GTA 2--> GTA III --- > GTA IV

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#1 FrozenLiquid
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Guys I was wondering, Grand Theft Auto 2 to 3 was a gigantic leap. No one's going to deny that, because you can't. Now Vice City and Sandreas had small, but valued improvements over the GTA III formula. But obviously, from R*'s perspective, it's not enough to warrant calling them IV and V respectively. So, what does GTA IV have that entitles it to be an 'official' sequel in the GTA series? Does anyone have any info? Honestly, I can't see anything other than it having better graphics, and being back at LIberty City. Discuss.
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#2 PBSnipes
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I think its the overall feel of the game. Going by the various trailers it looks like GTA4 is going to be a much more "serious" game. I'm sure its still going to have the trademark GTA humor, but its not going to play like a cartoon as GTA 3, VC and SA did.
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#3 ILoveBeingDrunk
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Your logic is flawless.
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#4 WatsonC
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Your logic is flawless.ILoveBeingDrunk

thats sarcasm right?? has anyone played GTA 4??

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#5 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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dunno. i only played San Andreas, so I hope it's at least a little different than that, or what's the point?
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#6 speedjunkie1992
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Well i think thats why they did it, because so many people loved the simplicity of it. San Andreas just whored the whole aspect of GTA. Thats why i love GTA2 still and always will do. I will agree though it seems there isnt much improvement cept for graphics and maybe a few more gameplay mechanics.
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#7 Bansheesdie
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New combat mechanics, online play, new mission outline, living city, just to name a few.

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#8 Kratos_OMEGA
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Not that big. The cities will feel more real due to better AI and graphics but that's about it.
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Well for starters new gfx engine, game-play mechanics : cover system, targeting, "rumor" use of car interior (trunk), functional cell phone for calling and receiving call's,new wanted system and allot more thing that are not being mentioned yet I think.

I think those thing's are enough to take GTA to status of GTAIV.

P.S. The city will be alive IMO nothing you have see before :D or at least the AI will be better then in AC :P

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#10 Cubs360
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YOU HAVE NOT PLAYED THE GAME. WAIT UNTIL YOU PLAY OK
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Well for starters new gfx engine, game-play mechanics : cover system, targeting, "rumor" use of car interior (trunk), functional cell phone for calling and receiving call's,new wanted system and allot more thing that are not being mentioned yet I think. hailltoyou

In-game internet that the player can access and catch up on the goings on.

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#12 ICollegeStudent
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GTA 3 vice city, and san andres were all the same stories with different times and characters, GTA IV is a whole new story.
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#13 ss_49
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From the trailers I've seen, it seems like R* is trying to add some morality to the series.

Instead of just blindly destorying everything in sight (though you'll obviously have that option:P) it sounds like you'll have to make some hard-hitting moral choices while playing GTA4....possibly with branching storylines and all the fancy crap that comes with games of this nature.

I dunno, I may be way off-base but that's just the impression I get from the way the main character was introduced. He seems more reluctant to do crime than the previous characters...

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#14 ProductNumber49
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Not much but...

I think now you could climb vertical things,like poles and stuff.

There's also the euphoria engine(not sure),which makes enemies smarter and they try to grab on things when the get knocked off...Also some physics related to that engine.

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#15 crazyjames1080
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I hope they get rid of the lock-on targeting system.
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it will be amazing

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I hope they get rid of the lock-on targeting system.crazyjames1080
I saw someone else say that. Why?
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[QUOTE="crazyjames1080"]I hope they get rid of the lock-on targeting system.Jandurin
I saw someone else say that. Why?

It doesn't feel intuitive IMO especially when you are locked on and running and while you can manually aim in SA, you have to move the analogue stick away from the target which is a pain. Meh, maybe other people like it that way.:P

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#19 Hungry_Homer111
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I think that it's not one huge change like they did in GTA3 (both with the 2D -> 3D thing, but also a whole new feel overall), but instead lots of little changes and improvements, like the ones in Bansheesdie's and hailtoyou's posts,which will give it another new feel for the game. So, it isn't so much one huge leap, but lots of smaller leaps, which can get you just as far.
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[QUOTE="crazyjames1080"]I hope they get rid of the lock-on targeting system.Jandurin
I saw someone else say that. Why?


