Hahahaha Chromecast just murdered Xbox One

lol only sheens would be so stupid as to cheer on a device that will directly compete with the ps4. This is much like when they treated nvidia like god when they said the xbox dOne was weak....yet didn't notice they said the ps4 was weak as well.

WilliamRLBaker

Chromecast doesn't compete with PS4 because the youtube app, etc. are very, very minor features: not supposed selling points like Microsoft has tried to turn them into. Care to move the goal posts any further though? You're doing a great job undermining any credibility your arguments might have once had.

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i already own an apple tv so this is irrelevant to me. now exactly how the hell is this supposed to compete with an x1?

AD216

Dude, it plugs into a frigging USB port on your TV, how tiny is your apartment if you can't plug in a USB drive? Because if it's that small you should be getting the PS4 anyway given that it takes up less space than the XBONE.

how does chromecast "murder" x1?

I'm not getting how this competes with the Xbone. Will it let you voice control your tv? Play video games? Be on skype while watching TV? Seriously you guys are reaching here. NFJSupreme

it's basically just cloud streaming/airplay

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lol only sheens would be so stupid as to cheer on a device that will directly compete with the ps4. This is much like when they treated nvidia like god when they said the xbox dOne was weak....yet didn't notice they said the ps4 was weak as well.

Aidenfury19

Chromecast doesn't compete with PS4 because the youtube app, etc. are very, very minor features: not supposed selling points like Microsoft has tried to turn them into. Care to move the goal posts any further though? You're doing a great job undermining any credibility your arguments might have once had.

um Sony markets those features as selling points too.  You need to take off your fanboy goggles. 

If M$ weren't one of the biggest anti consumer corporations in existence I'd almost feel bad for them. 

If M$ weren't one of the biggest anti consumer corporations in existence I'd almost feel bad for them. 

Eddie-Vedder

so you take the side of the company that installed rootkits on consumers computers?

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lol only sheens would be so stupid as to cheer on a device that will directly compete with the ps4. This is much like when they treated nvidia like god when they said the xbox dOne was weak....yet didn't notice they said the ps4 was weak as well.

NFJSupreme

Chromecast doesn't compete with PS4 because the youtube app, etc. are very, very minor features: not supposed selling points like Microsoft has tried to turn them into. Care to move the goal posts any further though? You're doing a great job undermining any credibility your arguments might have once had.

um Sony markets those features as selling points too.  You need to take off your fanboy goggles. 

Sony markets them like your DVD player markets MP3 playback, Microsoft markets them like a Tivo markets skipping commercials. One is obviously more important to the product than the other.

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Chromecast doesn't compete with PS4 because the youtube app, etc. are very, very minor features: not supposed selling points like Microsoft has tried to turn them into. Care to move the goal posts any further though? You're doing a great job undermining any credibility your arguments might have once had.

Aidenfury19

um Sony markets those features as selling points too.  You need to take off your fanboy goggles. 

Sony markets them like your DVD player markets MP3 playback, Microsoft markets them like a Tivo markets skipping commercials. One is obviously more important to the product than the other.

didn't sony spend a decent amount of time at their E3 presentation talking about TV and movies?

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If M$ weren't one of the biggest anti consumer corporations in existence I'd almost feel bad for them. 

lostrib

so you take the side of the company that installed rootkits on consumers computers?

As opposed to what, the platform maker that had known for half a decade that autoplay was an issue and waited for another half decade after that happened to do anything about it?

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[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"]

If M$ weren't one of the biggest anti consumer corporations in existence I'd almost feel bad for them. 

Aidenfury19

so you take the side of the company that installed rootkits on consumers computers?

As opposed to what, the platform maker that had known for half a decade that autoplay was an issue and waited for another half decade after that happened to do anything about it?

so two wrongs make a right?

This is news? Pfff lame. I already have a 360 hooked to my TV.

didn't sony spend a decent amount of time at their E3 presentation talking about TV and movies?

lostrib

During the very middle (i.e. it was to get it off the checklist, big items are discussed early or late during conferences) and they spent virtually no time during the reveal discussing anything other than games and the hardware. Companies lead with what they think will sell their product: for Sony that isn't streaming video.

so two wrongs make a right?

lostrib

No, it's more a means of pointing out how silly it is to point out something while entirely ignoring the party that allowed it to happen. Alternatively you could say it's silly to point out things that happened a decade ago at all, particularly when the relevant parties were different parts of the involved companies entirely.

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Chromecast doesn't compete with PS4 because the youtube app, etc. are very, very minor features: not supposed selling points like Microsoft has tried to turn them into. Care to move the goal posts any further though? You're doing a great job undermining any credibility your arguments might have once had.

