Hackers, Sony is very angry and they are coming for you!

Geohot may soon have company while facing the wrath of Sony. George Hotz has had to defend himself in court against the company since the beginning of this year, as Sony attempts to track down all the hackers responsible for the now widely-available PS3 jailbreak. The problem, thus far, has been actually finding them.

According to documents retrieved by PSX-SCENE, the company is pursuing this information, subpoenaing sites like the recently-DMCA'd Github. Sony is requesting "all information and documents related to the use of your service(s) to register, create, maintain and/or use accounts associated with the user names "hermesEOL," "kakaroto," "waninkoko," and "grafchokolo."

Although it's unlikely this legal action will slow distribution of the jailbreak, Sony's actions send a very loud statement: "we're very angry, and we're coming for all you."

Good luck finding those people lol...

Oooohh Sony is angry, the boogeyman is coming for teh hackers!:P

hell hath no furry like sony scorned

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Oooohh Sony is angry, the boogeyman is coming for teh hackers!:P

VensInferno

So...Sony spends more money on legal actions while not truly stopping the hacking?

[QUOTE="VensInferno"]

[QUOTE="EddieTheHead84"]

Oooohh Sony is angry, the boogeyman is coming for teh hackers!:P

Iantheone

They gonna find you, they gonna find you...vashkey

So you can run and tell that... homeboy!

Is it weird that I derive pleasure in seeing hackers get shut down?

[QUOTE="vashkey"]They gonna find you, they gonna find you...Vari3ty

So you can run and tell that... homeboy!

They should be focusing on actually fixing the problems caused instead of going after these people, sony should know that persecuting these people will just make them martyrs in the eyes of their communities. ferret-gamer

id imagine they are secretly behind the scenes releasing new PS3s shipments with a new security code or whatever in them. Unbeknownst to us. And then they are finding teh people that cracked it and shutting them down to make sure the situation dosent get worse for the 40+ million vulnerable consoles sold. I think they are doing the right thing. If you let the problem go uncontained, itll only get worse.

Good luck with that, Sony.

I def wanna see sony press charges on this one.. I could barely see the lawsuit against Geo since he publicly released it but for those who might have actually cracked it..... a major Meh... Waits to see sony's next scare tactic on this one.jedikevin2

its a necessary one. what would you rather them do? Ignore it?

[QUOTE="jedikevin2"]I def wanna see sony press charges on this one.. I could barely see the lawsuit against Geo since he publicly released it but for those who might have actually cracked it..... a major Meh... Waits to see sony's next scare tactic on this one.XboximusPrime

its a necessary one. what would you rather them do? Ignore it?

Good get em sony, I hope sony wins this.

[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

[QUOTE="jedikevin2"]I def wanna see sony press charges on this one.. I could barely see the lawsuit against Geo since he publicly released it but for those who might have actually cracked it..... a major Meh... Waits to see sony's next scare tactic on this one.jedikevin2

its a necessary one. what would you rather them do? Ignore it?

You realize the reason PSP went out like it did was BECAUSE of crap like thsi, right? And PS2 was popular enough to where that popularity could offset the pirates. PS3 does not have that luxury since it dosent have 100+ million units sold. If they ignored it, the platform would literaly die a slow death. I would not like that to happen, so I aplaude SONY for taking this route. Also, this hack is WAY worse then the PS2 hack.

If you let the problem go uncontained, itll only get worse.

XboximusPrime

It will always be uncontained. Chasing every hacker is like trying to dam a river with a colander.

[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

If you let the problem go uncontained, itll only get worse.

DucksBrains

It will always be uncontained. Chasing every hacker is like trying to dam a river with a colander.

I think if they can catch it somewhat early before the codes get MASSIVELY distributed to a ton of people, they can contain it to the point of it not mattering. Also, as I said earlier, dont be surprised if new PS3s being made now have a new Encyrption or whatever.

honestly, I think people saw all those doom articles when this first happened and peopel convinced themselves its a hopeless battle.

If a multi billion dollar company wants to find bad enough trust me they'll find you.

