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#51 6matt6
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GTA's physics blow crysis away. Besides the lack of destructible enviroments, the ragdoll system is revolutionary.Relys

i sure hope you was being sarcastic to tick him off.

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#52 tmatte
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But it would look like crysis on the pc, right?
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#53 Arjdagr8
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[QUOTE="Relys"]GTA's physics blow crysis away. Besides the lack of destructible enviroments, the ragdoll system is revolutionary.6matt6

i sure hope you was being sarcastic to tick him off.

i think hes talking about the euphoria engine where the ragdolls have that motor nervous system or something. so they react to the environment and stuff.

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#54 Saturos3091
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[QUOTE="LordoftheVacas"]Captain Obvious is sand box game.. what else you expect?...Painballz

Crysis is a sanbox game, and its WAY beyond game out today, in graphics and physics



Too bad it's way behind in several other aspects, such as art direction and story.

GTAIV has decent graphics. They're nothing special. The physics though are quite quirky and need a look at.
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#55 tmatte
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[QUOTE="6matt6"]

[QUOTE="Relys"]GTA's physics blow crysis away. Besides the lack of destructible enviroments, the ragdoll system is revolutionary.Arjdagr8

i sure hope you was being sarcastic to tick him off.

i think hes talking about the euphoria engine where the ragdolls have that motor nervous system or something. so they react to the environment and stuff.

Yeah, naturalmotion has awesome ragdoll-to-animation transitions.

Made this in my first day using endorphin, where you can mess around with that stuff. Not too great, but I'm a noob to animation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeI2UTokGXM

And for the record, GTA IV's physics don't hold a candle to Crysis's

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#56 Relys
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[QUOTE="Arjdagr8"][QUOTE="6matt6"]

[QUOTE="Relys"]GTA's physics blow crysis away. Besides the lack of destructible enviroments, the ragdoll system is revolutionary.tmatte

i sure hope you was being sarcastic to tick him off.

i think hes talking about the euphoria engine where the ragdolls have that motor nervous system or something. so they react to the environment and stuff.

Yeah, naturalmotion has awesome ragdoll-to-animation transitions.

Made this in my first day using endorphin, where you can mess around with that stuff. Not too great, but fun to mess around with.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeI2UTokGXM

And for the record, GTA IV's physics don't hold a candle to Crysis's

I'm talking about Endorphia.

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#58 LordoftheVacas
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GTA's physics blow crysis away. Besides the lack of destructible enviroments, the ragdoll system is revolutionary.Relys


GTA IV doesnt use ragdolls.
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#59 _ADIVA_
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Why dont people realize that you cannot compare graphics of games that are totally different genres?

It's like complaining a MMO's graphics against say a fighting game, that's not even remotely logical..

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#60 BioShockOwnz
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Even Saints Row looked better than GTA4. Gamer556

Um, no it doesn't.

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#61 inertk
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Graphics are amazing, massive environments, brilliant effects, flowing water, great animation, excellent lighting and modelling - especially environments and cars. Most importantly, it's got the atmosphere nailed.
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#62 Painballz
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GTA's physics blow crysis away. Besides the lack of destructible enviroments, the ragdoll system is revolutionary.Relys

You haven't played Crysis with VERY HIGH PHYSICS enabled

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#63 lettuceman44
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Jesus, Hermit damage control now?

AAAA. Just accept it. Maybe it'll come out on the PC in 6 months or so.

z_gaming_master

eh, don't let this guy be the representative of hermits.

Even we are sick of him...

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#64 gohan2710
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jealous much? AAAA....get over it
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#65 WWIAB
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Eh, for what it is, the graphics are amazing, don't expect Crysis level graphics in a world this open and large and on consoles. Stop being a graphics whore. rolo107

the graphics do a great job of creating a gritty, rough looking world, the OP is obviously blind, I have played it in SD and 1080i HD, the graphics look great either way

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#66 ChiddaPotta
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[QUOTE="stvee101"][QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="Painballz"]

[QUOTE="LordoftheVacas"]Captain Obvious is sand box game.. what else you expect?...Painballz

Crysis is a sanbox game, and its WAY beyond game out today, in graphics and physics

I wish Crysis was as much fun to play.

I second that.

You never played Crysis

You never played GTA IV

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#67 Marka1700
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Im sick of this guy making hermits look bad.
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#68 shearMario
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I have played GTA4 on 360 at my brothers and PS3 at my mates both on HDTV's, the game looked like a jagged mess on the PS3 but had less pop in also it was very dark in the black areas, not sure whether these were down to a poor TV or bad settings though.

On 360 the pop-in was more noticable but it looked cleaner, bright and I was able to see all the nice detail as the dark areas were brighter, again I'm not sure if this was down to the TV but the 360 version looked better from what I saw. It seems as though the 360 version was running at a higher resolution.

