This "hack" has been mis-represented. From the mouths of the hackers themselves:
I wouldn't worry too much about LulzSec performing any theft on Nintendo user databases.
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1- not investing in security 2- hiring lazy devs that can't even sanitize their websites from sql injection. 3- allowing anyone to reset your password by just knowing your email and birthdate. shall I go on? or those would do? Does weren't really valid points into why Hackers are mad at them. who says those were points to why hackers are mad at them? those were points to why it's SONY's fault. Unless you forgot your question, here it is "How is this Sony's fault?"[QUOTE="Mystery_Writer"][QUOTE="VensInferno"]How is this Sony's fault? Can you give me reasons , good reasons.VensInferno
[QUOTE="VensInferno"]Does weren't really valid points into why Hackers are mad at them. who says those were points to why hackers are mad at them? those were points to why it's SONY's fault. Unless you forgot your question, here it is "How is this Sony's fault?" Yes, my question was how is it Sony's fault for making hackers go crazy. Sure Sony had poor security, but it isn't sonys fault that hackers went crazy and attacked. What your trying to say is like a bank being robbed by a man at gunpoint and in the end its the banks fault for getting robbed in the first place.[QUOTE="Mystery_Writer"] 1- not investing in security 2- hiring lazy devs that can't even sanitize their websites from sql injection. 3- allowing anyone to reset your password by just knowing your email and birthdate. shall I go on? or those would do?Mystery_Writer
Or don't hack anyone and get a real hobby.Nintendo didn't do anything. Just stick with Sony.
Hexagon_777
[QUOTE="DavidianMH"]Wow, some people really have nothing better to do with their time...Xboxgamer1337
Like you who just posts crap to get more posts? Just leave.
Who cares about the motive for it? This is cyber terrorism and those who do it should be put in jail and pay lots of money for being such """"".tommyas
What exactly did they do then? Hack into a server via SQL injection and take a server configuration file?
LulzSec didn't hack into Nintendo's production servers...they received no information about leaks, no personal information, and as far as I can tell, nothing of importance was compromised.
This is what LulzSec got: http://lulzsecurity.com/releases/nintendo.com_webserver_configuration.txt
That file tells you absolutely nothing whatsoever. This hack was done more as a proof of concept than anything.
If LulzSec decides to do some real hacking on Nintendo's servers, then the FBI can take them down.
[QUOTE="tommyas"]Who cares about the motive for it? This is cyber terrorism and those who do it should be put in jail and pay lots of money for being such """"".peterw007
What exactly did they do then? Hack into a server via SQL injection and take a server configuration file?
LulzSec didn't hack into Nintendo's production servers...they received no information about leaks, no personal information, and as far as I can tell, nothing of importance was compromised.
This is what LulzSec got: http://lulzsecurity.com/releases/nintendo.com_webserver_configuration.txt
That file tells you absolutely nothing whatsoever. This hack was done more as a proof of concept than anything.
If LulzSec decides to do some real hacking on Nintendo's servers, then the FBI can take them down.
I meant it in general, not exclusively the Nintendo thing.Yes, my question was how is it Sony's fault for making hackers go crazy. Sure Sony had poor security, but it isn't sonys fault that hackers went crazy and attacked. What your trying to say is like a bank being robbed by a man at gunpoint and in the end its the banks fault for getting robbed in the first place.VensInfernolet's try this one more time to make sure you're not back-peddling. Do you agree it's SONY's fault that they got hacked (i.e. not that they made hackers crazy)?
[QUOTE="VensInferno"]Yes, my question was how is it Sony's fault for making hackers go crazy. Sure Sony had poor security, but it isn't sonys fault that hackers went crazy and attacked. What your trying to say is like a bank being robbed by a man at gunpoint and in the end its the banks fault for getting robbed in the first place.Mystery_Writerlet's try this one more time to make sure you're not back-peddling. Do you agree it's SONY's fault that they got hacked (i.e. not that they made hackers crazy)? No it wasn't Sonys Fault. Does that answer your question?
the last thing Nintendo wants is to spook their casual market ... being hacked would be devastating to say the least.
[QUOTE="stevoqwerty"]This. First it was a huge scare for PSN users...now they're just pissing people off.These hackers should be shot on sight.
DethSkematik
It is just pathetic. "ya man, we just did it for the lulz....we roxorz!!!"
This. First it was a huge scare for PSN users...now they're just pissing people off.[QUOTE="DethSkematik"][QUOTE="stevoqwerty"]
These hackers should be shot on sight.
NaveedLife
It is just pathetic. "ya man, we just did it for the lulz....we roxorz!!!"
Bu..but they are going to lose user information in the near future, they deserve it.....
No it wasn't Sonys Fault. Does that answer your question?VensInferno
It does answer that question. But that question was meant to lead you to this follow up one:
What do you say to the reasons that logically explains it's actually SONY's fault (not in driving hackers crazy)?
here, let me re-write them:
1- not investing in security
2- hiring lazy devs that can't even sanitize their websites from sql injection.
3- allowing anyone to reset your password by just knowing your email and birthdate.
Couldn't these fools do something good with their ability, like hack terrorist networks instead lol??JediMindTripCouldn't you go and volunteer at a homeless shelter instead of posting on a web forum? You can't really criticise them when you're doing just as little to help society. TBH i think they are improving things, too many people take security for granted, perhaps now some people will think twice about using the same password for everything.
[QUOTE="VensInferno"]No it wasn't Sonys Fault. Does that answer your question?
Mystery_Writer
It does answer that question. But that question was meant to lead you to this follow up one:
What do you say to the reasons that logically explains it's actually SONY's fault (not in driving hackers crazy)?
here, let me re-write them:
1- not investing in security
2- hiring lazy devs that can't even sanitize their websites from sql injection.