To the people saying 'good luck oressing charges on people outside the country' government are corrupt and especially in developing countries where these hacks abd piracy are rife, the corrupt public officials will gladly sell out/ indict thier own citizens. So yeah if all the people defending these hacks because they are mates with some of the hacking guys...all I can say islay low for a while.

Is it weird that I derive pleasure in seeing hackers get shut down?

XboximusPrime

i wish i knew how to hack :(

[QUOTE="jedikevin2"][QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

its a necessary one. what would you rather them do? Ignore it?

XboximusPrime

You realize the reason PSP went out like it did was BECAUSE of crap like thsi, right? And PS2 was popular enough to where that popularity could offset the pirates. PS3 does not have that luxury since it dosent have 100+ million units sold. If they ignored it, the platform would literaly die a slow death. I would not like that to happen, so I aplaude SONY for taking this route. Also, this hack is WAY worse then the PS2 hack.

Regardless of feelings, the presidence has been made that they have been quiet in the past. In the end, we just dealing with scare tactics now. Even the main lawsuit has all the workings of a flop. I don't personally care for or against hacking but I stated they have been quiet in the past. What if I said the DS, the 360, the wii or any other hardware that has been compromised died a slow death because of piracy? I mean look at Pc gaming. Its been a hog pog of piracy, game hacks etc for well over a decade and its still going strong. Lets not try to just state something would die here. I don't see what people are to appluade here? That they are scrapping the bottom of the bin to try to stop something that cannot be stopped at this point? Sony is just jumping into a bottomless pit attemping to find a place to land.

honestly, I think people saw all those doom articles when this first happened and peopel convinced themselves its a hopeless battle.

XboximusPrime

remember the Apocalyps3? oh teh dommed!!! the ps3 has been doomed so many times now I think sony hasnt scrapped it because it has developed an immunity

Uh oh, I guess Sony is going to subponea the entire internet now.:lol: Let the futile game of Whack a Mole begin!

[QUOTE="jedikevin2"][QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

its a necessary one. what would you rather them do? Ignore it?

XboximusPrime

You realize the reason PSP went out like it did was BECAUSE of crap like thsi, right? And PS2 was popular enough to where that popularity could offset the pirates. PS3 does not have that luxury since it dosent have 100+ million units sold. If they ignored it, the platform would literaly die a slow death. I would not like that to happen, so I aplaude SONY for taking this route. Also, this hack is WAY worse then the PS2 hack.

This point doesn't make any sense. The PSP just had arguably its strongest year of releases yet, and more on the way. The piracy hurts game sales argument never really works.

However, I would agree with you that piracy is potentially even more problematic for the PS3 as it doesn't require any hardware modification whatsoever and people can now hookup a terabyte HDD full of pirated goods to enjoy.

This is really all just litigation theater from Sony. The internet doesn't forget, and there's no putting the genie back in the bottle.

[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

[QUOTE="jedikevin2"] considering how they have for some time and that other platforms they have had not resulted int this... I would say ignore it.. I look at the PSP as a example here.. Outside of that, you had people with hard modded ps2's in the old days though that is more a different issue.. Its not like this how piracy, hacking thing is really new to Sony and their platforms. jedikevin2

You realize the reason PSP went out like it did was BECAUSE of crap like thsi, right? And PS2 was popular enough to where that popularity could offset the pirates. PS3 does not have that luxury since it dosent have 100+ million units sold. If they ignored it, the platform would literaly die a slow death. I would not like that to happen, so I aplaude SONY for taking this route. Also, this hack is WAY worse then the PS2 hack.

Regardless of feelings, the presidence has been made that they have been quiet in the past. In the end, we just dealing with scare tactics now. Even the main lawsuit has all the workings of a flop. I don't personally care for or against hacking but I stated they have been quiet in the past. What if I said the DS, the 360, the wii or any other hardware that has been compromised died a slow death because of piracy? I mean look at Pc gaming. Its been a hog pog of piracy, game hacks etc for well over a decade and its still going strong. Lets not try to just state something would die here. I don't see what people are to appluade here? That they are scrapping the bottom of the bin to try to stop something that cannot be stopped at this point? Sony is just jumping into a bottomless pit attemping to find a place to land.

