GTA IV PC MAXED on a $120 video card. What's up now, consolites?

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#51 metal_head_5566
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http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26694880&tag=topics;title
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#52 Saturos3091
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[QUOTE="kidcool189"] now ur taking the elitism a little too far, cod:UO was a fantastic game on pc

It's not really elitism, but UO was pretty much the best multiplayer entry in the CoD franchise. Anyway this is the definitive version of the game, obviously (same game, better graphics, optimized controls, etc.). However Rockstar's poor software coding will probably hinder performance on low-end machines.
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#53 Fumpa
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[QUOTE="-Mad_Rhetoric-"][QUOTE="_rpg_FAN"] + ~ 500 $ + hdtv?_rpg_FAN
most people don't just use an HDTV for gameing you=fail also what graphics card did you use TC?

Most ppl dont use PC just for gaming thus you = fail

To be fair, people don't need high end computers unless they're using them for gaming. So only reason to drop the big $$$ on a PC is if you want to play games on it.
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#54 lowe0
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[QUOTE="agentfred"][QUOTE="jharv"]Consoles = 10, we'll see what the PC version gets..Dick_Derringer
Better yet, let's see which version is best.

Doesn't matter what score the PC version gets. It's superior. Can you name one thing the console versions have over the PC version? No.

The Lost and The Damned, and the DLC expansion after that.
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#55 warmaster670
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Yeah ok...

(goes and plays COD5 with 3 other friends)

(PC gamer goes back to playing COD5 alone :( )

NinjaMunkey01

damn, here i thought CoD5 had multiplayer or something on the pc....

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#56 shadow_hosi
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95% cpu usage lol wow that must be a budget system
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#57 shadow_hosi
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[QUOTE="_rpg_FAN"][QUOTE="-Mad_Rhetoric-"] most people don't just use an HDTV for gameing you=fail also what graphics card did you use TC?Fumpa
Most ppl dont use PC just for gaming thus you = fail

To be fair, people don't need high end computers unless they're using them for gaming. So only reason to drop the big $$$ on a PC is if you want to play games on it.

or create/edit video and music and stuff like that profesionaly that is, any system can make garbate stuff
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#58 Gamer4Iife
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[QUOTE="white_sox"]I played mine months ago for $60.
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+ ~ 500 $ + hdtv?

Yes. Still, I find that WAY better than to upgrade your PC every year for ~ $1000. :?

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#59 agentfred
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The Lost and The Damned, and the DLC expansion after that.lowe0
Fair enough, but let's be honest, that alone doesn't make the 360 version superior.
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#60 Brainkiller05
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[QUOTE="_rpg_FAN"][QUOTE="white_sox"]I played mine months ago for $60.
Gamer4Iife

+ ~ 500 $ + hdtv?

Yes. Still, I find that WAY better than to upgrade your PC every year for ~ $1000. :?

:lol: $1000, good one.
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#61 Panther501
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apparently the pc port has lots of technical issues and performance problems so for some reason I don't believe your pic. IGN had problems running on their system which is a very good rig. Check their review.
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#62 Gamer4Iife
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:lol: $1000, good one. Brainkiller05

If he wants to max everything out, which is what this thread is about, a $1000 per year is pretty accurate.

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#63 agentfred
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[QUOTE="_rpg_FAN"][QUOTE="white_sox"]I played mine months ago for $60.
Gamer4Iife

+ ~ 500 $ + hdtv?

Yes. Still, I find that WAY better than to upgrade your PC every year for ~ $1000. :?

:| Didn't you hear? Upgrading is purely optional.
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How does it run? Also, what kind of other specs you running to keep it smooth? Remember, most console players need to build a PC from scratch. You've got $400 to work with. Remember, no monitor, no keyboard, no mouse because you will need all new stuff, espcially if it is a family PC that they are on and they cant steal their family's computer parts.

I'm only going off of my own experiance. $400 isn't enough to fully build a PC. I used $1500 for everything, and I was able to steal a mouse and keyboard from a friend.

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#65 Panther501
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I am pretty sure this pic is fake.
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#66 Brainkiller05
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[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"]:lol: $1000, good one. Gamer4Iife

If he wants to max everything out, which is what this thread is about, a $1000 per year is pretty accurate.

:lol: good one. But really, how is that a point? "uhh well you might have played gtaiv 6 months earlier but you will have to uhh buy an xbox 720 sometime in the future"
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#67 agentfred
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I am pretty sure this pic is fake. Panther501
It could be, but then there is the video he provided of the game running smoothly at those settings. It's still possible he is trying to deceive us, but it's unlikely.
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#68 purple_MAN1832
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[QUOTE="Dick_Derringer"][QUOTE="NinjaMunkey01"]

Yeah ok...