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#69 lawlessx
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gone for nearly 2 weeks...nothing has changed.

still the same fanboy's posting the same fanboyish threads just to gain fame and a bigger ego.

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#70 vash47
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Jesus, Hermit damage control now?

AAAA. Just accept it. Maybe it'll come out on the PC in 6 months or so.

z_gaming_master

Why the **** do you label PC gamers according to this guy?

Please don't be ignorant.

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#71 vash47
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[QUOTE="Painballz"][QUOTE="stvee101"][QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="Painballz"]

[QUOTE="LordoftheVacas"]Captain Obvious is sand box game.. what else you expect?...ChiddaPotta

Crysis is a sanbox game, and its WAY beyond game out today, in graphics and physics

I wish Crysis was as much fun to play.

I second that.

You never played Crysis

You never played GTA IV

Oh stop it, you three.

They are both awesome games, anybody stating the opposite is just a fanboy.

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#72 InsaneBasura
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Graphics are amazing, massive environments, brilliant effects, flowing water, great animation, excellent lighting and modelling - especially environments and cars. Most importantly, it's got the atmosphere nailed. inertk

The water is the one thing that truly does look great technically. The reflections, refractions, waves etc. And apart from all the things you mentioned, the draw distance is rather epic as well. The art direction is mostly great too. The attention to detail. It's a beautiful game.

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#73 insanejedi
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You realize that GTA 4 is more of an artistic achivement then the technical achivement of the game that will eventually become obsolete which is Crysis. If anything that will be Crysis 2.
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#74 AIH_PSP
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The graphics in supposedly HD, look terrible, Jaggies everywhere, low res textures, and the list goes on.

The only thing I praise it for are PRETTY good physics, (I said pretty good because Crysis blows it away in physics.

GTA in SD, looks like a last gen game, no joke.

So yea....GTA has Bad Graphics.

Painballz
360 version?
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#75 kyacat
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Okay Iam not gta4 fan but the graphics look awesome and should it be about the gameplay in gta4 not the graphics?
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[QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="Painballz"]

[QUOTE="LordoftheVacas"]Captain Obvious is sand box game.. what else you expect?...Painballz

Crysis is a sanbox game, and its WAY beyond game out today, in graphics and physics

I wish Crysis was as much fun to play.

According, to gamespot, Crysis is one of the best FPS ever made, so yea.

It is fun to play, play it and then talk (which I know you haven't)

According, to gamespot, GTA4 is one of the best GAMES ever made, so yea. ;)
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#77 lowe0
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There are villages, and rivers throughout the maps in Crysis, but....o wait, you never played

Painballz

Standard Painballz - anyone who doesn't agree with you must be lying. Yes, I finished the game. As I recall, coming out of the spaceship in Paradise Lost, you make an immediate right turn, and the path curves around to the left. About halfway down, a shotgun and FY71 are sitting near some rocks and debris. Follow the path further down and to the left, and two aliens will be dropped in by a larger alien.

Want some other parts described? Don't EVER call me a liar again - EVER.

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#78 dark-warmachine
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Captain Obvious is sand box game.. what else you expect?...LordoftheVacas

exactly, This is a stupid topic

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#79 silence790
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I actually enjoyed the graphics, I think they're really nice.
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#80 Corvin
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Considering the size and scope of the game I actually think it has some of the best console graphics so far this generation.
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#82 the_ChEeSe_mAn2
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This guy definately gives hermits a bad name. GTA 4's graphics look amazing for the scope of the game and in terms of how much is happening on screen.
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#83 Senor_Kami
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I agree. I think people are crazy for saying its looks amazing. I think technically its probably doing some cool stuff simply because of the scope of the game, but I've never seen anything that looks as good as any screenshot i've seen posted.

But really I think the whole game is over-rated. I think that events painted Rockstar as some prosecuted saviour (Hot Coffee) that was down on its luck (poor financial performance for years between GTA games) and persecuted by the blinded masses (Manhunt 2). They were willing to sacrifice themselves for freedom of speech and games as art (Manhunt 2... despite that the game sucked) so gamers and gaming press admired them. They released a game that was good and now I think they are reaping praise that has nothing little to do with the game that was actually released.

One person gave it a 10/10 and everyone followed suit. I mean, Rockstar represents gaming. They sacrificed themselves for mankind and stood against the evil Empire... that in itself is worth 12/10. Similar to how someone might say, "Michael Jackson is a child molester? Yeah right. Thriller is the best album ever." or "R. Kelly has sex with 14 year olds? Yeah right, I Believe I Can Fly is one of the best songs ever." GTA4's review scores all seem to be heavily inlfuenced from past achievement rather than the actual game in question.

GTA4 = San Andreas with better physics that don't really make anything relating to gameplay better, improved fighting/shooting that brings it up to the level of a PS1 quality action games from a decade ago, and updated graphics that still somehow look worse than all the other games released on the console (which is the GTA trend that started all the way back with the top down versions).