3- allowing anyone to reset your password by just knowing your email and birthdate.
Im glad that it answered your question. But again, it was never sony's fault. It started with Hackers starting this battle. Geohotz jailbreaked the PS3, knowing things would go bad. Yet he still did. Anonymous attacked Sony even though the dispute between Hotz and Sony was over. So it was never Sony's fault, it was the hackers fault. Their idiotic idea of brotherhood led them to cause more problems.[QUOTE="JediMindTrip"]Couldn't these fools do something good with their ability, like hack terrorist networks instead lol??markop2003Couldn't you go and volunteer at a homeless shelter instead of posting on a web forum? You can't really criticise them when you're doing just as little to help society. TBH i think they are improving things, too many people take security for granted, perhaps now some people will think twice about using the same password for everything. pro-hacker are we ?
This is one area microsoft has years of experience in. Hackers have been at windows for years. They are primarly a software company. Dealing with hackers has always been a ongoing thing. They hack this microsoft patches that. Anyone who thinks windows is secure is fooling themselfs. There is a 100 million dollar industry just to keep secure what should be from the get go. But Xbox Live benifits from the years of knowing. Sony and alot of other companies are new to the Network dance, They will come out of this much more secure and, upper managment will make security more of a priority. A smart hacking group does not go public with what they have done. Its also why most of the asshats who are hackers are just doing it for the fun. Much the same way idiots make computer virus with no purpose but to screw you.
[QUOTE="JediMindTrip"]Couldn't these fools do something good with their ability, like hack terrorist networks instead lol??markop2003Couldn't you go and volunteer at a homeless shelter instead of posting on a web forum? You can't really criticise them when you're doing just as little to help society. TBH i think they are improving things, too many people take security for granted, perhaps now some people will think twice about using the same password for everything. What? So Sony was using the same password for everything? lol. What do users have to do with this?
Guess you're not big on phone numbers either huh?Nintendo hacked Nintendo years ago with those ridiculous friend codes... personal request to any hackers that are listening, can you do away with them?
TheEroica
Im glad that it answered your question. But again, it was never sony's fault. It started with Hackers starting this battle. Geohotz jailbreaked the PS3, knowing things would go bad. Yet he still did. Anonymous attacked Sony even though the dispute between Hotz and Sony was over. So it was never Sony's fault, it was the hackers fault. Their idiotic idea of brotherhood led them to cause more problems.But isn't that saying it's ok for a business to be sloppy at securing its customers' data as it's never its fault thieves took advantage of its sloppy security?VensInferno
But isn't that saying it's ok for a business to be sloppy at securing its customers' data as it's never it's fault thieves took advantage of its sloppy security?[QUOTE="VensInferno"] Im glad that it answered your question. But again, it was never sony's fault. It started with Hackers starting this battle. Geohotz jailbreaked the PS3, knowing things would go bad. Yet he still did. Anonymous attacked Sony even though the dispute between Hotz and Sony was over. So it was never Sony's fault, it was the hackers fault. Their idiotic idea of brotherhood led them to cause more problems.
Mystery_Writer
Exactly hackers are a fact of life.. Sony's system was obviously weak when it came to security.. Sony violated contractual agreement we made in which they guarenteed our private information would be safe.. To add more injury to insult they specifically kept reducing the functions of the PS3 due to "hacking" concerns.. Then this happens.
LulzSec don't give a rats ass what Sony have done, their system had weaknesses and LulzSec exploited it and made it public, Nintendos system has a weakness and LulzSec exploited it and made it public, nothing to do at all with which company did what to who. Only an idiot can't see this.JohnF111
But why the heck point that out?
Instead of leaving the Bank alone, they did this, "Hey look there's an obvious hole in the Bank's Safe. Let's Take the Money to show them a lesson!"
But isn't that saying it's ok for a business to be sloppy at securing its customers' data as it's never it's fault thieves took advantage of its sloppy security?[QUOTE="Mystery_Writer"]
[QUOTE="VensInferno"] Im glad that it answered your question. But again, it was never sony's fault. It started with Hackers starting this battle. Geohotz jailbreaked the PS3, knowing things would go bad. Yet he still did. Anonymous attacked Sony even though the dispute between Hotz and Sony was over. So it was never Sony's fault, it was the hackers fault. Their idiotic idea of brotherhood led them to cause more problems.
sSubZerOo
Exactly hackers are a fact of life.. Sony's system was obviously weak when it came to security.. Sony violated contractual agreement we made in which they guarenteed our private information would be safe.. To add more injury to insult they specifically kept reducing the functions of the PS3 due to "hacking" concerns.. Then this happens.
thanks, that what I was trying to tell VensInferno. And btw, here is, just fresh breaking news http://wwwery.com/2011/06/05/sony-music-brazil-hacked , another SONY website got hacked while we were posting on this thread trying to convince VensInferno and other PS3 fans what an irresponsible job SONY did in regards to securing its customer data.[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]Nintendo didn't do anything. Just stick with Sony.KevinButlerVPSony just gave them a push to start hacking them, in reality they will go after anyone who they feel are vulnerableQuite lame. Can't they try BDSM and the like if they want new experiences?
[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]Nintendo didn't do anything. Just stick with Sony.rogerjakWhat the hell kind of moral is that? You really want Sony to keep suffering from the hacker attacks? You should know that they aren't doing it because they hate Sony, they are doing it because they can.Considering the stuff in the Sony fail thread, karma was bound to hit the company hard. What's more, the things I read about Sony's security measures were quite worrying so I do hope it improves its security after the laughable performance that Sony allowed us to witness.
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