(goes and plays COD5 with 3 other friends)

(PC gamer goes back to playing COD5 alone :( )

kidcool189
This PC Gamer doesn't waste his time with the crappy CoD series.

now ur taking the elitism a little too far, cod:UO was a fantastic game on pc

You can play CoD:WaW with 3 friends on the computer. CoD:UO was a great expansion to a great game :)
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#69 shadow_hosi
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[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"]:lol: $1000, good one. Gamer4Iife

If he wants to max everything out, which is what this thread is about, a $1000 per year is pretty accurate.

i max everything out with my 2 yr old system. it can last me another 2 or so but im getting a 280GTX so it will last me another 4 or maxing everything
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#70 Gamer4Iife
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[QUOTE="Gamer4Iife"]

[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"]:lol: $1000, good one. Brainkiller05

If he wants to max everything out, which is what this thread is about, a $1000 per year is pretty accurate.

:lol: good one. But really, how is that a point? "uhh well you might have played gtaiv 6 months earlier but you will have to uhh buy an xbox 720 sometime in the future"

1. Consoles don't release every year

2. $500 = $1000/2

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#71 Gamer4Iife
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i max everything out with my 2 yr old system. it can last me another 2 or so but im getting a 280GTX so it will last me another 4 or maxing everythingshadow_hosi

Not trying to troll, but if you can still manage to max everything with a 2 year old machine, doesn't that imply that you already paid for a monster machine that probably cost you thousands of dollars ? That's still a LOT more expensive than a console and an HDTV.

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#72 noswear
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Consolites beat this game months ago. Why should they care? It's the same game at a higher resolution, big whoop.

I guess my version is better than yours if I can play it @ 1920X1080 then?

heretrix
And my version's the best because I can play it at 2560x1600? ;)
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#73 adamosmaki
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[QUOTE="_rpg_FAN"][QUOTE="heretrix"]

Consolites beat this game months ago. Why should they care? It's the same game at a higher resolution, big whoop.

I guess my version is better than yours if I can play it @ 1920X1080 then?

heretrix

You cant play it @ 1920 x 1080 GTA4 on consoles is ~ 720 p upscaled Playing it @ native 1600 x 1200 + is ridiculously nice

I can on my PC. He can't. Therefore my version is better.

Resolution isnt the only think better

textures are also better LINK

Also gta4 on PC is $40

But nontheless this is a pretty mediocre port to pc ( a lot of people having performance problems especially ati card owners ). Also the graphiscs quality of gta4 doesnt justify the high system requirements since you need a 768mb card to set textures to high ( you can set them to high with 512 mb modifying the config file but you loose a lot of performance)

I play crysis on high at the same resolution and get 35fps average on my 8800gt i should be able to atleast pull 45-50 fps on gta4 and not 35

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#74 munu9
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Why isn't the texture quality "highest" and the graphics should be 1920 by 1200 because the 360 can upscale to 1080p. ALSO, 37.1 average FPS isn't that great, that means it will go below 30fps in spots. Maxed out this is not
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#75 JangoWuzHere
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Yeah ok...

(goes and plays COD5 with 3 other friends)

(PC gamer goes back to playing COD5 alone :( )

NinjaMunkey01
I don't see whats your point here. The majority of my friends play on PC. Thats like saying PC has a low user base which it dosen't.
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#76 JangoWuzHere
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Why isn't the texture quality "highest" and the graphics should be 1920 by 1200 because the 360 can upscale to 1080p. ALSO, 37.1 average FPS isn't that great, that means it will go below 30fps in spots. Maxed out this is notmunu9
Upscaling is not the same as the real thing. And you don't have to max a game out by res. And the poor FPS is nothing but Rockstars poor coding with this game.
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#77 JangoWuzHere
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[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"]:lol: $1000, good one. Gamer4Iife

If he wants to max everything out, which is what this thread is about, a $1000 per year is pretty accurate.

No you have no idea what your talking about if you ask me. I can build my own High-end PC for about 800$ and that would last me 3 years.(or the whole generation if I don't care about res. and AA/AF)
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#78 InsaneBasura
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Consolites beat this game months ago. Why should they care? It's the same game at a higher resolution, big whoop.

I guess my version is better than yours if I can play it @ 1920X1080 then?

heretrix
Higher resolution, longer view distance and LOD pop-in, twice the number of players, replay editor, integrated custom music and inevitable mods. It is a big whoop, if your PC can handle it. Mine should be able to run it at around 30FPS average with settings maxed judging by this benchmark, but I don't trust my PC, 30FPS with medium settings more like.
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[QUOTE="shadow_hosi"]i max everything out with my 2 yr old system. it can last me another 2 or so but im getting a 280GTX so it will last me another 4 or maxing everythingGamer4Iife

Not trying to troll, but if you can still manage to max everything with a 2 year old machine, doesn't that imply that you already paid for a monster machine that probably cost you thousands of dollars ? That's still a LOT more expensive than a console and an HDTV.

