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Playstation 6 - November 2027

  • $699
  • 70 Tflops AMD GPU
  • 24GBs GDDR7 (GPU)
  • 4GBs DDR5 (System)
  • 2TB SSD (with extra SSD expansion slot)
  • 8 core Zen 7 CPU
  • Dual Sense 2 w/ LiDAR sensor
  • 2x USB & 1x USB-C port
  • Optional external 4K Disc Drive. Not built into any model

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@DarthaPerkinjan: Any links to this bold claimed?

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Pentium II 600Mhz

64MB ram

Sound Blaster sound card

Voodoo II GPU 12MB

32X CD rom

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@xbox7204life said:

Pentium II 600Mhz

64MB ram

Sound Blaster sound card

Voodoo II GPU 12MB

32X CD rom

Seriously, that was like my perfect late 90's build. Gotta have that Sound Blaster, too.

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PlayStation 4 to PlayStation 5 really shows the law of diminishing returns is kicking in hard at this point. I don't think it really matters all that much at this point what the next specs are.

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If it does RTX 6080 level performance at 499 I am a day one buyer heck I will preorder.

But I doubt sony gonna do a powerful console considering their main competitor xbox been so ass at hardware.

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All consoles will go backwards and have weaker specs, with components used for 90's and early 2000's gaming.

So all developers can stop spending money on irrelevant nonsense like ray-tracing. & instead spend that time on the game, game design is what should always take priority and how it will feel to play. Making the best games possible.

Your 8K visuals never made a single game better. Or ever will.

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@mrbojangles25 said:
@xbox7204life said:

Pentium II 600Mhz

64MB ram

Sound Blaster sound card

Voodoo II GPU 12MB

32X CD rom

Seriously, that was like my perfect late 90's build. Gotta have that Sound Blaster, too.

Late 90's through early mid 2000's was the true golden era of PC gaming.

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@sakaixx: It won’t have the performance of an RTX 6080.

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@Juub1990 said:

@sakaixx: It won’t have the performance of an RTX 6080.

I guess you never heard of the emotion engine.😏

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#11  Edited By Last_Lap
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@davillain said:

@DarthaPerkinjan: Any links to this bold claimed?

To be fair he does say "guess" the specs and he did that.

I won't guess the specs, i'll guess they won't have disk drives.

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Not really going to guess solid specs as we don't have a release date or anything.

I think the theme though will be "enabling" technologies. Stuff to just make devs lives easier. Any jump in raster performance will be fairly small. Maybe 2X the PS5 Pro in pure raster. But there will be a big push for RT and AI performance so the devs can lean on those technologies more. One of the notes from this gen is devs are very slow to take up new toys. Low level stuff like mesh shaders is by and large being ignored, even 5 years into this gen. So I suspect there will be very little in the way of brand new tech and more just "take what devs do now and make it go brrrr".

It's pretty much confirmed that Sony are going with AMD again. However I just have a feeling that MS will go with Intel for their next console...maybe their handheld too. Intel are hungry for business at the moment in custom chip design so they and MS, I think, will work out a deal.

Both consoles will feature an NPU also I suspect. Everything is NPUs now. They are the new hawtness. MS will definitely have it because they are all in on AI and Sony will have it because MS will have it. It could be the most interesting part of the spec too on both systems.....Also possibly complete nafness (recall on consoles...woohoo?).

Funnily enough, the chips for both consoles may also be fabbed at Intel. There are mutterings that their 18A process is looking good and they have solved some major problems. They are not TSMC good but getting to a point where they would be suitable for a next gen console. I think consumer Electronics in general is going to be pushed off TSMCs latest and greatest unless there is a major downturn in the AI boom. At the moment companies will pay 10K for a 5090 class GPU, not to mention the higher end data center stuff. Companies just can't justify setting aside that silicon for a console that cost's less than 1.5K.

Also they will be pricey. Starting out at $600 bucks I suspect.

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#13  Edited By Grey_Eyed_Elf
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Unfortunately we hit a wall with TDP due to the dies of the APU's and GPU's consisting of RT/AI cores.

Also they use unified memory for a reason its faster, so they will not have separate RAM vs VRAM.

IF consoles get release 2027 they would need to be in production by the end of the year meaning the hardware would be what we already have due to pricing, yields and production... So I will play along with that rule set.

