(GTA Online) Micro-transactions aren't inherently bad.

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]It meant that friends who don't play the same amount of time can viably play together on similar footings. There you go. Now, how was it harmed?1080pOnly

Yet these features used to be free.  You could do the same things with cheat codes that cost you nothing.  They exist in the game because devs use them for playtesting, it's no extra work.

It's like defending online fees.  They are there to milk you and nothing more.  

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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] It meant that friends who don't play the same amount of time can viably play together on similar footings. There you go. Now, how was it harmed?blue_hazy_basic

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Vaasman"]Unlocks take far longer than they should and are completely left to gambling.

Vaasman

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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] Yea talking about online games, microtransactions in SP are daft. If people can only play a couple of hrs and can't afford that sucks for them, what about the people who can't afford games, is it ok to pirate them? Developers have a right to make money and as long as it doesn't effect game balance I have no problems with it.blue_hazy_basic

Yes they are, yet they are right there and shoved in your face all the time while you play. Annoying.

They do effect game balance though and that's my point.  In order to make something really attractive to players it usually has to give you some advantage. Now obvisouly there are things like hats and costumes but they don't rake in the money like the 'Super-Gun-Face- pack'.

This is even worse in my book, it's designed to tap into addiction.  

I still stand by my statement that it has not improved games at all and the design philosophy only causes issues.

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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] You could buy a top pack after a couple of missions, hardly far longer.blue_hazy_basic

When did co-op online unlockables used to be free with cheat codes? And you didn't answer the question, how was the game harmed by having them?blue_hazy_basic

How is it improved by them being there? It's a cyclical argument.  You say it's good to pay for stuff to 'catch up' but I say they only designed it like that to milk you. 

Since when did online co-op (two people co-operating) have players at different 'levels' in a game with the only way to 'catch-up' being real money? Around the same time as microtransactions came into effect.

I don't remember any of the early drop in co-op games having this issue...Gears 1 and Crackdown spring to mind (prob the last two games I played co-op on console).  Now that you can milk people with microtransactions it changes the design philosophy.  

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]When did co-op online unlockables used to be free with cheat codes? And you didn't answer the question, how was the game harmed by having them?1080pOnly

How is it improved by them being there? It's a cyclical argument.  You say it's good to pay for stuff to 'catch up' but I say they only designed it like that to milk you. 

Since when did online co-op (two people co-operating) have players at different 'levels' in a game with the only way to 'catch-up' being real money? Around the same time as microtransactions came into effect.

I don't remember any of the early drop in co-op games having this issue...Gears 1 and Crackdown spring to mind (prob the last two games I played co-op on console).  Now that you can milk people with microtransactions it changes the design philosophy.  

kind of a double standard, EA has microtransactions and people freak out and all that "EA is evil" hullabaloo, Rockstar does it's okaylamprey263

I've been doing some thinking and I'm feeling more comfortable. My gameplay experience isn't going to change at all. So what if some guy runs me down in a fancy sports car and blasts me with a RPG they spent with money they got with real world cash. I would've died from them driving a crappy car and running me down or shooting me with a SMG.

Wah wah, Dead space 3 had microtransactions. Wah Wah so many games have microtransactions.

Wah...Wait.... GTA V has microtransactions? Alright this could possibly work.

Animal-Mother

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Wah wah, Dead space 3 had microtransactions. Wah Wah so many games have microtransactions.

Wah...Wait.... GTA V has microtransactions? Alright this could possibly work.

nini200

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Wah wah, Dead space 3 had microtransactions. Wah Wah so many games have microtransactions.

Wah...Wait.... GTA V has microtransactions? Alright this could possibly work.

princeofshapeir

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Rockstar fanboys are even worse than cows. 

Whenever I hear Micro transaction only mmo games comes to mind...  nd I don't see why micro transaction is need in games besides mmo

For a free game? Sure. For a game you payed £40 for? No. Piss. Off. Piss right of you greedy assholes.

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="princeofshapeir"] I've been playing single-player and it's very easy to make some real bank off heists if you do them right, and playing the stock market can make you a billionaire with minimal effort. There will be far more heists in GTA Online than in single-player; heists will be the focus of the online game. And you can do all the stock buying/selling in multiplayer. So if getting rich in single-player across three characters is pretty easy as you progress through the game, it's very reasonable to expect it to be even easier in the multiplayer. princeofshapeir

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] Again I'm glad you came back from a week in the future and played the multiplayer.Animal-Mother

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[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"] Oh okay, so you're going to be completely ignorant. Wonderful. princeofshapeir

[QUOTE="lamprey263"]kind of a double standard, EA has microtransactions and people freak out and all that "EA is evil" hullabaloo, Rockstar does it's okayheretrix

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] It's not ignorant. It's logical. You and everyone else on this board hasn't played the damn thing yet. So you have no solid ground to stand on. Why? Because YOU HAVEN'T PLAYED THE ONLINE.Animal-Mother

That really suck. it will make the game so boring and a tedious grind unless you pay. For me, grinding is the most boring part of any game

GTA fanboys are worst I have ever seen. I remember Dead Space 3 and numerous other games that had trivial micro-transactions getting cruficied, but now it is OK. I guess the entire industry worships Rockstaar and they can do no wrong though...