GT5: Prologue runs at 1080p, 60fps, with car damage... holy ****!

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#51 Thinker_145
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[QUOTE="Thinker_145"][QUOTE="mmirza23"][QUOTE="milsvaard"]Wait a sec. It only features 40 cars and 5 tracks? What kind of lame s$%& is that? mmirza23
gt5 prologue is a demo to the full game GT5 which is due out late 2008

Offtopic.I think you are really unnecessarily killing your frames by playing at that ridiculous resolution.I am sure your PC cant max out most games on that resolution with 40+fps.I mean seriously what's the point in playing in that resolution.Why dont you just use your 1080p TV with your PC.That'll be the right option.And i am sure you wont see much of a difference.

i know i dont play most games at that resolution, its just something nice to have, i play most of my games at 16x12 or 19x12, beyond that my rig starts to get pushed in some games.

Is it a CRT monitor or else arent you sacrificing alot by not playing in the native res?
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#52 PBSnipes
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How about the gameplay? Graphics are nice but I can't help but feel that all this focus on graphics and a monster car list is going to leave the gameplay lacking.
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#53 Spindoc_SEI
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Hopefully "GT5: The real" games comes out before Forza 3.7thSIN

Gran Turismo is a better game, both in terms of gameplay and sales. I own both Forza Motosport titles.

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#54 RotaryRX7
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[QUOTE="mattyomo99"]

http://n4g.com/gaming/News-91647.aspx

it will also feature 40 cars, 5 maps, and full online play
imagine GT5 when the full game comes out... damn

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It also has 4d graphics and real time gear shifting. It should be awesome.

The 4th dimension is time, so "4D graphics" makes no sense, therefore you just pwned yourself.

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#55 RotaryRX7
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How about the gameplay? Graphics are nice but I can't help but feel that all this focus on graphics and a monster car list is going to leave the gameplay lacking. PBSnipes

Gran Turismo. That is what we are discussing here. A game with a reputation for one of the best driving simulators around. Gameplay is not an issue to worry about :)

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#56 PBSnipes
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[QUOTE="PBSnipes"]How about the gameplay? Graphics are nice but I can't help but feel that all this focus on graphics and a monster car list is going to leave the gameplay lacking. RotaryRX7

Gran Turismo. That is what we are discussing here. A game with a reputation for one of the best driving simulators around. Gameplay is not an issue to worry about :)

Compared to Forza gameplay could very well be an issue. Forza 1 was a significantly better than GT4, and Forza 2 was a significant improvement over Forza 1. So its going to take a major improvement for GT5's gameplay to outclass Forza 2's.
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#57 toxicmog
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[QUOTE="milsvaard"]Wait a sec. It only features 40 cars and 5 tracks? What kind of lame s$%& is that? mattyomo99

its not gt5
its prolauge... its better then a demo but still a demo

so you pay for a demo.

why dont they just work on the full game and bring it out...

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#58 PBSnipes
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[QUOTE="mattyomo99"]

[QUOTE="milsvaard"]Wait a sec. It only features 40 cars and 5 tracks? What kind of lame s$%& is that? toxicmog

its not gt5
its prolauge... its better then a demo but still a demo

so you pay for a demo.

why dont they just work on the full game and bring it out...

They are, its just it takes minimal effort to slap together a demo out of the cars and tracks they have already finished, and its a good way to boost the bottom line.
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#59 Always-Honest
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don't worry, you're not getting it.
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#60 Number_1_Gamer
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[QUOTE="toxicmog"][QUOTE="mattyomo99"]

[QUOTE="milsvaard"]Wait a sec. It only features 40 cars and 5 tracks? What kind of lame s$%& is that? PBSnipes

its not gt5
its prolauge... its better then a demo but still a demo

so you pay for a demo.

why dont they just work on the full game and bring it out...

They are, its just it takes minimal effort to slap together a demo out of the cars and tracks they have already finished, and its a good way to boost the bottom line.

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#61 Spindoc_SEI
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[QUOTE="RotaryRX7"]

[QUOTE="PBSnipes"]How about the gameplay? Graphics are nice but I can't help but feel that all this focus on graphics and a monster car list is going to leave the gameplay lacking. PBSnipes

Gran Turismo. That is what we are discussing here. A game with a reputation for one of the best driving simulators around. Gameplay is not an issue to worry about :)

Compared to Forza gameplay could very well be an issue. Forza 1 was a significantly better than GT4, and Forza 2 was a significant improvement over Forza 1. So its going to take a major improvement for GT5's gameplay to outclass Forza 2's.

