GTA 4 lost and damned coming to PC.

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="Doolz2024"]How can you not call EFLC exclusive? Is EFLC available on any other system besides the 360? LaD no longer counts as a 360 exclusive, but EFLC does, unless of course it also becomes available for PC at some point.Doolz2024

TheMetroid prime trilogy doesn't count as an exclusive here because the first two games are available on the gamecube and with EFLC its the same (one out of the twois not exclusive there for the package doesnt count)

lol, 360 really has almost nothing that isn't on PC. Why does the system exist?Parasomniac

lol, 360 really has almost nothing that isn't on PC. Why does the system exist?Parasomniac

To give them a $200 - $300 alternative to the PC.

[QUOTE="RyuRanVII"]

Again those ridiculous "Microsoft own PC Gaming" arguments. :roll:

I don't see any reason why Rockstar wouldn't release the expansion pack for the PS3 too.

HuusAsking

Or so that's what was said from the two companies.

Lemmings lose another AAAE from the spreadsheet that probably shouldn't have been there in the first place. Same old same old from MS and lemmings keep falling for it... Just buy a pc guys... Unless you love Halo that much.

Eddie-Vedder

[QUOTE="Doolz2024"]

[QUOTE="toast_burner"] Same reason Mrtroid prime trilogy doesnt count as a exclusive. TBOGT is exclusive but TLAD and EFLC are not.

toast_burner

TheMetroid prime trilogy doesn't count as an exclusive here because the first two games are available on the gamecube and with EFLC its the same (one out of the twois not exclusive there for the package doesnt count)

[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"]

Lemmings lose another AAAE from the spreadsheet that probably shouldn't have been there in the first place. Same old same old from MS and lemmings keep falling for it... Just buy a pc guys... Unless you love Halo that much.

Brean24

Microsoft earns no royalties from it. None whatsoever, so how can it be exclusive to them? :?

They don't own PC gaming, as many companies are involved. Even Sony builds PCs.

I'm not sying EFLC is no longer exclusive, just correcting a somewhat ridiculous claim.

[QUOTE="anshul89"]

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]GTA EFLC remains exclusive. :P

SecretPolice

[QUOTE="Brean24"][QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"]

Lemmings lose another AAAE from the spreadsheet that probably shouldn't have been there in the first place. Same old same old from MS and lemmings keep falling for it... Just buy a pc guys... Unless you love Halo that much.

lundy86_4

Microsoft earns no royalties from it. None whatsoever, so how can it be exclusive to them? :?

They don't own PC gaming, as many companies are involved. Even Sony builds PCs.

I'm not sying EFLC is no longer exclusive, just correcting a somewhat ridiculous claim.

]lol, keep thinking it isn't exclusive. You can't buy EFLC on any other platform. Therefore it is a 360 exclusive.Doolz2024

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="Doolz2024"]lol, whatever. I've never heard of anything only available on one platform that wasn't considered exclusive. EFLC only on 360! But it's not exclusive... :?

TheMetroid prime trilogy doesn't count as an exclusive here because the first two games are available on the gamecube and with EFLC its the same (one out of the twois not exclusive there for the package doesnt count)

[QUOTE="toast_burner"] its very simple. when you buy EFLC you get TBOGT and TLAD there is no game called EFLC (look at the box it says "two complete game" not 3"

TheMetroid prime trilogy doesn't count as an exclusive here because the first two games are available on the gamecube and with EFLC its the same (one out of the twois not exclusive there for the package doesnt count)

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="Brean24"] Its still exclusive. TLAD PC is part of Games for Windows and Live, and iti s being sold through the PC live marketplace, so it is still exclusive to Microsoft.Brean24

Microsoft earns no royalties from it. None whatsoever, so how can it be exclusive to them? :?

They don't own PC gaming, as many companies are involved. Even Sony builds PCs.

I'm not sying EFLC is no longer exclusive, just correcting a somewhat ridiculous claim.

I didn't know it was only available via Games for Windows Live Marketplace. Even so, we don't have company exclusives in System Wars :?

Do you have a link to it solely being bought through Games for Windows Live? Seems like an odd move, considering GTA4 is widespread through a number of DD services.

[QUOTE="HuusAsking"][QUOTE="RyuRanVII"]

Again those ridiculous "Microsoft own PC Gaming" arguments. :roll:

I don't see any reason why Rockstar wouldn't release the expansion pack for the PS3 too.

