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#51 leandrro
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@the_master_race said:

@l0ngshot: lemme soothe your pain , Nvidia Titan X has a 12GB DDR5 memory while Xbox One has a 8GB DDR3 memory

no xbox one has about 2,5 gb available for video out of a total of 5gb for games, but the 7770 equivalent inside it can only handle textures equivalent to 1 or 1,5 gb

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There was a cow thread recently "Witcher3 downgraded again! HERMITS explain!".

Maybe the cows should explain this one.

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#53 HalcyonScarlet
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@lostrib said:

@AM-Gamer said:

@Cloud_imperium: It ran fine on consoles, in all honesty. To be honest I wouldn't be surprised if they did it to sell the PC version.

what the hell...

lol, now I've heard it all.

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#54  Edited By AM-Gamer
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@Snugenz: Its hard to see some of those differences in screenshots. The PS4 version looked leaps and bounds better then the PS3 version. When Rockstar did the new video comparing PS4/PS3/PC version I said to myself, the PS4 version looks much better then that. So they simply downgraded the PS4 version to look like it did in the comparison video. My bet is enough people will raise hell about it and they will say it is was bug and then fix it. If not I simply won't update my game.

And I think the purpose is to get some of those console gamers to double or even triple dip.

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#55 AM-Gamer
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@HalcyonScarlet: Not sure why it's so hard to believe. The game was released and reviewed well. What other reason did they have to do it?

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@AM-Gamer: It didn't run fine on consoles though. Both versions had drops below 30fps. I have it on PS4 and driving is a nightmare. (Before the update)

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#57 Snugenz
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@AM-Gamer said:

@Snugenz: Its hard to see some of those differences in screenshots. The PS4 version looked leaps and bounds better then the PS3 version. When Rockstar did the new video comparing PS4/PS3/PC version I said to myself, the PS4 version looks much better then that. So they simply downgraded the PS4 version to look like it did in the comparison video. My bet is enough people will raise hell about it and they will say it is was bug and then fix it. If not I simply won't update my game.

And I think the purpose is to get some of those console gamers to double or even triple dip.

I don't think alot of people will raise hell over it, it's a good increase to performance with a minor drop in quality. Best case scenario would be to add the option to choose between quality/fps. it's not like it's unheard of in console gaming these days e.g. Infamous SS and TLOU.

Then again @Wasdie could be spot on and it was just a big cock-up by R*.

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@FreedomFreeLife said:

Look how smooth PC version is:

Awww....all of a sudden the hermits are using console gamers joke about the beta testing.

Then they use a GTA IV gif.

Lol....thats sad.

Either way.....thats a loooooooooooong beta test if you wanna go there.

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@mr_huggles_dog said:

@FreedomFreeLife said:

Look how smooth PC version is:

Awww....all of a sudden the hermits are using console gamers joke about the beta testing.

Then they use a GTA IV gif.

Lol....thats sad.

Either way.....thats a loooooooooooong beta test if you wanna go there.

It's fine for us we have plenty to occupy us in the meantime, while console owners have indie titles and nearly nothing else

Thanks again for beta testing Mr. Salty

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#61 AM-Gamer
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@Snugenz: I'm not familiar with Infamous SS having graphical options are you talking about the frame cap?

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@AM-Gamer said:

@Snugenz: I'm not familiar with Infamous SS having graphical options are you talking about the frame cap?

Yup

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#64  Edited By Wasdie  Moderator
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@walloftruth: Most games really don't use PoM that intensively. GTA V was using it quite a bit. PoM can be very intensive depending on your GPUs. Higher end GPUs with very quick texture fill rates don't have an issue with it, but medium range and lower end GPUs can run into some serious issues with it. The PS4 and Xbox One's GPUs were more medium range when they were launched.

I'm not 100% sure these changes were intended. The performance was fine before so there is absolutely no reason to remove rendering features. This could have been a major oversight as PoM isn't something easily noticed, especially if you're not looking for it.

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@walloftruth: Yes there is, it shows the 4k assets. I can't link.from my mobile.

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@Cloud_imperium: It ran fine on consoles, in all honesty. To be honest I wouldn't be surprised if they did it to sell the PC version.

Doesn't make sense. Either they did it to improve frame rates or it's just a bug that appeared because they are toying with renderer to improve the game's quality/performance.

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#70 AM-Gamer
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@walloftruth: It was a video comparison and I saw it on SW.