PS6
RAM20 GB GDDR7
PROCESSORZen 5 10 core 20 thread
STORAGE1 TB NVME GEN4
GPU80 CU RDNA 4
Price$649

The TFLOPS are based on the core clocks and power delivery, its why the PS5 Pro has 64 CU but is at 16TFLOPS but a RX 9070 XT is 64 CU but is at 48 TFLOPS.

A 70 TFLOP GPU on a APU?... Would be a 400-500w system, meaning you would need a 600w PSU.

Expect 80 CU's on a APU for a 200-300w power delivery to be around 28-34 TFLOPS.

Similar to PS4 pro vs PS5... Its a 2x jump in TFLOPS, but newer architecture and more performance per W from CPU and GPU.

I was right with my PS5/XSX estimates also... Its rather predictable, consoles take 1 year to mass produce and 1 year of working along side the APU development and they have limits on size, power draw and price. So if it releases in 2027 it means they are developing now meaning what we have now is what they will use and they are stuck with the TDP of the hardware available RDNA 4 and Zen 5 APU at 350-400w PSU meaning they will have to draw at 70% of that total PSU for longevity and stability so a 200-300w power draw.

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Gen 10:

Switch 2:

https://www.nintendo.com/us/gaming-systems/switch-2/tech-specs/?srsltid=AfmBOooXv_mwxlyGRvm-tHnM39v-CY5yFn_ay7wJogwihyL6KIk7p9AY

Xbox Next:

(November 2026):

  • $699
  • 1 system (no more Series S)
  • Windows OS with Xbox emulation
  • 3TB SSD and expansion slot
  • Xbox Universal Controller (Sebile)
  • 3x USB-C port
  • No disc drive

PS6 (I will put your info here as I don't know anything about hardware specs):

  • $699
  • 70 Tflops AMD GPU
  • 24GBs GDDR7 (GPU)
  • 4GBs DDR5 (System)
  • 2TB SSD (with extra SSD expansion slot)
  • 8 core Zen 7 CPU
  • Dual Sense 2
  • 3 x USB-C port
  • Optional external 4K Disc Drive. Not built into any model

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#15  Edited By Elderlord99
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@Grey_Eyed_Elf said:

Unfortunately we hit a wall with TDP due to the dies of the APU's and GPU's consisting of RT/AI cores.

Also they use unified memory for a reason its faster, so they will not have separate RAM vs VRAM.

IF consoles get release 2027 they would need to be in production by the end of the year meaning the hardware would be what we already have due to pricing, yields and production... So I will play along with that rule set.

PS6
RAM20 GB GDDR7
PROCESSORZen 5 10 core 20 thread
STORAGE1 TB NVME GEN4
GPU80 CU RDNA 4
Price$649

The TFLOPS are based on the core clocks and power delivery, its why the PS5 Pro has 64 CU but is at 16TFLOPS but a RX 9070 XT is 64 CU but is at 48 TFLOPS.

A 70 TFLOP GPU on a APU?... Would be a 400-500w system, meaning you would need a 600w PSU.

Expect 80 CU's on a APU for a 200-300w power delivery to be around 28-34 TFLOPS.

Similar to PS4 pro vs PS5... Its a 2x jump in TFLOPS, but newer architecture and more performance per W from CPU and GPU.

I was right with my PS5/XSX estimates also... Its rather predictable, consoles take 1 year to mass produce and 1 year of working along side the APU development and they have limits on size, power draw and price. So if it releases in 2027 it means they are developing now meaning what we have now is what they will use and they are stuck with the TDP of the hardware available RDNA 4 and Zen 5 APU at 350-400w PSU meaning they will have to draw at 70% of that total PSU for longevity and stability so a 200-300w power draw.

Leaks have already said the GPU will be using UDNA which is the gen ahead of RDNA4.

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@Juub1990 said:

@sakaixx: It won’t have the performance of an RTX 6080.

I'm fairly certain it won't even touch the power of a 4090. Maybe 4070 Ti/7900 xt at best.

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#17  Edited By Grey_Eyed_Elf
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@elderlord99 said:
@Grey_Eyed_Elf said:

Unfortunately we hit a wall with TDP due to the dies of the APU's and GPU's consisting of RT/AI cores.

