GT5P vs. GRID... why the ...????

Why the heck can GRID have damage (that affects gameplay and done pretty well) and NOT GT5p????????????

I mean, given the fact that GT5P is just a demo, shouldn't they have been able to implement damage? I know GRID has less cars, but it is a FULL GAME so you can't argue that there is more substance to GT5p.

oh man, grid not only looks nicer but also has damage. awesome!

oh man, grid not only looks nicer but also has damage. awesome!

100Gamer

It seems that *some people* are avoiding this thread like the plague. It's funny how quickly all the GT5P hype died down after the 7.5 score was released.

oh man, grid not only looks nicer but also has damage. awesome!

100Gamer

[QUOTE="100Gamer"]

oh man, grid not only looks nicer but also has damage. awesome!

ermacness

His eyes.

[QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="100Gamer"]

oh man, grid not only looks nicer but also has damage. awesome!

-Wheels-

His eyes.

[QUOTE="-Wheels-"][QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="100Gamer"]

oh man, grid not only looks nicer but also has damage. awesome!

ermacness

His eyes.

I think his eyes are telling the truth. ;)

[QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="-Wheels-"][QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="100Gamer"]

oh man, grid not only looks nicer but also has damage. awesome!

septicvirus

His eyes.

I think his eyes are telling the truth. ;)

One reason why I cannot stand GT. And it sickens me how popular it is.Hellsing2o2

oh man, grid not only looks nicer but also has damage. awesome!

100Gamer

Great, you're back. Grid looks good, but not as good as gt5p and it will be getting damage in a few months.

News flash:

GT5P is having damage modeling added in a few months, and the final version of GT5 will also have damage. :)

News flash:

GT5P is having damage modeling added in a few months, and the final version of GT5 will also have damage. :)

RotaryRX7

News flash:

... now where have I heard unfulfilled promises by same dev again...

[QUOTE="-Wheels-"][QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="100Gamer"]

oh man, grid not only looks nicer but also has damage. awesome!

ermacness

His eyes.

dude, its clear that grid looks better. you're in denial

[QUOTE="100Gamer"]

oh man, grid not only looks nicer but also has damage. awesome!

Chutebox

Great, you're back. Grid looks good, but not as good as gt5p and it will be getting damage in a few months.

This.

[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="100Gamer"]

oh man, grid not only looks nicer but also has damage. awesome!

Ragnarok1051

Great, you're back. Grid looks good, but not as good as gt5p and it will be getting damage in a few months.

This.

:lol: So you paid $40 for an INCOMPLETE DEMO of a game??? :cry:

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="100Gamer"]

oh man, grid not only looks nicer but also has damage. awesome!

septicvirus

Great, you're back. Grid looks good, but not as good as gt5p and it will be getting damage in a few months.

This.

:lol: So you paid $40 for an INCOMPLETE DEMO of a game??? :cry:

Who said I bought the game? Care to generalize even more?

[QUOTE="septicvirus"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="100Gamer"]

oh man, grid not only looks nicer but also has damage. awesome!

Ragnarok1051

Great, you're back. Grid looks good, but not as good as gt5p and it will be getting damage in a few months.

This.

:lol: So you paid $40 for an INCOMPLETE DEMO of a game??? :cry:

Who said I bought the game? Care to generalize even more?

Good job at evading the point.

So ANYONE who bought GT5P, paid $40 for and INCOMPLETE DEMO of a game??? :cry: so sad.

Good job at evading the point.

So ANYONE who bought GT5P, paid $40 for and INCOMPLETE DEMO of a game??? :cry: so sad.

septicvirus

I'm glad you care about everyone because you seem to be the only who brings up this point in the thread.

Good job at evading the point.

So ANYONE who bought GT5P, paid $40 for and INCOMPLETE DEMO of a game??? :cry: so sad.

septicvirus

Tell us how you truly feel.

[QUOTE="septicvirus"]

Good job at evading the point.

So ANYONE who bought GT5P, paid $40 for and INCOMPLETE DEMO of a game??? :cry: so sad.