Aidenfury19

um Sony markets those features as selling points too.  You need to take off your fanboy goggles. 

Sony markets them like your DVD player markets MP3 playback, Microsoft markets them like a Tivo markets skipping commercials. One is obviously more important to the product than the other.

yep fanboy confirmed.  It doesn't matter how they market their features. They still offer those features so if you are going to say this product competes with the xbone they you have say it competes with ALL consoles including current ones or else you are just another loud mouth cow mooing. 

yep fanboy confirmed.  It doesn't matter how they market their features. They still offer those features so if you are going to say this product competes with the xbone they you have say it competes with ALL consoles including current ones or else you are just another loud mouth cow mooing. 

NFJSupreme

My MP3 player advertised video playback, but the fact that it has a 160x128px screen should tell you just how much of a selling point that actually was for people. If you fail to see the distinction being made here then there is no hope for you.

They already pulled the Netflix offer becasue they got swamped...

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/07/the-chromecast-has-a-netflix-promotion-and-its-gone/

lol

Google is just solid gold these days.

 so what your trying to say is this only competes with the xbox dOne it doesn't compete with the ps4, or the other media players out there like appletv, roku, sony media players?

WilliamRLBaker

This is what I'm confused about.

If this threatens the Xbox One then it also competes with the PS4, and everything else.

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 so what your trying to say is this only competes with the xbox dOne it doesn't compete with the ps4, or the other media players out there like appletv, roku, sony media players?

Ly_the_Fairy

This is what I'm confused about.

If this threatens the Xbox One then it also competes with the PS4, and everything else.

It lessens the attractiveness of the XBONE in a way that it doesn't for the PS4 because the media features on the XBONE function to differentiate it from other consoles while the PS4 is relying on other things to do that.

I'll agree to the extent that it competes with other (dedicated) media players as well.

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 so what your trying to say is this only competes with the xbox dOne it doesn't compete with the ps4, or the other media players out there like appletv, roku, sony media players?

Aidenfury19

This is what I'm confused about.

If this threatens the Xbox One then it also competes with the PS4, and everything else.

It lessens the attractiveness of the XBONE in a way that it doesn't for the PS4 because the media features on the XBONE function to differentiate it from other consoles while the PS4 is relying on other things to do that.

I'll agree to the extent that it competes with other (dedicated) media players as well.

So because the media features function differently between the Xbox One, and PS4 how does that make the Chromecast compete more heavily against the One than the PS4?

They both play games, and they both play media. The only difference is that the Xbox One has a more attractive setup for the additional media.

If the Chromecast hurts the Xbox One then it will most certainly hurt the PS4 as well, and for the same reason. If someone wants media more than they want gaming, so they'll opt for a Chromecast over both the PS4 and Xbox One. If they want gaming and media they'll go for either the PS4 or Xbox One, and if they want gaming + an awesome media player all-in-one then chances are they'll choose the Xbox One.

So because the media features function differently between the Xbox One, and PS4 how does that make the Chromecast compete more heavily against the One than the PS4?

They both play games, and they both play media. The only difference is that the Xbox One has a more attractive setup for the additional media.

If the Chromecast hurts the Xbox One then it will most certainly hurt the PS4 as well, and for the same reason. If someone wants media more than they want gaming, so they'll opt for a Chromecast over both the PS4 and Xbox One. If they want gaming and media they'll go for either the PS4 or Xbox One, and if they want gaming + an awesome media player all-in-one then chances are they'll choose the Xbox One.

Ly_the_Fairy

The question I would ask you is how many people are consciously aware of or interested in the media features for the PS4 compared to the XBONE? Meaning specifically, how many people are interested in buying a PS4 in part or mostly because of the media features compared to XBONE?

I'd venture not many, so if it does hurt the PS4 there it is to a far less great extent than the XBONE which was announced and pushed in many ways using the media features.

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So because the media features function differently between the Xbox One, and PS4 how does that make the Chromecast compete more heavily against the One than the PS4?

They both play games, and they both play media. The only difference is that the Xbox One has a more attractive setup for the additional media.

If the Chromecast hurts the Xbox One then it will most certainly hurt the PS4 as well, and for the same reason. If someone wants media more than they want gaming, so they'll opt for a Chromecast over both the PS4 and Xbox One. If they want gaming and media they'll go for either the PS4 or Xbox One, and if they want gaming + an awesome media player all-in-one then chances are they'll choose the Xbox One.

Aidenfury19

The question I would ask you is how many people are consciously aware of or interested in the media features for the PS4 compared to the XBONE? Meaning specifically, how many people are interested in buying a PS4 in part or mostly because of the media features compared to XBONE?

I'd venture not many, so if it does hurt the PS4 there it is to a far less great extent than the XBONE which was announced and pushed in many ways using the media features.

So if nobody thinks the PS4 offers anything as far as media then that already hurts them in the space for competition amongst media players.

You have people looking at both the Chromecast, and Xbox One comparing them to see which they'd prefer, but you have nobody even considering the PS4 for media, so on the side of things it's not even going to sell regardless. It'll only be sold as a gaming machine.

However, people still understand the Xbox One has games. The buzz for Titanfall alone is enough to prove that. I don't know a single person (who plays games) who hasn't brought up that game. Many of them are even long-time Playstation fans who have never owned an Xbox, and they are contemplating getting an Xbox One for that game alone.

[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"]

If M$ weren't one of the biggest anti consumer corporations in existence I'd almost feel bad for them. 

lostrib

so you take the side of the company that installed rootkits on consumers computers?

how does chromecast "murder" x1?

lostrib

So if nobody thinks the PS4 offers anything as far as media then that already hurts them in the space for competition amongst media players.

You have people looking at both the Chromecast, and Xbox One comparing them to see which they'd prefer, but you have nobody even considering the PS4 for media, so on the side of things it's not even going to sell regardless. It'll only be sold as a gaming machine.

However, people still understand the Xbox One has games. The buzz for Titanfall alone is enough to prove that. I don't know a single person (who plays games) who hasn't brought up that game. Many of them are even long-time Playstation fans who have never owned an Xbox, and they are contemplating getting an Xbox One for that game alone.

Ly_the_Fairy

If you're counting on streaming media to sell your game console you're gonna have a bad time. This is already showing up as the XBONE is being crushed in the pre-order game by the PS4 even in the 360's strongest territories.

The niche for media players is far smaller than the one for game consoles: most people are perfectly happy with whatever their cable provider offers them. Chromecast is inexpensive enough to be an impulse buy, which is the only reason I'd even call it a factor.

And really, citing Titanfall? The game functions primarily as a running joke currently, I really can't believe you'd be that daft.

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So if nobody thinks the PS4 offers anything as far as media then that already hurts them in the space for competition amongst media players.

You have people looking at both the Chromecast, and Xbox One comparing them to see which they'd prefer, but you have nobody even considering the PS4 for media, so on the side of things it's not even going to sell regardless. It'll only be sold as a gaming machine.

However, people still understand the Xbox One has games. The buzz for Titanfall alone is enough to prove that. I don't know a single person (who plays games) who hasn't brought up that game. Many of them are even long-time Playstation fans who have never owned an Xbox, and they are contemplating getting an Xbox One for that game alone.

Aidenfury19

If you're counting on streaming media to sell your game console you're gonna have a bad time. This is already showing up as the XBONE is being crushed in the pre-order game by the PS4 even in the 360's strongest territories.

The niche for media players is far smaller than the one for game consoles: most people are perfectly happy with whatever their cable provider offers them. Chromecast is inexpensive enough to be an impulse buy, which is the only reason I'd even call it a factor.

And really, citing Titanfall? The game functions primarily as a running joke currently, I really can't believe you'd be that daft.

One of the biggest proponents of Xbox has always been Xbox Live. A service that's had an increase in subscriber base every year since it began. The Xbox 360 most definitely sold by way of its media, and social component, and the Xbox 360 was actually selling more in its 6th and 7th year than it was in its first or second because of all the increased functionality. Don't mistake pre-orders for long-term success.

And why not cite Titanfall? It's a running joke on forums plagued by fanboys? It'd be more daft to say that Titanfall has no real world hype. It was the most awarded game of E3...

read this morning... very cool little device.  I'm roku all the way, but Ill probably still get this as its tiny, portable and will work anywhere I have wifi.  Still I'm not sure the subject title makes a lick of sense when comparing it to the XO.  Not sure their going for the same thing here.  XO is supposed to augment the way people interact with TV and this is merely providing services.

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so what your trying to say is this only competes with the xbox dOne it doesn't compete with the ps4, or the other media players out there like appletv, roku, sony media players?

Ly_the_Fairy

This is what I'm confused about.

If this threatens the Xbox One then it also competes with the PS4, and everything else.

It makes no matter to PS4. Sony is pushing at as a game machine. A couple occasions they mentioned multi media abilities and then thats pretty much it, they have been marketing this as a game machine that also happens to do multimedia if the user would like.

Microsoft on the other hand has been going hardcore at how its great for a small business, the NFL fantasy football live updates, using the kinect to flip channels, how you can run your cable box through it, stream movies and really been pushing the multimedia aspect of it.

So it is more of a threat to the xbox one because xbox one is trying to be an everything machine, PS4 is 4/5 games, 1/5 multimedia.

And this is a game forum. We dont care about roku, apple tv or media players. It doesnt take a genius to figure out why they werent mentioned. This is GAMEspot on a console system wars forum.

Cant wait to play games on the Chromecast.

ConanTheStoner

You're gonna have to because XBone wont offer anything like that.

All Chromecast is is a dongle which lets you stream media from your computer or tablet/mobile. How does that kill the Xbone's media functions? The 360 and PS3 can already do this.Ninja-Hippo

Wrong.  It lets you stream content from ANYWHERE ON THE WEB, and it's providing an open API so any app for any platform can use it.  This is huge.

seems like a waste of $35 to me.

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Cant wait to play games on the Chromecast.

Master_ShakeXXX

You're gonna have to because XBone wont offer anything like that.

:lol:

If I were even remotely considering an X1 purchase that would bother me.

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Cant wait to play games on the Chromecast.

Master_ShakeXXX

You're gonna have to because XBone wont offer anything like that.

Can you switch TV channels or view the guide by using your voice on the Chromecast? Can you select the TV show you want by saying it's name on it too? Can you watch TV and surf the Internet at the same time? So if you think it can surpass the Xbox One then I have this to say too you! Hahahahahhahahaa 

Can you switch TV channels or view the guide by using your voice on the Chromecast? Can you select the TV show you want by saying it's name on it too? Can you watch TV and surf the Internet at the same time? So if you think it can surpass the Xbox One then I have this to say too you! Hahahahahhahahaa 

xhawk27

Where was your thread about the far more fully-featured and polished AppleTV?musicalmac

Apple TV is a walled garden device.  It's meant to chain you down to the Apple world.  Chromecast is multiplatform and is designed to set you free.

Can you switch TV channels or view the guide by using your voice on the Chromecast? Can you select the TV show you want by saying it's name on it too? Can you watch TV and surf the Internet at the same time? So if you think it can surpass the Xbox One then I have this to say too you! Hahahahahhahahaa 

xhawk27

You are a flipping idiot.  Chromecast can do anything that Chrome can do.  Do you realize how powerful Chrome is?  It's not limited by any hardware or software set.  It has the power of the whole web.  Whatever functions you include in Chrome can be on your TV now, and yes, that includes very complex games.

Microsoft are assholes who totally deserve this.

uninspiredcup

[QUOTE="musicalmac"]Where was your thread about the far more fully-featured and polished AppleTV?Knocks

Apple TV is a walled garden device.  It's meant to chain you down to the Apple world.  Chromecast is multiplatform and is designed to set you free.

Can you switch TV channels or view the guide by using your voice on the Chromecast? Can you select the TV show you want by saying it's name on it too? Can you watch TV and surf the Internet at the same time? So if you think it can surpass the Xbox One then I have this to say too you! Hahahahahhahahaa 

xhawk27

You are a flipping idiot.  Chromecast can do anything that Chrome can do.  Do you realize how powerful Chrome is?  It's not limited by any hardware or software set.  It has the power of the whole web.  Whatever functions you include in Chrome can be on your TV now, and yes, that includes very complex games.

You are a flipping dumS#%t! Chromcecast is not even close of all the features that the Xbox One can do. Also NFL, NBA, etc All live update stats on screen. 

Apple TV is a walled garden device.  It's meant to chain you down to the Apple world.  Chromecast is multiplatform and is designed to set you free.

Knocks

Well with the One you get to play great exclusives like

lol the ps4 has no media capabilities it is strictly a game machine right? sony has no interest in the TV or streaming sphere...no plans for such abilities on the ps4 so obviously the chromecast wont be competing with it, only the xbox dOne.

Sheens are truely morons.

WilliamRLBaker

LOL you mad? 

Do people still pay for cable tv? That's like paying bills through the postal service instead of online. :lol:

Bigboi500

lol i agree, ever since i purchased a minix neo x5 loaded with xbmc with live streams i never looked back.

Seriously, most of us knew Xbox One would face a real challenger (not PS4) soon, but who would have thought it would be a sweet little $35 HDMI stick?

Good job, Google. You just sent all Xbox media apps down the toilet in one move.

Knocks

not gunna happen innit

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lol the ps4 has no media capabilities it is strictly a game machine right? sony has no interest in the TV or streaming sphere...no plans for such abilities on the ps4 so obviously the chromecast wont be competing with it, only the xbox dOne.

Sheens are truely morons.

Aidenfury19

At what point has Sony made TV or media streaming (aside from games) a focus of the system in any of its press conferences or other events?

Get the PS4 and a Chromecast, and you're set for life. Lol $499!