I agree I love the lock on targeting system. Without it the game would be too hard and would just be a third person shooter in an huge enviorment which I definately do not want
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[QUOTE="crazyjames1080"]I hope they get rid of the lock-on targeting system.Jandurin
I saw someone else say that. Why?

Well some press where able to see gun fight. There was this over the shoulder targeting system+cover system ( GeoW style )

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#22 Always-Honest
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Knowing>>>guessing>>>pretending to know the future
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#23 FrozenLiquid
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Okay, thanks guys for the info. I knew I didn't know a lot of things, because R* aren't hacks. Oh, and I heard the Euphoria engine? That's a winner in my eyes already 8). Oh, and to the people making witty, smart-ass comments to my OP, you really need to take them and shove 'em up your %$&. :P But it's System Wars I guess, so whatever.
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#24 Always-Honest
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Okay, thanks guys for the info. I knew I didn't know a lot of things, because R* aren't hacks. Oh, and I heard the Euphoria engine? That's a winner in my eyes already 8). Oh, and to the people making witty, smart-ass comments to my OP, you really need to take them and shove 'em up your %$&. :P But it's System Wars I guess, so whatever.FrozenLiquid

make othe rtopic titles if you don't want those comments. you get what you ask for.

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Guys I was wondering, Grand Theft Auto 2 to 3 was a gigantic leap. No one's going to deny that, because you can't. Now Vice City and Sandreas had small, but valued improvements over the GTA III formula. But obviously, from R*'s perspective, it's not enough to warrant calling them IV and V respectively. So, what does GTA IV have that entitles it to be an 'official' sequel in the GTA series? Does anyone have any info? Honestly, I can't see anything other than it having better graphics, and being back at LIberty City. Discuss.FrozenLiquid
Um, because its going to be on next-gen hardware?
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Guys I was wondering, Grand Theft Auto 2 to 3 was a gigantic leap. No one's going to deny that, because you can't. Now Vice City and Sandreas had small, but valued improvements over the GTA III formula. But obviously, from R*'s perspective, it's not enough to warrant calling them IV and V respectively. So, what does GTA IV have that entitles it to be an 'official' sequel in the GTA series? Does anyone have any info? Honestly, I can't see anything other than it having better graphics, and being back at LIberty City. Discuss.FrozenLiquid

Are u a fan of the series? Same crap said about so many games... sorry but kind of annoying IMO

Why do games have to be different or innovative to be great? GTA is already great. It is when corporate people try to change a great thing that great games or shows or movies are ruined and turned to garbage. San Andreas was better than VC IMO except for the music selection compared to VC.

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#27 Heretix_Aevum
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I think that in short, it will be a much more realistic game, and alot more satisfying in general.
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#28 Mercenary343
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Online play, better AI.
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new consoles
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[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]Guys I was wondering, Grand Theft Auto 2 to 3 was a gigantic leap. No one's going to deny that, because you can't. Now Vice City and Sandreas had small, but valued improvements over the GTA III formula. But obviously, from R*'s perspective, it's not enough to warrant calling them IV and V respectively. So, what does GTA IV have that entitles it to be an 'official' sequel in the GTA series? Does anyone have any info? Honestly, I can't see anything other than it having better graphics, and being back at LIberty City. Discuss.kcpp2b

Are u a fan of the series? Same crap said about so many games... sorry but kind of annoying IMO

Why do games have to be different or innovative to be great? GTA is already great. It is when corporate people try to change a great thing that great games or shows or movies are ruined and turned to garbage. San Andreas was better than VC IMO except for the music selection compared to VC.

Comeon the gameplay is stuck in the stone ages by now. They had been using the same engine and the same gameplay for over seven years. If the game doesn't strike me as evolved in any way I will be incredibly disappointed. Just because the gameplay works doesn't mean you shouldn't try and do the right thing and make it better.