You fail to realize that no console has been this bad before. people never really found the source root code or whatever and now that they have it, people dont need to spend alot of money to mod their consoles, they can do it very easily now. that hasnt happened before. Thats why this is more problematic. And again, why is this a losing battle? peopel convinced themselves it is, but im in the camp that SONY will find a way.

[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

[QUOTE="jedikevin2"] considering how they have for some time and that other platforms they have had not resulted int this... I would say ignore it.. I look at the PSP as a example here.. Outside of that, you had people with hard modded ps2's in the old days though that is more a different issue.. Its not like this how piracy, hacking thing is really new to Sony and their platforms. QuistisTrepe_

You realize the reason PSP went out like it did was BECAUSE of crap like thsi, right? And PS2 was popular enough to where that popularity could offset the pirates. PS3 does not have that luxury since it dosent have 100+ million units sold. If they ignored it, the platform would literaly die a slow death. I would not like that to happen, so I aplaude SONY for taking this route. Also, this hack is WAY worse then the PS2 hack.

This point doesn't make any sense. The PSP just had arguably its strongest year of releases yet, and more on the way. The piracy hurts game sales argument never really works.

However, I would agree with you that piracy is potentially even more problematic for the PS3 as it doesn't require any hardware modification whatsoever and people can now hookup a terabyte HDD full of pirated goods to enjoy.

This is really all just litigation theater from Sony. The internet doesn't forget, and there's no putting the genie back in the bottle.

once again, we convince ourselves its hopeless.

Only reason this hack worries me is Devs might stop putting effort into PS3 development, meaning less games and worse ports on PS3.

[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

honestly, I think people saw all those doom articles when this first happened and peopel convinced themselves its a hopeless battle.

Zaibach

remember the Apocalyps3? oh teh dommed!!! the ps3 has been doomed so many times now I think sony hasnt scrapped it because it has developed an immunity

yeah. I just hate how people listenend to these hackers talk about how its hopeless for SONy to combat this, they believe these fools, and never once consider that SONY COULD fix the situation. you wanna know how they can maybe not fix the situation, but help it greatly? Crack down on people distributing the codes, ship new PS3s with a new Encrypted syestem, and ensure that new models cant get hacked this way, and ensure that as few people aspossible can get the existing code for the 40 million plus PS3 out now. they have to contain it, and I think they will.

this definitely won't stop hackers but it just will make some of them think, if Sony catches them their in for a world of hurtKevinButlerVP

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[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

You realize the reason PSP went out like it did was BECAUSE of crap like thsi, right? And PS2 was popular enough to where that popularity could offset the pirates. PS3 does not have that luxury since it dosent have 100+ million units sold. If they ignored it, the platform would literaly die a slow death. I would not like that to happen, so I aplaude SONY for taking this route. Also, this hack is WAY worse then the PS2 hack.

XboximusPrime

Regardless of feelings, the presidence has been made that they have been quiet in the past. In the end, we just dealing with scare tactics now. Even the main lawsuit has all the workings of a flop. I don't personally care for or against hacking but I stated they have been quiet in the past. What if I said the DS, the 360, the wii or any other hardware that has been compromised died a slow death because of piracy? I mean look at Pc gaming. Its been a hog pog of piracy, game hacks etc for well over a decade and its still going strong. Lets not try to just state something would die here. I don't see what people are to appluade here? That they are scrapping the bottom of the bin to try to stop something that cannot be stopped at this point? Sony is just jumping into a bottomless pit attemping to find a place to land.

You fail to realize that no console has been this bad before. people never really found the source root code or whatever and now that they have it, people dont need to spend alot of money to mod their consoles, they can do it very easily now. that hasnt happened before. Thats why this is more problematic. And again, why is this a losing battle? peopel convinced themselves it is, but im in the camp that SONY will find a way.

Find a way to do what? Make more scare tatics? Whine more? If Geo goes to jail nothing will change, The hackers won't go.

"Oh snap bro' Geo went to dem jailz bro' What do we do?"

"I think we should give in brospeh, we can't l33t hax the ps3 without Geo dur hur."

Hacking happens alot, Its about time Sony got that though there skulls and just left it alone.

