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#1 call_of_duty_10
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Yep,I said it.

The reason crysis(1) has held the crown till now is because of mods.Otherwise,Metro 2033 would be the graphics king.

As mods are fair,I present to you...MODDED GTA IV AKA GRAPHICS KING.

EDIT0:The game looks much better in motion.PROOF [Not my video but the same config]

EDIT1:I know there is a lot of aliasing,but that is because I have a LOW END pc.As everyone knows,the gta4 engine does not support AA.ENB overcomes this problem by doubling your resolution.It is an effective method,but kills performance.If you have a mid range PC you can turn on AA and the framerate will still be playable.AND EVEN WITHOUT AA the jagged lines are barely visible in motion due to blur.The car in the first screenshot has many jagged edges but it is the only car with a lot of aliasing.

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#2 R3FURBISHED
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A game (Graphics, Gameplay, etc.) should be judged based on its own merits...not merits presented to it by a third party.

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#3 coreybg
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Well TC, throw the object through the window to show us you're serious, because I don't believe it.

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#4 call_of_duty_10
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A game (in whatever category) should be judged based on its own merits...not merits presented to it by a third party.R3FURBISHED
Then why isn't metro 2033 the graphics king? It looks much better than vanilla crysis.
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Looks great but not the best imo. Shogun 2 is king. 8)

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#6 call_of_duty_10
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Well TC, throw the object through the window to show us you're serious, because I don't believe it.

coreybg

lol xP

Yes,I am serious.I would have posted a gif of niko throwing the brick but I don't know how:P

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[QUOTE="R3FURBISHED"]A game (in whatever category) should be judged based on its own merits...not merits presented to it by a third party.call_of_duty_10
Then why isn't metro 2033 the graphics king? It looks much better than vanilla crysis.

No it doesn't.

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#8 R3FURBISHED
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[QUOTE="R3FURBISHED"]A game (in whatever category) should be judged based on its own merits...not merits presented to it by a third party.call_of_duty_10
Then why isn't metro 2033 the graphics king? It looks much better than vanilla crysis.

I don't give two s**** about graphics, so don't ask me. All I know is that I have only ever played vanilla Crysis and it is a looker.

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#9 coreybg
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[QUOTE="coreybg"]

Well TC, throw the object through the window to show us you're serious, because I don't believe it.

call_of_duty_10

lol xP

Yes,I am serious.I would have posted a gif of niko throwing the brick but I don't know how:P

I still won't believe until you do it.

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#10 DreamCryotank
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Crysis 2 looks better than Metro 2033. Metro 2033 just has some moments were it looks good, but overrall it's overated imo. Although it still looks better than any console game.

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You guys should whine about the bloom.
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#12 call_of_duty_10
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[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"]

[QUOTE="coreybg"]

Well TC, throw the object through the window to show us you're serious, because I don't believe it.

coreybg

lol xP

Yes,I am serious.I would have posted a gif of niko throwing the brick but I don't know how:P

I still won't believe until you do it.

If I do it,the old man will get angry.

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#13 gamecubepad
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Crysis 2 looks better than that.

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Not close, and no cigar.

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#15 call_of_duty_10
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Crysis 2 looks better than that.

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Mind posting some screenshots for comparison?I have completed 3 levels so far and I believe that gta 4 looks better.
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#16 DragonfireXZ95
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[QUOTE="gamecubepad"]

Crysis 2 looks better than that.

call_of_duty_10

Mind posting some screenshots for comparison?I have completed 3 levels so far and I believe that gta 4 looks better.

With mods yes. We'll see what happens when the first texture mod for Crysis 2 is released along with the DX11 patch.

Vanilla Crysis 2 craps all over vanilla GTAIV though.

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#17 drinkerofjuice
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I guess you WOULD have to mod GTA4 now. I love the game, but it looks awful un-modded.
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#18 call_of_duty_10
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[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"][QUOTE="gamecubepad"]

Crysis 2 looks better than that.

DragonfireXZ95

Mind posting some screenshots for comparison?I have completed 3 levels so far and I believe that gta 4 looks better.

Vanilla Crysis 2 craps all over vanilla GTAIV though.

Of course it does!Vanilla gta 4 is very ugly. Enb can totally change the graphics though.

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#19 DragonfireXZ95
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[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]

[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"] Mind posting some screenshots for comparison?I have completed 3 levels so far and I believe that gta 4 looks better.call_of_duty_10

Vanilla Crysis 2 craps all over vanilla GTAIV though.

