GTA IV limited to one city because of Xbox 360's DVD9

Isn't it ridiculous to claim the PS3 version will be worse just because the game was shown off on the 360 first?the-very-best

the Ps3 version will have its positives and negatives, and the same will go for the Xbox360. Textures will most likely look better on the Ps3 will a better frame rate most likely. While the Xbox might have a better interface and possible better AI. 

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And to your new question:  "How many PC games ship on multiple DVD9s?"  Probably not very many, any more.  I think that now that most people have PC's in the GB and not the MB that developers take advantage of the PC's hard drive.  Which I already stated earlier.

You have a particluar point you're trying to prove and its failing, hard.  Why don;t you take a little break, take adeep breath, and tell yourself, "I'm a good person, I'm good looking, and darnit, people love me."  Then come back and see if you can make some sense.

LosDaddie

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Oh man....the courage online anonymity gives you is downright hilarious! :lol: Yup, typical cow. :)

All that ranting and still no answer to my original question: Do you know why PC games install info on the HDD yet still ship on a single DVD9?

Is it because DVD9 is not enough? Or because the HDD's speed is far greater than an optical disc speed?

First off, its probably due to both.  They can compress the hech out of stuff and put it on the DVD9 and then it get uncompressed on the HDD.  And yes, the HDD makes speed a a lot better and reduces the possibility of multiple discs.  Look back a few years, lets say 10.  Back then large capacity HDD weren;t in abundance.  Back then mulitple discs for a PC game was normal.  I think, as games get more intense in larger worlds, mor capacity is needed.  But when you have some players with consoles that have small HDD's and small disc capacity, there will be an issue.

As to my online bravery, there is none.  I didn;t challange you to a fight did I?  I'm not a 14 year old 90 lb. kid.

First off, its probably due to both.  They can compress the hech out of stuff and put it on the DVD9 and then it get uncompressed on the HDD.  And yes, the HDD makes speed a a lot better and reduces the possibility of multiple discs.  Look back a few years, lets say 10.  Back then large capacity HDD weren;t in abundance.  Back then mulitple discs for a PC game was normal.  dubvisions

Agreed.

It wasn't so difficult to give a straight answer, now was it?

I think, as games get more intense in larger worlds, mor capacity is needed.  But when you have some players with consoles that have small HDD's and small disc capacity, there will be an issue.dubvisions

This where you prove that you've bought into all of Sony's hype. But that is expected from a typical cow. So don't feel bad. :)

A console's (that includes your beloved PS3) set hardware (512MB RAM, CPU, GPU) will be an "issue" long before optical drives and HDD are an issue. In fact, I'd even say that 512MB of RAM is already an "issue" for devs.

I agree with you to a point though. By the time the x360's hardware will be an "issue", the x720 will be close to launching.  

As to my online bravery, there is none.  I didn;t challange you to a fight did I?  I'm not a 14 year old 90 lb. kid.

dubvisions

If you say so, Mr e-thug.

The stupid thing about the claim is that people actually believe that a company would hold back a game because they don't want to put it on multiple disks.  The customer would rather have 2 disks with a city on each than only one city.  I mean cmon, no one likes switching disks, but who'd sacrifice half the content in a game because they don't want to change a disk.

Cost-wise, a Blu-Ray disk costs more than a coupe of DVD disks, so the price wouldn't really slow down the developer. 

First off Blu-Ray isn't needed because the most graphically intense game is on PC which uses DVD9. But BlackBond PC's have HDD's and install all of its games on the HDD so they don't need Blu-Ray. Yup that's true and that is also why PS3 doesn't need Blu-Ray because EVERY PS3 ALSO HAS A HDD. Seriously you cows bragged about PS3 having a standard HDD and made fun of 360 for not having it standard. Now seeing as how the 20 gig is phased out you have 60 gigs to install games yet you are still letting Sony milk you with the whole Blu-Ray is needed for gaming BS.Blackbond

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]First off Blu-Ray isn't needed because the most graphically intense game is on PC which uses DVD9. But BlackBond PC's have HDD's and install all of its games on the HDD so they don't need Blu-Ray. Yup that's true and that is also why PS3 doesn't need Blu-Ray because EVERY PS3 ALSO HAS A HDD. Seriously you cows bragged about PS3 having a standard HDD and made fun of 360 for not having it standard. Now seeing as how the 20 gig is phased out you have 60 gigs to install games yet you are still letting Sony milk you with the whole Blu-Ray is needed for gaming BS.Squall_Griver

Oh wow the typical why aren't we using CD's argument from a cow again. This is just another form of damage control like when you cows whine about the Wii and its graphics saying well why aren't we using N64 graphics still. The point is that a game that is more advanced then any PS3 game ever will be uses DVD9 and HDD to store its game should say enough to you that Blu-Ray is a luxary not a need. PS3 has a STANDARD HDD in every system there is no need for Blu-Ray it is only a luxary.

We'll see.

But I really wish R* would concentrate on the PS3 version first. 

I'm tired seeing PS3 getting sloppy seconds from 360.