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"]this definitely won't stop hackers but it just will make some of them think, if Sony catches them their in for a world of hurtDerekLoffin

I hope this dosent force SONYs hand on PS4. I dont wanna buy a new console now, and itll only be met with negative reaction.

[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

[QUOTE="jedikevin2"]

Regardless of feelings, the presidence has been made that they have been quiet in the past. In the end, we just dealing with scare tactics now. Even the main lawsuit has all the workings of a flop. I don't personally care for or against hacking but I stated they have been quiet in the past. What if I said the DS, the 360, the wii or any other hardware that has been compromised died a slow death because of piracy? I mean look at Pc gaming. Its been a hog pog of piracy, game hacks etc for well over a decade and its still going strong. Lets not try to just state something would die here. I don't see what people are to appluade here? That they are scrapping the bottom of the bin to try to stop something that cannot be stopped at this point? Sony is just jumping into a bottomless pit attemping to find a place to land.

Ikuto_Tsukiyomi

You fail to realize that no console has been this bad before. people never really found the source root code or whatever and now that they have it, people dont need to spend alot of money to mod their consoles, they can do it very easily now. that hasnt happened before. Thats why this is more problematic. And again, why is this a losing battle? peopel convinced themselves it is, but im in the camp that SONY will find a way.

Find a way to do what? Make more scare tatics? Whine more? If Geo goes to jail nothing will change, The hackers won't go.

"Oh snap bro' Geo went to dem jailz bro' What do we do?"

"I think we should give in brospeh, we can't l33t hax the ps3 without Geo dur hur."

Hacking happens alot, Its about time Sony got that though there skulls and just left it alone.

you dont get it, no console has it this bad. Before people had to pay atleast some money to mod their console, and even then they would have to have alot of knowledge on how to do it. Now any yahoo that has a basic understanding of this can do it. Why dont you get that? thats why SONY needs to do this.

you dont get it, no console has it this bad. Before people had to pay atleast some money to mod their console, and even then they would have to have alot of knowledge on how to do it. Now any yahoo that has a basic understanding of this can do it. Why dont you get that? thats why SONY needs to do this.

XboximusPrime

Guess you forgot about the Wii in this argument... folks so quick on the Ps3 but even this generation, they not the first one hit this severly. They are the second when it comes to this type of thing. Folks going so gun hoe on this as if this is something new.. Its not though. We dealing with the second in the line of the 3 consoles with the last(360) also having severe problems. Lets not get so antsy now.

[QUOTE="DerekLoffin"][QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"]this definitely won't stop hackers but it just will make some of them think, if Sony catches them their in for a world of hurtXboximusPrime

I hope this dosent force SONYs hand on PS4. I dont wanna buy a new console now, and itll only be met with negative reaction.

[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

you dont get it, no console has it this bad. Before people had to pay atleast some money to mod their console, and even then they would have to have alot of knowledge on how to do it. Now any yahoo that has a basic understanding of this can do it. Why dont you get that? thats why SONY needs to do this.

jedikevin2

Guess you forgot about the Wii in this argument... folks so quick on the Ps3 but even this generation, they not the first one hit this severly. They are the second when it comes to this type of thing. Folks going so gun hoe on this as if this is something new.. Its not though. We dealing with the second in the line of the 3 consoles with the last(360) also having severe problems. Lets not get so antsy now.

Wii has the popularity to not be effected by this. I dont know why 360 dosent get hit harder then ti does, but its common knowledge they tend to sell more software then PS3, so they have that going for them. PS3 gets hit the hardest here.

[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

[QUOTE="DerekLoffin"] Yeah. What we know from this hack is only a small number of hackers are truly 'dangerous' enough to pose a serious threat to security breaches. PS3 is compromised, but with NGP on the way, and PS4 probably not far behind, Sony wants to send a message here. If Sony can get their hands on the main culprits and drag them into very expensive court proceedings, they will probably steer clear next time, even if they do get off.DerekLoffin

I hope this dosent force SONYs hand on PS4. I dont wanna buy a new console now, and itll only be met with negative reaction.

I cant really see it hapening for MS and SONy. MS is riding on their Kinect Hype train and SONY is having one of their best PS3 years so far this year.