Ragnarok1051

I'm glad you care about everyone because you seem to be the only who brings up this point in the thread.

I guess I'm the only REAL gamer. :shock:

Why don't the rest of you casuals try exercising some CONSUMER POWER! Wow, if more developers could get away with this crap just think where the industry would go.

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="septicvirus"]

Good job at evading the point.

So ANYONE who bought GT5P, paid $40 for and INCOMPLETE DEMO of a game??? :cry: so sad.

septicvirus

I'm glad you care about everyone because you seem to be the only who brings up this point in the thread.

I guess I'm the only REAL gamer. :shock:

Why don't the rest of you casuals try exercising some CONSUMER POWER! Wow, if more developers could get away with this crap just think where the industry would go.

You know its been done before and *gasp* it didn't ruin the industry.

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="septicvirus"]

Good job at evading the point.

So ANYONE who bought GT5P, paid $40 for and INCOMPLETE DEMO of a game??? :cry: so sad.

septicvirus

I'm glad you care about everyone because you seem to be the only who brings up this point in the thread.

I guess I'm the only REAL gamer. :shock:

Why don't the rest of you casuals try exercising some CONSUMER POWER! Wow, if more developers could get away with this crap just think where the industry would go.

Oh please tell me how I can be a true gamer and demonstrate consumer power oh powerful one!

Maybe if I buy some defective consoles that would demonstrate....consumer...oh wait...nevermind.

imo, damage is overrated. the damage in grid and forza is not realistic at all. so why put it. GT 5 has better driving mechanics than any other game out. like Kazunori said "if it cant be done perfectly, why put it". the damage in GRID is a joke, at least Forza does a fine job, but it is still not realistic and GT series wont have it, until he's perfected it.

anyone can do damage, lots of driving games have damage, but imo, they look crap and unrealistic.

This is a tired argument. "Teh GEETEE FIVEZ!! TEH DAMAGZE!!! TEH DEMOEZ!!! :cry:"

Polyphony digital is probably the only dev that can get away with this crap. And I paid gladly for prologue. Lems am cry

imo, damage is overrated. the damage in grid and forza is not realistic at all. so why put it. GT 5 has better driving mechanics than any other game out. like Kazunori said "if it cant be done perfectly, why put it". the damage in GRID is a joke, at least Forza does a fine job, but it is still not realistic and GT series wont have it, until he's perfected it.

anyone can do damage, lots of driving games have damage, but imo, they look crap and unrealistic.

xxThyLordxx

100% Cow. good job. then when they implement damage, your opinion will change. then you will come up with a new reason why your not a blind follower.

[QUOTE="xxThyLordxx"]

imo, damage is overrated. the damage in grid and forza is not realistic at all. so why put it. GT 5 has better driving mechanics than any other game out. like Kazunori said "if it cant be done perfectly, why put it". the damage in GRID is a joke, at least Forza does a fine job, but it is still not realistic and GT series wont have it, until he's perfected it.

anyone can do damage, lots of driving games have damage, but imo, they look crap and unrealistic.

septicvirus

100% Cow. good job. then when they implement damage, your opinion will change. then you will come up with a new reason why your not a blind follower.

Yea, you shouldn't be saying that about anyone. Just because someone is critical and forms their own opinions doesn't mean they are a certain type of fanboy, like yourself.

Get over it.

[QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="-Wheels-"][QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="100Gamer"]

oh man, grid not only looks nicer but also has damage. awesome!

septicvirus

His eyes.

I think his eyes are telling the truth. ;)

Unless he's blind lol.

This is a tired argument. "Teh GEETEE FIVEZ!! TEH DAMAGZE!!! TEH DEMOEZ!!! :cry:"

Polyphony digital is probably the only dev that can get away with this crap. And I paid gladly for prologue. Lems am cry

f50p90

I think the argument might re-emerge after every racing game comes out that HAS damage. That is, until GT5 has it (or GT5P as some believe).