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@AM-Gamer said:

@Cloud_imperium: It ran fine on consoles, in all honesty. To be honest I wouldn't be surprised if they did it to sell the PC version.

I found the hat you lost, the cat stole it

To be honest I doubt that most console gamers will even notice and that most PC gamers couldn't care less what the console version looks like

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@HalcyonScarlet: Not sure why it's so hard to believe. The game was released and reviewed well. What other reason did they have to do it?

To improve performance. It was good before, but now it's performing at a more suitable rate for the hardware.

It's not like when Ubisoft gimped Watchdogs on the PC to make consoles look more powerful than they are.

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@Liquid_ said:

@mr_huggles_dog said:

@FreedomFreeLife said:

Look how smooth PC version is:

Awww....all of a sudden the hermits are using console gamers joke about the beta testing.

Then they use a GTA IV gif.

Lol....thats sad.

Either way.....thats a loooooooooooong beta test if you wanna go there.

It's fine for us we have plenty to occupy us in the meantime, while console owners have indie titles and nearly nothing else

Thanks again for beta testing Mr. Salty

Considering it runs the way they intended on the PS3/360 and it sold the most on those systems by far....yeah...it wasn't a beta test.

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#74 Cloud_imperium
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@walloftruth said:

@AM-Gamer said:

@walloftruth: Yes there is, it shows the 4k assets. I can't link.from my mobile.

I've seen one like that, but it wasn't from Rockstar and only showed the differences between the PC screenshots, the PS4 and PS4 versions. There's nothing official on Rockstars channel or Newswire.

It was a fan video. He collected screenshots and compared them.

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@HalcyonScarlet said:

There was a cow thread recently "Witcher3 downgraded again! HERMITS explain!".

Maybe the cows should explain this one.

Not a chance! They're just happy they might be getting parity with XO in driving sequences. *slow golf clap*

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@HalcyonScarlet: Why adjust it when nobody complained and it already had excellent reviews? It ran better then the last gen console version and looked way better. It also got great reviews.

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@mr_huggles_dog said:

@FreedomFreeLife said:

Look how smooth PC version is:

Awww....all of a sudden the hermits are using console gamers joke about the beta testing.

Then they use a GTA IV gif.

Lol....thats sad.

Either way.....thats a loooooooooooong beta test if you wanna go there.

Yeah its such a shame that PC gamers have had to wait for that game. But at least we dont have it as bad as console gamers and have to wait for a worse version which has been/will be the case with such games as Crysis, Planetside 2, Minecraft, Half Life 2, Shadow Warrior, The Vanishing of Ethan Carter, Terraria, Elite Dangerous, has Arma 2 made it to 360 yet? ...so yeah, practically every single game that crosses over from PC to consoles then.

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@gamecubepad said:
@HalcyonScarlet said:

There was a cow thread recently "Witcher3 downgraded again! HERMITS explain!".

Maybe the cows should explain this one.

Not a chance! They're just happy they might be getting parity with XO in driving sequences. *slow golf clap*

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#79  Edited By AM-Gamer
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@Liquid_: PS4 owners have the best game of the generation. Not sure what you are talking about.

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@HalcyonScarlet: Why adjust it when nobody complained and it already had excellent reviews? It ran better then the last gen console version and looked way better. It also got great reviews.

Because it deserved to be the best it can be...

On consoles. ;-)

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#81  Edited By vtoshkatur
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Honestly this is probably to keep an FPS above 30fps with fewer dips below such a point. If you really care about graphics that much I suggest that you invest in a gaming PC. $400 will get you something that will outperform either of the consoles. But that shouldn't matter games are great and they all look fantastic at this point. And parallax occlusion is still a very costly effect.

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@HalcyonScarlet said:

There was a cow thread recently "Witcher3 downgraded again! HERMITS explain!".

Maybe the cows should explain this one.

we cows aren't the ones claiming superiority over something on every thread there is.

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#83  Edited By Snugenz
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@AM-Gamer said:

@Liquid_: PS4 owners have the best game of the generation. Not sure what you are talking about.

Star Citizen isn't on the PS4. So no, it doesn't...

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@Gue1 said:

@HalcyonScarlet said:

There was a cow thread recently "Witcher3 downgraded again! HERMITS explain!".

Maybe the cows should explain this one.

we cows aren't the ones claiming superiority over something on every thread there is.

You're kidding right?