Also they use unified memory for a reason its faster, so they will not have separate RAM vs VRAM.

IF consoles get release 2027 they would need to be in production by the end of the year meaning the hardware would be what we already have due to pricing, yields and production... So I will play along with that rule set.

PS6
RAM20 GB GDDR7
PROCESSORZen 5 10 core 20 thread
STORAGE1 TB NVME GEN4
GPU80 CU RDNA 4
Price$649

The TFLOPS are based on the core clocks and power delivery, its why the PS5 Pro has 64 CU but is at 16TFLOPS but a RX 9070 XT is 64 CU but is at 48 TFLOPS.

A 70 TFLOP GPU on a APU?... Would be a 400-500w system, meaning you would need a 600w PSU.

Expect 80 CU's on a APU for a 200-300w power delivery to be around 28-34 TFLOPS.

Similar to PS4 pro vs PS5... Its a 2x jump in TFLOPS, but newer architecture and more performance per W from CPU and GPU.

I was right with my PS5/XSX estimates also... Its rather predictable, consoles take 1 year to mass produce and 1 year of working along side the APU development and they have limits on size, power draw and price. So if it releases in 2027 it means they are developing now meaning what we have now is what they will use and they are stuck with the TDP of the hardware available RDNA 4 and Zen 5 APU at 350-400w PSU meaning they will have to draw at 70% of that total PSU for longevity and stability so a 200-300w power draw.

Leaks have already said the GPU will be using UDNA which is the gen ahead of RDNA4.

Leaks said a PS5 would have 20TFLOPS and have a 2TB SSD.

Leaks over estimate, always.

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#18  Edited By Elderlord99
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@Grey_Eyed_Elf said:
@elderlord99 said:
@Grey_Eyed_Elf said:

Unfortunately we hit a wall with TDP due to the dies of the APU's and GPU's consisting of RT/AI cores.

Also they use unified memory for a reason its faster, so they will not have separate RAM vs VRAM.

IF consoles get release 2027 they would need to be in production by the end of the year meaning the hardware would be what we already have due to pricing, yields and production... So I will play along with that rule set.

PS6
RAM20 GB GDDR7
PROCESSORZen 5 10 core 20 thread
STORAGE1 TB NVME GEN4
GPU80 CU RDNA 4
Price$649

The TFLOPS are based on the core clocks and power delivery, its why the PS5 Pro has 64 CU but is at 16TFLOPS but a RX 9070 XT is 64 CU but is at 48 TFLOPS.

A 70 TFLOP GPU on a APU?... Would be a 400-500w system, meaning you would need a 600w PSU.

Expect 80 CU's on a APU for a 200-300w power delivery to be around 28-34 TFLOPS.

Similar to PS4 pro vs PS5... Its a 2x jump in TFLOPS, but newer architecture and more performance per W from CPU and GPU.

I was right with my PS5/XSX estimates also... Its rather predictable, consoles take 1 year to mass produce and 1 year of working along side the APU development and they have limits on size, power draw and price. So if it releases in 2027 it means they are developing now meaning what we have now is what they will use and they are stuck with the TDP of the hardware available RDNA 4 and Zen 5 APU at 350-400w PSU meaning they will have to draw at 70% of that total PSU for longevity and stability so a 200-300w power draw.

Leaks have already said the GPU will be using UDNA which is the gen ahead of RDNA4.

Leaks said a PS5 would have 20TFLOPS and have a 2TB SSD.

Leaks over estimate, always.

I'm not sure what leak you are referring too but the leaks I recalled routinely said 9 Tflops and it ended up being 10.2, So NO... leaks do not always over estimate.

The PS5 was roughly equivalent to a 5700xt with extra RT abilities. That card came out 1 year before the PS5 so what logic are you using to think a console coming out two to three years from now would be using current hardware?

They are going to start fabricating the chips at the end of the year so it's pretty much confirmed to be using UDNA.

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@Grey_Eyed_Elf said:
@elderlord99 said:
@Grey_Eyed_Elf said:

Unfortunately we hit a wall with TDP due to the dies of the APU's and GPU's consisting of RT/AI cores.

Also they use unified memory for a reason its faster, so they will not have separate RAM vs VRAM.

IF consoles get release 2027 they would need to be in production by the end of the year meaning the hardware would be what we already have due to pricing, yields and production... So I will play along with that rule set.