Of course it does!Vanilla gta 4 is very ugly. Enb can totally change the graphics though.

Yeah it can, and when the Crysis 2 graphic mods are released, I'm sure it'll be the same kind of change in graphics.
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#20 R3FURBISHED
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Of course it does!Vanilla gta 4 is very ugly. Enb can totally change the graphics though.

call_of_duty_10

as i said before

A game (Graphics, Gameplay, etc.) should be judged based on its own merits...not merits presented to it by a third party.

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#21 call_of_duty_10
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[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"]

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]Vanilla Crysis 2 craps all over vanilla GTAIV though.DragonfireXZ95

Of course it does!Vanilla gta 4 is very ugly. Enb can totally change the graphics though.

Yeah it can, and when the Crysis 2 graphic mods are released, I'm sure it'll be the same kind of change in graphics.

\ We still don't know whether it will have mod support or not. Crytek has said that they will release cryeditor but I don't trust them. Anyway,that's not what the thread is about. I am saying that compared to games today,modded gta4 is the king.
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#22 edidili
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Those pics are quite ugly. This video in the other hand may change someone's mind.

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#23 call_of_duty_10
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[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"]

Of course it does!Vanilla gta 4 is very ugly. Enb can totally change the graphics though.

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as i said before

A game (Graphics, Gameplay, etc.) should be judged based on its own merits...not merits presented to it by a third party.

R3FURBISHED

Mods are fair when when comparing PCs and consoles. They should be allowed in graphics king discussions too. STALKER SoC is an ugly game but many people place it in top 10 due to the 'complete 2009' mod.
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#24 call_of_duty_10
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Those pics are quite ugly. This video in the other hand may change someone's mind.

edidili

I tried that config before the current one. It only looks good in the video. The one I am using right now is much better.Let me see if I can find the youtube vid which presented the config in a much better way.

EDIT:check the OP.

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#25 TheAcountantMan
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Thats not GAT IV tho.....thats real life.

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#26 DJ_Headshot
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[QUOTE="gamecubepad"]

Crysis 2 looks better than that.

call_of_duty_10

Mind posting some screenshots for comparison?I have completed 3 levels so far and I believe that gta 4 looks better.

Here are form crysis 2 mp at high settings.

http://screenshot.xfire.com/s/112661795-4.jpghttp://screenshot.xfire.com/s/112661811-4.jpghttp://screenshot.xfire.com/s/112682723-4.jpghttp://screenshot.xfire.com/s/112661800-4.jpg

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#27 R3FURBISHED
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Mods are fair when when comparing PCs and consoles. They should be allowed in graphics king discussions too. STALKER SoC is an ugly game but many people place it in top 10 due to the 'complete 2009' mod.call_of_duty_10

They aren't though, a video game should be judged on its own merits. If it is lacking in an area or two...then its lacking in an area or two.

Shadow of Chernobyl is not the best looking game at all, and GTA IV hasn't been good looking since it came out.

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#28 call_of_duty_10
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[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"][QUOTE="gamecubepad"]

Crysis 2 looks better than that.

DJ_Headshot

Mind posting some screenshots for comparison?I have completed 3 levels so far and I believe that gta 4 looks better.

Here are form crysis 2 mp at high settings.

These screenshots are not good for comparison.I need shots that are in the city.

I would have compared them myself but I haven't finished the SP.

If possible,can you post scrrenshots of buildings in the city?(Day and night both)

Unfortunately,we cannot compare manhattan as I haven't unlocked alonquin yet.

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#29 gamecubepad
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shots from incrysis.

GTAIV has good lighting when it's modded, but the character models look last-gen. C2 easily wins when you look at every aspect.

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#30 G-O-M-J
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crysis 2 pwns all.
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What's the "(56k)" in the title for ?
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#32 call_of_duty_10
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I agree with the point about character models,but the lighting is destroyed by the (lack of)shadows.

look at that roadblock beside the police station.It should cast a shadow but it isn't.The result is that there's a reflection of the object above on the road which should have been covered by a shadow.This looks bad.You can see the problem with the shadows on other objects too.

All objects cast shadows in gta4 at night which looks more natural.

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#33 call_of_duty_10
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What's the "(56k)" in the title for ?jiggaleroy
To warn dial up users.
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#34 Crimsader
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Yeah, but it still runs like crap. Who needs a graphics when you can't play it normally.
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#35 call_of_duty_10
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Yeah, but it still runs like crap. Who needs a graphics when you can't play it normally.Crimsader
That can be said about all games with good graphics...
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#36 Inconsistancy
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[QUOTE="Crimsader"]Yeah, but it still runs like crap. Who needs a graphics when you can't play it normally.call_of_duty_10
That can be said about all games with good graphics...