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#85  Edited By Mr_Huggles_dog
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@pelvist said:

@mr_huggles_dog said:

@FreedomFreeLife said:

Look how smooth PC version is:

Awww....all of a sudden the hermits are using console gamers joke about the beta testing.

Then they use a GTA IV gif.

Lol....thats sad.

Either way.....thats a loooooooooooong beta test if you wanna go there.

Yeah its such a shame that PC gamers have had to wait for that game. But at least we dont have it as bad as console gamers and have to wait for a worse version which has been/will be the case with such games as Crysis, Planetside 2, Minecraft, Half Life 2, Shadow Warrior, The Vanishing of Ethan Carter, Terraria, Elite Dangerous, has Arma 2 made it to 360 yet? ...so yeah, practically every single game that crosses over from PC to consoles then.

Crysis, Minecraft, Half Life 2, Terraria are already on console.

Planetside 2 is coming soon....someone I was playing with last night had a beta key and said he was playing.

The others....take'em or leave'em I don't care.

All in all....thats why it's good to have your console of choice and a PC.

How them downgrading the current console version is beta testing PCs which are much more powerful....is just a desperate attempt to make waiting a year and half for the game look ok.

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@Snugenz: SC isn't out yet lmao.

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#87 Snugenz
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@AM-Gamer said:

@Snugenz: SC isn't out yet lmao.

You did say "generation", and SC will be out this gen so...

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@HalcyonScarlet said:
@Gue1 said:

@HalcyonScarlet said:

There was a cow thread recently "Witcher3 downgraded again! HERMITS explain!".

Maybe the cows should explain this one.

we cows aren't the ones claiming superiority over something on every thread there is.

You're kidding right?

Have you seen the constant posting of the hermits on this board with the "master race" and "lolconsoles".

I mean...you can use a gif to make your argument seem more viable....but it's still not true.

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@mr_huggles_dog said:

@HalcyonScarlet said:
@Gue1 said:

@HalcyonScarlet said:

There was a cow thread recently "Witcher3 downgraded again! HERMITS explain!".

Maybe the cows should explain this one.

we cows aren't the ones claiming superiority over something on every thread there is.

You're kidding right?

Have you seen the constant posting of the hermits on this board with the "master race" and "lolconsoles".

I mean...you can use a gif to make your argument seem more viable....but it's still not true.

And i'm sure he's also seen the constant posting of sony fanboys claiming superiority over others

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@lostrib said:

@mr_huggles_dog said:

@HalcyonScarlet said:
@Gue1 said:

we cows aren't the ones claiming superiority over something on every thread there is.

You're kidding right?

Have you seen the constant posting of the hermits on this board with the "master race" and "lolconsoles".

I mean...you can use a gif to make your argument seem more viable....but it's still not true.

And i'm sure he's also seen the constant posting of sony fanboys claiming superiority over others

So hermits and cows both are bad with it.

The difference is sheep and lemmings don't have really anything to brag about and the hermits don't like that the PS4 is popular....so a collective indirect bashing starts on cows/Sony/PS4....so yeah....I guess come cows defend a lot when theres a lot to defend against.

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#91 Snugenz
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@mr_huggles_dog said:

@lostrib said:

@mr_huggles_dog said:

@HalcyonScarlet said:
@Gue1 said:

we cows aren't the ones claiming superiority over something on every thread there is.

You're kidding right?

Have you seen the constant posting of the hermits on this board with the "master race" and "lolconsoles".

I mean...you can use a gif to make your argument seem more viable....but it's still not true.

And i'm sure he's also seen the constant posting of sony fanboys claiming superiority over others

So hermits and cows both are bad with it.

The difference is sheep and lemmings don't have really anything to brag about and the hermits don't like that the PS4 is popular....so a collective indirect bashing starts on cows/Sony/PS4....so yeah....I guess come cows defend a lot when theres a lot to defend against.

It's a conspiracy!!.

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@Snugenz said:

@mr_huggles_dog said:

@lostrib said:

@mr_huggles_dog said:

@HalcyonScarlet said:
@Gue1 said:

we cows aren't the ones claiming superiority over something on every thread there is.

You're kidding right?

Have you seen the constant posting of the hermits on this board with the "master race" and "lolconsoles".

I mean...you can use a gif to make your argument seem more viable....but it's still not true.

And i'm sure he's also seen the constant posting of sony fanboys claiming superiority over others

So hermits and cows both are bad with it.