In your opinion.

In my opinion, GT4 has better gameplay than Forza 1 or Forza 2. Forza 2 was only a slight improvement over the first.

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[QUOTE="milsvaard"]Wait a sec. It only features 40 cars and 5 tracks? What kind of lame s$%& is that? mmirza23
gt5 prologue is a demo to the full game GT5 which is due out late 2008

your paying for a demo? thats ridiculous...yeah sonys gonna send MS to the grave alright.....

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#63 PBSnipes
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[QUOTE="PBSnipes"][QUOTE="RotaryRX7"]

[QUOTE="PBSnipes"]How about the gameplay? Graphics are nice but I can't help but feel that all this focus on graphics and a monster car list is going to leave the gameplay lacking. Spindoc_SEI

Gran Turismo. That is what we are discussing here. A game with a reputation for one of the best driving simulators around. Gameplay is not an issue to worry about :)

Compared to Forza gameplay could very well be an issue. Forza 1 was a significantly better than GT4, and Forza 2 was a significant improvement over Forza 1. So its going to take a major improvement for GT5's gameplay to outclass Forza 2's.

In your opinion.

In my opinion, GT4 has better gameplay than Forza 1 or Forza 2. Forza 2 was only a slight improvement over the first.

Lets look at this logically. Standards for games are raised over time, meaning a game that scored a 10/10 5 years ago may only score a 7/10 or 8/10 today. Also the PS2 and Xbox were pretty similar consoles, meaning games would generally recieve the same score regardless of what platform. So if a title scored an 8 on the Xbox, the game would likely score an 8 on the PS2, and vice versa. So we can then look at the GT4 review (Feb. 22nd 2005), where it recieved an 8.9/10 and the Forza review (May 3rd 2005), where it recieved a 9.2/10. Therefore because of both the score and the fact Forza was released later, logically Forza is a better game than GT4.

We can then compare the Forza review to that of Forza 2 (May 29 2007), where it recievd a 9.2 out of 10. Because of the rising standars of gaming, Forza 2's 9.2> Forza 1's 9.2, meaning Forza 2 is a better game. And because Forza 2> Forza 1, Forza 2 must be significantly better than GT4. Not only is that my opinion, but it is backed up by reviews.

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#64 mattyomo99
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[QUOTE="mattyomo99"]

[QUOTE="milsvaard"]Wait a sec. It only features 40 cars and 5 tracks? What kind of lame s$%& is that? toxicmog

its not gt5
its prolauge... its better then a demo but still a demo

so you pay for a demo.

why dont they just work on the full game and bring it out...

i think its 30 on PSN and 40 retail, which is fine for me. If you are a GT fan im sure this will be worth the 30 or 40 bucks

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where the hell in the article does it say car damage?!?! point that out please...
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#66 lowe0
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They are, its just it takes minimal effort to slap together a demo out of the cars and tracks they have already finished, and its a good way to boost the bottom line.
PBSnipes
That's usually called a "cash-in". Sony's ripping you off. If they said "Buy this now for $30, and for another $30 later on, you can upgrade to the full game", then that would be fair.
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Wait a sec. It only features 40 cars and 5 tracks? What kind of lame s$%& is that? milsvaard

Isn't it a FREE demo of GT5?

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[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"][QUOTE="marklarmer"][QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"][QUOTE="marklarmer"][QUOTE="DarkCloud79"]

[QUOTE="Number_1_Gamer"]Why would anyone pay money for a demo? Why don't they just give it away for free. Why would you pay money for a demo, then pay money again for the actual game? I don't get it.marklarmer

Why would anyone pay money for online gaming, or themes, or to change they'r gamertag... Oh wait.:|

lol cows going off topic on their own thread.

:| You guys don't realize or just haven't been around to know that Prologue is more than a demo, its the closest representaion of the final product and its great fan service. If you'd like dis-agree with that then just ask the people who've bought it in the past. The GT Prologue series sells more than most games.

if this means anything GT: HD was the free demo.

so you're basically paying for the same game twice then.

no?

Did you read the TCs post?
what was it, 5 tracks 40 cars, and damage modelling.
GT5 will have over 30 tracks, 300 cars and more extensive damage modelling, plus an arcade mode, and more modes. Its a complete game(i think its coming out in may so thats a long wait, a lot of improvements etc).