[QUOTE="f50p90"]

This is a tired argument. "Teh GEETEE FIVEZ!! TEH DAMAGZE!!! TEH DEMOEZ!!! :cry:"

Polyphony digital is probably the only dev that can get away with this crap. And I paid gladly for prologue. Lems am cry

septicvirus

I think the argument might re-emerge after every racing game comes out that HAS damage. That is, until GT5 has it (or GT5P as some believe).

honestly, I dont want GT to have damage, because it will change and destroy the driving mechanics, which will the defeat the purpose of "the real driving simulator"

[QUOTE="septicvirus"][QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="-Wheels-"][QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="100Gamer"]

oh man, grid not only looks nicer but also has damage. awesome!

ermacness

His eyes.

I think his eyes are telling the truth. ;)

gird with 16 x AA maxed out destroys gt5p

[QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="septicvirus"][QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="-Wheels-"][QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="100Gamer"]

oh man, grid not only looks nicer but also has damage. awesome!

imprezawrx500

His eyes.

I think his eyes are telling the truth. ;)

gird with 16 x AA maxed out destroys gt5p

Dont know what the hell that means but Ive played both and....

GT5P >>> GRID

[QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="septicvirus"][QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="-Wheels-"][QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="100Gamer"]

oh man, grid not only looks nicer but also has damage. awesome!

imprezawrx500

His eyes.

I think his eyes are telling the truth. ;)

gird with 16 x AA maxed out destroys gt5p

Please don't add PC into the mix. We already know the PC version would make your eyes bleed with awesome. ;)

This thread wasn't even about graphics. Why must Cows try to make everything about graphics? septicvirus

Actually 100gamer started it and I dont think he is a cow.

This thread wasn't even about graphics. Why must Cows try to make everything about graphics? septicvirus

Damage modeling is part of the graphics department :)

This thread wasn't even about graphics. Why must Cows try to make everything about graphics? septicvirus

One of your friends started it, trying to back out now?

[QUOTE="septicvirus"]This thread wasn't even about graphics. Why must Cows try to make everything about graphics? Chutebox

One of your friends started it, trying to back out now?

Great! Maybe you can help me out with this...

I'm trying to figure out how many FULL racing games have come out on the 360 that include damage. Then we can talk about why GT5p is a racing demo (supposedly a simulator), yet the devs still have excuses for not having included damage. To make matters worse, they charged $40 for this incomplete demo - in which they are said to include damage within a few months.

1. Please don't say "they are perfectionists and want to get it perfect" cuz they said in their most recent interview that they couldn't make it realistic to the point that a crash going fast renders the car undrivable. - that wouldn't be any fun they claim

2. Please don't say damage is only visual and not important - cuz otherwise they wouldn't be working to patch it in.

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="septicvirus"]This thread wasn't even about graphics. Why must Cows try to make everything about graphics? septicvirus

One of your friends started it, trying to back out now?

Great! Maybe you can help me out with this...

I'm trying to figure out how many FULL racing games have come out on the 360 that include damage. Then we can talk about why GT5p is a racing demo (supposedly a simulator), yet the devs still have excuses for not having included damage. To make matters worse, they charged $40 for this incomplete demo - in which they are said to include damage within a few months.

1. Please don't say "they are perfectionists and want to get it perfect" cuz they said in their most recent interview that they couldn't make it realistic to the point that a crash going fast renders the car undrivable. - that wouldn't be any fun they claim

2. Please don't say damage is only visual and not important - cuz otherwise they wouldn't be working to patch it in.

Do you think gta is incomplete since they are adding dlc later down the road? Yea, that's what I though homie. Forza had damage, but it's no where near realistic so what is your point? The only factor gt5 is missing for some people is damage which is going to be added.

So let me ask you, if they are going to add it, what is there to complain about?

Second, you don't have a Ps3 and hate it for some reason, so why the hell do you care so much?

[QUOTE="septicvirus"][QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="septicvirus"]This thread wasn't even about graphics. Why must Cows try to make everything about graphics? Chutebox

One of your friends started it, trying to back out now?