I agree, crysis runs like garbage >.> oh wait, no it doesn't.
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Looks better than GTA4 and Metro 2033 imo.

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#38 call_of_duty_10
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[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"][QUOTE="Crimsader"]Yeah, but it still runs like crap. Who needs a graphics when you can't play it normally.Inconsistancy
That can be said about all games with good graphics...

I agree, crysis runs like garbage >.> oh wait, no it doesn't.

All those "can it run crysis?" threads were made for a reason. Metro 2033 and arma 2 look great but the performance is terrible.
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#39 call_of_duty_10
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Does anyone know where I can find save files for GTA4?

I want to take screenshots of alonquin for comparison.

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#40 gamecubepad
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I agree with the point about character models,but the lighting is destroyed by the (lack of)shadows.

call_of_duty_10

Bit nit-picky considering the shots you posted look drab compared to ones I put up. Watch these amazing vids from DreamCryotank. Puts GTAIV to shame.

http://youtu.be/uwUY5bZmJOQ?hd=1

http://youtu.be/6K1iGoEiInc?hd=1

http://youtu.be/iDZHIaIr7GQ?hd=1

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#41 Crimsader
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[QUOTE="Crimsader"]Yeah, but it still runs like crap. Who needs a graphics when you can't play it normally.call_of_duty_10
That can be said about all games with good graphics...

Nope. It's all about the port. The saves are in AppData/Roaming.
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#42 call_of_duty_10
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[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"]

I agree with the point about character models,but the lighting is destroyed by the (lack of)shadows.

gamecubepad

Bit nit-picky considering the shots you posted look drab compared to ones I put up. Watch these amazing vids from DreamCryotank. Puts GTAIV to shame.

http://youtu.be/uwUY5bZmJOQ?hd=1

http://youtu.be/6K1iGoEiInc?hd=1

http://youtu.be/iDZHIaIr7GQ?hd=1

I found a save file for gta4. Let me take some screenshots of the times square and then we can compare them better.
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#43 DreamCryotank
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[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"]

I agree with the point about character models,but the lighting is destroyed by the (lack of)shadows.

gamecubepad

Bit nit-picky considering the shots you posted look drab compared to ones I put up. Watch these amazing vids from DreamCryotank. Puts GTAIV to shame.

http://youtu.be/uwUY5bZmJOQ?hd=1

http://youtu.be/6K1iGoEiInc?hd=1

http://youtu.be/iDZHIaIr7GQ?hd=1

:D Part 2 sucks though. Part 3 is my fav. 8)

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#44 kickass1337
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A game (Graphics, Gameplay, etc.) should be judged based on its own merits...not merits presented to it by a third party.

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ooo my eyes..........the jadgies......hurt my eyes....ooooooooo
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#45 gamecubepad
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:D Part 2 sucks though. Part 3 is my fav. 8)

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They're all awesome. Part 3 is the best. The music and the slow-mo makes it into pure magic.

Thanks for making those, and the .gif you did for me, too. Only vids that do the game justice. Makes the official TV ad look like junk...with in-game footage.

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#46 anotherone10
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Wow those jaggies look terrible, but yea GTA 4 on PC with mods does look amazing :D

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#47 call_of_duty_10
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Darn the stupid save file doesn't work thanks to GFWL:x

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#48 call_of_duty_10
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Wow those jaggies look terrible, but yea GTA 4 on PC with mods does look amazing :D

anotherone10
The engine doesn't support AA and the only way to remove them is by doubling the resolution through enb which makes the game unplayable. BUT I have a low end PC and I am sure any mid-range pc can easily handle the game with aa.
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#49 fabz_95
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I wouldn't call it graphics king (either Shogun 2 or Crysis with mods) but I have to say, GTAIV with mods looks fantastic.
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#50 chrion133
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A game (Graphics, Gameplay, etc.) should be judged based on its own merits...not merits presented to it by a third party.

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Thats not the way it works, sorry, mods are a huge part of what makes gaming great. If a mod adds new content to a game, that makes the game better, if it improves the graphics then the graphics are better. If the graphics mod costs money, then I can see you having a point, but since there free, and anyone can grab em, they fully count. Improving a game after its released increases the life of the game and the enjoyment you get out of your 50 bucks.