Your not paying for the same game twice.

why pay for prologue if those cars and tracks will be in GT5 and with 'more extensive damage modelling', cows have yet to answer the question. and they say MS milks their customers.

a) its called fan service.
b) you don't have to buy it
c) those who do buy it thoroughly enjoy it
d) check the sales, it sells more than most games and is sold at an affordable price.

If you don't think its worth it then don't buy it, but millions of people last gen thought it was a great purchase. Plus its online, and GT has a great community.

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#69 ball_of_air
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they said the same thing about motorstorm :|.club-sandwich

Link?

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#70 lowe0
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[QUOTE="milsvaard"]Wait a sec. It only features 40 cars and 5 tracks? What kind of lame s$%& is that? Blinblingthing

Isn't it a FREE demo of GT5?

Please don't use Sony and free in the same sentence. Someone could die laughing.
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#71 PBSnipes
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[QUOTE="Blinblingthing"]

[QUOTE="milsvaard"]Wait a sec. It only features 40 cars and 5 tracks? What kind of lame s$%& is that? lowe0

Isn't it a FREE demo of GT5?

Please don't use Sony and free in the same sentence. Someone could die laughing.

PSN says hi.
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[QUOTE="Spindoc_SEI"][QUOTE="PBSnipes"][QUOTE="RotaryRX7"]

[QUOTE="PBSnipes"]How about the gameplay? Graphics are nice but I can't help but feel that all this focus on graphics and a monster car list is going to leave the gameplay lacking. PBSnipes

Gran Turismo. That is what we are discussing here. A game with a reputation for one of the best driving simulators around. Gameplay is not an issue to worry about :)

Compared to Forza gameplay could very well be an issue. Forza 1 was a significantly better than GT4, and Forza 2 was a significant improvement over Forza 1. So its going to take a major improvement for GT5's gameplay to outclass Forza 2's.

In your opinion.

In my opinion, GT4 has better gameplay than Forza 1 or Forza 2. Forza 2 was only a slight improvement over the first.

Lets look at this logically. Standards for games are raised over time, meaning a game that scored a 10/10 5 years ago may only score a 7/10 or 8/10 today. Also the PS2 and Xbox were pretty similar consoles, meaning games would generally recieve the same score regardless of what platform. So if a title scored an 8 on the Xbox, the game would likely score an 8 on the PS2, and vice versa. So we can then look at the GT4 review (Feb. 22nd 2005), where it recieved an 8.9/10 and the Forza review (May 3rd 2005), where it recieved a 9.2/10. Therefore because of both the score and the fact Forza was released later, logically Forza is a better game than GT4.

We can then compare the Forza review to that of Forza 2 (May 29 2007), where it recievd a 9.2 out of 10. Because of the rising standars of gaming, Forza 2's 9.2> Forza 1's 9.2, meaning Forza 2 is a better game. And because Forza 2> Forza 1, Forza 2 must be significantly better than GT4. Not only is that my opinion, but it is backed up by reviews.

:| Thats not the way rankings work bub, for a game to get a high score it must have surpassed the standards of its time. I'm not saying an 9 wouldn't be a 8 or an 8 wouldn't be a 7 now. But the score they got was relative to that times standards, so if your going to compare GT3 9.4 to Forza 2 9.2. Then it still stands 9.4>9.2 regardless. Forza just wasn't as big of an acheivement as GT3 was. The score says it all, although i could care less about scores.

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#73 ringuzi
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[QUOTE="milsvaard"]Wait a sec. It only features 40 cars and 5 tracks? What kind of lame s$%& is that? mmirza23
gt5 prologue is a demo to the full game GT5 which is due out late 2008

last time i checked demos were free. saying gt5 is a demo means its a rip off since they charge you for it. saying its a full game means its a rip off because it lacks content. both ways its sony ripping you off. any way they should rate it as a full game in my opinion, and then rate the "full version"separatelyand give it a higher score.

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#74 NaturalDeezism
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Wow are you people ever satisfied?

Everyone bashed GT for not having damage. So they spend more time to add damage to it, and people still complain.

You ever think that they are releasing Prologue to see the reponse of the fans? Maybe the game could use a little touch up, is it that bad?

God forbid a developer actually wants to put out a product of high quality. I'm sure if Polyphony changed plans and released GT5 tomorrow all buggy, it would make you guys happy. Then you could say "teh powaz of teh cell!!!" and start bashing Sony, then proceed to praise Mass Effect.