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#84 heretrix
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[QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="Painballz"]

[QUOTE="LordoftheVacas"]Captain Obvious is sand box game.. what else you expect?...Painballz

Crysis is a sanbox game, and its WAY beyond game out today, in graphics and physics

I wish Crysis was as much fun to play.

According, to gamespot, Crysis is one of the best FPS ever made, so yea.

It is fun to play, play it and then talk (which I know you haven't)

If I prove that I have it will you promise to never post in system wars ever again? I mean since you know for a fact that I have never played Crysis.. I have posted my setup here before. I have a quad core PC with a 8800gt.

I don't talk about games I haven't played.It's not how I roll.

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#85 heretrix
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I agree. I think people are crazy for saying its looks amazing. I think technically its probably doing some cool stuff simply because of the scope of the game, but I've never seen anything that looks as good as any screenshot i've seen posted.

But really I think the whole game is over-rated. I think that events painted Rockstar as some prosecuted saviour (Hot Coffee) that was down on its luck (poor financial performance for years between GTA games) and persecuted by the blinded masses (Manhunt 2). They were willing to sacrifice themselves for freedom of speech and games as art (Manhunt 2... despite that the game sucked) so gamers and gaming press admired them. They released a game that was good and now I think they are reaping praise that has nothing little to do with the game that was actually released.

One person gave it a 10/10 and everyone followed suit. I mean, Rockstar represents gaming. They sacrificed themselves for mankind and stood against the evil Empire... that in itself is worth 12/10. Similar to how someone might say, "Michael Jackson is a child molester? Yeah right. Thriller is the best album ever." or "R. Kelly has sex with 14 year olds? Yeah right, I Believe I Can Fly is one of the best songs ever." GTA4's review scores all seem to be heavily inlfuenced from past achievement rather than the actual game in question.

GTA4 = San Andreas with better physics that don't really make anything relating to gameplay better, improved fighting/shooting that brings it up to the level of a PS1 quality action games from a decade ago, and updated graphics that still somehow look worse than all the other games released on the console (which is the GTA trend that started all the way back with the top down versions).

Senor_Kami

What makes your opinion better than all of the people that gave it a 10? You are dwelling on the score too much. the game has been reviewed, it scored a 10, complaining about it is just sour grapes. Let it go for god sakes, you aren't changing anybody's mind that likes it and agrees with the score.

I don't think OOT ever deserved a 10, but you know what? A lot of people thought it did and my opinion doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. I don't complain about it because I understand that a game review is just an opinion. And sometimes I'm not going to agree with it.

Give it a rest.

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#86 Painballz
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[QUOTE="Painballz"]

There are villages, and rivers throughout the maps in Crysis, but....o wait, you never played

lowe0

Standard Painballz - anyone who doesn't agree with you must be lying. Yes, I finished the game. As I recall, coming out of the spaceship in Paradise Lost, you make an immediate right turn, and the path curves around to the left. About halfway down, a shotgun and FY71 are sitting near some rocks and debris. Follow the path further down and to the left, and two aliens will be dropped in by a larger alien.

Want some other parts described? Don't EVER call me a liar again - EVER.

Liar, you read that off gamefaqs

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#87 Painballz
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I agree. I think people are crazy for saying its looks amazing. I think technically its probably doing some cool stuff simply because of the scope of the game, but I've never seen anything that looks as good as any screenshot i've seen posted.

But really I think the whole game is over-rated. I think that events painted Rockstar as some prosecuted saviour (Hot Coffee) that was down on its luck (poor financial performance for years between GTA games) and persecuted by the blinded masses (Manhunt 2). They were willing to sacrifice themselves for freedom of speech and games as art (Manhunt 2... despite that the game sucked) so gamers and gaming press admired them. They released a game that was good and now I think they are reaping praise that has nothing little to do with the game that was actually released.

One person gave it a 10/10 and everyone followed suit. I mean, Rockstar represents gaming. They sacrificed themselves for mankind and stood against the evil Empire... that in itself is worth 12/10. Similar to how someone might say, "Michael Jackson is a child molester? Yeah right. Thriller is the best album ever." or "R. Kelly has sex with 14 year olds? Yeah right, I Believe I Can Fly is one of the best songs ever." GTA4's review scores all seem to be heavily inlfuenced from past achievement rather than the actual game in question.

GTA4 = San Andreas with better physics that don't really make anything relating to gameplay better, improved fighting/shooting that brings it up to the level of a PS1 quality action games from a decade ago, and updated graphics that still somehow look worse than all the other games released on the console (which is the GTA trend that started all the way back with the top down versions).

Senor_Kami

agreed

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#88 Toriko42
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PC fanboys always compare Crysis to a console game, you're a joke