Great! Maybe you can help me out with this...

I'm trying to figure out how many FULL racing games have come out on the 360 that include damage. Then we can talk about why GT5p is a racing demo (supposedly a simulator), yet the devs still have excuses for not having included damage. To make matters worse, they charged $40 for this incomplete demo - in which they are said to include damage within a few months.

1. Please don't say "they are perfectionists and want to get it perfect" cuz they said in their most recent interview that they couldn't make it realistic to the point that a crash going fast renders the car undrivable. - that wouldn't be any fun they claim

2. Please don't say damage is only visual and not important - cuz otherwise they wouldn't be working to patch it in.

Do you think gta is incomplete since they are adding dlc later down the road? Yea, that's what I though homie. Forza had damage, but it's no where near realistic so what is your point? The only factor gt5 is missing for some people is damage which is going to be added.

So let me ask you, if they are going to add it, what is there to complain about?

Second, you don't have a Ps3 and hate it for some reason, so why the hell do you care so much?

Great, so you ignored my post. How counterproductive.

How you gon claim Forza damage is not realistic - when GT5's damage will be the same? Something tells me there's going to be a lot of backpeddling done by Cows when GT5 finally incorporates damage.

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="septicvirus"]This thread wasn't even about graphics. Why must Cows try to make everything about graphics? septicvirus

One of your friends started it, trying to back out now?

Great! Maybe you can help me out with this...

I'm trying to figure out how many FULL racing games have come out on the 360 that include damage. Then we can talk about why GT5p is a racing demo (supposedly a simulator), yet the devs still have excuses for not having included damage. To make matters worse, they charged $40 for this incomplete demo - in which they are said to include damage within a few months.

1. Please don't say "they are perfectionists and want to get it perfect" cuz they said in their most recent interview that they couldn't make it realistic to the point that a crash going fast renders the car undrivable. - that wouldn't be any fun they claim

2. Please don't say damage is only visual and not important - cuz otherwise they wouldn't be working to patch it in.

UGH screw it Im gonna record a video that is on GT5P with Kazunori Yamauchi explaining why he never wanted to implement damage into the GT series....it should be uploaded within an hour from now on youtube ill send a link.

[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="septicvirus"][QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="septicvirus"]This thread wasn't even about graphics. Why must Cows try to make everything about graphics? septicvirus

One of your friends started it, trying to back out now?

Great! Maybe you can help me out with this...

I'm trying to figure out how many FULL racing games have come out on the 360 that include damage. Then we can talk about why GT5p is a racing demo (supposedly a simulator), yet the devs still have excuses for not having included damage. To make matters worse, they charged $40 for this incomplete demo - in which they are said to include damage within a few months.

1. Please don't say "they are perfectionists and want to get it perfect" cuz they said in their most recent interview that they couldn't make it realistic to the point that a crash going fast renders the car undrivable. - that wouldn't be any fun they claim

2. Please don't say damage is only visual and not important - cuz otherwise they wouldn't be working to patch it in.

Do you think gta is incomplete since they are adding dlc later down the road? Yea, that's what I though homie. Forza had damage, but it's no where near realistic so what is your point? The only factor gt5 is missing for some people is damage which is going to be added.

So let me ask you, if they are going to add it, what is there to complain about?

Second, you don't have a Ps3 and hate it for some reason, so why the hell do you care so much?

Great, so you ignored my post. How counterproductive.

How you gon claim Forza damage is not realistic - when GT5's damage will be the same? Something tells me there's going to be a lot of backpeddling done by Cows when GT5 finally incorporates damage.

Forza's isn't realistic. If you think it is you need to drive a car in the real world. Where did I say GT's will be more realistic? And you ignored 95% of my post which I'm not surprised by.

Grid looks good, indeed, but I have to admit, GT5p looks WAY better, graphical wise.

cmon fanboys, dont deny this. you cant just simply tell Grid is better because of the damage, wat about the features? the simulation? the gameplay?