Chutebox

Or so that's what was said from the two companies.

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="Doolz2024"]lol, whatever. I've never heard of anything only available on one platform that wasn't considered exclusive. EFLC only on 360! But it's not exclusive... :?

Doolz2024

TheMetroid prime trilogy doesn't count as an exclusive here because the first two games are available on the gamecube and with EFLC its the same (one out of the twois not exclusive there for the package doesnt count)

If a game on one platform comprises the essential part of the game on another platform, then neither game is exclusive. This is why collector's editions, revamped ports (ES, ToV, the NGSigmas), and so on blank out first-run versions.

If a game comprises an anthology, it is only exclusive if all the included games reside on one and only one platform. That's why the MPrime trilogy is not exclusive (because two of the volumes are on the GameCube). This is the argument against EFLC. Half of its content, TLAD, is going multiplat (since PC counts as a platform). Furthermore, this raises the prospect of BoGT also jumping in the near future.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="Brean24"] Its still exclusive. TLAD PC is part of Games for Windows and Live, and iti s being sold through the PC live marketplace, so it is still exclusive to Microsoft.Brean24

Microsoft earns no royalties from it. None whatsoever, so how can it be exclusive to them? :?

They don't own PC gaming, as many companies are involved. Even Sony builds PCs.

I'm not sying EFLC is no longer exclusive, just correcting a somewhat ridiculous claim.

[QUOTE="Brean24"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Microsoft earns no royalties from it. None whatsoever, so how can it be exclusive to them? :?

They don't own PC gaming, as many companies are involved. Even Sony builds PCs.

I'm not sying EFLC is no longer exclusive, just correcting a somewhat ridiculous claim.

Eddie-Vedder

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="HuusAsking"]How about the fact Microsoft would immediately demand all the money back from Rockstar--plus penalties for breach of contract?HuusAsking

Or so that's what was said from the two companies.

[QUOTE="HuusAsking"][QUOTE="Chutebox"] They already paid MS back, the money was just a loan from MS.

Or so that's what was said from the two companies.

Chutebox

[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"]

[QUOTE="Brean24"] Microsoft may not own PC gaming, but in this case Microsoft are personally selling TLAD on their own system, thus Microsoft and the developers are the sole profiteers Sony is not earning money from TLAD in any way shape or from, so it is a microsoft exclusive. You can only diownload TLAD by going on Live Marketplace so it is a microsoft exclusive.. HuusAsking

PS1, PS2 and PSP games are still denied to MS though. So the whole point is moot.

Still, I don't really care if it stays exclusive :P

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="HuusAsking"]There could still be breach of contract issues if they were to go to the PS3.HuusAsking

[QUOTE="Brean24"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Microsoft earns no royalties from it. None whatsoever, so how can it be exclusive to them? :?

They don't own PC gaming, as many companies are involved. Even Sony builds PCs.

I'm not sying EFLC is no longer exclusive, just correcting a somewhat ridiculous claim.

lundy86_4

I didn't know it was only available via Games for Windows Live Marketplace. Even so, we don't have company exclusives in System Wars :?

Do you have a link to it solely being bought through Games for Windows Live? Seems like an odd move, considering GTA4 is widespread through a number of DD services.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="Brean24"] Microsoft may not own PC gaming, but in this case Microsoft are personally selling TLAD on their own system, thus Microsoft and the developers are the sole profiteers Sony is not earning money from TLAD in any way shape or from, so it is a microsoft exclusive. You can only download TLAD by going on Live Marketplace so it is a microsoft exclusive.. Brean24

I didn't know it was only available via Games for Windows Live Marketplace. Even so, we don't have company exclusives in System Wars :?

Do you have a link to it solely being bought through Games for Windows Live? Seems like an odd move, considering GTA4 is widespread through a number of DD services.

Well if it is distributed on other DD services, which is likely. The only money Microsoft would earn would be from distributing it through their network, which by extension could also make the game a Valve exclusive, or D2D exclusive, as it'll likely be offered through those aswell.

Microsoft charge no royalties for carrying the GfW branding.

How about we make EFLC half an exclusive? So now the 360 has the first 1/2AAAE ever!:P

[QUOTE="Brean24"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

I didn't know it was only available via Games for Windows Live Marketplace. Even so, we don't have company exclusives in System Wars :?