PS6
RAM20 GB GDDR7
PROCESSORZen 5 10 core 20 thread
STORAGE1 TB NVME GEN4
GPU80 CU RDNA 4
Price$649

The TFLOPS are based on the core clocks and power delivery, its why the PS5 Pro has 64 CU but is at 16TFLOPS but a RX 9070 XT is 64 CU but is at 48 TFLOPS.

A 70 TFLOP GPU on a APU?... Would be a 400-500w system, meaning you would need a 600w PSU.

Expect 80 CU's on a APU for a 200-300w power delivery to be around 28-34 TFLOPS.

Similar to PS4 pro vs PS5... Its a 2x jump in TFLOPS, but newer architecture and more performance per W from CPU and GPU.

I was right with my PS5/XSX estimates also... Its rather predictable, consoles take 1 year to mass produce and 1 year of working along side the APU development and they have limits on size, power draw and price. So if it releases in 2027 it means they are developing now meaning what we have now is what they will use and they are stuck with the TDP of the hardware available RDNA 4 and Zen 5 APU at 350-400w PSU meaning they will have to draw at 70% of that total PSU for longevity and stability so a 200-300w power draw.

Leaks have already said the GPU will be using UDNA which is the gen ahead of RDNA4.

Leaks said a PS5 would have 20TFLOPS and have a 2TB SSD.

Leaks over estimate, always.

^this

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Why?

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1 Billion flops. :P

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@elderlord99 said:
@Grey_Eyed_Elf said:
@elderlord99 said:
@Grey_Eyed_Elf said:

Unfortunately we hit a wall with TDP due to the dies of the APU's and GPU's consisting of RT/AI cores.

Also they use unified memory for a reason its faster, so they will not have separate RAM vs VRAM.

IF consoles get release 2027 they would need to be in production by the end of the year meaning the hardware would be what we already have due to pricing, yields and production... So I will play along with that rule set.

PS6
RAM20 GB GDDR7
PROCESSORZen 5 10 core 20 thread
STORAGE1 TB NVME GEN4
GPU80 CU RDNA 4
Price$649

The TFLOPS are based on the core clocks and power delivery, its why the PS5 Pro has 64 CU but is at 16TFLOPS but a RX 9070 XT is 64 CU but is at 48 TFLOPS.

A 70 TFLOP GPU on a APU?... Would be a 400-500w system, meaning you would need a 600w PSU.

Expect 80 CU's on a APU for a 200-300w power delivery to be around 28-34 TFLOPS.

Similar to PS4 pro vs PS5... Its a 2x jump in TFLOPS, but newer architecture and more performance per W from CPU and GPU.

I was right with my PS5/XSX estimates also... Its rather predictable, consoles take 1 year to mass produce and 1 year of working along side the APU development and they have limits on size, power draw and price. So if it releases in 2027 it means they are developing now meaning what we have now is what they will use and they are stuck with the TDP of the hardware available RDNA 4 and Zen 5 APU at 350-400w PSU meaning they will have to draw at 70% of that total PSU for longevity and stability so a 200-300w power draw.

Leaks have already said the GPU will be using UDNA which is the gen ahead of RDNA4.

Leaks said a PS5 would have 20TFLOPS and have a 2TB SSD.

Leaks over estimate, always.

I'm not sure what leak you are referring too but the leaks I recalled routinely said 9 Tflops and it ended up being 10.2, So NO... leaks do not always over estimate.

The PS5 was roughly equivalent to a 5700xt with extra RT abilities. That card came out 1 year before the PS5 so what logic are you using to think a console coming out two to three years from now would be using current hardware?

They are going to start fabricating the chips at the end of the year so it's pretty much confirmed to be using UDNA.

The were many rumours of the devkits for PS5 and PS5 coming in with 20 Tflop Navi chips, that fanboys ran with I was here.

As for UDNA?...

YOU do realise when they develop for consoles its never just a off the shelf item?... Custom.

Read the article:

So let’s break down what has actually happened. Reputable AMD leaker Kepler L2 talked about how the system on a chip (SoC) for PS6 is “design complete,” and is in “pre-silicon validation” ready for “A0 tapeout” late this year.