The difference is sheep and lemmings don't have really anything to brag about and the hermits don't like that the PS4 is popular....so a collective indirect bashing starts on cows/Sony/PS4....so yeah....I guess come cows defend a lot when theres a lot to defend against.

It's a conspiracy!!.

I never said that.

I think it's pretty obvious.

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#93 AM-Gamer
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@Snugenz: And? It could flop for all you know. At this rate who knows when it will come.

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#94 Snugenz
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@AM-Gamer said:

@Snugenz: And? It could flop for all you know. At this rate who knows when it will come.

#toobigtofail, #believe and Soonâ„¢.

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Did someone say that this was done to sell more PC versions of the game? Well, that's the dumbest thing I've read on here today.

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#97 pelvist
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@mr_huggles_dog said:

@pelvist said:

@mr_huggles_dog said:

@FreedomFreeLife said:

Look how smooth PC version is:

Awww....all of a sudden the hermits are using console gamers joke about the beta testing.

Then they use a GTA IV gif.

Lol....thats sad.

Either way.....thats a loooooooooooong beta test if you wanna go there.

Yeah its such a shame that PC gamers have had to wait for that game. But at least we dont have it as bad as console gamers and have to wait for a worse version which has been/will be the case with such games as Crysis, Planetside 2, Minecraft, Half Life 2, Shadow Warrior, The Vanishing of Ethan Carter, Terraria, Elite Dangerous, has Arma 2 made it to 360 yet? ...so yeah, practically every single game that crosses over from PC to consoles then.

Crysis, Minecraft, Half Life 2, Terraria are already on console.

Planetside 2 is coming soon....someone I was playing with last night had a beta key and said he was playing.

The others....take'em or leave'em I don't care.

All in all....thats why it's good to have your console of choice and a PC.

How them downgrading the current console version is beta testing PCs which are much more powerful....is just a desperate attempt to make waiting a year and half for the game look ok.

My point being that console gamers see the wait PC gamers have had for the definitive version of GTAV as a massive victory against the PC platform, meanwhile console gamers have in the past and are right now sitting around waiting years (six years and counting for Arma II) for dumbed down ports of year old PC games. People in glass houses and all that.

Im not really sure why the "thanks for beta testing" remark upsets you so much, console gamers getting a taste of their own medicine is what that is.

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#98  Edited By Mr_Huggles_dog
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@pelvist said:

@mr_huggles_dog said:

@pelvist said:

@mr_huggles_dog said:

@FreedomFreeLife said:

Look how smooth PC version is:

Awww....all of a sudden the hermits are using console gamers joke about the beta testing.

Then they use a GTA IV gif.

Lol....thats sad.

Either way.....thats a loooooooooooong beta test if you wanna go there.

Yeah its such a shame that PC gamers have had to wait for that game. But at least we dont have it as bad as console gamers and have to wait for a worse version which has been/will be the case with such games as Crysis, Planetside 2, Minecraft, Half Life 2, Shadow Warrior, The Vanishing of Ethan Carter, Terraria, Elite Dangerous, has Arma 2 made it to 360 yet? ...so yeah, practically every single game that crosses over from PC to consoles then.

Crysis, Minecraft, Half Life 2, Terraria are already on console.

Planetside 2 is coming soon....someone I was playing with last night had a beta key and said he was playing.

The others....take'em or leave'em I don't care.

All in all....thats why it's good to have your console of choice and a PC.

How them downgrading the current console version is beta testing PCs which are much more powerful....is just a desperate attempt to make waiting a year and half for the game look ok.

My point being that console gamers see the wait PC gamers have had for the definitive version of GTAV as a massive victory against the PC platform, meanwhile console gamers have in the past and are right now sitting around waiting years (six years and counting for Arma II) for dumbed down ports of year old PC games. People in glass houses and all that.

Im not really sure why the "thanks for beta testing" remark upsets you so much, console gamers getting a taste of their own medicine is what that is.

It upsets me b/c I'm an emotional person....ever since my pet hermit crab died....I've never been the same.

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#99 pelvist
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@mr_huggles_dog: Ok, well im sorry to hear about your crab. Chin up!

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#100 gamecubepad
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@Gue1 said:

we cows aren't the ones claiming superiority over something on every thread there is.

Oh really? Let's keep that in mind for any future posts. You hear that, cows? No more posting about supremacy in any thread otherwise it would be hypocritical.

@mr_huggles_dog said:

It upsets me b/c I'm an emotional person....ever since my pet hermit crab died....I've never been sane.

Agreed.