Do you have a link to it solely being bought through Games for Windows Live? Seems like an odd move, considering GTA4 is widespread through a number of DD services.

lundy86_4

Well if it is distributed on other DD services, which is likely. The only money Microsoft would earn would be from distributing it through their network, which by extension could also make the game a Valve exclusive, or D2D exclusive, as it'll likely be offered through those aswell.

Microsoft charge no royalties for carrying the GfW branding.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="Brean24"] I dont have a link persay, but even the dd verisons of GTA 4 have to have Live to save, so extending that, the marketplace is also including in DD versions of GTA 4, so every version has Live and marketplace, so I am assuming that the marketplace is where TLAD will be distributed. Though I could be wrong.Brean24

Well if it is distributed on other DD services, which is likely. The only money Microsoft would earn would be from distributing it through their network, which by extension could also make the game a Valve exclusive, or D2D exclusive, as it'll likely be offered through those aswell.

Microsoft charge no royalties for carrying the GfW branding.

The 50 million was a loan and we are not privy to the details of the contract. It very well could have just been timed-exclusivity.

The 50 million has nothing to do with whether the game is MS exclusive, due to the fact that they earn $0 from the release of TLAD on PC, unless it's through their download service for providing it.

[QUOTE="Brean24"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Well if it is distributed on other DD services, which is likely. The only money Microsoft would earn would be from distributing it through their network, which by extension could also make the game a Valve exclusive, or D2D exclusive, as it'll likely be offered through those aswell.

Microsoft charge no royalties for carrying the GfW branding.

lundy86_4

The 50 million was a loan and we are not privy to the details of the contract. It very well could have just been timed-exclusivity.

The 50 million has nothing to do with whether the game is MS exclusive, due to the fact that they earn $0 from the release of TLAD on PC, unless it's through their download service for providing it.

[QUOTE="HuusAsking"][QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"] Does that mean we can add PS1, PS2 and PSP games to the PS3 spreadsheet? Nobody cares if it's a "Microsoft exclusive", it isn't a 360 exclusive.

lundy86_4

PS1, PS2 and PSP games are still denied to MS though. So the whole point is moot.

Still, I don't really care if it stays exclusive :P

To be honest I'm more interested in the info they have on Guild Wars 2 :P

[QUOTE="RyuRanVII"]

Again those ridiculous "Microsoft own PC Gaming" arguments. :roll:

I don't see any reason why Rockstar wouldn't release the expansion pack for the PS3 too.

HuusAsking

So basically the 360 had only 2 high quality exclusives in 09 :lol:

So basically the 360 had only 2 high quality exclusives in 09 :lol:

anshul89

ODST and ?? can't remember the other.

[QUOTE="anshul89"]

So basically the 360 had only 2 high quality exclusives in 09 :lol:

Espada12

ODST and ?? can't remember the other.

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

[QUOTE="anshul89"]

So basically the 360 had only 2 high quality exclusives in 09 :lol:

mitu123

ODST and ?? can't remember the other.

Oh yes thanks.

pretty sure Rockstar would get more money if they released this for the PS3 too.

You realize it's released for Windows, so it's in Microsoft's best interest to bring games to their other platform, the PC. So it's Microsoft exclusive/Innocentguy757

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

[QUOTE="anshul89"]No, it won't remain exclusive. $20 exclusive dlc doesn't count on system wars. $40 worth of exclusive content counts, but not $20.

anshul89

You realize it's released for Windows, so it's in Microsoft's best interest to bring games to their other platform, the PC. So it's Microsoft exclusive/Innocentguy757

Microsoft doesn't make a cent from games released for PC, so it doesn't own PC.

While you're at it why not make every single game exclusive to your electicity supplier?

[QUOTE="Innocentguy757"]You realize it's released for Windows, so it's in Microsoft's best interest to bring games to their other platform, the PC. So it's Microsoft exclusive/Hanass

Microsoft doesn't make a cent from games released for PC, so it doesn't own PC.

While you're at it why not make every single game exclusive to your electicity supplier?

MS is a modern day saint I guess.

Who da thunk it? :twisted:

[QUOTE="anshul89"]

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]GTA EFLC remains exclusive. :P

SecretPolice