On top of that, the same leaker dropped some details on the GPU too, as the architecture of the PS6 will be a spin-off of AMD’s gfx13. This was originally known as RDNA 5, but is now named UDNA for its unified structure on the chip itself.

You see its too to being on the table to make use of all the UDNA architecture that will be available as its still in development happens with every console as their development is always between PC hardware generations:

To break that down, the PS5 Pro uses a mix of RDNA 2 architecture with some elements from RDNA 3 and 4 backported to help with ray-tracing and PlayStation Spectral Super Resolution (PSSR) AI frame generation.

I will go with RDNA 4 as the base architecture for the GPU if its releasing 2027 and has been officially stamped. The leak it self says SPIN-OFF of AMD's gfx13... They will probably just use the technology enhancement's of UDNA like better FSR(PSSR) and ray tracing.

Like I said people take leaks, don't read and run with it. Like when they take TFLOPS and RAM rumours from dev kits.

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#23  Edited By GhostOfGolden
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For a generational leap worth a damn, they better hold off on new consoles for another 5 years. Minimum (handhelds don’t count)

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#24  Edited By TheEroica  Moderator
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Definitely $700 plus...

Definitely 80 dollar games....

Definitely rising service costs....

Definitely rising budgets....

Definitely digital in the drivers seat...

Definitely more remakes/remastered...

Definitely diminishing returns running wild due to lack of innovation.

We need a Renaissance...

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@TheEroica said:

Definitely $700 plus...

Definitely 80 dollar games....

Definitely rising service costs....

Definitely rising budgets....

Definitely digital in the drivers seat...

Definitely more remakes/remastered...

Definitely diminishing returns running wild due to lack of innovation.

Translation = pay much more for much less. 🙃

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@Pedro said:
@TheEroica said:

Definitely $700 plus...

Definitely 80 dollar games....

Definitely rising service costs....

Definitely rising budgets....

Definitely digital in the drivers seat...

Definitely more remakes/remastered...

Definitely diminishing returns running wild due to lack of innovation.

Translation = pay much more for much less. 🙃

But... But...... B..... Sigh.

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@TheEroica said:

Definitely $700 plus...

Definitely 80 dollar games....

Definitely rising service costs....

Definitely rising budgets....

Definitely digital in the drivers seat...

Definitely more remakes/remastered...

Definitely diminishing returns running wild due to lack of innovation.

We need a Renaissance...

The Renaissance is already here!

In all seriousness, if you do get this platform, I would highly recommend the game "Full Void".

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They'll be mid to low spec PC's. Just like all consoles are.

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@TheEroica said:

Definitely $700 plus...

Definitely 80 dollar games....

Definitely rising service costs....

Definitely rising budgets....

Definitely digital in the drivers seat...

Definitely more remakes/remastered...

Definitely diminishing returns running wild due to lack of innovation.

We need a Renaissance...

80?...

Expect $90-100.

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It depends on whether the tariff to China is still there, especially if you want to put Lidar in Dual Sense 2

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@Grey_Eyed_Elf:

The were many rumours of the devkits for PS5 and PS5 coming in with 20 Tflop Navi chips, that fanboys ran with I was here.

As for UDNA?...

YOU do realise when they develop for consoles its never just a off the shelf item?... Custom.

Read the article:

I'm not talking about random bullshit from reddit I am talking about reputable sources. Keplerl2 is a reliable source who actually data mines real info. He leaked the 9 tflops based off the GPU he found they were using. What he didn't expect is Sony over clocked the shit out of it to get to 10.2

@Grey_Eyed_Elf

I will go with RDNA 4 as the base architecture for the GPU if its releasing 2027 and has been officially stamped. The leak it self says SPIN-OFF of AMD's gfx13... They will probably just use the technology enhancement's of UDNA like better FSR(PSSR) and ray tracing.

Like I said people take leaks, don't read and run with it. Like when they take TFLOPS and RAM rumours from dev kits.

I would agree with you if it was coming out next year but it isn't. I expect AMD to unveil UDNA by early next year and that will probably give you an idea of what's in the PS6. Sony is also in an R&D agreement with AMD so I expect they will get access to the tech sooner. I expect the PS6 to outperform AMD's current high end gpu.

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@miquella said:

It depends on whether the tariff to China is still there, especially if you want to put Lidar in Dual Sense 2

If it is Sony will move most their production factories to other countries most likely.