to be like drag.. object's acceleration would drop when air resistance = to the weight of the object...

go learn physics properly.

oh btw you can make a case supporting the slow drop of the barriers... first I would assume that the barrier is created form light material to not damage the car on impact.. and according looking at the cross sectional area and assuming it's low weight.. well that's plenty to argue for it..

hmm I wonder if air flow would also have affect on it... I'm just taking fluid mechanics so I'm not sure on that yet...

Sigh,

"As learned above, the amount ofairresistancedepends upon the speed of the object. A falling object will continue to accelerate to higher speeds until they encounter an amount ofairresistancewhich is equal to theirweight. Since the 150-kg skydiver weighs more (experiences a greater force of gravity), it will accelerate to higher speeds before reaching a terminal velocity. Thus, more massive objects fall faster than less massive objects because they are acted upon by a larger force of gravity; for this reason, they accelerate to higher speeds until theairresistanceforce equals the gravity force."

I guess you didn't get that far in physics yet... friction you will learn that eventually...

Normal Force = Weight, Force friction = coefficent of friction * normal force(weight)

since most physics class assume air resistance to be just drag even though there are numerous other factors including weight.. and using above equations you know weight affects air resistance.

you welcome, now you are bit ahead of your class.

And I said you CAN make an argument for it ASSUMING numerous things.. I never said GT5 follows all the law of physics.. Never once in my post I ever claimed it was right physics I just said you CAN make arguments... besides I was just pointing out to everyone how bad you are in physics.. and how I find it funny that you point out other's mistake when you are wrong yourself. And you just assumed I'm supporting GT5...

But ignorance/lack of education is a bliss, and your doing a great job on that..

in the end ME>YOU

[QUOTE="FanaFall"]

[QUOTE="SquatsAreAwesom"] A is sort of like B, which spells Banana, which tastes pretty good, and thats why monkeys eat it, and ..... Sorry, but you sir fail. GT5's failure is so bad, that you are now making up your own inferences on physics to prove a point. Bravo. Find me a video of any plastic barrier that falls at even close to that speed, and I will glady admit to ownage. Until then... you're doing it wrong.SquatsAreAwesom

Sigh,

"As learned above, the amount ofairresistancedepends upon the speed of the object. A falling object will continue to accelerate to higher speeds until they encounter an amount ofairresistancewhich is equal to theirweight. Since the 150-kg skydiver weighs more (experiences a greater force of gravity), it will accelerate to higher speeds before reaching a terminal velocity. Thus, more massive objects fall faster than less massive objects because they are acted upon by a larger force of gravity; for this reason, they accelerate to higher speeds until theairresistanceforce equals the gravity force."

I guess you didn't get that far in physics yet... friction you will learn that eventually...

And I said you CAN make an argument for it.. I never said GT5 follows all the law of physics.. Never once in my post I ever claimed it was right physics I just said you CAN make arguments... besides I was just pointing out to everyone how bad you are in physics.. and how I find it funny that you point out other's mistake when you are wrong yourself.

Sir, my original argument was for you to stop talking physics. And I proved that weight does affect rate an object drops. That was my original argument and it still is.. which means? I'm not off tangent from my original argument! Mind boggling?

I'm repeating but I just put a note at the end you can make arguments for it.. I never said the physics was correct..

it's you that's assuming things...

once again ignorance is a bliss, and your doing a great job.

wait in case you forgot.. my original argument was that weight does affect the rate of drop, and I just proved it did.. so I don't see me going off tangent anywhere.

it hurts to be wrong eh?

lol and how does it feel that this "tool" is > you.

Driving Simulator - consists of a steering wheel, cockpit, and feel of the car with the wheel. GT5P does this better than any other racing game out.

Physics - consist of more than fender benders.

I think it's absolutely funny more people don't understand what GT5P is made for which is a driving simulation using a Force Feedback wheel, not damage.

Not as bad compared to this from the Forza 3 demo:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUxVNENan6g

To why people think Forza 3's physics are gold still baffles me a lot.

Driving Simulator - consists of a steering wheel, cockpit, and feel of the car with the wheel. GT5P does this better than any other racing game out.

Physics - consist of more than fender benders.

I think it's absolutely funny more people don't understand what GT5P is made for which is a driving simulation using a Force Feedback wheel, not damage.

360hammer

I disagree..

The tuning is completely unrealistic in terms of what is necessary to adjust the balance of the car in addition the "camera bob" is not driven by physics but generic code that activates when the brakes or accelerator is applied.

GT5P is far from the most accurate out there and would suggest trying a proper SIM (Rfactor/LFS/GTR/iracing) before making the claim that "GT5P does this better than any other racing game out."

Not as bad compared to this from the Forza 3 demo:


To why people think Forza 3's physics are gold still baffles me a lot.

double_heist

*sigh*

Forza 3 allows you to rock the car from side to side and back on to its wheels after the car has flipped over onto its roof so posting gifs of that fact in action isn't going to make a good argument against Forza's physics...

Not as bad compared to this from the Forza 3 demo:



To why people think Forza 3's physics are gold still baffles me a lot.

double_heist

I think the physics are great. What is everyone complaining about?? The graphics look great, the damage is good, and the game looks like lots of fun to play. The game looks perfect to me.