You are mis informed if you think it costs thousands of dollars. This arguement has been crushed to dust but console users still bring it up every now and then. Saying a PC High-end system costing 2000$ is just fanboyish. Granted that PC gameing is more expensive(unless you count consoles using HD-Tv) But its does not cost 1000$ to build a gaming machine.
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#80 MasterC5
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[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"]:lol: $1000, good one. Gamer4Iife

If he wants to max everything out, which is what this thread is about, a $1000 per year is pretty accurate.

Not really you don't need a new motherboard every year
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#81 JangoWuzHere
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]

Consolites beat this game months ago. Why should they care? It's the same game at a higher resolution, big whoop.

I guess my version is better than yours if I can play it @ 1920X1080 then?

InsaneBasura
Higher resolution, longer view distance and LOD pop-in, twice the number of players, replay editor, integrated custom music and inevitable mods. It is a big whoop, if your PC can handle it. Mine should be able to run it at around 30FPS average with settings maxed judging by this benchmark, but I don't trust my PC, 30FPS with medium settings more like.

Don't trust the benchmarks at all. people with High-end systems are having trouble playing this at low setting. Its all Rockstars bad codeing with this game overall.
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#82 noswear
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Yeah ok...

(goes and plays COD5 with 3 other friends)

(PC gamer goes back to playing COD5 alone :( )

NinjaMunkey01
Maybe I have better things to do with my friends than play games?
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#83 adamosmaki
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[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"][QUOTE="Gamer4Iife"]

If he wants to max everything out, which is what this thread is about, a $1000 per year is pretty accurate.

Gamer4Iife

:lol: good one. But really, how is that a point? "uhh well you might have played gtaiv 6 months earlier but you will have to uhh buy an xbox 720 sometime in the future"

1. Consoles don't release every year

2. $500 = $1000/2

So let me see how pc gaming cost 1000 a year if ibuild a rig 2years ago with a geforce 8800gts 640mb (qhich was about 250 ) at a price of $850 and that geforce can max almost every game out ther at 1280x1024 and most of games even at 1680x1024? Also i will probably change that card in 5-6 months for a $150vga like 4850 and add an extra 2gb for 30 so thats $1000 and that rig will last 4-5 years from the day i build it ( according to you i should have paid 5000).

Also do consider that pc games cost 50 while many games and in these case gta4 40. So a ps3 is 500 plus 600 a year for 10 games while a pc is 1000 plus about 450 for 10 games a year. in 5 years ps3=3500 Pc=3250 ( and i do play games with better graphics and free mods)

Now explain again how is pc gaming cost more?

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#84 Macutchi
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Don't trust the benchmarks at all. people with High-end systems are having trouble playing this at low setting. Its all Rockstars bad codeing with this game overall.JangoWuzHere

agreed. those stats look highly suspicious with an 8800gt. my 8800gtx wont let me get anywhere near max settings

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#85 rmerri52
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Whats up Now? Well you get the broken version that's whats up
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#86 shadow_hosi
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[QUOTE="shadow_hosi"]i max everything out with my 2 yr old system. it can last me another 2 or so but im getting a 280GTX so it will last me another 4 or maxing everythingGamer4Iife

Not trying to troll, but if you can still manage to max everything with a 2 year old machine, doesn't that imply that you already paid for a monster machine that probably cost you thousands of dollars ? That's still a LOT more expensive than a console and an HDTV.

not 'alot' no, when i got my system was when the PS3 cost 600, so a PS3 + HDTV would have cost more than my 1.1k rig

wich was a full rebuild because my old mobo didn't have PCIe slots. my ram is full, my sound card is good, so the only thing i will be spendign any money on, untill my cpu is a pile of junk, wil be vid cards.

4-5 years from now ill probably get a new mobo+cpu, but everythign else i have will just transfer over

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#87 steve17989
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Whats up Now? Well you get the broken version that's whats uprmerri52

It may be badly optimized, but you can't deny that the PC version is the best.

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#88 slickchris7777
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That card should be less than $100.

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#89 insanejedi
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[QUOTE="rmerri52"]Whats up Now? Well you get the broken version that's whats upsteve17989

It may be badly optimized, but you can't deny that the PC version is the best.