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[QUOTE="mmirza23"][QUOTE="milsvaard"]Wait a sec. It only features 40 cars and 5 tracks? What kind of lame s$%& is that? ringuzi

gt5 prologue is a demo to the full game GT5 which is due out late 2008

last time i checked demos were free. saying gt5 is a demo means its a rip off since they charge you for it. saying its a full game means its a rip off because it lacks content. both ways its sony ripping you off. any way they should rate it as a full game in my opinion, and then rate the "full version"separatelyand give it a higher score.

GT: HD was the free demo what don't you get. Prologue versions have been out from the dawn of century for GT games, its simply fan service.

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[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="Blinblingthing"]

[QUOTE="milsvaard"]Wait a sec. It only features 40 cars and 5 tracks? What kind of lame s$%& is that? PBSnipes

Isn't it a FREE demo of GT5?

Please don't use Sony and free in the same sentence. Someone could die laughing.

PSN says hi.

Oh, wait until Home is out. They're going to "monetize" the hell out of that thing - EA's pay-for-cheat-codes are going to look as innocent as a 5-year-old's lemonade stand.
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[QUOTE="mmirza23"][QUOTE="milsvaard"]Wait a sec. It only features 40 cars and 5 tracks? What kind of lame s$%& is that? ringuzi

gt5 prologue is a demo to the full game GT5 which is due out late 2008

last time i checked demos were free. saying gt5 is a demo means its a rip off since they charge you for it. saying its a full game means its a rip off because it lacks content. both ways its sony ripping you off. any way they should rate it as a full game in my opinion, and then rate the "full version"separatelyand give it a higher score.

Or you could stop being a stickler for terminology and realize that Sony's not charging $60 for it. Prologue is supposed to give you an extended taste of the full GT5 game. It's neither a demo nor a full game.
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#78 PBSnipes
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:| Thats not the way rankings work bub, for a game to get a high score it must have surpassed the standards of its time. I'm not saying an 9 wouldn't be a 8 or an 8 wouldn't be a 7 now. But the score they got was relative to that times standards, so if your going to compare GT3 9.4 to Forza 2 9.2. Then it still stands 9.4>9.2 regardless. Forza just wasn't as big of an acheivement as GT3 was. The score says it all, although i could care less about scores.

Adrian_Cloud

Scores aren't about achievement, they're about how good a game is, champ. GT3's score is relative to the system it is on and the time it was released, its right in the review guidelines. This means that as a game released on the PS2 on July 9th 2001, GT3 was "worthy" of a 9.4. However GT4, a game that is clearly superior to GT3 (right from the GT4 review "The best driving model on the PS2"), scored an 8.9. Why? Because of changing standards.

Because of time and the technological improvement 360 games are held to a higher standard than PS2 games, a pretty basic concept. If we were to use PS2 standards for the 360 almost every game would score AAA or even AAAA. What this means is that a 9.2 on the 360 is greater than a 9.2 for the PS2, seeing as how the 360 has a major technological advantage over the PS2, as well as the fact we expect games to improve over time. Therefore, Forza 2 is a better game than GT4.

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#79 blacktorn
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But at the end of the day it's just gran turismo...*yawn*
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omg i cant wait for this to come out. when does it the US?
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http://n4g.com/gaming/News-91647.aspx

it will also feature 40 cars, 5 maps, and full online play
imagine GT5 when the full game comes out... damn

mattyomo99

But cows said damage wasnt needed... :shock:

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[QUOTE="mattyomo99"]

http://n4g.com/gaming/News-91647.aspx

it will also feature 40 cars, 5 maps, and full online play
imagine GT5 when the full game comes out... damn

Magical_Zebra

But cows said damage wasnt needed... :shock:

its not but its still ownage to the lems who cried out "bumper car simulator" so why not bring it up
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[QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"][QUOTE="mattyomo99"]

http://n4g.com/gaming/News-91647.aspx

it will also feature 40 cars, 5 maps, and full online play
imagine GT5 when the full game comes out... damn

river_rat3117

But cows said damage wasnt needed... :shock:

its not but its still ownage to the lems who cried out "bumper car simulator" so why not bring it up

My point is cows claimed that Forza 2's damage was "unrealistic" even though GT Prologue and past GT games had none. I just find it ironic that cows critisized something they say wasnt needed. Sorta like rumble...

P.S. Here is the thread with the damage control that cows spewed about damage not being needed and irrelevant. :shock: