halo 2,3 are utter trash compared to 1.

we were like wtf screw the aliens why are we playing as them this soooo stupid wtf!!!!!!!I .....claywalker21

nah... halo 3 delivered a great story and really brought it back to the roots of the first one and improved on it.

the story in and execution in halo 2 is extremely poor compard to the other two.

How you can say Halo: CE had a better story than the sequels amazes me.[quote="claywalker21"]we were like wtf screw the aliens why are we playing as them this soooo stupid wtf!!!!!!!I .....II-FBIsniper-II

http://nikon.bungie.org/misc/cutscenes/halo.html

so awesome

How you can say Halo: CE had a better story than the sequels amazes me.[quote="claywalker21"]we were like wtf screw the aliens why are we playing as them this soooo stupid wtf!!!!!!!I .....II-FBIsniper-II

[QUOTE="II-FBIsniper-II"]How you can say Halo: CE had a better story than the sequels amazes me.[quote="claywalker21"]we were like wtf screw the aliens why are we playing as them this soooo stupid wtf!!!!!!!I .....GT-JPWhoopass

http://nikon.bungie.org/misc/cutscenes/halo.html

so awesome

People actually take time to watch Halo cutscenes without even playing the game? Sweet jesus:cry:

[QUOTE="II-FBIsniper-II"]How you can say Halo: CE had a better story than the sequels amazes me.[quote="claywalker21"]we were like wtf screw the aliens why are we playing as them this soooo stupid wtf!!!!!!!I .....too_much_eslim

Halo never had a good story really people need to stop saying this. It was told in a horrible way and a terrible ending for pretty much all 3 games.

And I cannot believe people would think 1 was better then 2. imo their both bad games but at least I had a little bit of fun with halo 2's campagin compared to 1's were you had those awful encounters with the flood which were annoying and repetitive gameplay

I alos did not see anything "creepy" about Halo 1. I have seen "creepyier" things from games years older then it and had way better atmosphere(SYSTEM SHOCK 2!!!!!). I mean really I know this may sound harsh but is Halo one of the first games you guys on SW ever played? I don't understand how its a god send and is a master piece. I will never understand it no matter what.

Halo never had a good story really people need to stop saying this. It was told in a horrible way and a terrible ending for pretty much all 3 games.

And I cannot believe people would think 1 was better then 2. imo their both bad games but at least I had a little bit of fun with halo 2's campagin compared to 1's were you had those awful encounters with the flood which were annoying and repetitive gameplay

I alos did not see anything "creepy" about Halo 1. I have seen "creepyier" things from games years older then it and had way better atmosphere(SYSTEM SHOCK 2!!!!!). I mean really I know this may sound harsh but is Halo one of the first games you guys on SW ever played? I don't understand how its a god send and is a master piece. I will never understand it no matter what.

I always hear lemming say you hate halo 3 for no reason,well its because its dribble compared to 1,1 actually had a really good story and gameplay especially when your first sent to investigate the flood in the underground vault then you seee them for the first time it was so creepy.halo 1 was amazing so i expected great things from 2.When i first played 2 i was like why did they change the art style so much every thing looks more streamlined and less bulky but wutever,then I got the mission with my friends when we were playing the covenant we were like wtf screw the aliens why are we playing as them this soooo stupid wtf!!!!!!!I ......Itt was nothing like the first halo 1 with an amazing story,creepy atmosphere,great level design,and you could actually immerse yourself in the game and relate to the chief some what.Then halo 3 came and just takd the singleplayer onto the multiplayer.So thats the reason hate HALO3 because its nothing compared to 1. claywalker21

Credibility -1.

Halo never had a good story really people need to stop saying this. It was told in a horrible way and a terrible ending for pretty much all 3 games.

And I cannot believe people would think 1 was better then 2. imo their both bad games but at least I had a little bit of fun with halo 2's campagin compared to 1's were you had those awful encounters with the flood which were annoying and repetitive gameplay

I alos did not see anything "creepy" about Halo 1. I have seen "creepyier" things from games years older then it and had way better atmosphere(SYSTEM SHOCK 2!!!!!). I mean really I know this may sound harsh but is Halo one of the first games you guys on SW ever played? I don't understand how its a god send and is a master piece. I will never understand it no matter what.

JangoWuzHere

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8ylFw3jzOw

[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

Halo never had a good story really people need to stop saying this. It was told in a horrible way and a terrible ending for pretty much all 3 games.

And I cannot believe people would think 1 was better then 2. imo their both bad games but at least I had a little bit of fun with halo 2's campagin compared to 1's were you had those awful encounters with the flood which were annoying and repetitive gameplay

I alos did not see anything "creepy" about Halo 1. I have seen "creepyier" things from games years older then it and had way better atmosphere(SYSTEM SHOCK 2!!!!!). I mean really I know this may sound harsh but is Halo one of the first games you guys on SW ever played? I don't understand how its a god send and is a master piece. I will never understand it no matter what.

GT-JPWhoopass

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8ylFw3jzOw

Yeah watching the video is even painful. I bought an Xbox only for Halo because it was being hyped so much. It was a complete and utter failure for me.

I bought Fatal Frame 1&2 on the Xbox just so I can trick myself into thinking the purchase was not a total waste.

Man there was a level near the end of Halo that was like a maze i was lost for like 2 hours on my first play through lol no jokemicky4889

[QUOTE="micky4889"]Man there was a level near the end of Halo that was like a maze i was lost for like 2 hours on my first play through lol no jokeclaywalker21

Lol, same here. I'm glad I wasn't the only one.

I think the idea of which Halo is best completly depends on what was going on in the industry at the time, and the standards they set.

Halo 1 broke essentially every rule for first person shooters with completly open worlds, a freedom for melee and grenades that hadn't previously existed, and huge leves with almost seamless vehicle integration. The shooter genre as a whole evolved with it, and you can really tell Halo's influences on a lot of games since 2001. It's emphasis on multiplayer was great.

Halo 2 and 3 are great games in their own regard, its just that they are no longer revolutions in the shooter genre. Much more has come since. Halo 2's multiplayer was great, but then it was competing against Battlefied, Half Life 2, and such. Same with Halo 3, it had to compete against another whole bunch of great shooters.

In that sense, I think Halo 1 was best for innovation, but your personal favorite can really vary.

[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

Halo never had a good story really people need to stop saying this. It was told in a horrible way and a terrible ending for pretty much all 3 games.

And I cannot believe people would think 1 was better then 2. imo their both bad games but at least I had a little bit of fun with halo 2's campagin compared to 1's were you had those awful encounters with the flood which were annoying and repetitive gameplay

I alos did not see anything "creepy" about Halo 1. I have seen "creepyier" things from games years older then it and had way better atmosphere(SYSTEM SHOCK 2!!!!!). I mean really I know this may sound harsh but is Halo one of the first games you guys on SW ever played? I don't understand how its a god send and is a master piece. I will never understand it no matter what.

GT-JPWhoopass

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8ylFw3jzOw

You are kidding right? I thought The original Half Life was way better then Halo. And why would watching this video help me like this game more? I PLAYED the game and did not like it one bit. I think their are many MANY games out their that are way better then halo. Halo is just a bad FPS if you ask me. Console gamers think its the king of FPS when they played how many good FPS on their console in the past back then? Golden eye and Perfect Dark thats it. And those games are a joke compared to the FPS that were on PC back then.JangoWuzHere

I think Halo is a great FPS. It may not be as rich or deep as some PC FPS's, but I've had much more fun with all three Halo games.

[QUOTE="GT-JPWhoopass"]

[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

Halo never had a good story really people need to stop saying this. It was told in a horrible way and a terrible ending for pretty much all 3 games.

And I cannot believe people would think 1 was better then 2. imo their both bad games but at least I had a little bit of fun with halo 2's campagin compared to 1's were you had those awful encounters with the flood which were annoying and repetitive gameplay

I alos did not see anything "creepy" about Halo 1. I have seen "creepyier" things from games years older then it and had way better atmosphere(SYSTEM SHOCK 2!!!!!). I mean really I know this may sound harsh but is Halo one of the first games you guys on SW ever played? I don't understand how its a god send and is a master piece. I will never understand it no matter what.

JangoWuzHere

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8ylFw3jzOw

broke all the rules, set all the standards and dominated all shooters on all platforms... it didnt matter that it came out on xbox, it still would have been the best. The fact that it did however, just gave it the chance to do more cool things that had never been done before

For me, Halo 1 was phenomenal.

2 & 3 were tolerable, but very disappointing, imo.

I didn' care about the Arbiter's (and Covenant's) PoV in Halo 2 and the whole package simply felt rushed. I didn't like the respawning either. I felt the single player campaign really went downhill with this.

Halo 3 was ok. But again, the SP campaign didn't do justice to what was so great with Halo 1. The ending tried really hard to be like the ending from Halo 1 (the escaping warthog). And felt cheap, rushed and thrown together in one last minute.

I wouldn't say "utter trash", but they definitely did not live up to their usual review scores in my eyes. Something about them seemed out of place compared to the first, and it wasn't the multiplayer because I never played that anyway. Cherokee_Jack

I got the same feeling. The games were much more closed in and claustrophobic after the first one. It was to do with poor level designs that you just didn't get in the First game. That would be okay and even good in a game like Left 4 Dead but not in Halo.

Halo:CE is a work or art imo, 2 wasn't as good for sp but the online was amazing, and Halo3 well I loved it

I'm a Halo fan what can I say

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]I wouldn't say "utter trash", but they definitely did not live up to their usual review scores in my eyes. Something about them seemed out of place compared to the first, and it wasn't the multiplayer because I never played that anyway. Leejjohno

I got the same feeling. The games were much more closed in and claustrophobic after the first one. It was to do with poor level designs that you just didn't get in the First game. That would be okay and even good in a game like Left 4 Dead but not in Halo.

Alright, I never played CE's single player but I did play the multiplayer on PC. I have, however, played 2 & 3, and 3 is inferior to 2 in every aspect except multiplayer. Heres why:

That awful assault rifle. Why bring it back? It sucks.

They molested the pistol. The pistols were great in Halo 2 and I loved using them. In Halo 3 they are big and slow for no reason. They suck.

Needler downgrade. Why? It was my favorite weapon! :cry:

Voice acting. Truth and Keyes = major downrade.

Overall superior single player campaign. The specifics:

Better level design. Faaaaaar too much backtracking in 3. The Cortana level.....*shudders*. Most of the game was basically "go somewhere, now come back but fight through the flood this time". In Halo 2 there was hardly any backtracking. It felt like you were actually going somewhere instead of running in circles.

Weakened enemies. The Flood are pathetic in 3. With the exception of the ones that can mutate they are disgustingly weak. In Halo 2 you had to hurry up and take them down or they would swarm and kill you. They felt a lot slower in 3 and a simple punch to the head would take them out easy. One-hitter quitters do not make me fear what is supposedly the greatest threat in the galaxy.

Brutes are a joke too. The first time I encountered a berserking brute in 2 it frightened me slightly. It was coming fast and I had to dump a whole clip into him to take him down. I remember berserking brutes killing Hunters too. In 3 when a brute starts berserking I relax because I know I am going to get an easy kill. Just stand back, wait, and melee. Once again: one-hitter quitters = not terrifying.

They took the best character in the entire series, Arbiter, and turned him into a worthless bot. I, unlike a lot of people apparently, really like the Arbiter levels. He had better bosses than chief. I liked sneaking up on people in the camo. And it was a hell of a lot more fun to play with elites for companions with all their jeering and taunts ("Look! Up ahead! The parasite gathers for an attack!" I will never forget that line. :)) Arbiter also has the best voice actor.

The story was better in 2. The covenant, and more specifically the conflict between the brutes and elites, are the best story elements in the whole series. Arbiter is the only chracter who bothers to have a backstory in the games. I dont care about MC, Keyes, Johnson or even the human race. Arbiter and Half-Jaw are the only interesting characters in the entire series to me. Halo 3 lacked their presence, and the story suffered.

Well, thats my rant. ;)

Halo is just utter trash in general. cmdrmonkey

Halo is for online.... Halo 2 was the best...by far Halo 3 sucked...took away all that was good about halo 2...iWorkedForDiddy

Halo 1 had the best campaign, maybe because it was a new title - two and three felt like continuations, like most sequals do.

Halo 2 bought an outstanding online multiplayer to the table

Halo 3 just tied it all up nicely

kinda

I liked them all, it's just that the rest of the industry improved faster than the halo series did. By the time Halo CE came out, the standards for fps were... different. Unlimited weapons, grenades being wielded like weapons, having knives instead of being able to hit enemies with any weapon etc. Halo CE felt very fresh back then. Now, most shooters are like that. Bungie already made most of the game they wanted to make with Halo CE, and thinking of new things to improve it is difficult. I actually liked Halo 2, even though brutes were slightly less fun to fight, and it had a bad ending.

What never changed in the halo series is that the actual fighting gameplay is IMO the best there is.

Not only do halo games have better AI than almost all other games, all the guns also feel totally different, and weapon management is actually very important. It's important to use grenades the right way, and the enemies are interesting to fight. I personally don't see the fun in shooting endless numbers of humanoid enemies with pretty much the same weapon (because how much do an MP5 and an M16 really differ compared to halo's guns), who don't even try to think of a way to kill you. Killing the combine in half life 2 actually feels very much like a chore to me, while fighting a pack of covenant always feels different and exciting.

This is just my take on why halo is great, be free to argue in favour of the gameplay in other shooters.

[QUOTE="cmdrmonkey"]Halo is just utter trash in general. MarloStanfield