Well, at least the 360 version by contrast right now looks better and has a better framerate then what most peoples settings are right now.
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#90 steve17989
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[QUOTE="steve17989"]

[QUOTE="rmerri52"]Whats up Now? Well you get the broken version that's whats upinsanejedi

It may be badly optimized, but you can't deny that the PC version is the best.

Well, at least the 360 version by contrast right now looks better and has a better framerate then what most peoples settings are right now.

The PC version on medium settings looks on par with the console versions, people can play on those settings just fine with better AA, larger draw-distance and higher resolutions. Not to mention 32 player multiplayer and the replay editor. The higher settings are what some people seem to be having trouble with, and those settings simply blow away the console versions.

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#91 SamiRDuran
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i love these kind of threads, so much fun to read. One comment from me. How can people think that an upscaled 1080p picture from a console can compare to a native 1080p that a pc can output? Console version runs at 720p which is 1280x720, upscaled to 1080p or not it doesnt make any difference! /period.
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#92 Dick_Derringer
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Why isn't the texture quality "highest" and the graphics should be 1920 by 1200 because the 360 can upscale to 1080p. ALSO, 37.1 average FPS isn't that great, that means it will go below 30fps in spots. Maxed out this is notmunu9
Textures only has Low Medium and High as options. Native 1680x1050 is MUCH nicer than 720p upscaled to 1080p. 37FPS average is higher than the consoles.
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#93 Dick_Derringer
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[QUOTE="shadow_hosi"]95% cpu usage lol wow that must be a budget system

4Ghz Core 2 Duo is budget now?
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#94 JangoWuzHere
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[QUOTE="insanejedi"][QUOTE="steve17989"]

It may be badly optimized, but you can't deny that the PC version is the best.

steve17989

Well, at least the 360 version by contrast right now looks better and has a better framerate then what most peoples settings are right now.

The PC version on medium settings looks on par with the console versions, people can play on those settings just fine with better AA, larger draw-distance and higher resolutions. Not to mention 32 player multiplayer and the replay editor. The higher settings are what some people seem to be having trouble with, and those settings simply blow away the console versions.

actually the game on low setting is on par with consoles

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#95 JangoWuzHere
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[QUOTE="rmerri52"]Whats up Now? Well you get the broken version that's whats upsteve17989

It may be badly optimized, but you can't deny that the PC version is the best.

actually I can. the added features means nothing to me if I can't run it.
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#96 steve17989
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[QUOTE="steve17989"]

[QUOTE="rmerri52"]Whats up Now? Well you get the broken version that's whats upJangoWuzHere

It may be badly optimized, but you can't deny that the PC version is the best.

actually I can. the added features means nothing to me if I can't run it.

That's strange, why can't you?

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#97 hopesfall2own
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Why is this dude bragging about "$120 video card"? Last I checked, you also need motherboard, ram, cpu, a case, keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers, dvd drive, harddrive etc to play GTAIV on your PC, so its not just $120 now is it?
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#98 PS3_3DO
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BS. A $120 card can't max it out. I bet you say it can max out Crysis too. :roll:

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#99 PS3_3DO
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[QUOTE="insanejedi"][QUOTE="steve17989"]

It may be badly optimized, but you can't deny that the PC version is the best.

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Well, at least the 360 version by contrast right now looks better and has a better framerate then what most peoples settings are right now.

The PC version on medium settings looks on par with the console versions, people can play on those settings just fine with better AA, larger draw-distance and higher resolutions. Not to mention 32 player multiplayer and the replay editor. The higher settings are what some people seem to be having trouble with, and those settings simply blow away the console versions.

I can't believe that games like Crysis and now GTA 4 you have to wait until the hardware becomes more powerful. I bet the same thing happens for Alan Wake, Project offset. Hermits talk about DX11 like that is going to happen anytime soon least the games you can actual play.

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#100 steve17989
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[QUOTE="steve17989"][QUOTE="insanejedi"] Well, at least the 360 version by contrast right now looks better and has a better framerate then what most peoples settings are right now.PS3_3DO

The PC version on medium settings looks on par with the console versions, people can play on those settings just fine with better AA, larger draw-distance and higher resolutions. Not to mention 32 player multiplayer and the replay editor. The higher settings are what some people seem to be having trouble with, and those settings simply blow away the console versions.

I can't believe that games like Crysis and now GTA 4 you have to wait until the hardware becomes more powerful. I bet the same thing happens for Alan Wake, Project offset. Hermits talk about DX11 like that is going to happen anytime soon least the games you can actual play.

Current hardware can easily max out Crysis, and the problems with GTAIV aren't due to hardware, but awful optimization. Even if some Hermits can't play the game at max settings, they still play the game with much better and cleaner graphics than console players.